{"id":8689,"date":"2011-09-28T02:08:51","date_gmt":"2011-09-28T07:08:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=8689"},"modified":"2011-09-28T02:08:51","modified_gmt":"2011-09-28T07:08:51","slug":"ara-sarafyan-rapor-resmi-tarihi-degisime-zorluyor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2011\/09\/28\/ara-sarafyan-rapor-resmi-tarihi-degisime-zorluyor\/","title":{"rendered":"Ara Sarafyan “Rapor Resmi Tarihi De\u011fi\u015fime Zorluyor”"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 Raporu adl\u0131 kitab\u0131n\u0131n tan\u0131t\u0131m\u0131nda konu\u015fan Ermeni tarih\u00e7i Ara Sarafian raporun \u00f6nemine de\u011finirken, kitab\u0131nda rapordaki bilgileri nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendirdi\u011fini de anlatt\u0131.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0Ermeni tarih\u00e7i\u00a0Ara Sarafian’\u0131n Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 Raporu adl\u0131 kitab\u0131 Gomidas Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc taraf\u0131ndan T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olarak yay\u0131mland\u0131. Sarafian’\u0131n kitab\u0131n\u0131n tan\u0131t\u0131m toplant\u0131s\u0131 d\u00fcn (25 Eyl\u00fcl) ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirildi.<\/p>\n

Tan\u0131t\u0131mda Sarafian \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131n, “1915-17 aras\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131 Dahiliye Naz\u0131r\u0131 Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n \u00f6zel evraklar\u0131 aras\u0131nda bulunan Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 \u00fczerine resmi bir Osmanl\u0131 raporu” \u00fczerine odakland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlatt\u0131. Bu \u00f6nemli belgenin Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan t\u0131pk\u0131 bas\u0131m olarak 2008’de yay\u0131nland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, kendisinin de Osmanl\u0131 kay\u0131tlar\u0131ndan yararlanarak bu raporu analiz etti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/p>\n

Sarafian, Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporunun, “t\u0131pk\u0131 onu destekleyen Osmanl\u0131 Ar\u015fivleri’ndeki di\u011fer belgeler gibi, 1915 Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 konusunda resmi T\u00fcrk pozisyonunu de\u011fi\u015fmeye zorlad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131” iddia etti\u011fi konu\u015fmas\u0131nda, Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n evrak\u0131 \u00fczerine arg\u00fcmanlar\u0131n\u0131 ana hatlar\u0131yla \u015f\u00f6yle s\u0131ralad\u0131:<\/p>\n

* Rapor Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n \u00f6zel evrak\u0131 aras\u0131nda bulunmu\u015ftur. Evrak ile Talat Pa\u015fa aras\u0131ndaki ba\u011flant\u0131 somuttur.<\/p>\n

* \u015eubat 1917’de Talat Pa\u015fa 23 vilayette bulunan Ermenilerle ilgili \u00f6zel bir n\u00fcfus \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 i\u00e7in talimat vermi\u015f. Talimatlar\u0131nda haz\u0131rlayaca\u011f\u0131 raporda yer alacak i\u015flenmemi\u015f ham verileri elde etmesine olanak tan\u0131yan baz\u0131 spesifik bilgiler talep etmi\u015f. \u00a0\u00a0Bunlar s\u00f6z konusu vilayette bulunan “yerli” ve “yabanc\u0131” Ermenilerin say\u0131s\u0131 ve bunlar\u0131n nereden geldiklerine ili\u015fkin verilerdi. Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporu bu ara\u015ft\u0131rmadan elde edilen ham verilere dayan\u0131yor. Talat’\u0131n bilgi talebine verilen \u00e7ok say\u0131da yan\u0131t\u0131 \u0130stanbul’daki Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Osmanl\u0131 Ar\u015fivleri’nde bulmak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Yan\u0131tlardaki rakamlarla Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n rakamlar\u0131 birbirini tutuyor. Yan\u0131tlar\u0131n baz\u0131lar\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye’deki ar\u015fivlerde yoksa da Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporunun do\u011frulu\u011funu tehcire ait di\u011fer verilerle s\u0131nayabiliyor ve do\u011frulayabiliyoruz.<\/p>\n

* Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporunun analitik a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131k merkezini bir sayfal\u0131k istatistiksel b\u00f6l\u00fcm olu\u015fturuyor. Bu sayfa sadece \u015eubat 1917’den sonra toplanm\u0131\u015f ham verilerin bir \u00f6zetini olu\u015fturmakla kalm\u0131yor, birtak\u0131m ilave bilgiler de i\u00e7eriyor. Bu bilgiler ham verilerden yola \u00e7\u0131k\u0131larak hesaplanm\u0131\u015f ve raporun istatistiksel giri\u015finde yer almak \u00fczere \u00f6zetlenmi\u015f olsa gerek. Talat yaln\u0131zca toplam rakamlar\u0131 vermi\u015f. Bunlar\u0131n ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 hesaplanmas\u0131 benim \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmamda yer al\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

* \u00a01917 ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131 23 vilayette y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcld\u00fc. Ancak belli ba\u015fl\u0131 do\u011fu illeri kapsam d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda tutuldu. Bu yaln\u0131zca Trabzon, Erzurum, Van’\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n Rus i\u015fgalinde olmas\u0131ndan kaynaklanm\u0131yordu, i\u015fgal at\u0131nda olmayan Mamuret-ul Aziz ve Diyarbak\u0131r da kapsam d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda tutulmu\u015ftu. Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n bu vilayetlere y\u00f6nelik n\u00fcfus ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131 istememesinin nedeni, b\u00fcy\u00fck olas\u0131l\u0131kla, bu vilayetlerdeki Ermenilerin 1915-16’da tehcir edildi\u011fini varsaym\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

*Raporda tehcir \u00f6ncesi Osmanl\u0131 Ermeni n\u00fcfusunun, say\u0131mlardaki eksiklikler de hesaba kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda yakla\u015f\u0131k 1,5 milyon oldu\u011fu, 1915’de tehcir edilenlerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n 1 milyon 200 bin oldu\u011fu, tehcirin hayatta kalan ve varl\u0131\u011f\u0131 kayda ge\u00e7en Ermeni say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n ise 350-400 bin kadar oldu\u011fu belirtiliyor.<\/p>\n

Ara Sarafian, kitab\u0131nda da Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n evrak\u0131 aras\u0131nda b\u00f6yle bir defterin bulunmas\u0131n\u0131 “Osmanl\u0131 h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin i\u00e7 d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131 ve onun Ermeni kar\u015f\u0131t\u0131 politikalar\u0131n\u0131 idrak etmemizi sa\u011flar” diye yorumluyor. Sterilize dile de dikkat \u00e7ekerek “bilhassa kayda de\u011ferdir ve daha g\u00fcven veren, inkarc\u0131 bir s\u00f6ylemin do\u011fu\u015funu a\u00e7\u0131klar” ifadelerine yer veriyor.<\/p>\n

K\u00fcrtler Ermenilere de Osmanl\u0131’ya da destek Verdi<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0Tan\u0131t\u0131m toplant\u0131s\u0131na Bir Zamanlar Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k’tan\u00a0Osman K\u00f6ker<\/strong>\u00a0ve Bo\u011fazi\u00e7i \u00dcniversitesi Tarih B\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc’nden\u00a0Mehmet Polatel<\/strong>\u00a0de konu\u015fmac\u0131 olarak kat\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n

K\u00f6ker ana hatlar\u0131yla de\u011ferlendirdi\u011fi kitap i\u00e7in Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporundaki verilerin Osmanl\u0131 ar\u015fivleriyle uyum i\u00e7inde oldu\u011funu g\u00f6sterdi\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131’n\u0131n kitab\u0131n\u0131n Sarafian taraf\u0131ndan \u00e7al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu iddias\u0131yla ilgili olarak da bu kitab\u0131n\u0131n yeni bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma oldu\u011funu ve bir telif sorunu olamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirtti. Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131’n\u0131n Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporundaki verilerin 1915-16’ya ait oldu\u011fu iddias\u0131na da K\u00f6ker itiraz etti. K\u00f6ker 1918’in daha akla yatk\u0131n oldu\u011funu savundu. Sarafian 1917’yi i\u015faret etmi\u015fti.<\/p>\n

Polatel ise Osmanl\u0131 Ar\u015fivleri’nin kapal\u0131 oldu\u011fu d\u00f6nemde, sadece devletin uygun g\u00f6r\u00fcp yay\u0131nlad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 okuyabildiklerini, soyk\u0131r\u0131m tezlerinin “Osmanl\u0131 ar\u015fivlerine dayanm\u0131yor” iddias\u0131yla ele\u015ftirildi\u011fini ve itibars\u0131zla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rlatt\u0131; bug\u00fcn “verileri \u00e7al\u0131yorlar” su\u00e7lamas\u0131yla ba\u015fka bir itibars\u0131zla\u015ft\u0131rma \u00e7abas\u0131 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi.<\/p>\n

Soru cevap b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde ise \u00f6ne \u00e7\u0131kan konulara dair Sarafian, \u015fu noktalara de\u011findi:<\/p>\n

* Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n elindeki say\u0131lar olu\u015fturulurken “say\u0131m” nas\u0131l yap\u0131ld\u0131 bilmiyorum. Ancak bu konuda \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar, ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar yap\u0131l\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

* Tehcire Almanlar\u0131n etkisi tart\u0131\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor. Belki kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131klar\u0131 i\u00e7in su\u00e7lanabilir. Ancak mesela, Halep’te Alman bir subay\u0131n soyk\u0131r\u0131ma kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyoruz.<\/p>\n

* K\u00fcrt a\u015firetleri i\u00e7inde Osmanl\u0131’ya destek verip b\u00f6ylece zengin olanlar da var, Ermenileri koruyup saklayanlar da…<\/p>\n

* \u0130\u015fbirlik\u00e7i Ermenilerden s\u00f6z edilirken dikkatli olunmal\u0131; bu bir t\u00fcr cad\u0131 av\u0131na d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015febilir. \u0130stihbarat konusunda rol\u00fc olan Ermenilerden s\u00f6z edilebilir.<\/p>\n

* Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n raporunda M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermenilere dair bir bilgi yok.<\/p>\n

* O d\u00f6nem \u0130stanbul’da zorla yerinden etme durumu yok. Ancak \u0130stanbul’da baz\u0131 \u00f6nemli Ermeniler \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc.<\/p>\n

Y\u00fcce Y\u00d6NEY<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

yuce@bianet.org<\/strong><\/a><\/em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130stanbul – B\u0130A Haber Merkezi<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

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