{"id":7023,"date":"2011-07-20T01:48:09","date_gmt":"2011-07-20T06:48:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=7023"},"modified":"2011-07-20T01:48:09","modified_gmt":"2011-07-20T06:48:09","slug":"komitas-enstitusu-muduru-tarihci-ara-sarafyanin-mediamax-haber-ajansina-verdigi-mulakat","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2011\/07\/20\/komitas-enstitusu-muduru-tarihci-ara-sarafyanin-mediamax-haber-ajansina-verdigi-mulakat\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cKomitas\u201d enstit\u00fcs\u00fc m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc, tarih\u00e7i Ara Sarafyan\u2019\u0131n \u201cMediamax\u201d haber ajans\u0131na verdi\u011fi m\u00fclakat"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\"<\/a>Ara Sarafyan\u2019\u0131n \u201cErmeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 hakk\u0131nda Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporu, 1917\u201d \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131, \u201cKomitas\u201d enstit\u00fcs\u00fc taraf\u0131ndan bu y\u0131l\u0131n Nisan ay\u0131nda yay\u0131nland\u0131.<\/em><\/p>\n

Bu kitap, Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n \u015fahsi belgeleri aras\u0131nda bulunup, tan\u0131nm\u0131\u015f gazeteci ve tarih\u00e7i Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan yay\u0131nlanm\u0131\u015f raporla ilgili yeni bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmad\u0131r. Ara Sarafyan\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6zlerine istinaden, Bardak\u00e7\u0131\u2019n\u0131n, Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporuyla ilgili analizi s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 olup belgelerin ger\u00e7ek i\u00e7eri\u011fini yans\u0131tmamaktad\u0131r. Ara Sarafyan, 1917 raporunun ger\u00e7ekte Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131n \u00f6zel bir de\u011ferlendirmesi oldu\u011funu iddia etmektedir.<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cMediamax\u201d\u0131n Ara Sarafyan\u2019la g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesi.<\/strong><\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cErmeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 hakk\u0131nda Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporu\u201d belgeleriyle ilgili ne s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu rapor 1982 y\u0131l\u0131nda, T\u00fcrk gazeteci ve tarih\u00e7i Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n \u00f6zel ar\u015fivinde bulunmu\u015ftur. Bardak\u00e7\u0131, bu belgeleri 2005 y\u0131l\u0131nda k\u0131smen, 2008\u2019te ise tamamen (orijinalin kopyas\u0131yla birlikte) yay\u0131nlad\u0131. Bardak\u00e7\u0131, kitaba ekledi\u011fi yorumlar\u0131nda Ermenilerle ilgili k\u0131sm\u0131 g\u00f6lgelemi\u015f ve hatta \u00e7arp\u0131tm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, ben orijinali tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmaz bir belge olarak kabul ediyorum.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Rapor ne \u015fekilde de\u011fi\u015ftirilmi\u015f veya \u00e7arp\u0131t\u0131lm\u0131\u015f?<\/p>\n

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–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda \u201c24 Nisan 1915\u2019te ne olmu\u015ftur?\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir \u00f6ns\u00f6z ekleyip, Osmanl\u0131 Ermenilerinin 1915 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u201ctehcire\u201d tabi tutulmu\u015f olduklar\u0131na dair resmi tezi tekrarlamaktad\u0131r. Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 hakk\u0131ndaki t\u00fcm yakla\u015f\u0131mlar\u0131 reddedip Talat\u2019\u0131n 1917 y\u0131l\u0131 raporunu kesinlikle uygun olmayan bir \u015fekilde adland\u0131rmaktad\u0131r. Her hal\u00fck\u00e2rda, kendisi taraf\u0131ndan verilen t\u00fcm verilerin farkl\u0131 yorumlara a\u00e7\u0131k oldu\u011funu da belirtmektedir. Raporun 2005 y\u0131l\u0131nda yay\u0131nlanmas\u0131ndan sonra as\u0131l tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131, bu raporun \u00f6nemini elden geldi\u011fi kadar yumu\u015fatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan T\u00fcrk tarih\u00e7iler \u201cy\u00fcr\u00fctmekteydi\u201d. Raporun ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve tarihi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131, bu y\u00fczden de herhangi biri taraf\u0131ndan yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olabilece\u011fini belirtiyor, fakat bu belgelerin Talat\u2019\u0131n \u015fahsi evrak\u0131 aras\u0131nda bulunmu\u015f oldu\u011fu olgusunu yorumlam\u0131yor, daha geni\u015f bir yelpazede ele alm\u0131yor ve kendilerinin ortaya att\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorular\u0131n cevaplar\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6nermiyorlard\u0131. Bildi\u011fim kadar\u0131yla, sadece T\u00fcrk tarih\u00e7i Fuat D\u00fcndar bir kere olmak \u00fczere az-\u00e7ok rapora de\u011finmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Talat\u2019\u0131n raporunun, T\u00fcrk resmi tarih\u00e7ileri taraf\u0131ndan gizlenmi\u015f oldu\u011funu mu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Evet! Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n, Osmanl\u0131 Ermenilerinin tehciri s\u00fcrecine ne kadar derin kat\u0131l\u0131m\u0131 oldu\u011fu ve bu s\u00fcre\u00e7te ne t\u00fcr belgeler toplam\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu olgusuna de\u011finmeden kendi meselelerini ortaya koyuyorlard\u0131. \u00d6rne\u011fin, Ermeniler hakk\u0131nda \u00f6zel bilgi g\u00f6nderilmesi talebiyle Talat taraf\u0131ndan 1917 \u015eubat\u0131nda, baz\u0131 vilayetlere yaz\u0131 yollanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Talat\u2019\u0131n raporundaki veriler, yukar\u0131da belirtmi\u015f oldu\u011fum yaz\u0131larda talep edilen verilerle ayn\u0131 karakterdedir. Ara\u015ft\u0131rmada, farkl\u0131 vilayetlerdeki \u201cyerli\u201d ve \u201cd\u0131\u015f\u201d Ermeniler ve bu \u201cd\u0131\u015f\u201d Ermenilerin k\u00f6kenleri hakk\u0131nda veriler bulunmaktad\u0131r. T\u00fcrk resmi tarih\u00e7iler, raporun cevaplar\u0131n\u0131n T\u00fcrk ar\u015fivlerinde bulundu\u011funu ve 1917 \u015eubat\u0131nda g\u00f6nderilen yaz\u0131n\u0131n, Talat\u2019\u0131n raporu i\u00e7in bir mihenk ta\u015f\u0131 oldu\u011funu tabii ki bilmektedir. Baz\u0131 bilgiler, Talat\u2019\u0131n raporundaki verilerle uyu\u015fmaktad\u0131r, fakat bir k\u0131sm\u0131 d\u00fczeltilmi\u015f olup biraz farkl\u0131d\u0131r. Bu ar\u015fiv izi \u201cErmeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 hakk\u0131nda Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporu\u201d \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131ndaki yaz\u0131m\u0131n temelini olu\u015fturmaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1917 verileri Ermeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131yla ne \u015fekilde ilintilidir?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Talat\u2019\u0131n raporunun \u00f6ns\u00f6z\u00fcnde toplu bir analiz yer bulmaktad\u0131r. Bu analizde verilerle ilgili tamamlay\u0131c\u0131 k\u0131s\u0131mlar var. Listelerden birinde, Osmanl\u0131 istatistiklerine g\u00f6re Ermenilerin 1914\u2019te farkl\u0131 vilayetlerdeki da\u011f\u0131l\u0131m\u0131 g\u00f6sterilmektedir. Bir ba\u015fka listede ise 1917 y\u0131l\u0131 verileri g\u00f6sterilmektedir. Bu listede, di\u011fer vilayetlerde kay\u0131tl\u0131 olan Ermenilerin o tarihte bulunduklar\u0131 vilayetteki say\u0131s\u0131 belirtilmektedir. Bu son liste b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ihtimalle \u00f6zel talimat \u00fczerine haz\u0131rlan\u0131p toplu analize d\u00e2hil edilmi\u015ftir (farkl\u0131 vilayetlerde bulunan Ermenilerin toplam say\u0131s\u0131 hakk\u0131nda bir listenin bulunmamas\u0131 enteresand\u0131r). Toplu analizde yer alan veriler sayesinde Talat, \u00f6rne\u011fin, 1914 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130zmit\u2019te ya\u015fayan Ermenilerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenip, 1917 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130zmitli Ermenilerden ne kadar\u0131n\u0131n yurtlar\u0131nda kald\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve ne kadar\u0131n\u0131n Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nun farkl\u0131 bir b\u00f6lgesinde bulundu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frenebilirdi. Bu say\u0131lar sayesinde Talat, ne kadar \u0130zmitli Ermeni\u2019nin tehcire u\u011frad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve ka\u00e7\u0131n\u0131n 1917\u2019de h\u00e2la hayatta oldu\u011funu (veya olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131) takip edebilirdi. Bu sebeplerden dolay\u0131, ilk defa olarak Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan yay\u0131nlanan Talat\u2019\u0131n belgeleri hakk\u0131ndaki analizimi \u201cErmeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 hakk\u0131nda Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporu, 1917\u201d adland\u0131rd\u0131m. Bu raporu \u201cErmenilerin tehcirden sonraki genel say\u0131s\u0131\u201d olarak adland\u0131ran Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131\u2019yla kesinlikle ayn\u0131 fikirde olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 burada \u00f6zellikle belirtmek isterim. \u015eayet bu rapor bir \u201ctehcir\u201d yans\u0131tm\u0131\u015f olsayd\u0131, tehcir edilmi\u015f olanlar\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015fka bir yerde, \u00f6zellikle de g\u00f6nderilmi\u015f oldu\u011fu yerde yerle\u015fmi\u015f oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliriz. Ger\u00e7ekte ise, Osmanl\u0131 Ermenilerinin b\u00fcy\u00fck bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n (kaba bir hesapla %80\u2019i) 1914\u20131917 y\u0131llar\u0131 aras\u0131nda fiilen yok oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rmekteyiz. B\u00fcy\u00fck bir k\u0131sm\u0131 tahminen \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f ve \u00e7ok say\u0131da kad\u0131n ve \u00e7ocuk ise M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ailelere verilmi\u015ftir. \u201cYerli\u201d ve \u201cd\u0131\u015f\u201d Ermenilere gelirsek, belki de onlar\u0131 Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131n \u201crehin kurbanlar\u0131\u201d olarak adland\u0131rmak daha do\u011fru olur. Bu insanlar, Osmanl\u0131 devletinin hayatlar\u0131yla oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman-T\u00fcrk olarak asimile olmaya zorlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201coyuncaklar\u0131\u201d oldu. Baz\u0131 durumlarda, \u00f6rne\u011fin Kayseri Vilayeti\u2019nde, asimile olmalar\u0131 i\u00e7in M\u00fcsl\u00fcman k\u00f6ylerine da\u011f\u0131t\u0131lm\u0131\u015flard\u0131.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu durumda, Talat\u2019\u0131n raporuna g\u00f6re ka\u00e7 Ermeni \u201cyok olmu\u015f\u201d?<\/p>\n

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–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Rapora g\u00f6re, 1914 y\u0131l\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nda resmi verilere istinaden 1 milyon 112 bin 614 Ermeni kaydedilmi\u015fti. O tarihlerde resmi say\u0131mlar yap\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hesaba katt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, bu say\u0131 revizyona ihtiya\u00e7 duymaktad\u0131r. Talat\u2019\u0131n k\u0131sa analizinin dikkate de\u011fer bir a\u00e7\u0131klama k\u0131sm\u0131 var. Buna g\u00f6re, raporda belirtilen Ermenilerin 1914 y\u0131l\u0131 resmi say\u0131s\u0131nda Katolik Ermeniler yer almamaktayd\u0131 ve kendisi Apostolik ve Katolik Ermenilerin (Protestan Ermeniler de kat\u0131lmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131) say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 1 milyon 256 bin 403 olarak d\u00fczeltilmi\u015ftir. A\u00e7\u0131klamada, Ermenilerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 devaml\u0131 olarak az g\u00f6sterme e\u011filiminin var oldu\u011funu hesaba katarak, bu say\u0131n\u0131n 1,5 milyon olarak kabul edilmesi gerekti\u011fini de belirtmektedir. Ayn\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamada, vilayetlerdeki \u201cyerli\u201d ve \u201cd\u0131\u015f\u201d Ermenilerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 da 284 157\u2019den 350\u2013400 bine kadar y\u00fckseltmek gerekti\u011finden bahsetmektedir. B\u00f6ylece, bu verilere istinaden, 1914\u20131917 y\u0131llar\u0131 aras\u0131nda kalan s\u00fcre\u00e7te yakla\u015f\u0131k 1 milyon 100 bin Ermeni yok olmu\u015ftur. Bu veriler tabii ki analiz edilmelidir. Birincisi, 1914 y\u0131l\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nda ka\u00e7 Ermeni\u2019nin ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu kesin de\u011fildir. Bunun haricinde, yakla\u015f\u0131k 40 bin Protestan Ermeni sorunu var. Bu insanlar Talat\u2019\u0131n raporunda belirtilmemektedir (onlar\u0131n da genelde tehcir edilip \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f olmalar\u0131na ra\u011fmen). Talat\u2019\u0131n raporunda baz\u0131 b\u00f6lgeler bulunmamaktad\u0131r. \u00d6ncelikle, Canik (Samsun) ve Edirne b\u00f6lgeleri, ki buralarda da tehcir ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmi\u015ftir. Bunun haricinde, ka\u00e7 Ermeni\u2019nin do\u011fuya ka\u00e7abildi\u011fi ve daha sonra bu insanlara ne oldu\u011fu konusu kesin de\u011fildir. \u015eayet bu insanlar da so\u011fuk ve a\u00e7l\u0131ktan \u00f6ld\u00fclerse, onlar\u0131 da Soyk\u0131r\u0131m kurbanlar\u0131 olarak kabul etmek gerekmez mi?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporunu ara\u015ft\u0131rarak neye varmak istiyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Talat\u2019\u0131n raporunun \u00f6nemini tarihi bir belge a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan de\u011ferlendirmek istiyorum. Bunu ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdikten sonra, rapordaki verileri Osmanl\u0131 belgelerine istinaden Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131na y\u00f6nelik resmi duru\u015f olarak takdim etmeye karar verdim. Ayr\u0131ca, imk\u00e2nlar d\u00e2hilinde, Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nda ya\u015fayan farkl\u0131 Ermeni topluluklar\u0131n\u0131n bu d\u00f6nemde nas\u0131l hayatta kalabildiklerini g\u00f6stermek istedim. Say\u0131lar\u0131 incelemek istemiyorum, zaman i\u00e7inde bu yap\u0131labilir.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00c7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131z\u0131n \u0130ngilizce olarak yay\u0131nlanmas\u0131ndan sonra yakla\u015f\u0131k \u00fc\u00e7 ay ge\u00e7ti, \u00f6zellikle T\u00fcrk resmi tarih\u00e7ilerinden ne t\u00fcr tepkiler ald\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmam, ba\u015fka yerlerde oldu\u011fu gibi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de de okurlar taraf\u0131ndan s\u0131cak kar\u015f\u0131land\u0131. Yine de, hen\u00fcz bilimsel bir tepki alm\u0131\u015f de\u011fil. Talat\u2019\u0131n raporu Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan ilk defa yay\u0131nland\u0131\u011f\u0131nda T\u00fcrk resmi tarih\u00e7ileri aras\u0131nda benzer bir rahats\u0131zl\u0131k duyulmaktayd\u0131. Hatta The New York Times gazetesi bu \u201csessizli\u011fi\u201d 8 Mart 2009 say\u0131s\u0131nda \u201cAmnezi \u00f6rt\u00fcs\u00fcyle \u00f6rt\u00fcl\u00fc yakla\u015f\u0131k bir milyon soyk\u0131r\u0131m kurban\u0131\u201d (Nearly a Million Genocide Victims, Covered in a Cloak of Amnesia) makalesiyle yorumlamaktayd\u0131.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrk tarih\u00e7iler taraf\u0131ndan size y\u00f6nelik haks\u0131z yakla\u015f\u0131mlardan korkmuyor musunuz?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Hay\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131yla ilgili resmi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fc tenkit eden herkes benzer tepkilere haz\u0131r olmal\u0131d\u0131r. Bu durum, s\u00fcrecin bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcd\u00fcr. \u201cKomitas\u201d enstit\u00fcs\u00fc yak\u0131nda bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmay\u0131 T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olarak yay\u0131nlayacakt\u0131r ve sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir tart\u0131\u015fmaya konu olaca\u011f\u0131 konusunda \u00fcmidimi kaybetmi\u015f de\u011filim.<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki okuyucu kitleniz kimlerdir?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131yla ilgilenen insanlar ve bu sorunu resmi T\u00fcrk tezi s\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131 d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda tart\u0131\u015fmaya haz\u0131r olan ki\u015filer<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Belli \u00e7evrelerden size kar\u015f\u0131 dile getirilen radikal g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fleri hesaba katt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131z\u0131n T\u00fcrk\u00e7e versiyonunun adil g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme malzemesi olaca\u011f\u0131ndan emin misiniz?<\/p>\n

–\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcm d\u00fcnyada radikal g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flere sahip insanlar var, fakat benim okuyucu kitlem farkl\u0131d\u0131r. Bunun haricinde, Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporuyla ilgili bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam karma\u015f\u0131k bilimsel malzeme de\u011fil, baya\u011f\u0131 kolay sindirilebilir ve nettir. B\u00fcy\u00fck bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc Talat\u2019\u0131n orijinal raporunda yer bulan istatistiklerdir. Raporun orijinali Bardak\u00e7\u0131\u2019n\u0131n kitab\u0131nda t\u0131pk\u0131bas\u0131m olarak (Osmanl\u0131ca orijinalin T\u00fcrk\u00e7e harflere \u00e7evrilmi\u015f hali) bulunabilir. \u00d6yle ki, ger\u00e7ekli\u011finden \u015f\u00fcphe duymaya mahal yok. Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131yla ilgili bu verileri daha basit terimlerle ortaya koymakta ve iki harita eklemekteyim. \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmadaki analizim bu bilgilerin nereden elde edildi\u011fi ve Talat\u2019\u0131n bunlar\u0131 Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131yla ilgili de\u011ferlendirmelerinde nas\u0131l kullanm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu hakk\u0131nda veriler bar\u0131nd\u0131rmaktad\u0131r. Ara\u015ft\u0131rmam, Osmanl\u0131 ar\u015fiv belgelerine dayand\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de kolayl\u0131kla denetleme imk\u00e2n\u0131 var.<\/p>\n

\u201cErmeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 hakk\u0131nda Talat pa\u015fan\u0131n raporu, 1917\u201d \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 ve iki haritay\u0131 a\u015fa\u011f\u0131daki adreslerden indirmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcr.<\/em><\/p>\n

http:\/\/gomidas.org\/NOTES_AND_STUDIES\/Talaat%20Pasha%20Report%201917.pdf <\/a><\/p>\n

http:\/\/gomidas.org\/NOTES_AND_STUDIES\/Talaat%20Pasha%20Map%201.pdf <\/a><\/p>\n

http:\/\/gomidas.org\/NOTES_AND_STUDIES\/Talaat%20Pasha%20Map%202.pdf <\/a><\/p>\n

T\u00fcrk\u00e7esi: Akunq veb sitesi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan\u0131 Diran Lokmag\u00f6zyan<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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