{"id":6404,"date":"2011-06-22T04:38:53","date_gmt":"2011-06-22T09:38:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=6404"},"modified":"2011-06-22T04:38:53","modified_gmt":"2011-06-22T09:38:53","slug":"gayrimuslimlerin-ihtiyaci-olan-sey-hosgoru-degil-saygidir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2011\/06\/22\/gayrimuslimlerin-ihtiyaci-olan-sey-hosgoru-degil-saygidir\/","title":{"rendered":"Gayrim\u00fcslimlerin ihtiyac\u0131 olan \u015fey ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fc de\u011fil sayg\u0131d\u0131r"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u00a0Emre Ertani<\/a><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>\u0130stanbul Protestan Kilisesi ruhani \u00f6nderi Carlos Madrigal ile hayat hik\u00e2yesini, \u0130spanya ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi konu\u015ftuk<\/em><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Cumhuriyet d\u00f6neminde in\u015fa edilen, ilk ve tek kilise olan Alt\u0131ntepe Kilisesi\u2019nin kurucusu, \u0130stanbul Protestan Kilisesi Vakf\u0131 Ruhani \u00d6nderi Carlos Madrigal ile T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye yerle\u015fmeye nas\u0131l karar verdi\u011fini, hayat\u0131n\u0131, \u0130spanya\u2019y\u0131 ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi konu\u015ftuk. G\u00fczel Sanatlar ve Teoloji \u00f6\u011frenimi g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f olan Madrigal\u2019in H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 irdeledi\u011fi 14 kitab\u0131 bulunuyor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki ya\u015fama adapte olmakta zorluk ya\u015famayan Madrigal, Anadolu\u2019daki H\u0131ristiyanlar\u0131n g\u00fc\u00e7 ko\u015fullar alt\u0131nda ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131yor. 1960 y\u0131l\u0131nda Barselona\u2019da do\u011fan Madrigal, evli ve \u00fc\u00e7 \u00e7ocuk babas\u0131; ayn\u0131 zamanda s\u0131k\u0131 bir Barselona futbol tak\u0131m\u0131 taraftar\u0131.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye yerle\u015fmeye nas\u0131l karar verdiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

1985 y\u0131l\u0131nda e\u015fim ve 10 ayl\u0131k olan o\u011flumla T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye yerle\u015ftik, 26 y\u0131ld\u0131r buraday\u0131z. \u00dc\u00e7 \u00e7ocu\u011fum var, ikisi burada do\u011fdu. Ortanca o\u011flum bu y\u0131l Marmara \u00dcniversitesi T\u0131p Fak\u00fcltesi\u2019nden mezun oluyor. \u0130spanya\u2019da \u0130slam k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn geni\u015f bir tarihi var. \u0130slam, k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc etkilemi\u015f. Liseden beri \u0130slam sanat\u0131na ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne bir ilgim vard\u0131. \u0130spanya\u2019da G\u00fczel Sanatlar okudum. Katolik bir aile ve \u00e7evrede b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fcm. Fakat 20 ya\u015f\u0131ndayken kasabam\u0131zdaki Protestan kilisesine gidip gelmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m. E\u015fimle de orada tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. \u00c7ok ilgin\u00e7ti; herkesin elinde Kutsal Kitap vard\u0131. Ben o ya\u015f\u0131ma kadar \u0130ncil okumam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Ben de \u0130ncil okumak istedim. Bir \u015feye inanacaksan veya inanmayacaksan, onu bilmen gerek. Ona g\u00f6re kabul edersin veya reddedersin. \u0130ncil okumaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. Sanata olan ilgime ruhani bir ilgi de eklenmi\u015f oldu. Sonra \u0130slam \u00fclkelerindeki H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n durumunu merak etmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m. Fas ve Cezayir gibi Kuzey Afrika \u00fclkelerini inceledim1983 y\u0131l\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye tatile geldim, bu defa T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin durumu \u00e7ok ilgimi \u00e7ekti. Eskiden \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir H\u0131ristiyan ge\u00e7mi\u015fi olan bir \u00fclkede neredeyse H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n izi kalmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de yaz\u0131l\u0131 ve g\u00f6rsel medyada H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 karalayan haberler ve yorumlar oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frendim. \u0130lgim b\u00f6yle do\u011fdu. \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k neden bu kadar zay\u0131f? Ben bir hizmette bulunabilir miyim?\u201d diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm. Tatil bitince \u0130spanya\u2019ya d\u00f6nd\u00fcm. Sonra da buraya yerle\u015fmeye karar verdim. \u00d6nce dil \u00f6\u011frendim, reklam sekt\u00f6r\u00fcnde \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m birka\u00e7 y\u0131l. Zamanla buradaki Protestanlarla tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, reklamc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u0131rak\u0131p ruhani hizmette bulunmaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. 1995\u2019te bug\u00fcnk\u00fc ad\u0131yla Alt\u0131ntepe Protestan Kilisesi\u2019ni kurduk.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Bir korku, endi\u015fe duymad\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hayat\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 gereksiz risklere atmad\u0131k.\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye hakk\u0131nda da pek fazla bir bilgimiz yoktu, fakat biz her zaman att\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ad\u0131mlarda Allah\u2019a g\u00fcvendik. \u00c7ekindi\u011fimiz, tedirgin oldu\u011fumuz d\u00f6nemler oldu. 1987 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130ncil da\u011f\u0131t\u0131rken, H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k propagandas\u0131 yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m gerek\u00e7esiyle tutukland\u0131m. \u201cH\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k propagandas\u0131 yasakt\u0131r\u201d denildi. Sekiz g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131ktan sonra Devlet G\u00fcvenlik Mahkemesi\u2019ne \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131m ve serbest b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131m. T\u00fcrkiye vatanda\u015f\u0131 olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m, oturma iznim soru\u015fturuldu. Ankara\u2019dan hakk\u0131mda herhangi bir yasad\u0131\u015f\u0131 durum olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyen bir karar \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Vakf\u0131 ve kiliseyi kurarken de olumsuz bir durum olmad\u0131. Alt\u0131ntepe Protestan Kilisesi, Cumhuriyet tarihinde in\u015fa edilen ilk kilise. Ba\u015fvurulduktan sonra imar plan\u0131nda kilise olarak ge\u00e7en ilk ve tek yer. Bat\u0131\u2019da inan\u00e7 konusunda serbestlik oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in devletin kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p \u201c\u015euna inan\u0131yorum, buna inan\u0131yorum\u201d demene gerek yok. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de anlad\u0131m ki devletin \u00f6n\u00fcne gidip kendini anlatman gerekiyor. Yasalar baz\u0131 haklar tan\u0131yor, fakat uygulama hemen hemen yok. Bundan dolay\u0131 kendimizi anlatt\u0131k ve yasal yollara ba\u015fvurduk, kap\u0131lar\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fck.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Aileniz T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye yerle\u015fme karar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 nas\u0131l kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130lk duyunca, uzak bir \u00fclkeye gitmemiz, ailemizi endi\u015felendirdi. T\u00fcrkiye hakk\u0131nda fazla bilgi sahibi de\u011filler zaten. \u0130spanya\u2019da T\u00fcrkiye hakk\u0131nda turist olarak buraya gelmi\u015f olanlar d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda pek bir bilgi yok. Yine de, daha kapal\u0131 bir hayat\u0131n h\u00e2kim oldu\u011fu \u0130slam \u00fclkelerine gidecek olsak endi\u015fe duyarlard\u0131, fakat T\u00fcrkiye i\u00e7in b\u00f6yle bir durum s\u00f6z konusu olmad\u0131. Aileden uza\u011fa gitmemiz, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n ba\u015fka bir \u00fclkede b\u00fcy\u00fcyecek olmas\u0131 kayg\u0131land\u0131rd\u0131 sadece onlar\u0131.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye ilk geldi\u011fimde \u0130spanya\u2019n\u0131n birka\u00e7 on y\u0131l \u00f6nceki halini an\u0131msatt\u0131 bana. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc tek televizyon kanal\u0131 vard\u0131, ikinci kanal hen\u00fcz a\u00e7\u0131lmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u0130spanya\u2019da \u00e7ocuklu\u011fumda tek kanal vard\u0131. T\u00fcrkiye ekonomik olarak kapal\u0131 ve geri kalm\u0131\u015f bir \u00fclkeydi. Geldi\u011fimiz y\u0131llarda \u00d6zal iktidar\u0131 vard\u0131; o zaman T\u00fcrkiye d\u00fcnyaya a\u00e7\u0131lmaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Bir\u00e7ok yenilik oldu. \u015eunu diyebilirim ki geldi\u011fimde siyah-beyaz bir T\u00fcrkiye vard\u0131, \u015fu an ise olduk\u00e7a renkli bir \u00fclke.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Tehdit al\u0131yor musunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Rahip Santoro cinayetinin ard\u0131ndan, Hrant Dink cinayeti ve Zirve Yay\u0131nevi katliam\u0131 oldu. O d\u00f6nem \u00e7ok tehdit geldi, alt\u0131 ay boyunca devam etti. Kamera takt\u0131rd\u0131k,\u00a0 \u00f6nlemler ald\u0131k. Kilisenin kap\u0131s\u0131na gelip slogan atanlar oldu. \u015eu an o t\u00fcr bir s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 s\u00f6z konusu de\u011fil, fakat \u0130stanbul d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda durum s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131. Anodolu\u2019da \u00e7ok tehdit olaylar\u0131 oluyor. Boya ile k\u00fcf\u00fcr ve hakaret yaz\u0131l\u0131yor duvarlara, kundaklama vs. oluyor. Ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fcden s\u00f6z ediliyor fakat durum \u00f6yle de\u011fil. Ayr\u0131ca ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fc do\u011fru bir s\u00f6z de\u011fil. \u201cSenin bir eksi\u011fin var, yanl\u0131\u015fs\u0131n, ama biz sana yine de iyi davran\u0131yoruz\u201d demek ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fc. Olmas\u0131 gereken \u015fey sayg\u0131.\u00a0 100 y\u0131l \u00f6nce \u0130spanya\u2019da da insanlar inanc\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc. Katolik olmayanlar \u00e7ok bask\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fc. Tabii, art\u0131k a\u015f\u0131ld\u0131 bu t\u00fcr durumlar. Bunlar \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm yoluna gidildi\u011finde kimse ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fcden bahsetmedi, normalle\u015fmeye gidilmesi gerekti\u011finden bahsedildi. Normalle\u015fme olarak bahsedilen s\u00fcre\u00e7, \u201cherkes inanc\u0131yla e\u015fittir\u201d anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131d\u0131r. Herkes toplumda hak etti\u011fi yerde olsun, ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011fa u\u011framas\u0131n dendi. Normalle\u015fme s\u00fcreci T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de de olmal\u0131. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n, \u00f6tekiyi, farkl\u0131 olan\u0131 kucaklamay\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenmesi i\u00e7in konu\u015fmam\u0131z laz\u0131m. Art\u0131k duvarlar\u0131 a\u015fmak gerek, normalle\u015fme olmal\u0131.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0\u0130spanya ile T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin benzer y\u00f6nleri neler?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130kisi de Akdeniz \u00fclkesi. Biri Akdeniz\u2019in bat\u0131s\u0131nda, di\u011feri do\u011fusunda. T\u00fcrkiye, Avrupa ile Asya\u2019y\u0131; \u0130spanya ise Avrupa ve Afrika\u2019y\u0131 birbirine ba\u011fl\u0131yor. \u0130ki \u00fclkede de H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k ve \u0130slamiyet bir arada ya\u015fad\u0131 ge\u00e7mi\u015fte. \u0130kisinde de, 16. y\u00fczy\u0131lda \u0130spanya\u2019dan M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n kovulmas\u0131, Anadolu\u2019da ise \u0130stanbul\u2019un Osmanl\u0131 Devleti taraf\u0131ndan al\u0131nmas\u0131yla, H\u0131ristiyan n\u00fcfus azald\u0131. Birinde M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar azal\u0131rken, di\u011ferinde H\u0131ristiyan n\u00fcfus artt\u0131.\u00a0 \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumda \u0130spanya\u2019da, hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum, televizyonlar\u0131n siyah-beyaz oldu\u011fu d\u00f6nemde H\u0131ristiyanlar ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n sava\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 filmler yay\u0131nlan\u0131yordu. O filmlerde H\u0131ristiyanlar melek gibi, M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar ise gaddar, hain ve katil olarak g\u00f6steriliyordu. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye geldi\u011fimde ise yine siyah-beyaz filmler, yine H\u0131ristiyanlar ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar sava\u015f\u0131yordu. Fakat bu defa M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar melek gibi, H\u0131ristiyanlar hain, gaddar ve katil. K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckken \u0130spanya\u2019da haberlerde \u201cAraplar geliyor, toprak al\u0131yor, buray\u0131 yeniden M\u00fcsl\u00fcman yapacaklar\u201d diye haberler yap\u0131l\u0131yordu. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ise \u201cBilmem kimler toprak al\u0131yor, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi H\u0131ristiyan yapacaklar\u201d diyen haberler g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. \u0130spanya\u2019da hamamlara \u2018T\u00fcrk hamam\u0131\u2019 deniyor, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u015fark\u0131larda meyhanelere \u2018\u0130spanyol Meyhanesi\u2019 deniyor. Sadece roller ve ki\u015filer farkl\u0131yd\u0131, bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 ayn\u0131. O y\u00fczden buray\u0131 anlamakta \u00e7ok zorluk \u00e7ekmedik.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0\u0130spanya\u2019da farkl\u0131 inan\u00e7lar \u00f6zg\u00fcrce ya\u015f\u0131yorlar m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kilisemizin 10. y\u0131l\u0131nda bir kutlama yapt\u0131k. \u0130spanya Din \u0130\u015fleri Ba\u015fkan\u0131 ile T\u00fcrkiye Diyanet \u0130\u015fleri\u2019nden bir temsilci kat\u0131ld\u0131 kutlamam\u0131za. \u0130spanya\u2019da Ortodokslarla g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler vard\u0131 o d\u00f6nem, bu ba\u011flamda da \u0130spanya\u2019dan gelen temsilciyi Patrik Bartholomeos Hazretleri ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrd\u00fck. \u0130spanya H\u00fck\u00fcmeti, kendi \u00fclkelerinde ya\u015fayan farkl\u0131 inan\u00e7lara mensup cemaatlerle anla\u015fmalar imzalam\u0131\u015f. \u0130badet yerleri a\u00e7arken neler yapmalar\u0131 gerekti\u011fi, din adamlar\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l sigorta yapt\u0131racaklar\u0131, sosyal projeler konusunda birtak\u0131m anla\u015fmalar yapt\u0131lar. Bu anla\u015fmalar\u0131 Protestan, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ve Yahudi cemaatlerin temsilcileriyle imzalad\u0131. Ben bu anla\u015fmalar\u0131n \u0130ngilizce metnini 2003 y\u0131l\u0131nda D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019nda Avrupa Birli\u011fi ile ili\u015fkilerden sorumlu m\u00fcste\u015fara g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fcm. Bu bir \u00f6rnek olsun, T\u00fcrkiye h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin normalle\u015fme yolundaki \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na katk\u0131 sunsun diye. \u0130spanya\u2019da M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n durumu \u00e7ok iyi. Her t\u00fcrl\u00fc kolayl\u0131k sa\u011flan\u0131yor, camileri a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131yor, ibadetlerini yap\u0131yorlar. Devlet b\u00fct\u00e7esinden her y\u0131l 6 milyon Euro yard\u0131m g\u00f6r\u00fcyorlar.<\/p>\n

G\u00fcney Amerika\u2019daki Protestan Ermenilerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyorum. Arjantin, Brezilya, Uruguay, Paraguay\u2019da Ermenilerle ili\u015fkilerim var. 1915\u2019te buradan gidenler bir anlamda 1915\u2019te kald\u0131lar. B\u00fcy\u00fckannelerinden, b\u00fcy\u00fckbabalar\u0131ndan neler ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 dinliyorlar. Ermenice ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e biliyorlar. Kimliklerini koruyorlar fakat oraya g\u00f6re bir ya\u015fam s\u00fcr\u00fcyorlar. Oradakilerin tatl\u0131lar\u0131, yemekleri Anadolu\u2019ya \u00f6zg\u00fc yemekler. 1915\u2019ten sonra T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gelmemi\u015f olanlar k\u00f6t\u00fc an\u0131larla hat\u0131rl\u0131yorlar T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi. Fakat sonradan gelenlerin g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fleri de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Arjantin\u2019den Ermeni arkada\u015flar\u0131m geldi buraya. \u0130lk olarak memleketlerine, Adana\u2019ya gittiler, atalar\u0131n\u0131n k\u00f6y\u00fcn\u00fc buldular. \u00c7ok duygusal anlar ya\u015fad\u0131lar. Ermeni halk\u0131n\u0131n bu co\u011frafyadan neredeyse silinmi\u015f bir hale gelmesine \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcyorlar.<\/p>\n

\u00a0Bask sorunu ve K\u00fcrt sorunu birbirinden \u00e7ok farkl\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0\u0130spanya\u2019daki Bask sorununu nas\u0131l tan\u0131ml\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130spanya\u2019n\u0131n \u00fczerinde bulundu\u011fu \u0130ber Yar\u0131madas\u0131, tarihinden bu yana \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 krall\u0131klardan olu\u015fuyor. Katalan b\u00f6lgesi ayr\u0131, Bask b\u00f6lgesi ayr\u0131, \u015fu anda \u0130spanyolca dedi\u011fimiz dili konu\u015fan b\u00f6lge ayr\u0131 bir krall\u0131kt\u0131. Bask b\u00f6lgesi hari\u00e7 b\u00fct\u00fcn krall\u0131klar Latin k\u00f6kenli, Bask b\u00f6lgesi ise Asya k\u00f6kenlidir. Bu b\u00f6lgeler k\u00fclt\u00fcrleriyle, edebiyatlar\u0131yla farkl\u0131 geli\u015fen b\u00f6lgeler. Franco d\u00f6nemindeki bask\u0131lardan dolay\u0131 \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck isteyen kimi kesimlerin silahl\u0131 m\u00fccadelesi oldu. Franco \u00f6l\u00fcp demokrasiye ge\u00e7ildi\u011fi zaman bu b\u00f6lgelere \u00f6zerklik tan\u0131nd\u0131. Merkezi y\u00f6netime ba\u011fl\u0131, fakat bir\u00e7ok konuda kendi karar yetkisine sahip. \u0130spanya 17 \u00f6zerk b\u00f6lgeden olu\u015fuyor. Bask, Navarra ve Katalan b\u00f6lgesi en \u00f6zg\u00fcr b\u00f6lgeler. Franco \u00f6l\u00fcnce silahl\u0131 m\u00fccadele veren gruplar zamanla yok oldu. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc hem \u00f6zerklik geldi, hem de anadil \u00f6n\u00fcndeki yasaklar kalkt\u0131. Anadilde e\u011fitim yap\u0131lmas\u0131na izin verildi. \u00d6rne\u011fin Katalanya\u2019da birinci dil Katalanca, ikinci dil \u0130spanyolca. Sa\u011fl\u0131k ve e\u011fitim yerel y\u00f6netimin kontrol\u00fcnde. Bask b\u00f6lgesinde de durum b\u00f6yle. Fakat ETA ve baz\u0131 siyasi partiler, ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k talebinden vazge\u00e7medi. Katalan b\u00f6lgesinde ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k isteyenler var ama demokratik yollarla bunu ar\u0131yorlar, Bask ise hem demokrasi hem de demokrasiyi a\u015fan yollarla hak arama y\u00f6ntemi kullan\u0131yor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki durum \u0130spanya\u2019dan daha farkl\u0131. Bask ve Katalan b\u00f6lgesi \u00e7ok zengin b\u00f6lgelerdir. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ise durum tam tersi; en az geli\u015fmi\u015f b\u00f6lgenin bu y\u00f6nde talepleri var. Bask b\u00f6lgesinde \u015fu an ate\u015fkes var, h\u00fck\u00fcmetin m\u00fczakere i\u00e7in \u015fart\u0131 ise silahlar\u0131n ko\u015fulsuz teslim edilmesi. \u0130spanya\u2019daki durum, in\u015fallah, \u0130ngiltere\u2019deki gibi hallolur.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0\u0130spanya\u2019da son aylarda yap\u0131lan protestolar\u0131n nedeni ne?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130spanya\u2019da ekonomi \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc durumda, b\u00fcy\u00fck bir kriz var. H\u00fck\u00fcmet krizi iyi y\u00f6netemedi, durum daha k\u00f6t\u00fc oldu. \u0130lk \u00f6nce krizi ink\u00e2r etti, \u201cSorun yok\u201d dedi. Kriz a\u00e7\u0131k bir \u015fekilde etkisini g\u00f6stermeye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131nda ise yine \u00f6nlemler almad\u0131. Yat\u0131r\u0131mlar yerine, g\u00f6zboyama ve sorun k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fckm\u00fc\u015f gibi g\u00f6sterme yoluna gitti. Kriz, bankalar\u0131n a\u00e7g\u00f6zl\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden dolay\u0131 ya\u015fand\u0131. \u015eu an ise bir anlamda bankalar \u00f6d\u00fcllendiriliyor, h\u00fck\u00fcmet batmakta olan bankalara yard\u0131m ederek onlar\u0131 kurtar\u0131yor. M\u00fcd\u00fcrlerin maa\u015f\u0131na zam yap\u0131l\u0131yor. Sokaktaki vatanda\u015f ise ekonomiyi bu hale getirenlerin kurtar\u0131lmas\u0131ndan rahats\u0131z, \u0130spanya\u2019n\u0131n meydanlar\u0131ndaki protestolar\u0131n sebebi bu y\u00fczden. Ge\u00e7enlerde yerel se\u00e7imler yap\u0131ld\u0131. \u015eu an iktidarda olan \u0130spanya Sosyalist Partisi tarihinin en d\u00fc\u015f\u00fck oyunu ald\u0131.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de se\u00e7im s\u00fcreci \u00e7ok kavgal\u0131 ve hakaretlerle ge\u00e7ti. \u0130spanya\u2019da nas\u0131l ge\u00e7iyor se\u00e7imler?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ayn\u0131 buradaki gibi, se\u00e7imler d\u00f6rt y\u0131lda bir yap\u0131l\u0131yor orada da. \u0130spanya\u2019da partiler se\u00e7im propagandalar\u0131n\u0131, programlar\u0131 ve projeler \u00fczerinde y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcyorlar. \u015eahsiyetleri de\u011fil, projeleri konu\u015fuyorlar. Tabii, rakipleri hakk\u0131nda ayn\u0131 buradaki gibi \u201c\u015eu parti felaket getirecek\u201d diye s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar, hi\u00e7 dillerini tutmadan. Fakat ele\u015ftiriler daha \u00e7ok projeler \u00fczerinden y\u00fcr\u00fcyor, ki\u015filer \u00fczerinden de\u011fil.<\/p>\n

Agos, Say\u0131:793<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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