{"id":3155,"date":"2010-12-07T05:28:35","date_gmt":"2010-12-07T10:28:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=3155"},"modified":"2010-12-07T05:28:35","modified_gmt":"2010-12-07T10:28:35","slug":"bir-demokrasi-meselesi-patriklik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2010\/12\/07\/bir-demokrasi-meselesi-patriklik\/","title":{"rendered":"Bir demokrasi meselesi: Patriklik"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: right\"><strong><em><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-3157\" href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=3157\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-3157\" title=\"dilek_kurban\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/dilek_kurban1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"274\" height=\"170\" \/><\/a>D\u0130LEK\u00a0KURBAN<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><em>&#8216;Ermenilerin &#8216;geleneklerine&#8217; kim karar vermeli? Bunlar, hayat\u0131n ortaya \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131\u011f\u0131 yeni durum ve ihtiya\u00e7lara yan\u0131t vermedi\u011finde ne yapmak gerekir?&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ermeni Patrikli\u011fi se\u00e7imleriyle ilgili h\u00fck\u00fcmetin tutumunu ve Egemen Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6ylemini ele\u015ftirdi\u011fim yaz\u0131ya, cemaatin bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnden itirazlar geldi. Patrikhane \u00e7evresine yak\u0131n olmakla birlikte, din insan\u0131 olmayan bu kesimin ele\u015ftirilerini birka\u00e7 ba\u015fl\u0131k alt\u0131nda toplamak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Meseleye, bir patrikhane yetkilisinden veya \u2018uzman\u2019dan g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f almaks\u0131z\u0131n yakla\u015fmam, \u2018bilimsellik ve tarafs\u0131zl\u0131k\u2019la ba\u011fda\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi \u2018kullan\u0131lmama\u2019 yol a\u00e7m\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>\u2018M\u00fcsebbip h\u00fck\u00fcmet de\u011fil\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u0130stanbul Valili\u011fi\u2019nin patrik se\u00e7imlerine izin vermemesinin m\u00fcsebbibi h\u00fck\u00fcmet de\u011fil, cemaatin i\u00e7indeki bir grup, yani Patriklik Se\u00e7im M\u00fcte\u015febbis Heyeti\u2019dir. Patriklik Ruhani Meclisi taraf\u0131ndan e\u015f-patriklik se\u00e7imleri haz\u0131rl\u0131klar\u0131 yapmakla g\u00f6revlendirilen bu sivil heyet, yeni patrik se\u00e7imi yapmak \u00fczere h\u00fck\u00fcmete ba\u015fvurarak yetkilerini a\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. H\u00fck\u00fcmet, \u00f6n\u00fcne iki ayr\u0131 se\u00e7im ba\u015fvurusu gelince, ikisini de reddederek uygun bir \u2018ara \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u2019 geli\u015ftirmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Patrik Genel Vekili se\u00e7ilmesini \u00f6ng\u00f6ren bu \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm, h\u00fck\u00fcmetin icad\u0131 de\u011fil, patrikhanenin geleneklerinde var olan bir uygulamad\u0131r. Sadece belirli yetkileri olan \u2018Patrik Vekili\u2019 makam\u0131ndan farkl\u0131 olarak \u2018Patrik Genel Vekili\u2019, \u2018patri\u011fin makam\u0131nda bulunmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 durumlarda\u2019 patri\u011fin sahip oldu\u011fu b\u00fct\u00fcn yetkileri kullanma yetkisine sahiptir. E\u015f-patriklik makam\u0131 da geleneklerde mevcuttur. Patrikler, hayattayken, e\u015f-patrikleri \u2018kendilerine yard\u0131m etmek \u00fczere kendileri se\u00e7mi\u015flerdir\u2019.<br \/>\nPatrikhanenin tek yetkili makam\u0131 olan Ruhani Meclis\u2019in e\u015f-patrik se\u00e7me karar\u0131, b\u00fct\u00fcn din adamlar\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan onaylanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Patriklik siyasi de\u011fil, dini bir makamd\u0131r ve ruhani bir meselede sivillere s\u00f6z d\u00fc\u015fmez.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ermeni kilisesinin geleneklerine g\u00f6re, Patrik \u00f6lmedi\u011fi veya istifa etmedi\u011fi s\u00fcrece, yeni patrik se\u00e7ilemez, yeni patrik se\u00e7me karar\u0131 al\u0131namaz. Patrik Mesrob II vefat ettikten sonra, yeni patrik yine cemaat taraf\u0131ndan se\u00e7ilecektir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>\u0130tirazlara yan\u0131tlar\u0131m<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Kan\u0131mca bu, \u00f6ncelikle bir demokrasi tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131d\u0131r. S\u0131fat\u0131, yetkileri ne olursa olsun, se\u00e7imle i\u015fba\u015f\u0131na gelinen bir makama dair tart\u0131\u015fmalar, asl\u0131nda demokrasiye ili\u015fkindir. Ermeni cemaatinin oylar\u0131yla belirlenen patri\u011fin kim olaca\u011f\u0131, ne zaman ve nas\u0131l se\u00e7ilece\u011fi, s\u00f6z konusu olan sadece bir dini lider olsayd\u0131 dahi, ruhanilerin tek ba\u015flar\u0131na karar verece\u011fi bir mesele olarak g\u00f6r\u00fclemez. Ermeni toplumu bir b\u00fct\u00fcn olarak bu meselenin taraf\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Kald\u0131 ki Ermeni Patri\u011fi hi\u00e7bir zaman sadece bir dini lider olmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Temsil niteli\u011finde belirleyici olan kar\u015f\u0131n\u0131zdakince nas\u0131l alg\u0131land\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131zd\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye devleti patri\u011fi salt bir dini temsilci olarak g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f olsayd\u0131, vak\u0131flar\u0131n m\u00fclkiyet sorunlar\u0131ndan 1915\u2019e, Ermenistan ile ili\u015fkilerden Ermeni okullar\u0131n\u0131n sorunlar\u0131na, cemaatin b\u00fct\u00fcn sorunlar\u0131nda onu muhatap almazd\u0131. Se\u00e7ilmi\u015flik, bu makama, ruhani niteli\u011fini a\u015fan bir anlam y\u00fckl\u00fcyor. Bu ise Ermenileri o makam konusunda s\u00f6z sahibi yap\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Temel sorun<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Temel sorun, e\u015f-patrik, genel vekil, her neyse, patrik \u00f6lene dek yetkilerini kullanacak ki\u015fiye verilecek s\u0131fat de\u011fil, bu s\u0131fat\u0131n ta\u015f\u0131y\u0131c\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 kimin belirleyece\u011fi. Patrik, Ermeni cemaatinin se\u00e7ti\u011fi ve aralar\u0131nda sivillerin de bulundu\u011fu temsilciler taraf\u0131ndan se\u00e7ilirken, e\u015f-patrik, sadece ruhaniler taraf\u0131ndan belirleniyor. Keza, \u2018Patrik Genel Vekili\u2019 s\u0131fat\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yan Ate\u015fyan, Ruhaniler Genel Meclisi taraf\u0131ndan belirlenmi\u015f, yani atanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Kald\u0131 ki patri\u011fin \u015fehir d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndayken makam\u0131n\u0131 ge\u00e7ici olarak b\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve kendisi belirledi\u011fi genel vekille, o \u00f6lene dek b\u00fct\u00fcn yetkilerini kullanacak olan ve kendisinin se\u00e7medi\u011fi \u2018genel vekil\u2019in ayn\u0131 \u015fey oldu\u011funu iddia etmek, Ermeni cemaatinin zek\u00e2s\u0131n\u0131 epey hafife almak demek. Keza e\u015f-patri\u011fin de yine patrik taraf\u0131ndan belirleniyor olmas\u0131, akli melekeleri yerinde olmayan bir patrik s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda, ge\u00e7erli bir gelenek de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Gelenek ve demokrasi<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Patrik ne zaman \u00f6l\u00fcr? Son nefesini verdi\u011finde mi, beyni \u00e7al\u0131\u015famaz hale geldi\u011finde mi? T\u0131p eti\u011fi ile hukuk a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan epey tart\u0131\u015fmal\u0131, evet ama bu konudaki tek ve kesin h\u00fck\u00fcm ruhanilere ait olamaz. Ya, Ermenilerin \u2018geleneklerine\u2019 kim karar vermeli? Bunlar, hayat\u0131n ortaya \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131\u011f\u0131 yeni durum ve ihtiya\u00e7lara yan\u0131t vermedi\u011finde ne yapmak gerekir? Bug\u00fcne dek g\u00f6revdeyken akli melekelerini yitiren bir patrik olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6re, yeni bir gelenek \u00fcretmek gerekiyor. Kald\u0131 ki ruhanilerin mevcut gelene\u011fe dair yorumu da tart\u0131\u015fmal\u0131. Gelene\u011fe g\u00f6re, genel vekili de e\u015f-patri\u011fi de patri\u011fin kendisi belirler. Bu m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6re, karar\u0131 Ermeni toplumu vermeli.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-3156\" href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=3156\"><\/a>Peki, Ermeni cemaati kim? 50 bin ki\u015filik cemaatin 5 binden fazla \u00fcyesinin (e\u015f) patrik se\u00e7imleri talep etti\u011fi, h\u00fck\u00fcmetin se\u00e7im talebini reddetmesi karar\u0131n\u0131n Ermeni avukatlarca yarg\u0131ya ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131, cemaat gazetelerinin iki y\u0131ld\u0131r bu meseleyi g\u00fcndemde tuttu\u011fu bir halde, sadece patrikhane ve \u00e7evresinin g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fleri esas al\u0131namaz. H\u00fck\u00fcmetin hatas\u0131 tam da bu&#8230;<br \/>\nBug\u00fcne dek \u2018yen i\u00e7inde kals\u0131n\u2019 mant\u0131\u011f\u0131yla cemaat i\u00e7inde tutulmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131lan bu meselenin ulusal bas\u0131na ta\u015f\u0131nmas\u0131n\u0131n son derece hay\u0131rl\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. \u00dc\u00e7 bu\u00e7uk senedir Agos\u2019ta yazan ve T\u00fcrkiye toplumunda ya\u015fayan birisi olarak, benim de bu konuda s\u00f6z sahibi oldu\u011fuma inan\u0131yorum. Tarafs\u0131zl\u0131\u011fa gelince, hi\u00e7bir zaman b\u00f6yle bir iddiam olmad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>04\/12\/2010<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>http:\/\/www.radikal.com.tr\/Radikal.aspx?aType=RadikalYazar&amp;ArticleID=1031296&amp;Yazar=DILEK%20KURBAN&amp;Date=06.12.2010&amp;CategoryID=97<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D\u0130LEK\u00a0KURBAN \u00a0 &#8216;Ermenilerin &#8216;geleneklerine&#8217; kim karar vermeli? Bunlar, hayat\u0131n ortaya \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131\u011f\u0131 yeni durum ve ihtiya\u00e7lara yan\u0131t vermedi\u011finde ne yapmak gerekir?&#8217; Ermeni Patrikli\u011fi se\u00e7imleriyle ilgili h\u00fck\u00fcmetin tutumunu ve Egemen Ba\u011f\u0131\u015f\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6ylemini ele\u015ftirdi\u011fim yaz\u0131ya, cemaatin bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnden itirazlar geldi. 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