{"id":27389,"date":"2013-12-12T05:16:48","date_gmt":"2013-12-12T10:16:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=27389"},"modified":"2013-12-12T05:16:48","modified_gmt":"2013-12-12T10:16:48","slug":"ermenilikkulturelbirmesele","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/12\/12\/ermenilikkulturelbirmesele\/","title":{"rendered":"Ermenilik k\u00fclt\u00fcrel bir mesele"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/nm_berge_final_avedis_hadjian5550_0246.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-27391\" alt=\"nm_berge_final_avedis_hadjian5550_0246\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/nm_berge_final_avedis_hadjian5550_0246-300x216.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"216\" \/><\/a>SEVAG BE\u015e\u0130KTA\u015eLIYAN<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>Konferansa Patrik \u015enorhk Kalustyan\u2019\u0131n Anadolu Ermenileri \u00fczerine yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rma ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerin bu s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rmadaki yeri \u00fczerine bir sunumla kat\u0131lan Avedis Hadjian, New York\u2019ta gazetecilik yap\u0131yor. <\/i><\/b><b><i>2011\u2019den beri M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmek i\u00e7in T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi gezen Hadjian, bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeleri toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u2018A Secret Nation: The Hidden Armenians of Turkey\u2019 [Gizli Bir Ulus: T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Sakl\u0131 Ermenileri] isimli kitab\u0131n\u0131 2014\u2019te yay\u0131mlamaya haz\u0131rlan\u0131yor. Hadjian\u2019la Patrik \u015enorhk\u2019u ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeni kimli\u011fini konu\u015ftuk. <\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Patrik \u015enorhk Kalustyan ve onun yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rma, neden bu kadar \u00f6nemli Ermeni toplumu i\u00e7in?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Patrik \u015enorhk, \u00f6mr\u00fcn\u00fc Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u2019dan sonra T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de kalan Ermeni n\u00fcfusunu bir araya getirmeye vakfetmi\u015f bir insand\u0131r. Karde\u015flerini hastal\u0131ktan dolay\u0131 kaybetmesinin ard\u0131ndan, Yozgat\u2019\u0131n \u0130\u011fdeli K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2019nde annesi ve kendisi dahil 70 Ermeni kal\u0131r. Bu par\u00e7alanmay\u0131 bildi\u011finden Anadolu\u2019daki Ermeni \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 ve gen\u00e7leri \u0130stanbul\u2019da toplayabilmek i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7aba sarf etmi\u015ftir. Bir\u00e7o\u011funun e\u011fitim almas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flayan ki\u015fi odur.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bat\u0131 Ermenileri olarak an\u0131lan Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nun tarihi Ermeni b\u00f6lgelerindeki Ermeni n\u00fcfusunun ger\u00e7e\u011fini anlamak i\u00e7in Patrik \u015enorhk\u2019un s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rmas\u0131 \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli. Kendisi Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u2019dan sonra b\u00f6l\u00fcnen ve par\u00e7alanan Ermenileri isabetli bir \u015fekilde gruplam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Bir d\u00f6nem medyada da \u00e7ok yer alan ve sizin de sunumda bahsetti\u011finiz Patrik \u015enorhk\u2019un M\u00fcsl\u00fcman bir karde\u015fi oldu\u011fu meselesinden hareketle diyebiliriz ki, Patrik M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerin varl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan haberdar. <\/b><b>Fakat neden s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rmas\u0131nda onlara yer vermiyor sizce?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">O d\u00f6nemde bu pek konu\u015fulmas\u0131 kolay bir konu de\u011fil elbette, fakat \u015fimdi de g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz ki, Kilise\u2019nin bu konudaki duru\u015fu halen sert. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00f6zellikle T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir H\u0131ristiyan Ermeni \u0130slam\u2019a ihtida ettiyse, bu sadece din de\u011fi\u015ftirdi\u011fi anlam\u0131na gelmiyor, bu ayn\u0131 zamanda Ermeni kimli\u011fini de terk etmesi de demek. Patrik \u015enorhk\u2019un alg\u0131s\u0131 da bu y\u00f6nde.\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>2011\u2019den beri Anadolu Ermenileriyle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmek i\u00e7in T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi dola\u015f\u0131yorsunuz. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler kendilerini nas\u0131l tan\u0131ml\u0131yorlar?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Sadece birka\u00e7\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a Ermeniyiz diyebiliyorlar. Baz\u0131lar\u0131 Ermeni atalar\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131 kabul ediyor, fakat art\u0131k kendilerini dedelerinin mesafe koydu\u011fu bir milletten hissetmediklerini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Bunun tek bir sebebi var, kimliklerini tamamen a\u00e7\u0131klayam\u0131yorlar. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc kimlikleri, kom\u015fular\u0131n\u0131n ve di\u011ferlerinin g\u00fcnah dolu tarihini o insanlara hat\u0131rlat\u0131yor. \u201cGizli\u201d veya M\u00fcsl\u00fcman bir Ermeni olmak, niteliklere s\u0131\u011fmayan bireysel bir tecr\u00fcbe.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Sizce M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilik, bir kimlik sorunu mu, yoksa ba\u015fl\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131na bir kimlik mi?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u00a0\u00a0\u015eart gibi a\u011f\u0131r bir kelime kullanmak istemiyorum ama her kimli\u011fi ta\u015f\u0131mak i\u00e7in baz\u0131 gereklilikler vard\u0131r. O kimli\u011fe sahip olmak i\u00e7in belirli sadakatlere, bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131na ve tarih bilgisine sahip olman\u0131z gerekir. Yani ait oldu\u011funuz kimli\u011fin k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne hakim olmal\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. \u00d6rne\u011fin Japonya\u2019da do\u011fmad\u0131m ve Japonca bilmem, bu y\u00fczden de \u201cben Japonum\u201d diye iddia etmem \u00e7ok sa\u00e7ma olur. E\u011fer siz, \u201cben \u015fuyum\u201d diyorsan\u0131z, evet osunuzdur ama bu t\u00fcm ger\u00e7ekli\u011fi yans\u0131tmaz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bu noktada, milli, ulusal, \u0131rksal veya dini bir kimlikten bahsetmiyorum. Renginin ne oldu\u011fu, \u0131rk\u0131, kan\u0131nda ne akt\u0131\u011f\u0131 beni hi\u00e7 ilgilendirmez. \u0130yi et yemek i\u00e7in kuzunun cinsine bakman\u0131z gerekir veya iyi s\u00fct almak istiyorsan\u0131z, ine\u011fin \u0131rk\u0131 sizin i\u00e7in \u00f6nemlidir. Fakat insanlar i\u00e7in kan, \u0131rk ve geneti\u011fin hi\u00e7bir \u00f6nemi yoktur. Bu sebeple, benim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli olan k\u00fclt\u00fcr. Etnik olarak Ermeni olmayan ve Ermeni aileleri taraf\u0131ndan evlatl\u0131k al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f arkada\u015flar\u0131m var, Ermeni okullar\u0131na gitmi\u015fler ve en az benim kadar Ermeniler. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc burnunuz b\u00fcy\u00fck veya anneniz\/baban\u0131z Ermeni diye Ermeni olam\u0131yorsunuz, ortak bir ge\u00e7mi\u015fi hissetmeniz ve b\u00fcy\u00fck ama\u00e7lar\u0131 olan, ayn\u0131 ruhla sahip \u00e7\u0131kabildi\u011finiz ortak bir gelece\u011fi istemeniz gerekir.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Peki M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilere, Diaspora\u2019n\u0131n ve Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n bak\u0131\u015f\u0131 nas\u0131l?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bu sorunun tek bir cevab\u0131 yok elbette ki, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc ne Diaspora\u2019da, ne de Ermenistan\u2019da bu konuya dair tek bir bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 yok. Fakat genel alg\u0131 \u00fczerine konu\u015facak olursak, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler kavram\u0131na dair buralarda kuvvetli bir diren\u00e7 oldu\u011funu biliyorum. Fakat ayn\u0131 zamanda, \u00f6zellikle gen\u00e7 nesilde M\u00fcsl\u00fcman karde\u015flerini kabul etme e\u011filimi de giderek art\u0131yor. Bu s\u00fcrecin yava\u015f y\u00fcr\u00fcmesi \u00e7ok normal, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc biz Diaspora Ermenileri, \u00e7ok yak\u0131n bir zamana kadar tarihi Ermeni b\u00f6lgelerinde hi\u00e7 Ermeni kalmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 zannediyorduk ve \u015fimdi \u00f6\u011freniyoruz ki, bu b\u00f6lgelerde halen bir\u00e7ok Ermeni var.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bahsetti\u011fim direncin iki kayna\u011f\u0131 var. Birincisi M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerin din de\u011fi\u015ftirmi\u015f olmas\u0131 ve yeni kimliklerine ba\u011fl\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131. Di\u011fer neden ise Bat\u0131\u2019dakinin aksine dini kimli\u011fin halen bu b\u00f6lgede b\u00fcy\u00fck bir belirleyici olmas\u0131. Diaspora\u2019da \u201cM\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmas\u0131n\u0131n hi\u00e7bir \u00f6nemi yok\u201d tepkilerini \u00e7ok daha kolay al\u0131rken, T\u00fcrkiye ve Ermenistan\u2019da bu cevab\u0131 almak o kadar kolay de\u011fil h\u00e2l\u00e2.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi bir aile \u00fczerinden okumak<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm bir ki\u015fi, Ermeni atalar\u0131n\u0131n oldu\u011funu DNA testi sayesinde \u00f6\u011frenmi\u015fti. M\u00fctedeyyin bir M\u00fcsl\u00fcmand\u0131 kendisi, bu sonu\u00e7 onu \u015fok etmi\u015f. Soyun babadan geldi\u011fine inand\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan bu durumu kabul etmi\u015f ve sahiplenmi\u015f. Babas\u0131n\u0131n dedesinden gelen Ermeni kimli\u011fi hakk\u0131nda bir \u015feyler \u00f6\u011frenmeye \u00e7abal\u0131yordu. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin demografik yap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n do\u011fal bir sonucu olarak etnik olarak kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k bir aileye sahipti. G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz iki g\u00fcn boyunca aileden farkl\u0131 insanlar\u0131n Ermenilik haberine nas\u0131l farkl\u0131 tepkiler verebildiklerini g\u00f6zlemleme \u015fans\u0131 buldum. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin b\u00f6yle bir duruma kar\u015f\u0131 verece\u011fi t\u00fcm tepkileri bu aile \u00fczerinden okuyabiliriz. Gen\u00e7 o\u011flu, babas\u0131 M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmaya devam edebilece\u011fini s\u00f6yleyene kadar bu durumu kabullenmekte \u00e7ok zorlanm\u0131\u015f. Karde\u015fi bariz \u015fekilde \u00e7ok mutsuzdu, kendini \u201cteskin edecek\u201d \u015feyler ar\u0131yordu. Bir yerde, \u00c7e\u00e7enlerin sava\u015f\u00e7\u0131 gene sahip olduklar\u0131n\u0131 okumu\u015f, bana Ermenilerde b\u00f6yle bir gen olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sordu. Halas\u0131, gayet heyecanl\u0131yd\u0131, fakat Ermeni oldu\u011funu \u201cnormal bir \u015feymi\u015f gibi\u201d s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor olmas\u0131na arkada\u015flar\u0131 \u00e7ok \u015fa\u015f\u0131r\u0131yordu. Bir\u00e7ok Ermeninin H\u0131ristiyan oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frenince o da \u00e7ok \u015fa\u015f\u0131rd\u0131. Bu konuda bir fikri yoktu. 30\u2019lu ya\u015flar\u0131ndaki kuzeni de \u00e7ok mutluydu ve Ermeniler hakk\u0131nda daha \u00e7ok \u015fey \u00f6\u011frenmek istiyordu. Daha \u00f6nce bunun do\u011fru olaca\u011f\u0131na inanm\u0131yormu\u015f, fakat \u015fimdi ne olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rmek istedi\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Kafkas g\u00f6\u00e7meni M\u00fcsl\u00fcman G\u00fcrc\u00fc olan anne taraf\u0131ndan kuzeni ise ate\u015fli bir T\u00fcrk milliyet\u00e7isi. Bunu bir etnik k\u00f6ken olarak kabul edece\u011fini, fakat d\u00fcnyaya ve Ermenistan\u2019a bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n de\u011fi\u015fmeyece\u011fini belirtiyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>Patrik \u015enork\u2019un Anadolu Ermenileri s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rmas\u0131<\/b><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_27390\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27390\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/550patrik-k.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-27390\" alt=\"Patrik \u015enorhk Kalustyan\u2019\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/550patrik-k-300x427.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"427\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-27390\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Patrik \u015enorhk Kalustyan\u2019<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u201ca. Bilin\u00e7li bir \u015fekilde ve iste\u011fiyle \u0130slam\u2019a ihtida eden Ermeniler. Ermeni ulusuyla ba\u011flar\u0131 koparm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r ve T\u00fcrklerin aras\u0131nda ya\u015farlar. Bu grupta yakla\u015f\u0131k 1 milyon insan vard\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">b. \u00dc\u00e7 ku\u015fak \u00f6nce \u0130slam\u2019a ihtida etmi\u015f ve K\u00fcrt a\u015firetlerinin yap\u0131s\u0131 benzer \u015fekilde grupla\u015fm\u0131\u015f Ermeniler. Onlar\u0131n aras\u0131nda ya\u015farlar, fakat onlara kar\u0131\u015fmaktan ka\u00e7\u0131n\u0131rlar. Patrik\u2019e g\u00f6re Erzurum H\u0131n\u0131s\u2019ta \u015fartlar izin verdi\u011finde Ermeni Kilisesi\u2019ne geri d\u00f6necek olan 100 aile vard\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">c. \u0130ste\u011fi dahilinde veya zorla \u0130slam\u2019a ihtida etmi\u015f olan ve kendini halen Ermeni hissedenler. Zaman\u0131nda \u0130stanbul\u2019a yerle\u015fmi\u015flerdir. N\u00fcfus c\u00fczdan\u0131nda yer alan din hanesini M\u00fcsl\u00fcman\u2019dan Ermeni\u2019ye \u00e7evirmek i\u00e7in mahkemeye ba\u015fvuruyorlar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">d. Bug\u00fcn \u0130stanbul\u2019daki Ermeni toplumunun en b\u00fcy\u00fck par\u00e7as\u0131n\u0131 olu\u015fturan, Anadolu k\u00f6ylerinden [kavarahay] gelen, somut ve g\u00f6r\u00fcnmez bask\u0131lara ra\u011fmen Ermeni kalan saf Ermeniler.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">(1980\u2019de Kud\u00fcs\u2019te yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir konu\u015fmadan)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i><a href=\"mailto:besiktasliyan@agos.com.tr\">besiktasliyan@agos.com.tr<\/a><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/haber.php?seo=ermenilik-kulturel-bir-mesele&amp;haberid=6102<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SEVAG BE\u015e\u0130KTA\u015eLIYAN Konferansa Patrik \u015enorhk Kalustyan\u2019\u0131n Anadolu Ermenileri \u00fczerine yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rma ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerin bu s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rmadaki yeri \u00fczerine bir sunumla kat\u0131lan Avedis Hadjian, New York\u2019ta gazetecilik yap\u0131yor. 2011\u2019den beri M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmek i\u00e7in T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi gezen Hadjian, bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeleri toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u2018A Secret Nation: The Hidden Armenians of Turkey\u2019 [Gizli Bir Ulus: T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Sakl\u0131 Ermenileri] isimli kitab\u0131n\u0131 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,12,14,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27389","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ermeni-soykirimi","category-gunumuzde-bati-ermenileri","category-haberler","category-mulakatlar"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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