{"id":27094,"date":"2013-11-26T02:37:38","date_gmt":"2013-11-26T07:37:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=27094"},"modified":"2013-11-26T02:37:38","modified_gmt":"2013-11-26T07:37:38","slug":"mustan-uzanan-uzun-ince-bir-yol","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/11\/26\/mustan-uzanan-uzun-ince-bir-yol\/","title":{"rendered":"Mu\u015f\u2019tan uzanan uzun ince bir yol"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Alice-von-Bieberstein.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-27095\" alt=\"Alice von Bieberstein\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/11\/Alice-von-Bieberstein-300x220.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2013\/11\/Alice-von-Bieberstein-300x220.jpg 300w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2013\/11\/Alice-von-Bieberstein.jpg 545w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>FAT\u0130H G\u00d6KHAN D\u0130LER<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>\u2018M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermeniler Konferans\u0131\u2019n\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc g\u00fcn\u00fc, \u2018Haf\u0131za ve Kimlik\u2019 oturumunda \u2018Bir Bo\u015fluk Olarak Benlik\u2019 ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir konu\u015fma yapan Almanyal\u0131 sosyal bilimci Alice von Bieberstein\u2026 M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermenilerin torunlar\u0131 von Bieberstein\u2019\u0131n Mu\u015f\u2019taki saha \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n bir par\u00e7as\u0131 haline gelmi\u015f ve bunun \u00f6tesinde, etnografya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n esas\u0131 olan g\u00f6zlem, sorgulama ve \u00f6\u011frenme s\u00fcreci onun i\u00e7in ba\u015fka bir \u015feyin g\u00fcn y\u00fcz\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flam\u0131\u015f.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Sessizli\u011fe art\u0131k bir isim verildi\u011finde ve oradaki bilgi noksanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 fark edildi\u011finde, bo\u015fluk yava\u015f yava\u015f bir bedene kavu\u015fuyor. Kendilerine \u2018M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermeniler\u2019 olarak hitap edilen ki\u015filer ve bu ismin ard\u0131ndaki bo\u015fluk, onlar hakk\u0131ndaki bilgiye duyulan a\u00e7l\u0131k, pek \u00e7oklar\u0131n\u0131, ancak f\u0131s\u0131lt\u0131 ve hik\u00e2yelerle bilinebilen bu bo\u015flu\u011fu bir bedene kavu\u015fturmak i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck bir h\u0131rsla harekete ge\u00e7iriyor. Bu ki\u015filerden biri de Hrant Dink Vakf\u0131\u2019n\u0131n d\u00fczenledi\u011fi \u2018M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermeniler Konferans\u0131\u2019n\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc g\u00fcn\u00fc, \u2018Haf\u0131za ve Kimlik\u2019 oturumunda \u2018Bir Bo\u015fluk Olarak Benlik\u2019 ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir konu\u015fma yapan Almanyal\u0131 sosyal bilimci Alice von Bieberstein\u2026 M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermenilerin torunlar\u0131 von Bieberstein\u2019\u0131n Mu\u015f\u2019taki saha \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n bir par\u00e7as\u0131 haline gelmi\u015f ve bunun \u00f6tesinde, etnografya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n esas\u0131 olan g\u00f6zlem, sorgulama ve \u00f6\u011frenme s\u00fcreci onun i\u00e7in ba\u015fka bir \u015feyin g\u00fcn y\u00fcz\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flam\u0131\u015f. Son d\u00f6nemde b\u00f6lgede tekrar dirilen \u2018M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeni\u2019 kimli\u011fi ve beraberinde ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan cinsiyet ili\u015fkileri, kimlik politikalar\u0131 ve b\u00f6lgenin de\u011fi\u015fen jeopoliti\u011fi\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerle kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya gelmek etnografya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n bildi\u011fimiz kategorilerinden bir kopu\u015f ya da bu kategorilere kar\u015f\u0131 bir m\u00fccadele olarak idrak edilebilir. Ve dikkatler g\u00f6r\u00fcnmezli\u011fin tarihinden g\u00f6r\u00fcnene kayd\u0131k\u00e7a, von Beiberstein kimlik politikalar\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6tesinde ba\u015fka bir bo\u015flu\u011fu ke\u015ffediyor: \u201cKad\u0131n\u0131n ad\u0131 ge\u00e7miyor ve bu durum geni\u015f anlamda b\u00f6lgedeki akrabal\u0131k anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6steriyor ki, buna g\u00f6re biyolojik soy olarak \u2018Ermenilik\u2019 sadece soyk\u0131r\u0131mda hayatta kalan erkeklere ba\u011flan\u0131yor.\u201d<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Kad\u0131n\u0131n ad\u0131 ge\u00e7miyor derken tam olarak neyi kastediyorsunuz?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Daha iki hafta \u00f6nce bir k\u00f6ydeydim ve bu k\u00f6y\u00fcn yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 Ermeni mahallesi olarak adland\u0131rabiliriz. Bu mahalledeki evlerin neredeyse tamam\u0131nda, soyu zaman\u0131nda Xiyan a\u015firetine mensup aileler taraf\u0131ndan al\u0131nan \u00fc\u00e7 Ermeni yetim erkek \u00e7ocu\u011funa dayanan aileler var. \u00d6nceleri bu konuyu konu\u015fmakta biraz teredd\u00fct ya\u015fad\u0131m ama ara\u015ft\u0131rmaya devam etti\u011fimde 1915\u2019ten sonra k\u00f6yde al\u0131nan \u00fc\u00e7 kad\u0131n oldu\u011funu da \u00f6\u011frendim. Bu kad\u0131nlar\u0131n soyu, yerel akrabal\u0131k yap\u0131s\u0131 mant\u0131\u011f\u0131nda \u00f6nemsiz g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor, yani soyun belirlenmesi konusunda ilgisiz g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyorlar, hem de onlar\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131 ve torunlar\u0131n\u0131 bulmak imk\u00e2ns\u0131z oluyor. Bu \u00fc\u00e7 yetim Ermeni erkek \u00e7ocu\u011funun k\u0131z \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 hakk\u0131nda sorular sordu\u011fumda ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde bir \u00e7\u0131kmaz sokakla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131m. Hepsi evlenmi\u015f ve uzakla\u015fm\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Sizin Mu\u015f\u2019ta \u2018bug\u00fcn\u2019 kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z durum nedir? \u0130nsanlar Ermeni k\u00f6klerinin oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frendiklerinde kendini anlama, yeniden tan\u0131mlama d\u00f6nemlerine giriyorlar ve \u00e7orap s\u00f6k\u00fc\u011f\u00fc gibi devam\u0131 geliyor, bu \u015fekilde pek \u00e7ok hik\u00e2ye duyduk. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler \u00f6zelinde durum daha karma\u015f\u0131k\u2026 Sundu\u011funuz perspektiften bakarsak Mu\u015f\u2019ta neler ya\u015fan\u0131yor?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermeniler konferans\u0131 boyunca Ermeni kimdir ya da nedir sorular\u0131 s\u0131k\u00e7a kar\u015f\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Hik\u00e2yelerin ve tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n sunulu\u015f \u015fekli bir kez daha asimilasyon ve tek tiple\u015ftirme politikalar\u0131n\u0131n hayat\u0131n her alan\u0131nda uygulad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u015fiddeti g\u00f6stermekle kalmad\u0131, ayn\u0131 zamanda bu politikalar\u0131n \u2018kan\u2019 ve \u2018\u0131rk\u2019 ile ilgili fikirlerin saltanat\u0131n\u0131n s\u00fcrmesine de nas\u0131l katk\u0131 yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 da g\u00f6sterdi. Farkl\u0131 bir\u00e7ok k\u00f6kenini varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ke\u015ffetmi\u015f olmak da bu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce yap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n terk edilmesi anlam\u0131na gelmiyor, benzer durum Ermenili\u011fin kendisi de H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131ktan kopar\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda da ge\u00e7erli. Mu\u015f\u2019ta bana kendilerini \u2018Ermeni\u2019 olarak tan\u0131tanlar\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu, bunun ne anlama geldi\u011fini sordu\u011fumda b\u00fcy\u00fckbabalar\u0131na referans vererek cevaplad\u0131lar. Mesela birisi \u201cAlice, her nereye gidersen git Alman kalacaks\u0131n de\u011fil mi? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc annen ve baban Alman. Benim b\u00fcy\u00fckbabam Ermeniydi. Bu i\u015fler b\u00f6yle. \u0130nk\u00e2r edilemez\u201d dedi. Yani Ermenilik, b\u00fcy\u00fckbabadan gelen ve torunlar\u0131n damarlar\u0131nda akan ink\u00e2r edilemez kan\u0131 temsil ediyor.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Size g\u00f6re bu durumun Mu\u015f\u2019taki yans\u0131malar\u0131 neler?<\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Mu\u015f\u2019taki \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmamda bana en \u00e7arp\u0131c\u0131 gelen \u015fey Ermeni erkeklerin kamusal alandaki varl\u0131\u011f\u0131. Erkekler d\u0131\u015far\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor, kad\u0131nlar evde duruyor. Mu\u015f\u2019ta Ermenilikle ilgili ne varsa, kimlik, varl\u0131k, k\u00fclt\u00fcr, bunlar\u0131n hepsi bana erkekler arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla geldi. Ermenili\u011fi erkekler sahipleniyor. Mesela, kad\u0131n bir K\u00fcrt aileye gelin gitmi\u015fse onun Ermeni kimli\u011fiyle ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel miras\u0131yla ilgilenilmiyor. Kimim, neyim, nereden geldim gibi sorular\u2026 Bir olu\u015f, olagelmek sorunu\u2026 Bunlar\u0131n hi\u00e7biri kad\u0131nlar i\u00e7in ortaya \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f de\u011fil. Kendini olu\u015fturmak gibi bir proje, kim olaca\u011f\u0131m, ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m, bunlar erkeklerin haklar\u0131 ve kad\u0131nlar\u0131n etkisi olmadan, onlar\u0131 d\u0131\u015flayarak ger\u00e7ekle\u015fiyor. Ermeni olmayan aileleri ziyaret etti\u011fimde hemen hemen t\u00fcm aileye tan\u0131t\u0131ld\u0131m, fakat Ermenilerde sadece erkelerle, geriye kalanlardan uzak tutuldum.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Kad\u0131nlar hik\u00e2yeleri anlatan, dili \u00f6\u011freten arac\u0131, Ermenili\u011fi ta\u015f\u0131yan, k\u00fclt\u00fcrle besleyen ki\u015filer ama hi\u00e7bir zaman s\u00f6z sahibi olamad\u0131lar.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Konu\u015fman\u0131zda, Ermeni kimli\u011fini fark eden ya da bir \u015fekilde tekrar kavu\u015fan Mu\u015f\u2019taki M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n, bu kimli\u011fi ke\u015ffetmeye, anlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 aktarm\u0131\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z. Ermenili\u011fi tan\u0131mak, pek \u00e7ok zaman ayn\u0131 zamanda H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 tan\u0131may\u0131 da beraberinde getiriyor. Mu\u015f\u2019taki M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler b\u00f6yle bir kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fma ya\u015f\u0131yorlar. Baz\u0131 erkeklerin Ermenistan\u2019da ikinci e\u015fleri, aileleri oldu\u011fu dedikodular\u0131 bu kimlik \u00e7arp\u0131\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc olabilir mi?\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u0130kinci e\u015fler, hi\u00e7bir zaman do\u011frudan konu\u015fulan bir \u015fey olmad\u0131 ama f\u0131s\u0131lt\u0131lar, dedikodular vard\u0131. Ermenistan\u2019da ikinci bir e\u015f arzusu olabilir ya da muhtemelen ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmi\u015f de olabilir. Bu erkekler i\u00e7in olmak istedikleri ki\u015fili\u011fin, yeniden ke\u015ffetmek sahip olmak istedikleri Ermenili\u011fin,\u00a0 Ermeni kimli\u011finin i\u00e7inde ayn\u0131 zamanda bir ailenin de yeri var, hayalini kurduklar\u0131 bu kimli\u011fin i\u00e7inde ona uygun bir aile de var. Bu aile tabii ki Mu\u015f\u2019takinden farkl\u0131 ve ayr\u0131 bir aile\u2026 Ermenistan\u2019daki bu kad\u0131nlarla ya sosyal medya ya da oraya d\u00fczenlenen i\u015f gezileriyle ba\u011f kuruluyor. Ermenistan\u2019da ba\u015fka bir kad\u0131nla evli oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyen birisi oldu\u011funu duydum ve belki de \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 var.<\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify\">\n<li><b>Bu do\u011fruysa, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 nas\u0131l yeti\u015ftiriyorlar, bir fikriniz var m\u0131? Sonu\u00e7ta sahip olmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 kimlikte H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n yeri b\u00fcy\u00fck ama bu dinin pratiklerine de olduk\u00e7a yabanc\u0131lar. <\/b><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bu konuda tabii ki net bir \u015fey s\u00f6yleyemem ancak H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k meselesinde, Mu\u015f\u2019ta \u00e7ocu\u011funu Ermenistan\u2019da \u00fcniversite okumas\u0131 i\u00e7in g\u00f6nderen birisini tan\u0131d\u0131m, \u00e7ocuklar ve di\u011fer cinsiyetle olan ba\u011flant\u0131lar arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla Ermenili\u011fin bu k\u0131sm\u0131, yani dinle ilgili k\u0131sm\u0131 anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor, bu \u015fekilde elde ediliyor olabilir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bu erkeklerin benimle s\u0131k\u00e7a payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir \u015fey var: Ermenistan Cumhuriyeti\u2019yle olan yak\u0131nla\u015fma orada kabul g\u00f6rmekle, ho\u015f kar\u015f\u0131lanmakla ilgili, \u0130stanbul\u2019da ayn\u0131 ho\u015f kar\u015f\u0131lanmay\u0131 maalesef g\u00f6remiyorlar. \u0130stanbul\u2019daki Ermeni toplumuyla ba\u011flant\u0131 kurmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan \u00e7ok say\u0131da M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015fm\u0131\u015f Ermeni var ancak kap\u0131 \u00fczerlerine kapand\u0131\u011f\u0131nda ama\u00e7lar\u0131 i\u00e7in ba\u015fka bir yol buluyorlar. Ermenistan\u2019dan Mu\u015f\u2019a gelen ve Mu\u015f\u2019ta oraya giden \u00e7ok say\u0131da insan var. Bu ki\u015filer i\u00e7in bu t\u00fcr ba\u011flant\u0131lar kurmak \u00e7ok heyecan verici, anayurt kavram\u0131 onlara a\u015fk\u0131nl\u0131k veren bir konu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ermenistan\u2019dan gelen ki\u015filer y\u00fczde 90\u2019\u0131 erkek. Kendilerini b\u00fcy\u00fck cesaret gerektiren bir \u015feyi ba\u015farm\u0131\u015f ki\u015filer olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyorlar, bu hissediliyor. Kad\u0131nlar ise ka\u00e7\u0131r\u0131lma, al\u0131 konma gibi ge\u00e7mi\u015ften gelen korkular besledi\u011fi i\u00e7in gelemiyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bu insanlar i\u00e7in yeniden ba\u011f kurmak, Ermenilikle ili\u015fkili olmak \u00f6nemli bir \u015fey ve bu sebeple ba\u011flant\u0131lar ar\u0131yorlar. Mu\u015f ise \u00e7ok fakir bir yer ve kaynaklar \u00e7ok az. Orada bir t\u00fcr Ermeni kurumu a\u00e7mak isteyen birisiyle konu\u015ftum ve \u0130stanbul Ermeni Patrikli\u011fi\u2019nin bu konuda yard\u0131m etmesi, kaynak sa\u011flamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Do\u011fuda ya\u015fayan Ermeniler i\u00e7in b\u00f6yle bir beklenti var: Sahip \u00e7\u0131k\u0131lmak. Onlara g\u00f6re \u0130stanbul\u2019daki Ermeni toplumu \u0130slamla\u015fm\u0131\u015f Ermenileri kucaklamal\u0131. Bu a\u00e7\u0131dan ilgin\u00e7 bir durum, Patriklik ger\u00e7ekten dini de\u011fil etnik bir kurum olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Din \u00f6nemli de\u011fil, etnik kimlik \u00f6nemli diyorlar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><a href=\"mailto:fgdiler@agos.com.tr\"><b>fgdiler@agos.com.tr<\/b><\/a><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/haber.php?seo=mustan-uzanan-uzun-ince-bir-yol&amp;haberid=6104<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>FAT\u0130H G\u00d6KHAN D\u0130LER \u2018M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermeniler Konferans\u0131\u2019n\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc g\u00fcn\u00fc, \u2018Haf\u0131za ve Kimlik\u2019 oturumunda \u2018Bir Bo\u015fluk Olarak Benlik\u2019 ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir konu\u015fma yapan Almanyal\u0131 sosyal bilimci Alice von Bieberstein\u2026 M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermenilerin torunlar\u0131 von Bieberstein\u2019\u0131n Mu\u015f\u2019taki saha \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n bir par\u00e7as\u0131 haline gelmi\u015f ve bunun \u00f6tesinde, etnografya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n esas\u0131 olan g\u00f6zlem, sorgulama ve \u00f6\u011frenme s\u00fcreci onun i\u00e7in ba\u015fka bir \u015feyin [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,14,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27094","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gunumuzde-bati-ermenileri","category-haberler","category-mulakatlar"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.6 - 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