{"id":25877,"date":"2013-10-01T06:21:56","date_gmt":"2013-10-01T11:21:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=25877"},"modified":"2013-10-01T06:21:56","modified_gmt":"2013-10-01T11:21:56","slug":"hurriyetin-bir-yazisiyla-ilgili","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/10\/01\/hurriyetin-bir-yazisiyla-ilgili\/","title":{"rendered":"H\u00fcrriyet\u2019in bir yaz\u0131s\u0131yla ilgili"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/0akunq.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-25878\" alt=\"0akunq\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/0akunq.jpg\" width=\"140\" height=\"60\" \/><\/a>25 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de, H\u00fcrriyet gazetesi yazarlar\u0131ndan Sava\u015f \u00d6zbey, Bat\u0131 Ermenileri Sorunlar\u0131 Ara\u015ft\u0131rma Merkezi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fanlar\u0131ndan Meline Anumyan arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla, bize gazetelerinde Kripto Ermenilerle ilgili bir makale yay\u0131mlamak istedi\u011fini belirtti. <\/i><i>\u00d6zbey, T\u00fcrkiye ve diasporadan da uzmanlar\u0131n cevaplayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi\u011fi 4 soruya k\u0131saca cevap vermemizi rica etti.<\/i><i> Ayr\u0131ca, bu yan\u0131tlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n, <\/i><i>hi\u00e7bir de\u011fi\u015fiklik yap\u0131lmadan <\/i><i>aynen yay\u0131mlanaca\u011f\u0131 konusunda da anla\u015ft\u0131k. <\/i><i>\u00d6zbey, herhangi bir de\u011fi\u015fiklik yapmak gerekti\u011finde, bunu bize bildirece\u011fi konusunda da a\u00e7\u0131k beyanda bulundu.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i>29 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de H\u00fcrriyet gazetesinde Sava\u015f \u00d6zbey imzas\u0131yla \u00ab<\/i><i>Cevizin kal\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 boynunu ge\u00e7erse o boyun gider\u00bb ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 makale yay\u0131mland\u0131. \u2018Akunq\u2019 web sayfas\u0131 da makaleyi Ermeniceye de terc\u00fcme ederek, hem T\u00fcrk\u00e7esine <\/i><i>(<a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=25841\">http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=25841<\/a><\/i><i>), hem de Ermenicesine <\/i><i>(<a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/am\/?p=34237\">http:\/\/akunq.net\/am\/?p=34237<\/a>) yer verdi. <\/i><i>Ger\u00e7ekten ilgin\u00e7 ve faydal\u0131 bir makale olmas\u0131 nedeniyle, bir okur olarak, kendisine te\u015fekk\u00fcr etmek isterim.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i>Fakat say\u0131n yazar, cevaplarda hi\u00e7bir de\u011fi\u015fiklik yapmadan, aynen yay\u0131nlayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemesine ra\u011fmen, sadece 4 c\u00fcmle yay\u0131nlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. \u00dcstelik, altba\u015fl\u0131k olarak ba\u011flamdan kopuk bir c\u00fcmle kullanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/i><i>Okuyucular\u0131m\u0131z ise bu ifadenin bana ait oldu\u011funu ve benim fikirlerimin yans\u0131mas\u0131 olarak zannedebilirlier.<\/i><i>Oysa, altba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n i\u015flevi, s\u00f6ylenenleri aynen yans\u0131tmak olmal\u0131d\u0131r.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i>S\u00f6yle\u015fiye kat\u0131lanlar\u0131n s\u00f6ylediklerinden yap\u0131lan se\u00e7im, ayr\u0131ca, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcr\u00fcc\u00fcd\u00fcr. Bir \u00f6rnek g\u00f6stermek gerekirse, Hala\u00e7o\u011flu,<\/i><i> Kripto Ermenilere ili\u015fkin olarak \u015funlar\u0131 s\u00f6ylemektedir: \u201c<\/i><i>Bu ortadaki durum onlar a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan da bir zul\u00fcm. Kendilerini M\u00fcsl\u00fcman kisvesi alt\u0131nda g\u00f6steren insanlar\u0131n kendi asli dinleriyle toplumumuzda yer almalar\u0131 gerekir. \u00c7ekiniyorlar deniyor.\u00a0 Bence art\u0131k b\u00f6yle bir ortam yok T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u201d. <\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i>Hala\u00e7o\u011flu, tabii ki korku ortam\u0131ndan s\u00f6zetmektedir. <\/i><i>Bu durumda, \u015fu soru ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmaktad\u0131r: <\/i><i>Hrant Dink ve Malatya ve Trabzon\u2019da katledilen Hristiyan ruhaniler hangi ortamda \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc?&#8230; <\/i><i>Halbuki, ayn\u0131 soruya, T\u00fcrkiye Anayasas\u0131&#8217;na dayanarak verdi\u011fimiz cevap, ger\u00e7e\u011fin ta kendisidir.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i>Bu yanl\u0131\u015f anla\u015f\u0131lmay\u0131 d\u00fczeltmek ve okurlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n mektuplarla bize bildirdikleri \u015fa\u015fk\u0131nl\u0131k ifadelerine bir cevap olmas\u0131 i\u00e7in, H\u00fcrriyet Gazetesi&#8217;ne verdi\u011fim r\u00f6portaj\u0131n tamam\u0131n\u0131, Ermenice ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olarak yay\u0131ml\u0131yorum.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><i>\u015eunu da belirtmek isterim ki, Sava\u015f \u00d6zbey, 30 Eyl\u00fcl&#8217;de yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 mektupta, durumun yer darl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan kaynakland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemektedir. Ben de, ona cevaben, r\u00f6portaj\u0131n tamam\u0131n\u0131 yay\u0131nlayaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a belirttim.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\"><b><i>Haykazun Alvrtsyan<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>Soru- <\/i><\/b><i>Sizce Kripto Ermeni kimdir ve kimlere denir?<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>Cevap-<\/b> \u0130stanbul\u2019da Ermeni cemaati ve Vak\u0131fl\u0131 K\u00f6y\u00fc gibi birka\u00e7 yerle\u015fimde ya\u015fayan az say\u0131da Hristiyan Ermeni hari\u00e7 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Ermeniler M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bir k\u0131sm\u0131 da Alevi inanc\u0131na mensuptur. Fakat bu Ermenilerden sadece milli aidiyetlerinin fark\u0131nda olup bunu nesilden nesile aktararak, ailelerinde kimi Ermeni ulusal geleneklerle g\u00f6renekleri koruyan, d\u0131\u015far\u0131dan evliliklerden ka\u00e7\u0131nan ve gizlice Hristiyanl\u0131\u011fa inanlar\u0131, Kripto olarak de\u011ferlendirmemiz gerekir. Fakat gizli Hristiyan olmalar\u0131 \u015fart de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bu insanlardan bir k\u0131sm\u0131, baz\u0131 ko\u015fullar nedeniyle, \u0130stanbul&#8217;da ya\u015famaya ba\u015flay\u0131p, Ermeni Apostolik (Gregoryen) Kilisesi\u2019ne d\u00f6n\u00fcyorlar. Ancak, bu Ermenilerin \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu, bu olanaktan yoksundur zira Ermeni Kilisesi\u2019nin faaliyeti, \u0130stanbul d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndaki yerle\u015fimlerde yasaklanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Yukar\u0131da s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011fim, toplam 1000-1500 nuf\u00fcsl\u00fc 5-6 k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck yerle\u015fim b\u00f6lgesi bir istisna te\u015fkil etmektedir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermenilerin, galiba yar\u0131s\u0131, bu ger\u00e7e\u011fi bilmelerine ra\u011fmen, hat\u0131rlamak bile istemiyorlar. Bu Ermenileri, Kripto Ermenilerle kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmamam\u0131z gerekir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>Soru- <\/i><\/b><i>Kripto Ermeniler 1915 olaylar\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda m\u0131 ortaya \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r? Bunun \u00f6ncesi ve sonras\u0131 var m\u0131d\u0131r?<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>Cevap-<\/b> Osmanl\u0131\u2019da Ermenilerin (ve di\u011fer Hristiyan halklar\u0131n) M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131, as\u0131rlara dayanmaktad\u0131r. \u00c7ok say\u0131da fakt\u00f6r\u00fcn yan\u0131 s\u0131ra, sosyal bask\u0131 ve 1895&#8217;te, y\u00fczbinlerce Ermeninin hayat\u0131na mal olan toplu katliamlar\u0131n da rol\u00fc b\u00fcy\u00fckt\u00fcr. Tabii ki, zorla M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermeniler aras\u0131nda, ulusal kimliklerini uzun s\u00fcre korumakla birlikte, kendilerini M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olarak g\u00f6sterenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 da az de\u011fildi. Ama, bana g\u00f6re, Kripto Ermeniler, toplumsal bir katman olarak, 1915\u2019te ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Sebebi anla\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r: Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu genelinde, bir millet olarak, kimi haklara ve kiliselere sahip olan Ermeniler, 1915-1923 y\u0131llar\u0131 aras\u0131nda, neredeyse b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcyle, Tehcir ve ba\u015fka yollarla yok edildi. Lozan Anla\u015fmas\u0131\u2019nda ise sadece \u0130stanbul\u2019da Ermeni ve Hristiyan olarak ya\u015fama hakk\u0131na sahip oldu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti\u2019nde din de\u011fi\u015ftirme vb yollarla Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u2019dan kurtar\u0131lanlar\u0131n durumu daha da k\u00f6t\u00fcle\u015fti. Cumhuriyet d\u00f6neminde Ermeniler (ve di\u011fer halklar), Anayasa gere\u011fince de T\u00fcrk olarak kabul edilmekteydi, ki bu madde h\u00e2l\u00e2 y\u00fcr\u00fcrl\u00fcktedir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>Soru- <\/i><\/b><i>Yakla\u015f\u0131k say\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 ne kadar tahmin etmek gerekir?<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>Cevap-<\/b> Tabii ki, ger\u00e7e\u011fe, biraz da olsa, yak\u0131n bir herhangi say\u0131dan s\u00f6z etmek \u00e7ok zordur. T\u00fcrk medyas\u0131 ve kimi ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar, birka\u00e7 onbinden 1.5- 2 milyona varan \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 say\u0131lar\u0131 telaffuz etmektedir. Fakat, \u00e7e\u015fitli kaynaklara dayanarak, a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a belirtilmelidir ki, Soyk\u0131r\u0131m&#8217;dan kurtulanlar\u0131n say\u0131s\u0131 400 bin civar\u0131ndad\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;deki n\u00fcfus art\u0131\u015f h\u0131z\u0131n\u0131 hesaba katt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, (o zamandan bu zamana 7-8 kat artm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r) M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermeni n\u00fcfusunun 3 milyon kadar olabilece\u011fini tahmin edebiliriz. Ayr\u0131ca, Ermenilerin, Cumhuriyet devrinde, di\u011fer milletlere nazaran daha fazla g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015f olduklar\u0131ndan eminim. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla 1.5-2 milyon say\u0131s\u0131 daha olas\u0131 gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcnmektedir. Bu say\u0131n\u0131n yakla\u015f\u0131k yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 ise Kripto Ermeniler te\u015fkil etmekteler.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>Soru- <\/i><\/b><i>Sizce T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin dinini ve kimli\u011fini de\u011fi\u015ftirmek zorunda kalm\u0131\u015f bu insanlar\u0131 kucaklamak i\u00e7in ne yapmas\u0131 gerekir?<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>Cevap-<\/b> Bu olay, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;yi y\u00f6netenlerin izledikleri milli siyasetin bir sonucudur. Demek ki, bu siyasetin ve bu siyasetin izlenmesine neden olan Anayasa&#8217;n\u0131n ilgili maddelerinin de\u011fi\u015ftirilmesi gerekir. T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin T\u00fcrk olmayan vatanda\u015flar\u0131, T\u00fcrklerle ayn\u0131 haklara sahip olmal\u0131d\u0131r. T\u00fcrk olmayan vatanda\u015flar\u0131n, kimliklerini \u00f6zg\u00fcrce ifade edip koruyabilecekleri, anadilde e\u011fitim g\u00f6rebilecekleri, ifade ve inan\u00e7 bak\u0131m\u0131ndan \u00f6zg\u00fcr olacaklar\u0131, kendi ulusal k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerini geli\u015ftirebilecekleri ko\u015fullar\u0131n sa\u011flanmas\u0131 gerekir. Burada, yasalarda yap\u0131lacak de\u011fi\u015fiklikler sonucu uygulamaya konacak reformlar \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde, bu ki\u015filerin gasp edilen mallar\u0131n\u0131n iade edilmesi de kastedilmektedir. \u0130ade edilecek mallar ifadesiyle, okul v.b. kurumlar\u0131n binalar\u0131, kilise ve cemaat topraklar\u0131, kilise m\u00fclkleri, mezarl\u0131klar ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel zenginlikler s\u00f6z konusu edilmektedir. Fakat as\u0131l \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmesi gereken sorun, milliyet\u00e7i bir s\u00f6ylemle, siyasi \u00f6rg\u00fct v.b. kurulu\u015flarda, Ermenilere ve di\u011fer az\u0131nl\u0131k halklara kar\u015f\u0131, toplumda uyand\u0131r\u0131lan nefret ve inkarc\u0131 tutumun ortadan kald\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>25 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de, H\u00fcrriyet gazetesi yazarlar\u0131ndan Sava\u015f \u00d6zbey, Bat\u0131 Ermenileri Sorunlar\u0131 Ara\u015ft\u0131rma Merkezi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fanlar\u0131ndan Meline Anumyan arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla, bize gazetelerinde Kripto Ermenilerle ilgili bir makale yay\u0131mlamak istedi\u011fini belirtti. \u00d6zbey, T\u00fcrkiye ve diasporadan da uzmanlar\u0131n cevaplayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi\u011fi 4 soruya k\u0131saca cevap vermemizi rica etti. 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