{"id":2355,"date":"2010-10-16T14:47:23","date_gmt":"2010-10-16T19:47:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=2355"},"modified":"2010-10-16T14:47:23","modified_gmt":"2010-10-16T19:47:23","slug":"bu-aci-kimin-turkiyede-ermeni-olmak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2010\/10\/16\/bu-aci-kimin-turkiyede-ermeni-olmak\/","title":{"rendered":"Bu Ac\u0131 Kimin? – T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni Olmak\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"

Sunu\u015f:<\/strong> Ge\u00e7ti\u011fimiz hafta bir gurup duyarl\u0131 isim bir araya geldi ve \u2018 Bu Ac\u0131 Hepimizin \u2018 eylemini ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdi. Bu anlaml\u0131 eylemin imza metninin vurgular\u0131ndan biri; bir \u00e7ok Ermeni vatanda\u015f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n art\u0131k bizimle olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131yd\u0131. Evet, ger\u00e7ekten 1915\u2032 n\u00fcfusumuz 13 milyonken, bu topraklarda 1,5 – 2 milyon Ermeni ya\u015f\u0131yordu. Her biri \u00fclkenin farkl\u0131 \u015fehirlerinde ya\u015f\u0131yordu. 1915\u2032te, bir bilinmeze \u00a0g\u00f6nderilmeye ba\u015fland\u0131lar. Bu \u00fclkenin yetimi, \u00f6ks\u00fcz\u00fc, vatanda\u015f\u0131 olarak kalmak isteyenler ise sokak ortas\u0131nda \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc. \u015eimdi art\u0131k bir\u00e7o\u011fu maalesef bu topraklarda de\u011fil, daha do\u011frusu bu topraklarda ama topra\u011f\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcnde de\u011fil, topra\u011f\u0131n alt\u0131nda. Art\u0131k yoklar.Onlar\u0131 kaybettik\u2026 <\/em><\/p>\n

Biz de kaybet(me)di\u011fimiz bir Ermeni dostumuzla, sevgili Garabet Orun\u00f6z ile hen\u00fcz onu da kaybetmemi\u015fken, bug\u00fcne kadar konu\u015famad\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 konu\u015fmak istedik. Umar\u0131z bu insan\u00a0 insana \u00a0s\u00f6yle\u015fi, bu ac\u0131n\u0131n hepimizin oldu\u011funu bir nebze olsun hat\u0131rlatabilir, anlatabilir.<\/em><\/p>\n

C.B: Garabet bey sizi biraz tan\u0131yabilir miyiz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. \u00a0Do\u011fru olmamakla beraber, devletin vermi\u015f oldu\u011fu belgeye dayanarak, 1 Nisan\u00a0 1960 do\u011fumluyum. Kendimi hat\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m tarih olan; 1964\u00a0 ayn\u0131 zamanda \u00a0anam\u0131n \u00f6l\u00fcm y\u0131l\u0131, \u00a0d\u00f6nemin ince hastal\u0131k dedi\u011fi, hastal\u0131ktan vefat\u0131 sonucu, babam, \u00a03 ayl\u0131k bir k\u0131z bebek, d\u00f6rt ya\u015f\u0131ndaki ben (garabet)\u00a0 ve\u00a0 7 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir ablayla beraber ayn\u0131 evde ya\u015fama tutunmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f biriyim.\u00a0 Yedi ya\u015f\u0131na kadar, sonra m\u0131? kom\u015fumuz Sara Makas\u00e7\u0131;\u00a0 benim bir Ermeni okulunda okumam i\u00e7in babam\u0131 ikna edip, \u00a0\u0130stanbul\u2019daki Gedikpa\u015fa\u00a0 Ermeni Protestan Yat\u0131l\u0131 okuluna yollamas\u0131yla devam ediyor. Tuzla Kamp Armen\u2019de kalarak Ortaokul\u2019u daha sonra 1975-77 y\u0131llar\u0131nda Yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda tahsil ve geri d\u00f6n\u00fcp Kapal\u0131 \u00e7ar\u015f\u0131da, \u00f6nce 2 ay Derici, sonra 2 ay Kuyumcu tezgahtarl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve nihayet son karar\u0131m\u0131 vererek, kuyumcu el sanat\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenmek i\u00e7in Agop Topalo\u011flu\u2019nun at\u00f6lyesinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015flad\u0131m.<\/p>\n

C.B: Ben biraz kronolojik olarak ilerlemek istiyorum. Biraz \u00e7ocuklu\u011funuzdan ba\u015flasak, memleketiniz neresidir? Aileniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O Malatya merkez \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, Salk\u00f6pr\u00fc mahallesi, \u0130smetiye sokak no 27de do\u011fmu\u015fum. Babam\u0131n ikinci e\u015finden olma ortanca \u00e7ocu\u011fuyum. Benden 3 ya\u015f b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ablam, \u00fc\u00e7 ya\u015f da ufak bir k\u0131z karde\u015fim var.\u00a0 Babam\u0131n ilk e\u015finden olma da, iki a\u011fabeyim ve iki de ablam var. a\u011fabeylerimden biri Ni\u015fan Orun\u00f6z, 5\/3\/1936 do\u011fumluydu, 29\/1\/2001 de \u0130zmir\u2019de rahmetli oldu, \u0130zmir\u2019de Ermeni kilisesi kalmad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan, dini t\u00f6renini G\u00fcr \u00e7e\u015fme camiinde icra ederek,\u00a0 Yeni Buca mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131na defnettik. Di\u011fer karde\u015flerin hepsi, D\u00fcnyan\u0131n d\u00f6rt taraf\u0131na da\u011f\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olsalar da\u00a0 hayattad\u0131rlar. Kimi Fransa\u2019da, kimi Almanya\u2019da, Hatay\u2019da olan\u0131 da var, Malatya\u2019da olan da. Hepsi evlidir, kimi Ermeni ile, kimi M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ile. Ne fark eder? Etnik k\u00f6keninin kiminle evli oldu\u011fu demeyin. Anadolu\u2019da bir \u00e7ok s\u00f6z gibi \u201cDavul dengi, dengine\u201d diye de s\u00f6z\u00fc \u00a0bo\u015fa dememi\u015fler. Sevgili Cemile; yukar\u0131da bir c\u00fcmlenin aras\u0131nda, \u201cKaybetmedi\u011fimiz Dostumuz\u201d demi\u015ftin; Hayatta Senin gibi bir de\u011ferli dost da ben tan\u0131m\u0131\u015fsam\u00a0 e\u011fer;\u00a0 ben bu hayata ucuz g\u00f6zle nas\u0131l bakar\u0131m?\u00a0 Meraklanma, ne kaybolurum, ne yar\u0131 yolda b\u0131rak\u0131r\u0131m.<\/p>\n

C.B: Aileniz i\u00e7erisinde 1915 olaylar\u0131 ile ilgili an\u0131lar anlat\u0131l\u0131r m\u0131yd\u0131? Belgelerden uzak, ya\u015fayan a\u011f\u0131zlardan T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olman\u0131n nas\u0131l bir \u015fey oldu\u011funu yada Tehcir\u2019i dinlediniz mi hi\u00e7? <\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O.Ailem ile bir arada olma \u015fans\u0131m sadece yedi ya\u015f\u0131na kadard\u0131. Bu ya\u015fa kadar da 1915 olaylar\u0131 ile bir \u015fey sorma \u015fans\u0131m olmad\u0131.\u00a0 Tehcirden \u00f6nce, babam ile olan bir an\u0131m\u0131 anlatmak isterim. Her \u00e7ocu\u011fun g\u00f6z\u00fcndeki kahraman\u0131 babas\u0131 oldu\u011fu gibi, benimde kahraman\u0131m, babamd\u0131. \u0130lkokulu okumak i\u00e7in Malatya\u2019dan \u0130stanbul\u2019a yolland\u0131ktan \u00fc\u00e7 y\u0131l sonra, bir daha babam\u0131 g\u00f6rme \u015fans\u0131m oldu. 1970 y\u0131l\u0131n\u0131n yaz\u0131nda, Tuzla Kamp Armen\u2019in m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc Hrant G\u00fczelyan taraf\u0131ndan, Malatya\u2019ya babam\u0131n yan\u0131na yolland\u0131m.\u00a0 Baba oca\u011f\u0131nda ilk geceyi, heyecandan olsa gerek, \u00a0zor\u00a0 sabah ettim.\u00a0 Sabah\u0131n ilk \u0131\u015f\u0131klar\u0131yla birlikte babam, \u00e7e\u015fmeye y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fc y\u0131kamak i\u00e7in gitmeye haz\u0131rlan\u0131rken, bende kalkt\u0131m. Babam pe\u015fkirini\u00a0 (havlu) omzuna att\u0131, kap\u0131dan \u00e7\u0131karken ba\u015flad\u0131 \u201cHayr- Mer\u201d diye, Ermenice \u00a0dua etmeye; ben \u0130stanbul\u2019a okumaya gelmeden \u00f6nce de, her sabah bu duay\u0131 s\u00f6ylerdi. Ben anlam\u0131yormu\u015fum. \u0130lk sabah, babamdan daha g\u00fcr bir ses ile ben duay\u0131 s\u00f6ylenmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m, babam sustu, \u00e7e\u015fmede \u00a0elini-y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fc y\u0131kad\u0131, ben duay\u0131 bitirdim, bende y\u0131kand\u0131m, eve d\u00f6nd\u00fck, dizlerinin \u00fcst\u00fcne \u00e7\u00f6ken babam h\u0131\u00e7k\u0131ra-h\u0131\u00e7k\u0131ra\u00a0 a\u011flad\u0131. O zaman ne oldu\u011funu anlayamam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, sonra bir ara, \u201cSara- Sara (Sara beni \u0130stanbul\u2019daki yetimhaneye yollayan kad\u0131n)\u00a0 Allah \u00f6mr\u00fcmden ala sana vere,\u00a0 \u00e7a\u011fam\u0131 (\u00e7ocu\u011fumu)\u00a0 kurtard\u0131n\u201d \u00a0dedi\u011fini duydum.<\/p>\n

Babamdan Soyk\u0131r\u0131m yada Tehcir hakk\u0131nda bir \u015fey duymad\u0131m. Yaln\u0131z bundan iki y\u0131l \u00f6nce, ana taraf\u0131m\u0131 arad\u0131m ve day\u0131lar\u0131m ile teyzemle tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Day\u0131mdan, \u00a0\u00a0Anneannemin s\u0131rt\u0131nda tehcirden kalma iki han\u00e7er yaras\u0131 oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frendim. Zaten\u00a0 o olaydan sonra da, din de\u011fi\u015fip \u0130slam olmu\u015flar, hayatta kalm\u0131\u015flar.\u00a0 Day\u0131m ile iki y\u0131l sadece telefonda konu\u015ftum, seni g\u00f6rmeye geleyim mi? dedi\u011fimde ise; \u201co\u011flum bizler kendimize yeni bir d\u00fcnya kurduk\u00a0 gelme\u201d\u00a0 dedi. Bende 15 A\u011fustos 2009 da haber vermeden gittim, kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na dikildim, day\u0131 ben geldim dedi\u011fimde, h\u0131\u00e7k\u0131rarak a\u011flad\u0131 day\u0131m. Hasret.<\/p>\n

Giderdikten sonra, sohbete oturduk. Day\u0131ma, anam\u0131 sordum. Day\u0131m ise; o\u011flum anan\u0131 nas\u0131l olsa anlat\u0131r\u0131m da, esas benim ya\u015farken i\u00e7ime dert olan\u0131 bir anlatay\u0131m, dedi. Tehcir sonras\u0131 \u0130slamiyet\u2019i se\u00e7mi\u015f olmalar\u0131na ve adlar\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirip de camiye gitmelerine ra\u011fmen, \u015eiro \u00e7ay\u0131nda bo\u011fulan bir day\u0131m oldu\u011fundan bahsetti. Bu day\u0131m\u0131n cenazesini, k\u00f6y\u00fcn camisinden namaz\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131l\u0131p, mezarl\u0131\u011fa defnetmeye g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcrlerken, yollar\u0131n\u0131 eli sopal\u0131 bir tak\u0131m k\u00f6yl\u00fcleri kesip, bu \u201ckefere\u201dyi bizim mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131za g\u00f6memezsiniz, deyip g\u00f6m\u00fclmesini engellemi\u015fler. Dedem, k\u00f6yl\u00fclerin ne demek istediklerini \u00e7ok iyi anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan, yolu de\u011fi\u015ftirip, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n bulundu\u011fu yerin, tam kar\u015f\u0131 tepesine g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp, day\u0131m\u0131 defnetmi\u015fler. \u00a0Bu olaydan tedirgin olan bir k\u0131s\u0131m \u201cd\u00f6nme\u201d M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar, daha sonra\u00a0 k\u00f6y\u00fc terk etmi\u015fler. Dedem ve day\u0131lar\u0131m \u00a0teyzem ile kal\u0131rlar.\u00a0 Bir m\u00fcddet sonra bir d\u00f6nme M\u00fcsl\u00fcman daha rahmetli olur. Camide\u00a0 cenaze namaz\u0131 k\u0131l\u0131n\u0131r,\u00a0 aile yollar\u0131 \u00e7evrilir\u00a0 endi\u015fesiyle, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131na y\u00f6nelmez, do\u011fru day\u0131m\u0131n yan\u0131na g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcrler.\u00a0 K\u0131sa zamanda bu olay al\u0131\u015fkanl\u0131k haline gelir ve d\u00f6nme M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar, cenazelerini d\u00f6nmelerin mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131 diye olu\u015fturulan bu mezarl\u0131\u011fa g\u00f6mmeye ba\u015flarlar.\u00a0 Yakla\u015f\u0131k on be\u015f mezar olu\u015ftuktan sonra ise; bir g\u00fcn muhtar il\u00e7eye kaymakama gider ve olay\u0131 anlat\u0131r, \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm ister. Kaymakam \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc bulur. \u0130\u015fte y\u0131k\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m an; bu haber \u00fczerine devlet karayollar\u0131ndan bir dozer gelip on be\u015fi a\u015fk\u0131n mezar\u0131 darmada\u011f\u0131n eder, buradan yol ge\u00e7ecek der, bir kemik dahi almalar\u0131na m\u00fcsaade etmeden, bir yol uzant\u0131s\u0131 s\u00fcs\u00fc verilir ve aynen \u00f6yle de b\u0131rak\u0131p giderler. 40 senedir o yol ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde yar\u0131m duruyor.
\nBu olaydan sonra camideki ilk cumaya, \u00a0t\u00fcm k\u00f6y halk\u0131 hoparl\u00f6rle davet edilir. Verilen vaaz sonras\u0131nda k\u00f6yde, namaz k\u0131lmayan kimsenin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yler hoca efendi, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla namaz k\u0131lan herkesi ayn\u0131 yere g\u00f6mmek gerekti\u011finden dem vurur.<\/p>\n

O g\u00fcn, bu g\u00fcnd\u00fcr de, k\u00f6yde tek mezarl\u0131k olu\u015fmu\u015ftur.\u00a0 Ya\u015fayan \u00a0\u201dDAYIM\u201d da\u00a0\u00a0 kom\u015fular\u0131 i\u00e7in namaz k\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yler, hocan\u0131n i\u015f i\u00e7in \u015fehre gitti\u011finde de ye\u011fenim\u00a0 \u00a0g\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc olarak \u00a0namaz k\u0131ld\u0131r\u0131r, lakab\u0131 da \u201cGAVUR \u0130MAM\u201dd\u0131r. Mezar\u0131 olmayan biri i\u00e7in;\u00a0 Tehcirmi\u015f, b\u00fcy\u00fck felaketmi\u015f, Soyk\u0131r\u0131mm\u0131\u015f, ad\u0131 \u00f6nemli mi? Anam\u0131n mezar\u0131n\u0131n olmay\u0131\u015f\u0131 vicdan\u0131m\u0131 rahats\u0131z ediyordu. Ben k\u0131rk be\u015f sene sonra anam\u0131n mezar\u0131n\u0131 buldum. O g\u00fcn kadar rahat uyudu\u011fum bir g\u00fcn\u00fc de hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorum.\u00a0 Uykusunda rahat edemeyenler, mezar\u0131 kay\u0131p olan, mezar\u0131 olmayan, bir yak\u0131n\u0131n\u0131z, akraban\u0131z, hatta kom\u015funuz bile varsa; Onun kay\u0131p mezar\u0131n\u0131 bulmaya yard\u0131mc\u0131 olun, aha buras\u0131 onun mezar\u0131d\u0131r deyip, bir dua okuyacak ta\u015f dikin, rahat edin.<\/p>\n

C.B: \u00c7ocuklu\u011funuzun ge\u00e7ti\u011fi yerde Ermeni olman\u0131n a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ya\u015fad\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumun ge\u00e7ti\u011fi yer Tuzla Kamp Armen\u2019di\u00a0 ki; Tuzla\u2019daki arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131n a\u011f\u0131z al\u0131\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan, Ermeni e\u015fittir Gavur laf\u0131ndan hi\u00e7 rahats\u0131zl\u0131k duymad\u0131m.\u00a0 Yaln\u0131z ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k ve rahats\u0131zl\u0131k kelimelerini ya\u015fayarak hissettim. Mesela; bug\u00fcn de beni bir arkada\u015f\u0131na\u00a0 tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131ran,\u00a0 arkada\u015f\u0131m benim Ermeni oldu\u011fumu s\u00f6ylemez. Bu gavur\u2019dur der.\u00a0 \u015eaka oldu\u011funu bilmeme ra\u011fmen, al\u0131n\u0131r\u0131m.\u00a0 Al\u0131nganl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 da belli ederim. Belli etmemin sebebi, bir daha yapmas\u0131n diyedir, ama bilin\u00e7 alt\u0131na \u00f6yle bir yerle\u015fmi\u015f ki; tekrarlan\u0131r her seferinde. Bu \u00f6tekile\u015ftirmenin bir \u00e7e\u015fidinden duydu\u011fum \u00a0rahats\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131m.<\/p>\n

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Ay\u0131r\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131m ise; Dokuz ya\u015f\u0131ndan beri idealim Pilot olmakt\u0131. Ortaokulu bitirdi\u011fimde, Pilot olmak i\u00e7in Hava Harp Okuluna ba\u015fvurdu\u011fumda, t\u00fcm evraklar\u0131m tam olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, kay\u0131t g\u00f6revlisi; \u00a0herkesin ad\u0131n\u0131 t\u00fckenmez kalemle yazarken,\u00a0 benim dosyam\u0131 al\u0131p \u00f6nce bir y\u00fcz\u00fcme bakt\u0131, sonra da kur\u015fun kalemle ad\u0131m\u0131 yazmaya kalkt\u0131. Bende isyan\u0131ma yenik d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm, kay\u0131t yapan askerin\u00a0 elinden\u00a0 kur\u015fun kalemi al\u0131p, benim de ad\u0131m\u0131 t\u00fckenmez ile yaz, sileceksen de sonra karalars\u0131n, dedim. Az sonra bir r\u00fctbeli subay gelip, beni ikna etti.\u00a0 Bir daha hi\u00e7bir devlet memurlu\u011funa ba\u015fvurmamam gerekti\u011fini\u00a0 kibar bir lisanla \u00a0bildirerek, Kamp Armen\u2019e yollanmam\u0131 emretti. Ben de uygulad\u0131m. Ne olursa\u00a0 olsun, \u201cSad\u0131k Vatanda\u015f\u201d\u0131m. Ne ge\u00e7mi\u015fte atalar\u0131m isyan etti, ne de g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde ya\u015fayanlar olarak bizlerin isyan etme gibi bir niyetleri olmad\u0131. Olmaz da. Kuzu gibi yeti\u015ftirildik, koyun gibi g\u00fcd\u00fcl\u00fcr\u00fcz.<\/p>\n

C.B: Peki, Tuzla Yetimhanesi\u2019ne geli\u015finiz, Tuzla Yetimhanesi, arkada\u015f\u0131n\u0131z Hrant desem?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Ke\u015fke demeseydin, desem. Ama bir defa sordun, s\u00f6z ile mermi aras\u0131nda hi\u00e7bir fark yokmu\u015f. Tuzla\u2019ya; 1967den itibaren, (1970 yaz\u0131 hari\u00e7)\u00a0 her yaz gitmi\u015fimdir. Hrant a\u011fabey ile ilkokula gidece\u011fim ilk g\u00fcn,\u00a0 kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z an\u0131 \u00e7ok net hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum ki; okula giderken kap\u0131 \u00f6n\u00fcnde iki\u015ferli s\u0131ra olurduk. Haftan\u0131n n\u00f6bet\u00e7i abisi, Kum kap\u0131\u2019ya\u00a0 yak\u0131n yerde bulunan okula g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp\u00a0 getirmekten sorumlu olurdu.\u00a0 Hrant\u2019\u0131n sesiyle irkildim ve\u00a0 \u201cbenim yontulmam\u0131\u015f Malatyal\u0131m, s\u0131raya ge\u00e7sen de gitsek\u201d ile ba\u015flam\u0131\u015f, vuruldu\u011fu g\u00fcne kadar da a\u011fabey-karde\u015f ili\u015fkimiz s\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc.\u00a0 Hrant i\u00e7in anlatacak-s\u00f6yleyecek \u00e7ok s\u00f6z var, yava\u015f-yava\u015f herkes Onun ne kadar b\u00fcy\u00fck bir sevda ile T\u00fcrkiyeli oldu\u011funu anlayacak, ama bu anlay\u0131\u015f \u00a0Hrant\u2019\u0131 geri getirmeyecek. Bari ba\u015fkalar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6t\u00fcrmesin. Bir ki\u015fi bile olsun, sevgi u\u011fruna \u201c\u00f6lmeyi\u201d g\u00f6ze alabiliyorsa e\u011fer, \u201cinsanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u201d ya\u015fama hakk\u0131 var, demektir.<\/p>\n

C.B: Tuzla Yetimhanesi\u2019nde ne kadar kald\u0131n\u0131z? Oradan ne gerek\u00e7e ile ayr\u0131lmak zorunda kald\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Tuzla Kamp Armen\u2019de\u00a0 sekiz sene kald\u0131m. Kamptan; \u00a0e\u011fitim i\u00e7in Yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131na gitmek \u00fczere ayr\u0131ld\u0131m.\u00a0 \u0130ki y\u0131l sonra Yurda geri d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde de, ilk gitti\u011fim yer yine Kamp Armen oldu. Herkes \u201cTuzla Yetimhanesi\u201d \u00a0diyor,\u00a0 oran\u0131n talebeleri bizler ise; Kamp Armen deriz. Oras\u0131 bizim evimizdi, hayata dair her \u015feyi biz orada \u00f6\u011frendik. \u00a0Her ne kadar aram\u0131zda Yetimler ve \u00f6ks\u00fczler olsa da, aile eksikli\u011fini\u00a0 hissetmedik ve hissettirmedik. Bu; Kamp Armen\u2019in\u00a0 bir gelene\u011fiydi.<\/p>\n

C.B: Tuzla Yetimhanesi\u2019nin \u015fu an ki durumu nedir? Size ait ancak sizden al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f bu mekan ile ilgili yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Tuzla Kamp Armen\u2019in durumu \u015fu an \u201cat\u0131l\u201d vaziyettedir. Kap\u0131s\u0131, penceresi yok, k\u00f6r bir insana benziyor. \u0130\u00e7inde bar\u0131nd\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7ocuklar\u0131ndan uzakla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131. Lal olmu\u015f \u00e7ocuk gibi, konu\u015fam\u0131yor.\u00a0 Bizim de\u011fil ki; gidip de bakal\u0131m. G\u00fczelim \u00e7am a\u011fa\u00e7lar\u0131, Elma Armut, Erik, \u0130ncir, Ayva, Ceviz\u00a0 \u015eeftali a\u011fa\u00e7lar\u0131m\u0131z vard\u0131. Bunlardan bir tane bile kalmam\u0131\u015f. \u00a0Son olarak 25 Nisan 2010 da\u00a0 55 ki\u015fi gittik, emeklerimizin nas\u0131l ziyan edildi\u011fini izleyip, a\u011fla\u015ft\u0131k.\u00a0 Bu\u00a0 bina da; \u00a0bir\u00a0 Milli Servettir, yaz\u0131kt\u0131r,\u00a0 g\u00fcnaht\u0131r, kaderine terk edilmesin, Devletimizden bir ricam olacak; \u0130nsanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n ve Halklar\u0131n karde\u015fli\u011fine inanc\u0131 ve de YET\u0130M eme\u011fine ve hakk\u0131na sayg\u0131s\u0131 varsa,\u00a0 ahrete inan\u0131yorsa, haram\u0131n ne demek oldu\u011funu biliyorsa,\u00a0 bu ADALETS\u0130Z el koyman\u0131n\u00a0 giderilmesi y\u00f6n\u00fcnde bir ad\u0131m ats\u0131n,\u00a0 TC vatanda\u015f\u0131\u00a0 olarak talep ve rica ediyorum. Kom\u015fu; kom\u015fusunu \u201cdostluk\u201d adl\u0131 sokakta \u00f6ld\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015f. E\u011fer; her iki halk da dost ise; bu Tuzla Kamp\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 \u201cEl Birli\u011fi\u201d ile tekrar ya\u015fama d\u00f6nd\u00fcrmenin ve dostluklar\u0131n ye\u015fermesinin bir yolunu mutlaka bulman\u0131n bir yolu olmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u00a0Tuzla Kamp\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in, sponsor bulabilirsem,\u00a0 bu y\u0131l sonuna yeti\u015ftirilmesi \u015fart olan, bir k\u0131sa\u00a0 kurgu film projem var. Bunun i\u00e7in; bas\u0131nda \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f bir haberi de tekrar payla\u015fmakta fayda var.<\/p>\n

\u201d Bir s\u00fcre \u00f6nce T\u00fcrkiye ile Ermenistan aras\u0131nda ba\u015flayan tarihi yak\u0131nla\u015fma, beyaz perdeye de yans\u0131d\u0131.<\/p>\n

Anadolu K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Uluslararas\u0131 Alt\u0131n Kay\u0131s\u0131 Film Festivali \u00f6nc\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde 2008 y\u0131l\u0131nda ba\u015flat\u0131lan, ge\u00e7en sene \u201cErmenistan-T\u00fcrkiye Sinema Platformu\u201d ad\u0131n\u0131 alan giri\u015fim, ilk meyvelerini vermeye haz\u0131rlan\u0131yor. Bu kapsamda, T\u00fcrkiye ve Ermenistan\u2019dan bir \u00e7ok ba\u015fvuru aras\u0131ndan se\u00e7ilen 10 sinemac\u0131, 8-10 Nisan 2010 tarihleri aras\u0131nda \u0130stanbul\u2019da bir araya geldi. Ermenistan-T\u00fcrkiye Sinema Platformu\u2019nun 5. bulu\u015fmas\u0131nda, toplam 5 proje destek ald\u0131. Se\u00e7ici kurulunda Melek Ulagay, Nurdan Arca, S\u0131rr\u0131 S\u00fcreyya \u00d6nder, Sevil Demirci, \u00c7i\u011fdem Mater ve Uluslararas\u0131 Alt\u0131n Kay\u0131s\u0131 Film Festivali \u201cDirectors Across Borders\u201d direkt\u00f6r\u00fc Artsvi Bakhchinyan\u2019\u0131n yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 platform toplant\u0131s\u0131nda, iki \u00fclkeden toplam 10 proje de\u011ferlendirildi.<\/p>\n

KAYBOLMAYIN \u00c7OCUKLAR<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130ngiltere merkezli Global Dialogue taraf\u0131ndan desteklenen toplant\u0131da, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den; G\u00fcleng\u00fcl Alt\u0131nta\u015f ve Garabet Orun\u00f6z\u2019\u00fcn \u201cKaybolmay\u0131n \u00c7ocuklar!\u201d, \u00a0Meryem Yavuz ve M. Cem \u00d6zt\u00fcfek\u00e7i\u2019nin \u201cAgop\u2019tan \u015e\u00fckr\u00fc\u2019ye Selam Var\u201d, Ermenistan\u2019dan Diana Kardumyan\u2019\u0131n \u201cGalata\u201d, Arthur Sukiasyan\u2019\u0131n \u201cG\u00fcvercin Ustalar\u0131\u201d ve Gor Baghdasaryan\u2019\u0131n \u201cKom\u015fular\u201d adl\u0131 projelerine platform kapsam\u0131nda destek verilmesi kararla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131.\u201d<\/p>\n

Bu k\u0131sa film haricinde ise; Kamp\u0131m\u0131zdan su i\u00e7mi\u015f, ekme\u011fini yemi\u015f, bir a\u011fa\u00e7 dikmi\u015f, ta\u015f \u00fcst\u00fcne ta\u015f koymu\u015f olanlardan, D\u00fcnyan\u0131n d\u00f6rt bir taraf\u0131na da\u011f\u0131lm\u0131\u015flar\u0131n hikayelerini ve an\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 toplay\u0131p, eski resimleriyle birlikte bir kitap yay\u0131nlamak var. \u00d6m\u00fcr yeterse;\u00a0 ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015fl\u0131klar\u0131n tamam\u0131n\u0131 yazmak isterim.<\/p>\n

C.B: Sonraki d\u00f6nem, mesela askerlik yapt\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131? Hatta bir Ermeni\u2019nin bir askerlik an\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 dinlemek istesem?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Bende bu \u00fclkenin evlad\u0131y\u0131m, her ne kadar \u00f6tekile\u015ftirilmeye zorlansam da, kendimi \u00f6teki g\u00f6rmedim. Askerlikte yapt\u0131m, Sar\u0131kam\u0131\u015f Da\u011f taburunda Kursa da gittim, ba\u015far\u0131 belgesi de ald\u0131m. (kurs belgesini attach ile yollayaca\u011f\u0131m)<\/p>\n

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Askerlik d\u00f6nemim de 12 Eyl\u00fcl ihtilali de oldu. Da\u011flara da yolland\u0131m, yollarda da n\u00f6bet tuttum, verilen vazife ne olduysa yapt\u0131m. Alayda benim Ermeni oldu\u011fumu bilmeyen yoktu.\u00a0\u00a0 Bu arada ilgin\u00e7 olaylar da ya\u015fad\u0131m. Bir g\u00fcn, n\u00f6bet\u00e7i subay\u0131 i\u00e7timada toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131 alaya \u015f\u00f6yle seslendi; arkada\u015flar, yine Ermeni Asala militanlar\u0131 bir konsolosumuzu vurmu\u015f.\u00a0 Aram\u0131zda Ermeni arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z var. Olmaya ki; biriniz Onlardan herhangi birini rahats\u0131z edesiniz. Onlar da sizler gibi Vatani g\u00f6revlerini yapmaya gelmi\u015f vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131zd\u0131r.\u00a0 \u0130\u015fte bu s\u00f6zlerden sonra; etraf\u0131ma toplanan arkada\u015flar\u0131m, sorular sormaya ba\u015flad\u0131lar. Yahu Garabet, bu Sizinkiler Bizimkileri niye vuruyorlar? Hadi gel de \u00e7\u0131k i\u015fin i\u00e7inden. Sizinkiler- Bizimkiler ay\u0131r\u0131m ba\u015ftan ba\u015flam\u0131\u015f oldu.\u00a0 Muhabbete oturaca\u011f\u0131z\u00a0 diye!\u00a0 Bedava tarih dersi yok hele bir demlik \u00e7ay s\u00f6yleyin ki anlatay\u0131m, dedim. Masan\u0131n etraf\u0131na topland\u0131k, \u00e7aylar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 da doldurduk, kimseyi \u00fczmeden, beni en iyi anlayabilecek ki\u015finin g\u00f6zlerinin de i\u00e7ine bakarak, hani 1915 y\u0131llar\u0131nda\u00a0 Senin deden benim dedem ile kap\u0131 kom\u015fuyken,\u00a0 bir gece aniden gelen emirle kad\u0131n-erkek, \u00e7oluk-\u00e7ocuk,\u00a0 toplay\u0131p g\u00f6t\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015fler de, bir daha geri gelmemi\u015fler ya! Derken, az ilerimizde duran bir Mu\u015flu arkada\u015f\u0131n dikkatle bizi dinledi\u011fini fark ettim. Mu\u015flu ula sende yan\u0131m\u0131za gelsene deyip, tamda yan\u0131ma ald\u0131m. Bir de tembihledim, ula Mu\u015flu k\u00fcf\u00fcr etmeyesin bak ben Ermeni\u2019yim dedim. >Mu\u015flu;\u00a0 ha\u015fa de a\u011fabey yahu, sen hi\u00e7 Ermeni olabilir misin? Bak senin de benim gibi etin var, kemi\u011fin var dedi. <Bende; Mu\u015flu senin bildi\u011fin Ermeni nas\u0131ld\u0131r? Diye sordum, gayet ciddi bir tav\u0131rla, Ermeni boynuzludur, dedi. \u015eimdi; \u00a020 ya\u015f\u0131na gelmi\u015f, Ermeni\u2019nin boynuzlu oldu\u011funa inanm\u0131\u015f birini yalanc\u0131 m\u0131? \u00e7\u0131karayd\u0131m. Ona \u00f6yle \u00f6\u011fretilmi\u015f ne yaps\u0131n. Benim de vard\u0131 askere gelirken kestirdim, deyince, aya\u011fa kalkt\u0131 hemen kafamdan kepimi ald\u0131, sa\u00e7lar\u0131m\u0131n aras\u0131ndan kesik boynuz izini aramaya ba\u015flad\u0131.\u00a0 Bu seferde bo\u015funa arama estetik yapt\u0131rd\u0131m. O nedir?\u00a0 diyecek oldu, ben sana sonra anlat\u0131r\u0131m, dedim. Sonra ahbap olduk, kendisine Ermeni\u2019nin boynuzlu oldu\u011funu kimin \u00f6\u011fretti\u011fini sordum, okula hi\u00e7 gitmemi\u015fti, hoca dedi. Hoca diye k\u00f6y\u00fcn imam\u0131ndan bahsediyordu. Hocan\u0131n babas\u0131n\u0131n ad\u0131n\u0131 sordum, Abdullah\u2019m\u0131\u015f, dedesinin ad\u0131n\u0131 biliyor musun? Dedim, He\u00e7ik\u00a0 (Ha\u00e7ik= Ermeni ismidir) dedi. \u015eimdi ben ne diyeyim, \u201cYar\u0131m doktor candan, yar\u0131m hoca da \u0130mandan eder\u201d demi\u015flerse bo\u015fa dememi\u015fler. Okumu\u015fuyla okumam\u0131\u015f\u0131 aras\u0131nda da\u00a0 bir \u015fey fark ettim. Askerlikten 28 sene sonra, \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni Olmak\u201d\u00a0 adl\u0131 bir s\u00f6yle\u015fiye dinleyici olarak gittim. \u0130ki profes\u00f6r, konu\u015ftular, anlatt\u0131lar, soru-cevap k\u0131sm\u0131nda bir \u015fey sormak i\u00e7in korkak talebelere benzer, parmak kald\u0131r\u0131p durdum, profes\u00f6r\u00fcn erkek olan\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fc. Buyurun deyince; aram\u0131zda hi\u00e7 Ermeni var m\u0131? diye sordum. 150 kadar ki\u015finin i\u00e7inde bir tek ki\u015fi bile ses \u00e7\u0131karmad\u0131. Ne yapt\u0131n\u0131z? T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir tane bile Ermeni bulamad\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131? ki kendi-kendinize T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olmay\u0131 s\u00f6yle\u015fiyorsunuz?\u00a0 Dedikten sonra, biliyor musunuz?\u00a0 Ben Ermeni\u2019yim\u00a0 dedim.\u00a0\u00a0 Sonra da, profes\u00f6rlerden\u00a0 bir\u00a0 \u015fikayetim\u00a0 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, s\u00f6yledim ve \u201c\u0130\u015flerinin \u0130nsan e\u011fitmek\u201d oldu\u011funu, ama \u201c\u0130yi E\u011fitemediklerinden\u201d\u00a0 bir insan\u0131n, bir ba\u015fka insan i\u00e7in boynuzlu olabilece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnen, Mu\u015fluyu anlatt\u0131m. Profes\u00f6rlerden erkek olan\u0131; Garabet hocam; akl\u0131nla bin ya\u015fa, bende K\u00fcrt as\u0131ll\u0131y\u0131m, benim i\u00e7in de kuyruklu diyorlar. Bundan sonra bende senin yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n gibi yap\u0131p,\u00a0 kuyru\u011fu kestirdim diyece\u011fim dedi ki; aman hocam, hi\u00e7bir yerde s\u00f6ylemeyin dedim. Niye diye sordu koca profes\u00f6r?\u00a0 Ben boynuzlar\u0131 kestirdim deyince; Mu\u015flu kepimi al\u0131p kafam\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131, hocam Siz kuyru\u011fu kestirdim deseniz, demem ile salon kahkahayla y\u0131k\u0131ld\u0131. \u00a0Bu an\u0131lar\u0131m; biri askerden, devam\u0131 sivildendi, biri okumam\u0131\u015f, di\u011feri de e\u011fitmemi\u015f bir e\u011fitmendendi.<\/p>\n

C.B: Hi\u00e7 Ermeni oldu\u011funuzu saklamak zorunda kald\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131? Ya da aileniz b\u00f6yle bir zorunluluk ya\u015fad\u0131 m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Ben \u015fahs\u0131m olarak asla kimli\u011fimden dolay\u0131 utanmad\u0131m ki, asl\u0131m\u0131 inkar edip de gizleme ihtiyac\u0131 duyay\u0131m. Saklamad\u0131m,\u00a0\u00a0 saklanmad\u0131m. Ailemden saklayan\u00a0 var. Hatta bir i\u015f i\u00e7in bir dostum beni\u00a0 tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131raca\u011f\u0131 ki\u015finin,\u00a0 be\u015f vakit namaz k\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla da bir gayrim\u00fcslim ile i\u015f yapmak istemeyebilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Senin ad\u0131n\u0131 Galip olarak s\u00f6yledim, sende a\u00e7\u0131k etme i\u015fine bak dedi, tan\u0131\u015fmaya ve ilk i\u015fimizi almaya gittik. \u0130stanbul Maltepe\u2019ye gidecektik, gittik. Ma\u011fazadan i\u00e7eri girince, selamla\u015ft\u0131m ve kendimi tan\u0131tt\u0131m. Ben Garabet, Ermeni\u2019yim dedim, arkada\u015f\u0131m k\u0131zard\u0131 ve terledi. Ma\u011faza sahibi \u00e7ok memnun oldu\u011funu, iyi ustalar\u0131n Ermeni oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi, \u00e7ay\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 i\u00e7tik, sipari\u015fimizi ald\u0131k \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131k. \u0130kinci i\u015fimizi de yapt\u0131ktan sonra,\u00a0 ne hesab\u0131m\u0131 alabildim, ne de hakk\u0131nda \u015fikayet\u00e7i olabildim. Allah\u2019a havale ettim, eme\u011fimi HELAL etmedim\u00a0 \u015fimdilik, sonra eder miyim?\u00a0 bilmiyorum. Benim kendisinden daha fazla ihtiyac\u0131m oldu\u011fundan dolay\u0131 etmem. Bu adam\u00a0 al\u0131n terine\u00a0 sayg\u0131y\u0131\u00a0\u00a0 bilse, eme\u011fimi gasp etmezdi. Gavur\u2019un eme\u011fini de mal\u0131n\u0131 da gasp etmek, ona \u201chelal\u201d diye \u00f6\u011fretilmi\u015f.\u00a0 \u0130nsan\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu; ganimet k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcnden ne zaman kurtulacak ve \u00fcretip, yarat\u0131p, yeti\u015ftirirse, haram ile helalin de ne demek oldu\u011funun k\u0131ymetini bilecek.\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0Mesela benim Hristiyan oldu\u011fu halde, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ismi verilmi\u015f, hem Ermeni oldu\u011funu hem de Hristiyan oldu\u011funu gizlemek zorunda kalm\u0131\u015f tan\u0131d\u0131klar\u0131m var.<\/p>\n

C:B: Benim bir T\u00fcrk olarak, sadece dinledi\u011fim Ermenice bir \u015fark\u0131dan dolay\u0131 yedi\u011fim azar\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrsek acaba sizin i\u00e7in Ermeni olarak T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015famak nas\u0131l bir\u015fey?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O.Bunun i\u00e7in bir dostum \u00e7ok g\u00fczel bir yaz\u0131 yazm\u0131\u015f, aynen sana da yolluyorum.<\/p>\n

De\u011fi\u015fik\u00a0 bir\u00a0 duygudur\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak\u2026<\/p>\n

Her\u00a0 ne\u00a0 kadar\u00a0 da\u00a0 Hrant\u00a0 Dink\u00a0 s\u00f6zde\u00a0 suikastinin ard\u0131ndan\u00a0 binlerce\u00a0 ki\u015fi ;\u00a0 \u201cHepimiz\u00a0 Hrant\u0131z,\u00a0 hepimiz Ermeniyiz\u201d\u00a0 diye\u00a0 ba\u011f\u0131rsa\u00a0 da\u2026 Bir\u00a0 \u00e7ok\u00a0 kesim,\u00a0 asl\u0131nda \u201chepimiz\u00a0 insan\u0131z\u201d\u00a0 manas\u0131na\u00a0 gelen bu\u00a0 slogan\u0131 anlamay\u0131p,\u00a0 i\u015fi\u00a0 ba\u015fka\u00a0 boyutlara\u00a0 vursa\u00a0 da\u2026\u00a0 De\u011fi\u015fik\u00a0 bir\u00a0 duygudur\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak\u2026 \u00d6yle\u00a0 ba\u011f\u0131rmakla\u00a0 da\u00a0 olacak\u00a0 bir\u00a0 \u015fey\u00a0 de\u011fildir\u00a0 asl\u0131nda\u2026 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 bilen\u00a0 dostlar\u0131n\u0131n\u00a0 sana \u201cne olur\u00a0 bir topik\u00a0 yap da\u00a0 yiyelim\u201d\u00a0 diyebilmesidir. Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 bir i\u015flem\u00a0 i\u00e7in\u00a0 devlet\u00a0 dairesine\u00a0 gidip\u00a0 de ad\u0131n\u0131\u00a0 s\u00f6yledi\u011finde\u00a0 memurun\u00a0 y\u00fcz\u00fcne\u00a0 tuhaf\u00a0 tuhaf bakmas\u0131d\u0131r,\u00a0 hatta\u00a0 \u201csen\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 misin?\u201d\u00a0 diye\u00a0 sorarken y\u00fcz\u00fcne\u00a0 alayc\u0131\u00a0 alayc\u0131\u00a0 bakmas\u0131d\u0131r\u2026 \u0130sminin\u00a0 her\u00a0 yerde yanl\u0131\u015f\u00a0 yaz\u0131lmas\u0131d\u0131r.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 askerdeyken arkada\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n\u00a0 sana,\u00a0 ne\u00a0 olur\u00a0 bir kere\u00a0 kelime-i\u00a0 \u015faadet getir\u00a0 demesidir\u2026 Yine de\u00a0 k\u0131z kulesine\u00a0 a\u015f\u0131k\u00a0 olmakt\u0131r. Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 galata\u00a0 kulesinden\u00a0 \u0130stanbul\u2019u seyrederken\u00a0 derin\u00a0 duygulara\u00a0 dalmakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 okullar\u0131n\u0131n\u00a0 tarih kitaplar\u0131ndaki\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 kar\u015f\u0131t\u0131\u00a0 yaz\u0131lar\u0131\u00a0 okuyup\u00a0 gelip bunlar\u00a0 ne\u00a0 diye\u00a0 size\u00a0 sordu\u011funda\u00a0 \u00e7ocu\u011funuz,\u00a0 verecek yan\u0131t\u00a0 bulamamakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 seni\u00a0 tan\u0131yan\u00a0 birinin \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc\u00a0 bir\u00a0 \u015fah\u0131sa\u00a0 senden\u00a0 bahsederken.\u00a0 \u201cErmeni\u00a0 bir arkada\u015f\u201d\u00a0 dedikten\u00a0 sonra\u00a0 \u201cama\u00a0 iyi\u00a0 \u00e7ocuktur\u00a0 ger\u00e7ekten\u201d\u00a0 diye\u00a0 bahsetmesidir\u2026\u00a0 Yine\u00a0 de\u00a0 bal\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u00a0 oldu\u011fu,\u00a0\u00a0 rak\u0131n\u0131n oldu\u011fu,\u00a0 midya\u00a0 dolmas\u0131n\u0131n\u00a0 oldu\u011fu\u00a0 bir\u00a0 sofrada\u00a0 T\u00fcrk\u00a0 Sanat\u00a0 Musikisi\u00a0 e\u015fli\u011finde\u00a0 sevgiyle\u00a0 \u015fark\u0131lar s\u00f6ylemektir\u2026 Yine\u00a0 de\u00a0 baz\u0131\u00a0 durumlarda\u00a0 baz\u0131\u00a0 arkada\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n\u00a0 seni arayarak\u00a0 \u201c\u00fcz\u00fclme,\u00a0 onlar\u00a0 cahil\u00a0 biz\u00a0 seni\u00a0 tan\u0131yoruz seviyoruz\u201d\u00a0 c\u00fcmleleri\u00a0 kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda\u00a0 duygulanmakt\u0131r \u2026 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak\u2026 Birisi\u00a0 ile\u00a0 tan\u0131\u015f\u0131rken ismini\u00a0 \u00e7ekinerek\u00a0 s\u00f6ylemektir\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak, s\u00f6yledi\u011finde\u00a0 ise\u00a0 kar\u015f\u0131ndakinin\u00a0 y\u00fcz\u00a0 ifadesinden,\u00a0 neler d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc\u00a0 anlamaya\u00a0 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma\u00a0 al\u0131\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131d\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Bakanlar\u0131n\u00a0 televizyonda\u00a0 ter\u00f6rist\u00a0 ba\u015flar\u0131\u00a0 i\u00e7in\u00a0 \u201cErmeni d\u00f6l\u00fc\u201d\u00a0 laf\u0131n\u0131\u00a0 kullan\u0131rken\u00a0 \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n\u00a0 bunlar\u0131\u00a0 duymas\u0131\u00a0 halinde\u00a0 bunu\u00a0 nas\u0131l\u00a0 a\u00e7\u0131klayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131\u00a0 kara\u00a0 kara d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmektir\u2026 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 Fransa\u2019da\u00a0 \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f yasalar\u00a0 hakk\u0131nda\u00a0 birilerinin\u00a0 \u00f6zellikle\u00a0 gelip\u00a0 sana\u00a0 \u201cne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsun?\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 diye\u00a0 sormas\u0131d\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Ve\u00a0 verece\u011finiz cevab\u0131n\u00a0 ba\u015f\u0131na\u00a0 \u201cs\u00f6zde\u201d\u00a0 kelimesini\u00a0 koymak\u00a0 zorunda olu\u015funuzdur\u2026 \u00c7\u00f6p\u00e7\u00fc\u00a0 olamamakt\u0131r,\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni olmak,\u00a0 devlet\u00a0 memuru\u00a0 olamamakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Yine\u00a0 de\u00a0 vapura bindi\u011finizde\u00a0 mart\u0131lara\u00a0 simit\u00a0 atarken\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi\u00a0 ne\u00a0 \u00e7ok sevdi\u011finizi\u00a0 hat\u0131rlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131zd\u0131r\u2026\u00a0T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak,\u00a0 okullar\u0131n\u0131za yerle\u015ftirilen\u00a0 ve\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 as\u0131ll\u0131\u00a0 olmayan\u00a0 \u00f6\u011fretmenlerinize,\u00a0 b\u00fcy\u00fck\u00a0 birilerinin ;\u00a0 \u201caman\u00a0 ha\u00a0 siz bizim\u00a0 g\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00a0 kula\u011f\u0131m\u0131zs\u0131n\u0131z\u00a0 ona\u00a0 g\u00f6re\u2026\u201d\u00a0 demesidir\u2026 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de,\u00a0 ilerde\u00a0 vali,\u00a0 bakan, pilot\u00a0 olmay\u0131\u00a0 hayal\u00a0 eden \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131za,\u00a0 onlar\u0131\u00a0 k\u0131rmadan\u00a0 ve\u00a0 durumu\u00a0 tam a\u00e7\u0131klamadan\u00a0 ba\u015fka\u00a0 bir\u00a0 meslek\u00a0 se\u00e7mesi\u00a0 konusunda tavsiyelerde\u00a0 bulunarak\u00a0 cayd\u0131rmaya\u00a0 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmakt\u0131r\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u2026, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak\u00a0, T\u00fcrk\u00a0 oldu\u011funuz halde,\u00a0 t\u0131pk\u0131\u00a0 Almanya\u2019daki\u00a0 T\u00fcrklerin,\u00a0 polis,\u00a0 memur, vekil\u00a0 olabildi\u011fi\u00a0 gibi\u00a0 olamamakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Subay olamamakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Yine\u00a0 de,\u00a0 i\u015fkembe\u00a0 \u00e7orbas\u0131n\u0131\u00a0 i\u00e7mek, Hababam\u00a0 S\u0131n\u0131f\u0131\u2019n\u0131\u00a0 izlemek,\u00a0 \u00e7i\u011f\u00a0 k\u00f6fteyi\u00a0 sevmektir Ermeni\u00a0 olmak\u2026\u00a0 D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebilmektir,\u00a0 \u00fcretebilmektir, yaratabilmek ve sanatkar\u00a0 olmakt\u0131r\u2026 Her\u00a0 ba\u015fka\u00a0 bir\u00a0 \u00fclkeye\u00a0 g\u00f6\u00e7\u00a0 fikri geldi\u011finde,\u00a0 buray\u0131\u00a0 \u00e7ok\u00a0 sevdi\u011fini\u00a0 hat\u0131rlamakt\u0131r\u2026 G\u00fcvercin\u00a0 gibi\u00a0 \u00fcrkek\u00a0 olmakt\u0131r\u2026 Yine\u00a0 de,\u00a0 her\u00a0 sabah okulda\u00a0 gururla\u00a0 \u0130stiklal\u00a0 Mar\u015f\u0131n\u0131\u00a0 okumak,\u00a0 Ne\u00a0 Mutlu T\u00fcrk\u00fcm\u00a0 diye\u00a0 ba\u011f\u0131rmakt\u0131r.\u00a0 S\u00f6z\u00a0 sahibi\u00a0 olamayaca\u011f\u0131\u00a0 bir T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin\u00a0 Mutlu\u00a0 T\u00fcrk\u00fc\u00a0 oldu\u011funu\u00a0 hayk\u0131rmakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Ne\u00a0 zaman\u00a0 bu\u00a0 \u00fclkede\u00a0 bir\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 as\u0131ll\u0131\u00a0 T\u00fcrk, devlet\u00a0 memuru,\u00a0 subay\u00a0 olur\u00a0 i\u015fte\u00a0 o\u00a0 zaman\u00a0 anlar\u0131m\u00a0 ki beni\u00a0 T\u00fcrk\u00a0 yerine\u00a0 koyuyorlar\u00a0 demektir\u2026 Bu\u00a0 besleme durumunu,\u00a0 Edip\u00a0 Akbayram\u2019\u0131n\u00a0 ald\u0131rma\u00a0 g\u00f6n\u00fcl\u00a0 t\u00fcrk\u00fcs\u00fc ile unutmakt\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Bir\u00a0 yerde\u00a0 oturdu\u011funda\u00a0 \u201cSar\u0131\u00a0 Gelin\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 t\u00fcrk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00a0 Ermenicesini\u00a0 s\u00f6yledi\u011finde\u00a0 birilerinin \u00fcst\u00fcne\u00a0 sald\u0131rmas\u0131d\u0131r\u2026\u00a0 Olsun\u00a0 ne\u00a0 yapal\u0131m\u00a0 deyip, T\u00fcrk\u00e7esini\u00a0 s\u00f6ylemektir\u2026 Bazen\u00a0 de,\u00a0 delik\u00a0 bir\u00a0 ayakkab\u0131\u00a0 ile\u00a0 yere uzanmakt\u0131r,\u00a0 fikirlerini\u00a0 sonsuzlu\u011fa\u00a0 kavu\u015fturarak \u2026 Binlerce\u00a0 ki\u015fiye\u00a0 \u201cSar\u0131 Gelin\u201d\u00a0\u00a0 t\u00fcrk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00a0 Ermenicesini \u00f6\u011freterek\u2026<\/p>\n

S\u00f6z\u00fcn \u00f6z\u00fc\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00d6yle\u00a0 kolay\u00a0 de\u011fildir\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de\u00a0 Ermeni\u00a0 olmak\u2026<\/p>\n

Yine\u00a0 de\u00a0 g\u00fczeldir,\u00a0 g\u00fczel\u00a0 oldu\u011fu\u00a0 kadar\u00a0 da de\u011fi\u015fik\u2026<\/p>\n

Bir a\u015fkt\u0131r T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olmak\u2026<\/p>\n

\u201c\u0130\u015fine\u00a0 gelmiyorsa\u00a0 \u00e7ek\u00a0 git\u00a0 karde\u015fim\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n

diyenler<\/p>\n

\u201cBuras\u0131\u00a0 benim de \u00fclkem\u201d<\/p>\n

diyebilmektir\u2026<\/p>\n

\u015fimdi bu yaz\u0131n\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcne iki sat\u0131r bir \u015fey eklemem do\u011fru olur mu? <\/span><\/p>\n

C.B: Hrant Dink\u2019ten sonra bu \u00fclkeye bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131z de\u011fi\u015fti mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n de\u011fi\u015fmesi bakmaya ba\u011fl\u0131.\u00a0 Benim bak\u0131\u015f\u0131m olumlu y\u00f6nde de\u011fi\u015fti. Bundan On be\u015f sene \u00f6nce hi\u00e7bir\u00a0 konu hakk\u0131nda konu\u015famazd\u0131n. \u015eimdi ise; Taksim Meydan\u0131nda 24 Nisan\u2019\u0131 sessiz de olsa anmak i\u00e7in toplanabiliyorsun. Seni dinleyenler var, ge\u00e7mi\u015fi sorgulayanlar var, bunlar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcnce ve ya\u015fay\u0131nca, insan\u0131n bak\u0131\u015f\u0131 olumlu y\u00f6nde nas\u0131l de\u011fi\u015fmesin.<\/p>\n

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C.B: Bug\u00fcne geldi\u011fimizde, g\u00fcndemi 1915 Tehciri me\u015fgul ederken, bir Ermeni olarak bu tarihsel ac\u0131ya d\u00fc\u015f\u00fclen yorumlar\u0131 nas\u0131l yorumluyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Yorumlardan \u00e7ok davran\u0131\u015flara bakar\u0131m.\u00a0 D\u00fcn ile bug\u00fcn \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 bir Ermeni atas\u00f6z\u00fc ile\u00a0 anlatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fay\u0131m .\u201dK\u0131zg\u0131n demir par\u00e7as\u0131,\u00a0 ili\u015fkilerini yak\u0131ndan g\u00f6rmek amac\u0131yla; \u00e7eki\u00e7 ve \u00f6rs\u00fcn aras\u0131na girmi\u015f, a\u011fz\u0131 d\u00fcmd\u00fcz olmu\u015f\u201d\u2026\u00a0 Neyimize bizim; Frans\u0131z\u2019\u0131n, Amerikal\u0131n\u0131n, \u0130ngiliz yada herhangi bir yabanc\u0131n\u0131n tavsiyeleri. Bizler; niye \u201ck\u0131zg\u0131nla\u015fm\u0131\u015f demir gibi\u201d,\u00a0 \u00f6rs ile \u00e7eki\u00e7\u2019in aras\u0131na giriyoruz. Konu\u015fmay\u0131 bilmiyor muyuz?\u00a0 Ac\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 bildikten sonra; birbirimizin\u00a0 yaras\u0131n\u0131n da nas\u0131l sa\u011falaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliriz. Yeter ki; konu\u015fma cesaretimizi cihan\u0131 aleme\u00a0 cesurca ve yalans\u0131z\u00a0 g\u00f6sterelim.<\/p>\n

C.B: Hi\u00e7 Ermenistan\u2019a gitmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcn\u00fcz m\u00fc?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Hay\u0131r, Ermenistan\u2019a hi\u00e7 gitmedim, gitmeyi \u00e7ok istiyorum, ama gezmeye, asla yerle\u015fmeye de\u011fil.<\/p>\n

C.B: D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcyseniz, neden? D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmediyseniz, neden?<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Malatya\u2019da do\u011fmu\u015fum, anam\u0131n mezar\u0131, babam\u0131n mezar\u0131, Malatya\u2019dad\u0131r. Dedemin ve ninemin mezarlar\u0131 yoktur. Atalar\u0131m terk edip de bir yerlere gitmemi\u015fler, ben niye gideyim?\u00a0 \u00dc\u00e7 g\u00fcnl\u00fck \u00f6mr\u00fcm\u00fczde, bir g\u00fcn fazla ya\u015fay\u0131p da ne olaca\u011f\u0131z ki; bir g\u00fcn eksik ya\u015fayay\u0131m, ama istedi\u011fim yerde ya\u015fayay\u0131m. 1989 y\u0131l\u0131nda Almanya\u2019ya gittim, oradaki m\u00fclteciler kamp\u0131n\u0131n sorumlusunun k\u0131z\u0131na bir bilezik yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m.\u00a0 K\u0131z babas\u0131yla bilezi\u011fini almaya geldi\u011finde, babas\u0131 bunun benim mi? yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 sordu, evet dedi\u011fimde, \u201cSizin gibi ustan\u0131n\u201d Almanya\u2019da \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 laz\u0131m, dedi. Kibarca te\u015fekk\u00fcr edip, gelmeyece\u011fimi s\u00f6yledim. Neden? Diye sorunca, e\u015fim, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir imalathanem oldu\u011funu, burada gelece\u011fin \u00a0ustalar\u0131n\u0131 yeti\u015ftirmekten keyif\u00a0 ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla gelemeyece\u011fimi s\u00f6yledi\u011fimde, \u0131srar ederek, bir haftada e\u015finizi ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 buraya getirttirebiliriz,\u00a0 dedi.\u00a0 Sizin gibi ustalar\u0131n Almanya\u2019da \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 laz\u0131m deyince de dayanamad\u0131m ve \u201cAlmanya\u2019y\u0131 bana ba\u011f\u0131\u015flasan\u0131z\u201d gelmeyece\u011fim dedim. Pi\u015fman de\u011filim.\u00a0 \u015eimdi hi\u00e7bir yere gitmeyece\u011fimi \u00a0anlatabildi\u011fimi san\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

C.B: Bize verdi\u011finiz samimi cevaplardan dolay\u0131 \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederiz. \u0130yi ki vars\u0131n\u0131z, hep var olun l\u00fctfen.<\/strong><\/p>\n

G.O. Ben de Size \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim, kendim ve ait oldu\u011fum toplumum hakk\u0131nda fikirlerimi ifade etme olana\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bana sundu\u011funuz i\u00e7in, sa\u011folun.<\/p>\n

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