{"id":23310,"date":"2013-05-08T02:39:09","date_gmt":"2013-05-08T07:39:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=23310"},"modified":"2013-05-08T02:39:09","modified_gmt":"2013-05-08T07:39:09","slug":"cami-cemevi-kilise-kimin-olmali","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/05\/08\/cami-cemevi-kilise-kimin-olmali\/","title":{"rendered":"Cami, cemevi, kilise kimin olmal\u0131?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=23311\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-23311\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-23311\" alt=\"Istanbul\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Istanbul-300x202.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"202\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2013\/05\/Istanbul-300x202.jpg 300w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2013\/05\/Istanbul.jpg 478w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>ORHAN KEMAL CENG\u0130Z<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin gerek anayasa ve gerekse yasalar d\u00fczeyinde cemaatleri ve dini kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131 laz\u0131m.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ey\u00fcp Can\u2019\u0131n cumartesi g\u00fcnk\u00fc yaz\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 olduk\u00e7a can al\u0131c\u0131 bir soruyu ortaya at\u0131yordu: \u2018Camilerin sahibi kim?\u2019 Bu mek\u00e2nlardan yap\u0131lan h\u0131rs\u0131zl\u0131klar nedeniyle Yarg\u0131tay camilerin \u2018kamu mal\u0131\u2019 de\u011fil \u2018ibadethane\u2019 oldu\u011funa karar vermi\u015f. Bu ibadethanelerin sahibi kimmi\u015f peki? Cevab\u0131 Ey\u00fcp\u2019\u00fcn yaz\u0131s\u0131ndan okuyal\u0131m: \u201c80 bin caminin tamam\u0131n\u0131n y\u00f6netimi Diyanet\u2019e ba\u011fl\u0131 fakat m\u00fclkiyet camiden camiye de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Kimi Hazine\u2019ye ait, kimi belediye, vak\u0131f ya da derne\u011fe&#8230;\u201d<br \/>\nAsl\u0131nda Ey\u00fcp\u2019\u00fcn sordu\u011fu soru bizi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de din \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc alan\u0131nda en can al\u0131c\u0131 meselelerden birisinin kalbine g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcyor: T\u00fcrkiye dini kurumlar\u0131n t\u00fczelki\u015fili\u011fini tan\u0131m\u0131yor. Yani kilise, kilise olarak, cami, cami olarak tan\u0131nm\u0131yor. Yukar\u0131daki \u00f6rneklerde cami, Diyanet\u2019in, vakf\u0131n, derne\u011fin camiidir, ama kendi ba\u015f\u0131na ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z bir birim de\u011fildir. Cami ve onu olu\u015fturan cemaat bir varl\u0131k olarak hukuk kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda yoktur, Diyanet, vak\u0131f ve dernek vard\u0131r.<br \/>\nNe demek istedi\u011fimi anlatabilmek i\u00e7in Avrupa \u00fclkelerinde bu kurumlar\u0131n nas\u0131l tan\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131na ili\u015fkin birka\u00e7 \u00f6rnek vereyim. \u00d6rne\u011fin Almanya\u2019da bir kilise veya cemaat devlete \u2018tan\u0131nmak\u2019 i\u00e7in ba\u015fvurduktan sonra, hukuken aranan ko\u015fullar\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yorsa (belli bir say\u0131, devaml\u0131l\u0131k vd gibi), devlet taraf\u0131ndan dini \u2018yap\u0131\u2019 olarak tan\u0131n\u0131yor. Almanya\u2019da bu yap\u0131lar kamu hukukunun olanaklar\u0131ndan faydalan\u0131yorlar. \u00d6rne\u011fin, bu cemaat ve kiliselere \u00fcye olanlar, \u00f6dedikleri paran\u0131n tamam\u0131 buralara \u00f6denmek \u00fczere vergi daireleri arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla \u00f6zel bir vergi \u00f6d\u00fcyorlar. Bizde ise biliyorsunuz Diyanet \u0130\u015fleri herkesten toplanan vergileri sadece S\u00fcnni vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n hizmetinde kullan\u0131yor.<br \/>\n\u00d6rne\u011fin Avusturya\u2019da tan\u0131nma \u2018Kiliseler ve dini topluluklar yasas\u0131\u2019 \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde ger\u00e7ekle\u015fiyor. Hollanda\u2019da Medeni Kanun\u2019un \u2018dini kurumlara\u2019 ili\u015fkin d\u00fczenlemeleri \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde t\u00fczelki\u015filik kazan\u0131l\u0131yor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin kat\u0131 laiklik anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131 taklit etti\u011fi Fransa\u2019da bile dini topluluklar \u2018association cultuelle\u2019 olarak ayr\u0131 bir kategori alt\u0131nda tan\u0131n\u0131yor.<br \/>\nBizde ise dernekler ve vak\u0131flar kanunlar\u0131nda dini kurumlarla ilgili hi\u00e7bir h\u00fck\u00fcm yok. Fiili olarak kurulmu\u015f cami kurma ve ya\u015fatma dernek ve vak\u0131flar\u0131 var. Yine bu vak\u0131f ve derneklerden esinlenerek 2004 y\u0131l\u0131ndan beri gayrim\u00fcslimlere de bu t\u00fcr vak\u0131f ve dernek kurma imk\u00e2n\u0131 tan\u0131nd\u0131. \u2018Dernek\u2019 ve \u2018vak\u0131f\u2019 dini kurumlar\u0131n ihtiya\u00e7lar\u0131 i\u00e7in haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015f yap\u0131lar de\u011fildir. Neden bir kilise, y\u00f6netim kurulu se\u00e7mek, belli aral\u0131klarla genel kurul yapmak zorunda olsun? Neden bir dini kurum para toplamak i\u00e7in \u2018yard\u0131m toplama kanununa\u2019 tabi olsun? Neden a\u00e7\u0131k havada yap\u0131lacak bir dini ayin \u2018toplant\u0131 ve g\u00f6steri y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fc\u015fleri yasas\u0131\u2019 \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde de\u011ferlendirilsin? Yine mesela gayrim\u00fcslimlerin \u2018patriklik\u2019 gibi \u00fcst kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 bu hukuki mevzuat i\u00e7inde nereye oturtacaks\u0131n\u0131z?<br \/>\nS\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011fim eksiklik \u2018tesad\u00fcfen\u2019 veya \u2018arizi\u2019 nedenlerle olu\u015fmu\u015f hukuki bo\u015fluklardan kaynaklanm\u0131yor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de devlet, dini alan\u0131 b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcyle kontrol alt\u0131nda tutmak istiyor. Bir taraftan Alevi vatanda\u015f\u0131n cemevini tan\u0131m\u0131yor; \u00f6b\u00fcr taraftan camiye vaizi kendisi at\u0131yor; Ermeni, Rum ve Yahudilere \u201cSizin ili\u015fkilerinizi Lozana g\u00f6re d\u00fczenledim\u201d diyor ama onlara bug\u00fcn\u00fcn d\u00fcnyas\u0131nda i\u00e7inde hareket edebilecekleri hi\u00e7bir hukuki d\u00fczenleme vermiyor; Protestanlara, S\u00fcryanilere dernek kurma izni veriyor ama bu dernekler asla \u2018cami yapma derne\u011finin\u2019 bir ad\u0131m \u00f6tesine ge\u00e7emiyor, kiliseleri, manast\u0131rlar\u0131 tan\u0131nm\u0131yor.<br \/>\nOrtada muazzam bir bo\u015fluk var. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin gerek anayasa ve gerekse yasalar d\u00fczeyinde cemaatleri ve onlar\u0131n dini kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Anayasan\u0131n ard\u0131ndan bir \u2018dini kurumlar yasas\u0131\u2019 \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmal\u0131 ve dini gruplar\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn ihtiya\u00e7lar\u0131 bu yasa \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde d\u00fczenlenmeli.<br \/>\nBu dini kurumlar yasas\u0131yla ibadet yerlerinin kurulu\u015fu, eleman istihdam\u0131, din adam\u0131 yeti\u015ftirmeleri, para ve yard\u0131m toplamalar\u0131, her t\u00fcrl\u00fc toplant\u0131lar\u0131, a\u00e7acaklar\u0131 kurslar, m\u00fclkiyet edinmeleri, huzurevi a\u00e7malar\u0131 vd gibi b\u00fct\u00fcn hususlar dini cemaatlerin ihtiya\u00e7lar\u0131na g\u00f6re d\u00fczenlenmelidir. \u0130badet yerlerinin tan\u0131nmas\u0131, mesela belli say\u0131da ki\u015finin ba\u015fvurusu gibi, objektif kriterlere ba\u011flanmal\u0131, cemevinin, Budist tap\u0131na\u011f\u0131n\u0131n vd ibadet yeri olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na devlet karar vermemelidir. Yine ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde T\u00fcrkiye gayrim\u00fcslimlerin patriklik makamlar\u0131n\u0131n, \u015fu anda yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi, i\u00e7i\u015flerine kar\u0131\u015fmaktan vazge\u00e7meli, bu kurumlar\u0131n varl\u0131k ve haklar\u0131 anayasal g\u00fcvenceye kavu\u015fturmal\u0131d\u0131r.<br \/>\nBa\u015fl\u0131ktaki soruya d\u00f6necek olursak e\u011fer, camiler, kiliseler, havralar, cemevleri ve di\u011fer ibadet yerleri onlar\u0131 kuran cemaatlere ait olmal\u0131, onlar taraf\u0131ndan y\u00f6netilmelidir. Ve tan\u0131nmalar\u0131 da tamamen kendi adlar\u0131yla olmal\u0131d\u0131r, dernek veya vak\u0131f olarak de\u011fil&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.radikal.com.tr\/yazarlar\/orhan_kemal_cengiz\/cami_cemevi_kilise_kimin_olmali-1132336<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ORHAN KEMAL CENG\u0130Z T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin gerek anayasa ve gerekse yasalar d\u00fczeyinde cemaatleri ve dini kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Ey\u00fcp Can\u2019\u0131n cumartesi g\u00fcnk\u00fc yaz\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 olduk\u00e7a can al\u0131c\u0131 bir soruyu ortaya at\u0131yordu: \u2018Camilerin sahibi kim?\u2019 Bu mek\u00e2nlardan yap\u0131lan h\u0131rs\u0131zl\u0131klar nedeniyle Yarg\u0131tay camilerin \u2018kamu mal\u0131\u2019 de\u011fil \u2018ibadethane\u2019 oldu\u011funa karar vermi\u015f. Bu ibadethanelerin sahibi kimmi\u015f peki? Cevab\u0131 Ey\u00fcp\u2019\u00fcn yaz\u0131s\u0131ndan okuyal\u0131m: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,15,26,42],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23310","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-haberler","category-haklarimiz","category-makaleler","category-turkiyede-azinliklar"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Cami, cemevi, kilise kimin olmal\u0131? - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/05\/08\/cami-cemevi-kilise-kimin-olmali\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Cami, cemevi, kilise kimin olmal\u0131? - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"ORHAN KEMAL CENG\u0130Z T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin gerek anayasa ve gerekse yasalar d\u00fczeyinde cemaatleri ve dini kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131 laz\u0131m. 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