{"id":23233,"date":"2013-05-03T04:11:22","date_gmt":"2013-05-03T09:11:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=23233"},"modified":"2013-05-03T04:11:22","modified_gmt":"2013-05-03T09:11:22","slug":"turkiye-yakin-gelecekte-ermenilerle-de-masaya-oturacak","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/05\/03\/turkiye-yakin-gelecekte-ermenilerle-de-masaya-oturacak\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;T\u00fcrkiye, yak\u0131n gelecekte Ermenilerle de masaya oturacak&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=23234\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-23234\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-23234\" alt=\"Avedis Hadjian\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Avedis-Hadjian-300x201.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"201\" \/><\/a>Arjantin\u2019de g\u00f6rev yapan Ermeni gazeteci Avedis Hadjian&#8217;\u0131n Anadolu&#8217;nun <\/i><\/b><b><i>(<em>Bat\u0131 Ermenistan<\/em>-&#8216;<em>Akunq<\/em>&#8216; web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri) <\/i><\/b><b><i>\u00e7e\u015fitli kentlerini dola\u015farak yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ara\u015ft\u0131rman\u0131n La Nacion gazetesinde yay\u0131nlanmas\u0131 geni\u015f yank\u0131 buldu. <\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Hadjian, gizli Ermeniler&#8217;in varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hen\u00fcz 13-14 ya\u015flar\u0131ndayken Buenos Aires&#8217;deki evlerinde Arjantin Ermeni Kilisesi ba\u015fpiskoposu Grigoris B\u00fcnyatyan&#8217;\u0131n babas\u0131yla konu\u015furken duydu\u011funu, Mu\u015f ve Batman&#8217;\u0131n Sason \u0130l\u00e7esi yak\u0131nlar\u0131nda Ermeniler&#8217;in kimliklerini gizleyerek ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 duydu\u011funu belirterek, &#8220;1-2 milyon aras\u0131nda gizli Ermeni&#8217;nin varl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan s\u00f6z ediyordu B\u00fcnyatyan. 1970&#8217;li y\u0131llarda foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131 Martin Keskisian&#8217;\u0131n babama Mu\u015f dolaylar\u0131nda K\u00fcrtle\u015fmi\u015f Ermeniler&#8217;den s\u00f6z etti\u011fini hayal- meyal hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum. O zamanlar bana ger\u00e7ekten \u00e7ok, arzulanan bir \u015fey gibi gelen bu konu\u015fmalara pek meyil vermemi\u015ftim. \u015eimdilerle konuyla ilgilenmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m. San\u0131r\u0131m B\u00fcnyatyan&#8217;\u0131n bilgi kayna\u011f\u0131n\u0131n, soyk\u0131r\u0131mdan sa\u011f \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00a0yan\u0131nda Anadolu&#8217;daki (<em>Bat\u0131 Ermenistan<\/em>-&#8216;<em>Akunq<\/em>&#8216; web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri) Ermenileri en iyi tan\u0131yan d\u00f6nemin \u0130stanbul Patri\u011fi \u015einorhk Kalustyan olmas\u0131, konuya olan ilgilimi art\u0131ran ba\u015fl\u0131ca etmen oldu&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Radikal&#8217;e<\/strong> konu\u015fan Avedis Hadjian, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na 2009 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u00d6zcan Alper&#8217;in New York&#8217;ta g\u00f6sterimi yap\u0131lan &#8216;Hem\u015fin Ermenice&#8217; dilinde konu\u015fulan &#8216;Sonbahar&#8221; filmini izledikten sonra Anadolu (<em>Bat\u0131 Ermenistan<\/em>-&#8216;<em>Akunq<\/em>&#8216; web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri)Ermenileri&#8217;ni ara\u015ft\u0131rmak i\u00e7in ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi. Hadjian &#8220;Daha \u00f6nceleri Hem\u015finli M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler&#8217;in varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyordum, ama Alper&#8217;le tan\u0131\u015fmam konuya olan ilgimi art\u0131rd\u0131&#8221; diye konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Gazeteci Avedis Hadjian, Diaspora Ermenileri aras\u0131nda \u00f6zellikle son y\u0131llarda yaz\u0131lan makale ve yay\u0131nlanan belgesellerden dolay\u0131 artan say\u0131da gizli Ermeniler konusunda bir bilinirlik oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc anlat\u0131rken, &#8221; T\u00fcrkiye &#8216;de beni etkileyen n\u00fcfusun \u00e7e\u015fitlili\u011fi. D\u0131\u015far\u0131dan bak\u0131nca onca etnisiya ve cemaatleriyle homojen bir varl\u0131km\u0131\u015f gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Ama dikkatli bak\u0131l\u0131nca, son derece \u00e7e\u015fitli \u00f6\u011feler bar\u0131nd\u0131ran ve karma\u015f\u0131k bir toplum oldu\u011fu fark ediliyor. Gizli Ermenilerle ba\u011f kurmam \u00e7ok \u00e7etrefilli bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmayd\u0131. \u00c7o\u011funlukla birbirlerine referans olan ki\u015fiden ki\u015fiye atlayarak ve daha \u00f6nce T\u00fcrk gazetecilerle konu\u015fan insanlarla ba\u011flant\u0131 kurabildim&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Martin Keskisian, her zaman Bat\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n yabanc\u0131 oldu\u011fu, do\u011fuya \u00f6zg\u00fc misafirperverlikle kar\u015f\u0131land\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, buna ra\u011fmen g\u00fcven kazanmas\u0131n\u0131n her zaman kolay olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, g\u00fcvenini kazand\u0131klar\u0131 aras\u0131ndan devletten gelebilecek bask\u0131 endi\u015fesiyle konu\u015fmaktan sak\u0131nanlar bulundu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Keskisian, \u015f\u00f6yle konu\u015ftu:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">&#8220;Hepsi; hatta konu\u015fmaya cesaret edenler bile bir y\u00fczy\u0131l sonra kimliklerini a\u00e7\u0131k etmekten bariz \u015fekilde korku duyuyorlard\u0131. Hi\u00e7biri soyk\u0131r\u0131m ve k\u00f6klerini unutmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu beni \u00e7ok etkiledi. Korku hepsinin ortak \u00f6zelli\u011fiydi. \u0130\u00e7g\u00fcd\u00fcsel, kendini korumaya y\u00f6nelik, nedensizli\u011fin \u00f6tesinde ruhun derinliklerinden gelen bir korku. G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcklerimden gen\u00e7 bir \u00fcniversite \u00f6\u011frencisi, zekas\u0131, Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc ve tarihi hakk\u0131ndaki bilgisi ve Ermenice \u00f6\u011frenmek i\u00e7in g\u00f6sterdi\u011fi \u00e7abayla beni \u00e7ok etkiledi. B\u00fcy\u00fck bir a\u015firetten geliyor, bir s\u00fcr\u00fc sa\u011fl\u0131k problemleriyle u\u011fra\u015fmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, \u0130\u00e7 Anadolu (<em>Bat\u0131 Ermenistan<\/em>-&#8216;<em>Akunq<\/em>&#8216; web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri) gibi pek de dost\u00e7a olmayan bir ortamda gizli Ermeniler&#8217;le bulu\u015fma \u00e7abas\u0131, \u00f6\u011frenme ve ara\u015ft\u0131rma azminden \u00e7ok \u00e7ok etkilendim.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Gizli Ermeniler&#8217;in \u00f6zellikle \u0130stanbul&#8217;a ta\u015f\u0131nan akrabalar aras\u0131nda ba\u011flant\u0131lar\u0131 oldu\u011funu, kendilirini g\u00fcvende hissettiklerini ve Ermeni kilisesi ile ba\u011flant\u0131 kurduklar\u0131n\u0131; ald\u0131klar\u0131 e\u011fitim ve ya\u015fam tarzlar\u0131n\u0131n birbirleriyle ili\u015fki kurmalar\u0131n\u0131 zorla\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlatan Arjantinli gazeteci, \u015fu iddialarda bulundu:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">&#8220;\u0130nan\u00e7lardaki \u00e7e\u015fitlilik birbirlerine \u015f\u00fcpheyle yakla\u015fmalar\u0131na neden oluyor, \u00f6zellikle s\u00f6ylemde laik bir sisteme sahip olsa da T\u00fcrkiye gibi bir toplumda, dini mezhepler aras\u0131ndaki katmanla\u015fma buna sebep oluyor. Onlar bize g\u00f6re yani T\u00fcrkiye d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndakilere g\u00f6re &#8216;Ermeni M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar.&#8217; Ama T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;deler i\u00e7in ve n\u00fcfus c\u00fczdan\u0131nda &#8216;M\u00fcsl\u00fcman&#8217; olarak tabir edilenler i\u00e7in olay\u0131n daha farkl\u0131 bir boyutu var. Kanun ve n\u00fcfus c\u00fczdanlar\u0131ndaki din haneleri bizzat kendi g\u00f6zlerindeki Ermeni kimliklerini ayr\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yor. Ba\u015fka bir deyi\u015fle &#8216;Ermeni&#8217; ve &#8216;M\u00fcsl\u00fcman&#8217; olmak T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de bir \u00e7eli\u015fkidir. Ermeni; H\u0131ristiyan demektir. M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanl\u0131k ise; T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de kilise ile ilgili Ermeni, Rum ya da di\u011fer geleneksel H\u0131ristiyan herhangi bir etnik grubun \u00fcyeli\u011fini kabul etmez bir tan\u0131md\u0131r.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Avedis Hadjian, &#8220;Bir Ermeni kay\u0131ts\u0131z \u015farts\u0131z H\u0131ristiyan m\u0131 olmal\u0131d\u0131r?&#8221; sorusunun \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir tart\u0131\u015fman\u0131n konusu oldu\u011funu ifade ederken, &#8220;Baz\u0131 M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler, \u00f6zellikle Diyarbak\u0131r b\u00f6lgesindekiler kendilerini Ermeni ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olarak tan\u0131ml\u0131yor. \u00d6zellikle toplumlar\u0131n gitgide laikle\u015fmeleri sonucu her ge\u00e7en g\u00fcn artan say\u0131da, Ermeni M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar&#8217;\u0131 kabul etmeye istekli bir kitlenin oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Ama 2 bin y\u0131ld\u0131r bir toplulukla kilisenin b\u00fct\u00fcnle\u015fti\u011fi bir k\u00fclt\u00fcrde -ki kilisenin iki bin y\u0131l boyunca yabanc\u0131 egemenli\u011fi, k\u0131y\u0131mlar, dil ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn kayb\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 ulusal kimli\u011fin devaml\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n tek unsuru oldu\u011funu unutmayal\u0131m- bu geleneksel tan\u0131mlar\u0131n yeniden tan\u0131mlanmas\u0131 zaman alacakt\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye Ermenileri&#8217;nin, g\u00f6\u00e7lere ra\u011fmen, hala ge\u00e7mi\u015f g\u00fcnlerin ihti\u015fam\u0131n\u0131 koruyan, geleneksel &#8216;Nor Marmara&#8217; ve &#8216;Jamanak&#8217; gazetelerine eklenen Hrant Dink&#8217;in kurdu\u011fu Agos&#8217;tan Aras yay\u0131nlar\u0131na kadar kendi kimli\u011fine y\u00f6nelik ad\u0131mlar atabilen bir topluluk. Arjantin ve ABD Ermenileriyle ayr\u0131\u015ft\u0131ran en \u00f6nemli \u00f6zellikleri, Diaspora&#8217;y\u0131 olu\u015fturmamal\u0131. Bizans d\u00f6nemine dayanan eski geleneksel Ermeni toplumunun par\u00e7as\u0131d\u0131r T\u00fcrkiye Ermenileri. Bu anlamda, \u0130stanbul&#8217;daki toplulu\u011fu, \u0130ran Ermenileriyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rmak daha do\u011fru olur diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Her iki toplulu\u011fun tarihi Ermenistan kadar eskidir ve Ermeni uygarl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n geleneksel merkezleridir&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify\">&#8220;T\u00dcRK\u0130YE, ERMEN\u0130LERLE DE MASAYA OTURACAK&#8221;<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Avedis Hadjian, &#8220;Bir Ermeni ve gazeteci olarak sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcmlenece\u011fine inan\u0131yor musunuz? T\u00fcrkiye Ermenileri \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm s\u00fcrecini desteklemekle birlikte masada 1915&#8217;in eksik oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Bir g\u00fcn ayn\u0131 masan\u0131n di\u011fer ucunda Ermenilerin olabilece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliyor musunuz?&#8221; sorusuna \u015fu yan\u0131t\u0131 verdi:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">&#8220;\u0130nan\u0131yorum bir g\u00fcn, bence \u00e7ok uzak de\u011fil, T\u00fcrkiye, soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n do\u011furdu\u011fu talepleri kar\u015f\u0131lamak i\u00e7in Ermenilerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeye ba\u015flayacak. T\u00fcrkiye sadece adalet bunu gerektirdi\u011fi i\u00e7in de\u011fil, kendisi ve toplumla uzla\u015fmak i\u00e7in bu yola girecek. Yakla\u015f\u0131k 1 y\u00fczy\u0131ld\u0131r, yank\u0131lanan soyk\u0131r\u0131m nidalar\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;yi rahats\u0131z ediyor. Konu\u015ftu\u011fum T\u00fcrklerin b\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bekleyen en \u00f6nemli sorunun K\u00fcrt ve Ermeni sorunu oldu\u011fu konusunda birle\u015fiyorlard\u0131. Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta, gizli Ermenilerin herhangi bir rol\u00fc olacaklar\u0131n\u0131 sanm\u0131yorum. Ortak, iyi hedeflere y\u00f6nelmi\u015f bireysel \u00e7abalar\u0131n toplam\u0131, toplumu harekete ge\u00e7irebilir. T\u00fcrkiye \u00f6zelinde bunun etkisi ne olabilece\u011fi bilinmez.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify\">&#8220;T\u00dcRK\u0130YE VE D\u0130ASPORA \u00c7OK \u00c7E\u015e\u0130TL\u0130 VE KARMA\u015eIK&#8221;<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;deki ve Arjantin&#8217;deki diaspora Ermenilerinin \u00e7ok \u00e7e\u015fitli ve karma\u015f\u0131k oldu\u011funu, bir\u00e7ok T\u00fcrk ile tart\u0131\u015f\u0131rken &#8216;Jenosit&#8217; yerine T\u00fcrk\u00e7e&#8217;deki anlam\u0131 olan &#8216;soyk\u0131r\u0131m&#8217; s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bunun derin ho\u015fnutsuzlu\u011fa neden oldu\u011funu ikna etmesi i\u00e7in y\u0131llar harcad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir T\u00fcrk arkada\u015f\u0131n\u0131n, T\u00fcrk ve Ermeni toplumu aras\u0131nda k\u00f6pr\u00fc kurma \u00e7abas\u0131nda oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/turkiye-yakin-gelecekte-ermenilerle-de-masaya-oturacak-4985.html<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Arjantin\u2019de g\u00f6rev yapan Ermeni gazeteci Avedis Hadjian&#8217;\u0131n Anadolu&#8217;nun (Bat\u0131 Ermenistan-&#8216;Akunq&#8216; web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri) \u00e7e\u015fitli kentlerini dola\u015farak yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ara\u015ft\u0131rman\u0131n La Nacion gazetesinde yay\u0131nlanmas\u0131 geni\u015f yank\u0131 buldu. 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