{"id":22734,"date":"2013-04-05T03:09:29","date_gmt":"2013-04-05T08:09:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=22734"},"modified":"2013-04-05T03:09:29","modified_gmt":"2013-04-05T08:09:29","slug":"patrik-zavenin-listesi-kitabi-uzerine-sait-cetinoglu-ile-soylesi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/04\/05\/patrik-zavenin-listesi-kitabi-uzerine-sait-cetinoglu-ile-soylesi\/","title":{"rendered":"Patrik Zaven\u2019in Listesi kitab\u0131 \u00fczerine Sait \u00c7etino\u011flu ile s\u00f6yle\u015fi"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\u054d\u0561\u0575\u056b\u0569<\/a>Agos: Kitab\u0131n\u0131z olu\u015fum s\u00fcrecini anlatabilir misiniz? \u00a0Belgeleri incelerken en \u00e7ok hangiler noktalar ilginizi \u00e7ekti?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7etinoglu: Patrik Zaven\u2019in Listesinden hareketle bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam bir ba\u015fka a\u00e7\u0131dan T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti\u2019nin kurulu\u015f s\u00fcrecini ve rejimi sorgulamay\u0131 hedeflemekte, bu konudaki tart\u0131\u015fmalara katk\u0131 sunmay\u0131 ama\u00e7lamaktad\u0131r. Kitapta da g\u00f6r\u00fclece\u011fi gibi bir yorum yap\u0131lmaya gerek g\u00f6r\u00fclmemi\u015ftir.Listeye biyorgafiler eklenmesiyle yetinilmi\u015f,\u00a0 \u00a0sadece eklerde baz\u0131 tamamlay\u0131c\u0131 incelemelere yer verilerek Patrik\u2019in listesi zenginle\u015ftirilmi\u015ftir. Eklerde yer verilen Ayhan Aktar ile Ra\u00e7o Donef\u2019in bu konudaki de\u011ferli \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 ile Recep Mara\u015fl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n Abd\u00fclhamid\u2019den M. Kemal\u2019e uzanan exterminatorlerden K\u00fcrt Musa Be\u011f biyografisi Patrik Zaven\u2019in listesine ayr\u0131 bir zenginlik kazand\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Bahaeddin \u015eakir\u2019in \u00e7etelerince katledilen \u00a0Dedelerime ithaf etti\u011fim bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam i\u00e7in ayr\u0131ca bir sunu\u015f d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeme ra\u011fmen sunu\u015fu Bahaeddin \u015eakir Bey\u2019in B\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 Vesikalara G\u00f6re \u0130ttihat ve Terakki <\/em>adl\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmadan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u00a0 Prens Sabahaddin\u2019in s\u00f6zlerine b\u0131rakt\u0131m. Prens y\u0131llar \u00f6ncesinden olacaklar\u0131 haber veriyordu: “Ecnebi devletlerin dahili i\u015flerimize kar\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 her zaman reddedilmi\u015f olmakla beraber, memleketimizde ecnebi m\u00fcdahelesi olmadan \u0131slahat yap\u0131labilece\u011fini tasdik edemeyiz. Biz ancak ecnebi devletlerden \u00e7ekinerek bizimle beraber ya\u015fayan Hristiyanlar\u0131 muhafaza ebebildik. Ecnebi devletlerden korkmasayd\u0131k b\u00fct\u00fcn Hristiyanlar\u0131, bilhassa Ermenileri, tek bir ki\u015fi b\u0131rakmay\u0131ncaya kadar katlederdik…”[1]<\/a> Prensin yarg\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n bug\u00fcnlere de uzand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 rahatl\u0131kla s\u00f6ylemek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. 1907 j\u00f6nt\u00fcrk birlik kongresindeki s\u00f6zleriyle Prens Sabahaddin ba\u015fkaca bir s\u00f6ze gerek b\u0131rakmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n

Patrik Zaven, Ermeni halk\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 i\u015flenen su\u00e7lar\u0131 protesto etti\u011fi i\u00e7in yetkileri elinden al\u0131narak s\u00fcrg\u00fcne g\u00f6nderilen bir dini liderdir. Zaven, s\u00fcrg\u00fcnde de halk\u0131na uygulanan Soyk\u0131r\u0131ma kay\u0131ts\u0131z kalmam\u0131\u015f, bulabildi\u011fi bilgileri kaydederek yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 Liste ile tarihe not d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr. S\u0131ca\u011f\u0131 s\u0131ca\u011f\u0131na haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131na ve s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 bilgileri kullanabilme imkan\u0131na ra\u011fmen zengin bir liste haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Liste ayn\u0131 zamanda Patrik\u2019in en zor ko\u015fullarda olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen halk\u0131na kay\u0131ts\u0131z kalmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n g\u00f6stergesidir. Ayn\u0131 zamanda Patrik\u2019in\u00a0 bir g\u00fcn ge\u00e7 de olsa adaletin tecelli edece\u011fine olan inanc\u0131n\u0131 simgeler.<\/p>\n

Patrik Zaven\u2019in listesi kitab\u0131 d\u00f6rt y\u0131ll\u0131k bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131n \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcd\u00fcr. Patrik Zaven\u2019in listesi\u2019nin oldu\u011funu \u00e7e\u015fitli kaynaklardan okumu\u015ftum ancak kendisine 4 y\u0131l \u00f6nce tesad\u00fcfen ula\u015fabildikten sonra listedeki isimler \u00fczerine yorucu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. Eksiklerim vard\u0131r. Eksiklerimin di\u011fer ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131larca tamamlanaca\u011f\u0131 umudunu ta\u015f\u0131yorum. \u00c7abamla s\u00f6yledi\u011fim gibi Rejimi sorgulayan tart\u0131\u015fmalara katk\u0131 sunma ama\u00e7lanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Listeyi ilgin\u00e7 k\u0131lan \u00f6zelliklerden biri Patrik Zaven\u2019in s\u00fcrg\u00fcnde olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen bu kadar do\u011fru bir \u015fekilde haz\u0131rlayabilmesidir. Liste \u00a01918\u2019de s\u00fcrg\u00fcn d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc \u00a0haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Partik Zaven\u2019in listesini \u00f6nemli ve de\u011ferli k\u0131lan da budur. Listeyi bir\u00e7ok tan\u0131kl\u0131klardan derlenen Raymond Kevorkian\u2019\u0131nkapsaml\u0131 ve muhte\u015fem eseri Le G\u00e9nocide des Arm\u00e9niens<\/em> ile de kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131m. Zaven\u2019in listesi \u00e7ok s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 ko\u015fullarda haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen do\u011fruydu. S\u00f6yledi\u011fim gibi patrik Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n s\u0131ca\u011f\u0131nda tarihe \u00f6nemli bir not d\u00fc\u015ferek, Ermeni Halk\u0131n\u0131n trajedisini g\u00fcndeme ta\u015f\u0131m\u0131\u015f soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n faillerini g\u00f6zler \u00f6n\u00fcne sermi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

Agos: Patrik Zaven’in listesi nas\u0131l, ne kadar s\u00fcrede haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015f? Patrik’in belgelerindeki tan\u0131klar\u0131n ne kadar\u0131 Ermenilere ne kadar\u0131 T\u00fcrk ve K\u00fcrtlere ait?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7etino\u011flu: Patrik\u2019in listesini s\u00fcrg\u00fcn s\u00fcrecinde geli\u015ftirdi\u011fini ve\u00a0 tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131n \u00f6nemli yer tuttu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebiliriz. Ancak tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131n oran\u0131n\u0131n verilebilmesinin m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Patrik Listesini Divan-i Harbi \u00d6rfi duru\u015fmalar\u0131ndan \u00f6nce haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Listesi bu duru\u015fmalar esnas\u0131nda T\u00fcrk ve K\u00fcrt tan\u0131klar taraf\u0131ndan do\u011fruland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyebiliriz. Ne yaz\u0131k ki T\u00fcrk Nurenberg\u2019<\/em>i reelpolitik\u2019e kurban edilmi\u015ftir. Uygar<\/em> \u00fclkeler insanl\u0131k i\u00e7in tarihi f\u0131rsat\u0131 ka\u00e7\u0131rm\u0131\u015flar ve 20. Y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n ilk b\u00fcy\u00fck Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rmezden gelmi\u015flerdir. \u00a0E\u011fer o d\u00f6nemin hukuki terimleriyle insanl\u0131\u011fa kar\u015f\u0131 i\u015flenen su\u00e7lar<\/em> yani 1915 Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 yarg\u0131lanabilseydi bu g\u00fcn \u00e7ok daha ileri bir noktada olaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z kesindir. Yine bir kere daha alt\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7izmek gerek ki, bu su\u00e7lar Kemalist rejimin kurulu\u015funda referans noktas\u0131 olmu\u015ftur. Bunu Listede ge\u00e7en ki\u015filerin biyografilerinde g\u00f6rmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliyor musunuz? Devlet y\u00f6netimini ge\u00e7tik, Exterminator<\/em>ler adalet <\/em>mekanizmas\u0131n\u0131n en \u00fcst kademelerinde g\u00f6revlendirilmi\u015flerdir. Bu g\u00fcn adalet<\/em>in sefaleti tam da bu gelenekten kaynaklanmaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n

\nAgos: Kitab\u0131n\u0131zda \u0130ttihat ve Terakki i\u00e7inde hem de Cumhuriyet d\u00f6neminde devlet adaml\u0131\u011f\u0131 yapm\u0131\u015f insanlar var. Bu iki d\u00f6nemde gayrim\u00fcslimlere olan bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n ve y\u00f6nelik politikalar\u0131n benzer ve ayr\u0131 olan y\u00f6nleri neler?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7etino\u011flu: Patrik Zaven\u2019in Listesini ilgin\u00e7 k\u0131lan noktalardan bir de \u0130ttihad (1. J\u00f6nt\u00fcrk) ve Kemalist (2. J\u00f6nt\u00fcrk) kadrolar\u0131n \u00e7ak\u0131\u015fmas\u0131d\u0131r. Bir devaml\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 simgeler. Bu bak\u0131mdan \u0130ttihad\u2019\u0131n b\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 yerden Kemalistlerin\u00a0 devam ettirdiklerini s\u00f6yleyebiliriz. Bu bak\u0131mdan \u0130smet \u00f6nemli bir fig\u00fcrd\u00fcr. Gayrim\u00fcslimler y\u00f6nelik politikalar\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn k\u0131r\u0131lma noktalar\u0131nda imzas\u0131 bulunmaktad\u0131r. 1960 darbesi sonras\u0131nda kurdu\u011fu h\u00fck\u00fcmette iki bakan\u0131n Soyk\u0131r\u0131m s\u00fcrecinde Erzurum valisi olan Hasan Tahsin Uzer\u2019in o\u011flu Celalettin Uzer ile Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019daki Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftiren kadronun 2 numaras\u0131 Feyzi Pirin\u00e7\u00e7io\u011flu\u2019nun o\u011flu Vefik\u2019in bakan olmas\u0131 tesad\u00fcf de\u011fildir. Bu sadece \u0130smet\u2019de cisimle\u015fmemektedir. Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u2019\u0131n \u00f6nemli akt\u00f6rlerinden \u2013 ki kendisi de inkar etmez katledilenlerin listesinin \u00fczerinde \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131ndan yani tedbirsizlikten tutuklan\u0131p Malta\u2019ya g\u00f6nderildi\u011fini s\u00f6yler- Ali M\u00fcnif Ye\u011fena\u2019n\u0131n o\u011flu Turgut Ye\u011fena\u2019n\u0131n 1980 darbesinden sonra Adana temsilcisi olarak dan\u0131\u015fma meclisinde boy g\u00f6stermesi bu politikan\u0131n g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze uzand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 simgeler. \u015eeyh\u00fclislam Hayri Efendi\u2019nin o\u011flu Suat Hayri \u00dcrg\u00fcpl\u00fc\u2019n\u00fcn Varl\u0131k Vergisi s\u00fcrecinde en \u00f6nemli akt\u00f6r olmas\u0131, Kritik d\u00f6nemlerde ba\u015fbakanl\u0131\u011fa getirilmesi de tesad\u00fcf de\u011fildir. Bu Varl\u0131k Vergisi komisyonlar\u0131nda \u0130ttihad\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n ve Kara Kemal\u2019in yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131 Hamal Ferit\u2019in boy g\u00f6stermesini de a\u00e7\u0131klamaktad\u0131r. Listedekileri birbirleriyle okul arkada\u015f\u0131, \u00e7ocukluk arkada\u015f\u0131 birbirleriyle akraba ve h\u0131s\u0131m olduklar\u0131 okuyucunun g\u00f6z\u00fcnden ka\u00e7mayacakt\u0131r. \u0130ttihad\u00e7\u0131lar kesin bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm olarak sava\u015f d\u00f6nemine s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131rken Kemalistler, 1924\u2019ten ba\u015flay\u0131p soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n son noktas\u0131 19 Ocak 2007 ye kadar uzun bir s\u00fcrece yaym\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda aralar\u0131nda bir fark yoktur. Bu T\u00fcrkiye cumhuriyeti\u2019nin kurucu antla\u015fmas\u0131<\/em> Lozan\u2019da R\u0131za Nur\u2019un s\u00f6zlerinden ba\u015flay\u0131p Vecdi G\u00f6n\u00fcl\u2019e kadar kesintisiz uzan\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Agos: Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n e\u015fi Hayriye Han\u0131m, Mustafa Kemal ile Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n cenazesinin \u0130stanbul’a getirilmesi i\u00e7in g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor. Mustafa Kemal, Hayriye Han\u0131m’a “Atat\u00fcrk ‘Biliyorsunuz Hayriye Han\u0131m, Tal\u00e2t Pa\u015fa’yla hi\u00e7bir d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z yoktu. Birinci harbe girmemizden onu hi\u00e7bir zaman su\u00e7lu g\u00f6rmedim, harbe kat\u0131lmaya mecburduk, \u0130stikl\u00e2l Sava\u015f\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda da Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n bizi arkam\u0131zdan vurmas\u0131 muhtemel az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131 \u00f6nceden naklettirmesinden b\u00fcy\u00fck fayda g\u00f6rd\u00fck’ diyerek, ‘Cenazesinin naklini benden \u015fu anda istemeyin, Almanya ile bu konuda g\u00f6r\u00fclecek hesab\u0131m\u0131z var, izin verin \u015fimdi g\u00f6m\u00fcls\u00fcn, zaman\u0131 gelince onu bizzat ben getirtirim’ yan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131 veriyor. Mustafa Kemal o d\u00f6nem i\u00e7in Talat Pa\u015fa’n\u0131n cenazesinin getirilmesini neden istemiyor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7etino\u011flu: D\u00f6nemin reelpolitik ko\u015fullar\u0131n\u0131n engellendi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyebiliriz. M. Kemal\u2019in o s\u0131rada \u0130skenderun Sanca\u011f\u0131n\u0131n (bug\u00fcn k\u00fc Hatay) ilhak\u0131 sorunu ile me\u015fguld\u00fcr. Sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclebilmesi i\u00e7in bu nazik d\u00f6nemde \u0130ngiliz-Frans\u0131z ittifak\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 Almanya ile birlikte an\u0131lmak istememektedir. Bunun yan\u0131nda Almanya\u2019n\u0131n m\u00fcttefiki \u0130talya\u2019n\u0131n Akdeniz\u2019de yay\u0131lmas\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 \u0130ngiliz-Frans\u0131z ittifak\u0131na yak\u0131n g\u00f6r\u00fcnmek ister. Bir denge politikas\u0131n\u0131n sonucudur. \u00a0Ne zamanki bu endi\u015fe ortadan kalkar T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Fa\u015fist Almanya ile ittifak\u0131 zincirlerinden bo\u015falacakt\u0131r. Bu durum Mustafa Kemal\u2019in de\u011fi\u015fmez d\u0131\u015f i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Tevfik R\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc Aras\u2019\u0131n \u2013 ki Aras\u2019\u0131n da bir doktor olarak Soyk\u0131r\u0131ma\u00a0 dahli ile ilgili bilgiler mevcuttur- yerine Almanc\u0131 ve fa\u015fist \u015e\u00fckr\u00fc Saraco\u011flu\u2019nun getirilmesinde g\u00f6rmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Endi\u015fe ortadan kalkt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve denge Fa\u015fistlerin lehine de\u011fi\u015fti\u011finde Talat\u2019\u0131n bir kilise deposunda bulunan kemikleri Hitler taraf\u0131ndan T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye bir jest olarak g\u00f6nderilecektir.<\/p>\n

Mustafa Kemal\u2019in s\u00f6zleri ile Halil Mente\u015fe ve ge\u00e7en\u00a0 y\u0131l savunma bakan\u0131 Vecdi G\u00f6n\u00fcl\u2019\u00fcn s\u00f6zleri aras\u0131nda \u015fa\u015f\u0131rt\u0131c\u0131 bir \u00f6rt\u00fc\u015fme vard\u0131r. M. Kemal\u2019in Talat ile ilgili d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerinin g\u00fcn \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131 Talat\u2019\u0131n defteri ile birlikte e\u015fi Hayriye han\u0131m\u0131n an\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131sa not olarak yay\u0131nlayan Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131\u2019ya bor\u00e7luyuz. Bardak\u00e7\u0131\u2019n\u0131n elinde g\u00fcn \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kmay\u0131 bekleyen ba\u015fka \u00f6nemli bilgiler oldu\u011fu da ayr\u0131 bir ger\u00e7ekliktir.<\/p>\n

Agos: Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131’nda T\u00fcrk doktorlar\u0131n kat\u0131l\u0131m\u0131ndan bahsediyorsunuz. Bu doktorlar hangi b\u00f6lgelerde katliama kat\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ve neler yapm\u0131\u015flar?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7etino\u011flu: Soyk\u0131r\u0131m s\u00fcrecinde doktorlar \u00f6nemli g\u00f6revler \u00fcstlenmi\u015flerdir, Bahaeddin \u015eakir, Re\u015fid ve Naz\u0131m doktordurlar. Doktorlar Trabzon ve Erzincan\u2019da katliamlara kat\u0131lm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Erzincan\u2019da doktorlar Ermeni doktorlar\u0131 katlettikleri gibi tif\u00fcs bula\u015fan Erzurum valisinin tedavisi i\u00e7in sa\u011flam Ermeni gen\u00e7lere tif\u00fcs bula\u015ft\u0131r\u0131larak a\u015f\u0131 geli\u015ftirilmesinde kobay olarak kullan\u0131lm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Bu doktorlar isim de\u011fi\u015ftirdikleri i\u00e7in izlerini kaybettirdiklerini s\u00f6yleyebiliriz. Bunlar aras\u0131nda \u00e7\u0131ld\u0131ranlar, konu\u015fmamas\u0131 i\u00e7in hastaneye kapat\u0131lanlar da mevcuttur. Erzincan hastanesinin bah\u00e7esi, Ermeni doktorlar\u0131n katline \u015fahit olan mekanlardan biridir. Burada faaliyet g\u00f6steren doktorlardan biri de Kani Yaver\u2019dir. Kemalist d\u00f6nemde \u00f6nemli g\u00f6revler \u00fcstlenmi\u015ftir. Kani Yaver Talat\u2019\u0131n cenazesinde \u00f6nde saf tutanlardan biridir. Gn. Tevfik Sa\u011flam da isim de\u011fi\u015ftirenler aras\u0131ndad\u0131r. Tevfik r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc Aras\u2019tan da ayr\u0131ca s\u00f6z etmi\u015ftik.<\/p>\n

Agos: Patrik’in belgelerine g\u00f6re katliamlar\u0131n en \u00e7ok yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u00f6lgeler hangileri? Ermenilere en \u00e7ok hangi b\u00f6lgedeki M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar sahip \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r? Konya ve K\u00fctahya valileri \u00a0tehcir karar\u0131n\u0131 uygulamay\u0131 reddediyorlar. Di\u011ferlerine g\u00f6re bu illerin y\u00f6neticilerini ve halk\u0131n\u0131 farkl\u0131 k\u0131lan nedir?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7etino\u011flu: Patrik Zaven\u2019in\u00a0 listesinin kabar\u0131k oldu\u011fu b\u00f6lgeler Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n katliam\u0131n yo\u011fun oldu\u011fu b\u00f6lgelerdir. Diyarbak\u0131r, Mara\u015f, Sivas, Amasya, Tokat bunlar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda gelir. Bu b\u00f6lgelere ili\u015fkin ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bilgiler verir. Kastamonu vilayeti de valisi de halk\u0131yla birlikte tehcir<\/em>lere kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Mahkeme ba\u015fkan\u0131 Kemalist rejimin efsanevi <\/em>bakanlar\u0131ndan Mustafa Necati\u2019nin oldu\u011fu Kastamonu \u0130stiklal Mahkemeleri en \u00e7ok idam kararlar\u0131n\u0131n verildi\u011fi yerlerden biridir. Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n listesi de g\u00f6r\u00fclece\u011fi gibi uzundur. Ancak Mara\u015f\u00a0 ile ilgili bilgilere ula\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m s\u00f6ylenemez. Bu ilden arkada\u015flar\u0131m listedeki failleri tan\u0131malar\u0131na ra\u011fmen bana bilgi vermekten ka\u00e7\u0131nd\u0131lar. Ki bunlar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131 da bu faillerin birinci dereceden yak\u0131nlar\u0131yd\u0131. Eklerde yer verdi\u011fim Ra\u00e7o Donef\u2019in Erdemli M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar <\/em>\u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 y\u00fcz ak\u0131m\u0131z olan bu insanlara \u0131\u015f\u0131k tutar. Ayhan Aktar\u2019dan ekledi\u011fim Konya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 ise Celal Bey\u2019in \u00e7\u0131rp\u0131nmalar\u0131n\u0131n Hamal Ferit taraf\u0131ndan nas\u0131l bir \u00e7\u0131rp\u0131da ortadan kald\u0131r\u0131l\u0131p Konya\u2019da bulunan Ermenilerin \u00f6l\u00fcm yolculu\u011funa \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131na \u015fahadet eder. Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131n fikir babas\u0131 \u015fu anda \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden yoksun tutulan dostum Rag\u0131p Zarakolu ile Ayhan Aktar\u2019\u0131 da ayr\u0131ca anmak istiyorum. Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam\u0131 onlar\u0131n \u0131srar\u0131 ve y\u00fcreklendirmelerine bor\u00e7luyum. Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131n 1915 Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 ile y\u00fczle\u015fmede bir kap\u0131 a\u00e7maya katk\u0131 sunmas\u0131n\u0131 umarak, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmama g\u00f6sterdi\u011finiz ilgiye ayr\u0131ca te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/p>\n

Kaynak: AGOS Gazetesi<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

[1]<\/i><\/b><\/a> Bahaeddin \u015eakir Bey\u2019in B\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 vesikalara G\u00f6re \u0130ttihat ve Terakki, Haz. Erdal Aydo\u011fan-\u0130smail Eyy\u00fcpo\u011flu, Alternatif\u00a0 Y. 2004, s 434<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

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