{"id":22161,"date":"2013-03-09T03:00:20","date_gmt":"2013-03-09T08:00:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=22161"},"modified":"2013-03-09T03:00:20","modified_gmt":"2013-03-09T08:00:20","slug":"ermeni-edebiyatindan-bir-yazar-adi-soyleyebilir-miyiz-aras-yayincilik-20-yasinda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/03\/09\/ermeni-edebiyatindan-bir-yazar-adi-soyleyebilir-miyiz-aras-yayincilik-20-yasinda\/","title":{"rendered":"Ermeni Edebiyat\u0131ndan Bir Yazar Ad\u0131 S\u00f6yleyebilir miyiz? ARAS YAYINCILIK 20 YA\u015eINDA"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Layout<\/a>Emel G\u00fclcan<\/b><\/p>\n

Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k’tan Tomasyan ve \u015eekeryan’la Gavur Mahallesi’nden diaspora yazarlar\u0131na Ermeni edebiyat\u0131na yolculuk yapt\u0131k; Ermeni edebiyat\u0131na giri\u015f i\u00e7in okuma listesi, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e edebiyata katk\u0131s\u0131…<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

S\u0131rt\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 Taksim Meydan\u0131\u2019na verin, T\u00fcnel\u2019e y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fcn. Solunuzda H\u0131divyal Palas\u2019\u0131 g\u00f6receksiniz. Merdivenleri inince de kar\u015f\u0131n\u0131zda 20. ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131 kutlayan Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Eyl\u00fcl 1993\u2019te kurulan Aras bug\u00fcne kadar Ermeni edebiyat\u0131n\u0131n farkl\u0131 t\u00fcrlerinde 40\u2019\u0131 Ermenice, 100\u2019\u00fc T\u00fcrk\u00e7e 140 kitap yay\u0131mlad\u0131.<\/p>\n

Peki 20 y\u0131l nas\u0131l ge\u00e7ti? Kitapl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, ders kitaplar\u0131m\u0131zda Ermeni edebiyat\u0131 nerede duruyor, ka\u00e7\u0131m\u0131z teredd\u00fcts\u00fcz be\u015f yazar sayabiliriz? Ermeni edebiyat\u0131na nereden ba\u015flayal\u0131m?<\/p>\n

Yay\u0131nevinin kurucular\u0131ndan Yetvart Tomasyan<\/strong>, nam-\u0131 di\u011fer Tomo Bey ve edit\u00f6rlerden Ararat \u015eekeryan<\/strong> Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k\u2019\u0131 ve Ermeni edebiyat\u0131n\u0131 anlatt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k nas\u0131l bir ihtiya\u00e7tan do\u011fdu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> \u0130stanbul\u2019da 50 sene \u00f6nce Ermenice kitap basan yay\u0131nevi vard\u0131. Ama kuruldu\u011fumuz d\u00f6nemde yoktu. Jamanag ve Marmara gazeteleri \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yordu. Marmara gazetesi s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 personeliyle ihtiya\u00e7 olduk\u00e7a kitap yay\u0131nl\u0131yordu. Ben ve arkada\u015flar\u0131m g\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorduk.<\/p>\n

Rag\u0131p<\/strong>\u2019\u0131 (Zarakolu<\/strong>) da anal\u0131m. Belge Yay\u0131nlar\u0131 \u201cMarenostrum Dizisi\u201d \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde Ermeniceden Frans\u0131zcaya, \u0130ngilizceye \u00e7evrilmi\u015f kitaplar\u0131n T\u00fcrk\u00e7e \u00e7evirilerini bas\u0131yordu. \u00d6te yandan M\u0131g\u0131rdi\u00e7 Margosyan<\/strong> 1992\u2019de Gavur Mahallesi\u2019ni T\u00fcrk\u00e7e yeniden yaz\u0131p Bebekus Yay\u0131nlar\u0131\u2019ndan yay\u0131mlad\u0131 ve \u00e7ok ilgi g\u00f6rd\u00fc.<\/p>\n

Ortam b\u00f6yleyken pratikte Ermeni yazarlar\u0131n eserlerinin yay\u0131mlanmas\u0131 ihtiya\u00e7t\u0131. 1993\u2019te biz de ilk Gavur Mahallesi\u2019ni bast\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Yay\u0131nevi nas\u0131l bir ortamda kuruldu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Ge\u00e7enlerde Karde\u015f T\u00fcrk\u00fcler ve Kalan M\u00fczik de 20. y\u0131l\u0131n\u0131 kutlad\u0131. Demek ki o y\u0131llar \u00f6nemli. Devletin kat\u0131nda Ermeni kelimesi hakaret gibi kullan\u0131l\u0131yordu. S\u0131radan insanlar da Ermenileri tan\u0131m\u0131yordu.<\/p>\n

N\u00fcfus memurlu\u011funda bir han\u0131m bana \u201cYabanc\u0131 m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?\u201d diye sormu\u015ftu. Belki iyi niyetiydi, Ermeni olmak k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fc ya, nezaket g\u00f6sterip \u201cErmeni misiniz?\u201d diyememi\u015fti. Bu \u015fartlarda sanat ve edebiyatla kendinizi anlatmak i\u00e7in yola \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131k.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Yay\u0131nevi 1993\u2019te, o kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k y\u0131llarda kuruldu ama 1990\u2019lar\u0131n sonunda sesini duyurdu. Hatta 2000\u2019lerle birlikte Avrupal\u0131la\u015fma, g\u00f6rece demokratikle\u015fme s\u00fcreciyle daha faal oldu.<\/p>\n

Bug\u00fcne kadar en \u00e7ok hangi yazar\/kitap ilgi g\u00f6rd\u00fc?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Margosyan Do\u011fu ve G\u00fcneydo\u011fu\u2019da inan\u0131lmaz okunuyor. Diyarbak\u0131r Kitap Fuar\u0131\u2019nda en pop\u00fcler yay\u0131neviyiz. Gavur Mahallesi 15. bask\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131. Korsana bile d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc.<\/p>\n

Bu kadar sevilmesini neye ba\u011fl\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Biraz son y\u0131llar\u0131n konjonkt\u00fcr\u00fcne ba\u011fl\u0131. K\u00fcrt meselesi art\u0131k konu\u015fuluyor, tart\u0131\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor. Margosyan da Diyarbak\u0131rl\u0131. \u00d6yk\u00fclerinde muhakkak K\u00fcrtler, S\u00fcryaniler, Ermeniler, Yezidiler, T\u00fcrkler ve Yahudiler var. Hikayelerde herkes kendini g\u00f6r\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n

20 y\u0131lda ne gibi s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar ve g\u00fczellikler biriktirdiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Bug\u00fcne kadar bask\u0131 g\u00f6rmedik, kitaplar\u0131m\u0131z toplat\u0131lmad\u0131, hakk\u0131m\u0131zda dava a\u00e7\u0131lmad\u0131. Ama ni\u00e7in bilemem. Burada e\u015fim Payline<\/strong> ve k\u0131z karde\u015fim Takuhi<\/strong> idari i\u015fleri ve dizgiyi hallediyor. Fakat edit\u00f6rl\u00fckle, \u00e7eviriyle, yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131kla u\u011fra\u015fmak isteyen \u00f6zellikle de nitelikli gen\u00e7 insan s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131m\u0131z var.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Bug\u00fcn piyasada Bat\u0131 dillerinde yetkin \u00e7evirmenler var. Ama Ermenicede yok. Bu da editoryal kadromuzun geni\u015fleyememesinin temel sebeplerinden; yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmenimiz Arda\u015fes Margosyan<\/strong>\u2019la birlikte \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan iki-\u00fc\u00e7 edit\u00f6r ve yedi-sekiz g\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fcden ibaret bir kadromuz var.<\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn bu toplum bin y\u0131ld\u0131r beraber ya\u015f\u0131yor, iki bine yak\u0131n Ermenice harfli T\u00fcrk\u00e7e k\u00fclliyat var. Ermeniler 1600 y\u0131ld\u0131r bu co\u011frafyada kendi alfabesiyle yaz\u0131l\u0131 bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr \u00fcretmi\u015f. Buna ra\u011fmen T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki \u00fcniversitelerde Ermeni Dili ve Edebiyat\u0131 k\u00fcrs\u00fcs\u00fc yok. En az\u0131ndan 50-60 sene \u00f6nce bu b\u00f6l\u00fcmler a\u00e7\u0131lsayd\u0131 bu s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 olmazd\u0131.<\/p>\n

\u201cG\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131rsam beni g\u00f6remezsin\u201d<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Davalardan ka\u00e7\u0131nmak i\u00e7in otosans\u00fcr uyguluyor musunuz?<\/strong><\/h2>\n

T:<\/strong> Otosans\u00fcr de\u011fil ama otokontrolden s\u00f6z edebiliriz. Derdim sana kendimi anlatmak ama g\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131rsam beni g\u00f6remezsin. Ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131za dert olacak kitab\u0131 basmay\u0131z. Fakat bast\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z kitab\u0131 makaslamay\u0131z. \u00c7eviride zor paragraflar \u00fczerinde tart\u0131\u015f\u0131r\u0131z. Bazen bir c\u00fcmleyi devrik hale getirirsiniz ve problem kalmaz.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Otosans\u00fcr mevzusunda ilk mesele ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131za i\u015f a\u00e7mamaksa, ikinci mesele de kuru propagandaya d\u00fc\u015fmeden derdimizi edebiyatla anlatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak. \u201cNas\u0131l\u201d yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131za, yani \u00fcsluba \u00f6nem veriyoruz. Estetik de\u011feri olmayan, insandan \u00e7ok k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck politik hesaplara \u00f6nem veren kitaplarla ilgilenmiyoruz.<\/p>\n

\u00d6rne\u011fin ge\u00e7enlerde bast\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z referans eser \u201c1915 \u00d6ncesinde Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu’nda Ermeniler\u201din 1992\u2019de Fransa\u2019daki orijinal bask\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n ad\u0131 \u201cSoyk\u0131r\u0131m \u00d6ncesinde Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu\u2019nda Ermeniler\u201ddi. Buna dikkat ettik mesela.<\/p>\n

Sonu\u00e7ta kitap gazete-dergi gibi h\u0131zl\u0131ca ve ucuza ula\u015f\u0131labilen, h\u0131zla t\u00fcketilen bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Toplumdaki genel \u00f6nyarg\u0131lar\u0131, entelekt\u00fcel geli\u015fmi\u015flik seviyesini de hesaba katmak gerekiyor. Hele ki bir de Ermenilerle ilgili i\u015fler \u00fcretiyorsan\u0131z. Kitap yay\u0131nlamak ve satmak bizim durumumuzda daha \u00e7ok ikna etmek demek oluyor asl\u0131nda.<\/p>\n

Rober Kopta\u015f Hrant Dink\u2019in bu kitab\u0131 basmak i\u00e7in ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 anlatm\u0131\u015ft\u0131.<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Yay\u0131nevini 20 sene evvel Hrant Dink<\/strong> ile kurduk. Hrant \u00fc\u00e7 sene sonra haftal\u0131k gazete \u00e7\u0131karmay\u0131 \u00f6nerdi. Ben de \u201cAcele etmeyelim\u201d dedim. \u00c7ok heyecanl\u0131 bir dosttu, m\u00fcsaade istedi ve Agos\u2019u kurdu.<\/p>\n

Agos\u2019ta bu kitaptan \u00f6zet b\u00f6l\u00fcmler yay\u0131mlad\u0131. O b\u00f6l\u00fcmler ilgi g\u00f6r\u00fcnce kitab\u0131 basmaya niyetlendi. Ama \u00fczerinde \u00e7ok bask\u0131 vard\u0131. O d\u00f6nemde bizim yay\u0131mlamam\u0131z\u0131 istedi ve bu vesileyle kitap buraya ge\u00e7ti. Hrant katledilince \u00fc\u00e7-d\u00f6rt y\u0131l elimiz varmad\u0131. Sonra bir g\u00fcn kutuyu a\u00e7t\u0131k ve \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015flad\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k\u2019\u0131n nas\u0131l bir yay\u0131n politikas\u0131 var?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T: <\/strong>K\u00e2r amac\u0131yla kurulmad\u0131k. \u00c7e\u015fitlili\u011fe \u00f6nem veriyoruz. \u0130ran\u2019daki Ermeni bir kad\u0131n yazar\u0131n roman\u0131n\u0131 da, ABD\u2019deki postmodern yazar\u0131 da \u00e7eviriyoruz. Mizah kitaplar\u0131 da bas\u0131yoruz, yemek kitaplar\u0131 da.<\/p>\n

Merzifon\u2019da 1913\u2019te Ermenice bas\u0131lm\u0131\u015f yemek kitab\u0131m\u0131z var. Acaba 100 y\u0131l sonra bug\u00fcn, Merzifon\u2019da ka\u00e7 matbaada, ka\u00e7 kitap bas\u0131l\u0131yor? Yemek kitaplar\u0131 sadece tarif vermiyor; s\u00f6z\u00fc, belli \u00e7er\u00e7evesi ve mesaj\u0131 olan kitaplar. Yeme\u011fe ilgi duyan okurun eline bu kitap ge\u00e7ti\u011finde, Ermenilerin de kendi gibi insan oldu\u011funu ve y\u00fcz y\u0131l \u00f6nce Merzifon\u2019da ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 anlas\u0131n istiyoruz.<\/p>\n

\u015e:\u00a0<\/strong>Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k\u2019\u0131n mottosu \u201cErmenice edebiyata a\u00e7\u0131lan pencere\u201d. \u0130lk on y\u0131lda yay\u0131nevi daha \u00e7ok \u00f6yk\u00fc, roman, \u015fiir kitaplar\u0131 basm\u0131\u015f. 2004-2005\u2019ten sonra ise 1915 tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n hararetlenmesiyle, 100 y\u0131l \u00f6ncesine odaklanan tarih kitaplar\u0131 ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Bug\u00fcn art\u0131k edebiyat ve inceleme-tarih t\u00fcrlerinin aras\u0131nda bir denge tutturmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n

\u015eiir kitab\u0131na bile dizin<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Editoryal a\u00e7\u0131dan nelere dikkat ediyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Editoryal \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam\u0131z kitab\u0131 zenginle\u015ftirme y\u00f6n\u00fcnde. Kitaba ne katabilece\u011fimize, hangi makaleleri koyabilece\u011fimize, kimin sunu\u015f yazabilece\u011fine bak\u0131yoruz. Buradaki aktif \u00f6\u011frenme s\u00fcreci. \u00c7eviriler yoluyla buraday\u0131z asl\u0131nda ve i\u015fimiz \u00f6l\u00fclerle. Mesela o yazar\u0131 duymad\u0131ysak yay\u0131na haz\u0131rlarken belki ekstra \u00fc\u00e7 kitap okuyoruz.<\/p>\n

T<\/strong>: Okurun ansiklopedilere bakmas\u0131na, google\u2019da aramas\u0131na gerek kalmas\u0131n. Zaten bulamazlar da. Bir k\u00f6y ad\u0131na denk gelince T\u00fcrk\u00e7esini ara\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yoruz veya yazar\u0131n z\u00fcrriyetini bulmak i\u00e7in aylarca u\u011fra\u015f\u0131yoruz. Bazen bir kelime i\u00e7in bir ay bekliyoruz.<\/p>\n

Agos\u2019un genel yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni Rober Kopta\u015f<\/strong> Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k\u2019ta 15 sene \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Buras\u0131 okul gibi. Tarih, sosyoloji, kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rmal\u0131 edebiyat \u00f6\u011frencileri \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Yay\u0131nevi b\u00f6yle ayakta duruyor, burada her kitap birini yeti\u015ftiriyor.<\/p>\n

Galiba \u00e7ok titizsiniz.<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> \u015eiir kitab\u0131na bile dizin koyuyoruz. Ge\u00e7enlerde TV program\u0131nda bundan bahsedince, Karin Karaka\u015fl\u0131 dizin istemedi\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Halbuki \u00f6nceki \u015fiir kitab\u0131na koymu\u015ftuk.<\/p>\n

Virg\u00fcl dergisinde konuyla ilgili ele\u015ftiri yaz\u0131s\u0131 bile \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. O arkada\u015fa mektup yazd\u0131m. Edebiyat tarihi ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131s\u0131 Ermeni \u015fiirinde Prens Adalar\u0131 \u00fczerine \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorsa, b\u00fct\u00fcn \u015fiir kitab\u0131n\u0131 okuyaca\u011f\u0131na dizine bakar ve i\u015fi kolayla\u015f\u0131r. Bunda rahats\u0131z olacak bir \u015fey yok ki.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Y\u0131lda on kitap basabiliyoruz. Belli bir kalite standard\u0131m\u0131z var ve bundan taviz verip kitap say\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 \u00e7o\u011faltmak derdinde de\u011filiz. Ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan i\u015f nitelikli olsun, okuyanlar zevk als\u0131n, k\u00fct\u00fcphanelerinde saklayabilsin istiyoruz. Ge\u00e7ti\u011fimiz yirmi y\u0131la bak\u0131l\u0131nca yay\u0131nevi bu anlamda ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olmu\u015f denebilir. Sahaflarda Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k kitab\u0131 pek bulamazs\u0131n\u0131z.<\/p>\n

A\u00e7\u0131k Radyo\u2019da (94.9) Ermeni Edebiyat\u0131 Numuneleri\u2019ni nas\u0131l haz\u0131rl\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Payline ile Kas\u0131m 2012\u2019den beri \u00e7ok rahat yap\u0131yoruz o programlar\u0131. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc kitaplar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n editoryal haz\u0131rl\u0131k s\u00fcre\u00e7lerinde olu\u015fturulan \u00f6n\u00fc ve arkas\u0131, o 20 dakikay\u0131 fazlas\u0131yla dolduruyor. 15 g\u00fcnde bir Per\u015fembe g\u00fcnleri saat 19.30\u2019da yay\u0131nday\u0131z.<\/p>\n

\u0130ki hafta \u00f6nce Vahram Mavyan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131n \u201cHer Yerde Ermeni Var\u201d kitab\u0131yla ilgili program yapt\u0131k. O kitab\u0131 yay\u0131na Rober haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Eminim fazladan \u00fc\u00e7, d\u00f6rt Ermenice kitap okumas\u0131 gerekmi\u015ftir o s\u00fcre\u00e7te.<\/p>\n

Okur profiliniz nas\u0131l?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Yazarlara ve t\u00fcrlere g\u00f6re de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Mesela Karekin Deveciyan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131n \u201cBal\u0131k ve Bal\u0131k\u00e7\u0131l\u0131k\u201d kitab\u0131n\u0131 bal\u0131k merakl\u0131lar\u0131 okuyor. O kitaptan sonra art\u0131k bir ba\u015fbakan Ermeni kelimesini k\u00fcf\u00fcr gibi kullansa bile o kitab\u0131 okuyana bir \u015fey ifade etmez.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Kemik okurumuz var. Ermenice ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e \u00f6yk\u00fc, roman ve ara\u015ft\u0131rma kitaplar\u0131n\u0131 daha \u00e7ok Ermeni cemaati okuyor. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda kitaplara ve yazar\u0131na g\u00f6re de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Mesela Foto Galatasaray\u2019\u0131 bir s\u00fcr\u00fc foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131, sanat\u00e7\u0131 ald\u0131. Ermenilerle ilgili tarih kitaplar\u0131 belli entelekt\u00fcel birikime sahip Ermeni olmayan ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131, akademisyene de ula\u015f\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

\u201cErmenice r\u00fcya g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorsan\u0131z, edebiyat yapamazs\u0131n\u0131z\u201d<\/strong><\/h2>\n

Ermeni ta\u015fra edebiyat\u0131yla yeni nesil Ermeni edebiyat\u0131 farkl\u0131 m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> \u015eu anda ta\u015fra da, Ermeni ta\u015fra edebiyat\u0131 da kalmad\u0131. Son temsilcisi Margosyan, birka\u00e7 y\u0131ld\u0131r \u00fcretmiyor. Ermenice diaspora edebiyat\u0131 da azal\u0131yor. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc yazarlar ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 \u00fclkenin dilinde yaz\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

Asl\u0131nda yay\u0131nevinde en s\u0131k kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z sorulardan biri bu ve bug\u00fcnlerde bu soruya cevap olabilecek nitelikte 700 sayfal\u0131k bir \u201cErmeni Edebiyat\u0131 Tarihi\u201d kitab\u0131 haz\u0131rl\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n

Michigan \u00dcniversitesi profes\u00f6rlerinden Kevork Bardakjian<\/strong>\u2019\u0131n bu kitapta 1915 sonras\u0131nda temalar\u0131n nas\u0131l de\u011fi\u015fti\u011fini, diaspora yazarlar\u0131n\u0131n ya da Ermenistan\u2019dakilerin ne t\u00fcr bir edebiyat \u00fcretiminde bulunduklar\u0131n\u0131 veya bulunamad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bi\u00e7imde anlat\u0131yor. Kitapta ayr\u0131ca 1500-1920 d\u00f6neminde do\u011fmu\u015f Ermeni yazarlar\u0131n son derece kapsaml\u0131 bir d\u00f6k\u00fcm\u00fc yer al\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Ermeni ta\u015fra edebiyat\u0131n\u0131n geli\u015fmesinde 1915\u2019in (Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131n-\u2018Akunq\u2019 web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri) <\/i>de tesiri vard\u0131. Y\u00fczy\u0131l ba\u015f\u0131nda diasporaya d\u00fc\u015fenler hat\u0131rlar\u0131yla ya\u015fad\u0131lar. O y\u00fczden ta\u015fra edebiyat\u0131 diasporada ve Ermenistan\u2019da \u00e7ok tuttu. 2. D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019ndan sonra Ermeni edebiyat\u0131nda farkl\u0131 temalar \u00f6ne \u00e7\u0131kmaya ba\u015flad\u0131.<\/p>\n

Ermenicede Bat\u0131 ve Do\u011fu leh\u00e7eleri var. Do\u011fu Ermenicesini Ermenistan, Bat\u0131 Ermenicesini \u0130stanbul ve diaspora Ermenileri kullan\u0131yor. UNESCO\u2019ya g\u00f6re Bat\u0131 Ermenicesi art\u0131k kaybolma riskiyle kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya.<\/p>\n

Egemenin dilinde yazma konusunda neler s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T: <\/strong>Bug\u00fcn bir iki isim d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermenice yazan yok. Ermenice k\u00fcfretmiyorsan\u0131z, r\u00fcya g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorsan\u0131z Ermenice edebiyat yapamazs\u0131n\u0131z. Ermeni okullar\u0131nda Ermenice art\u0131k yabanc\u0131 dil gibi \u00f6\u011fretiliyor. \u00c7ocuk okula ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131nda \u0130ngilizce gibi alg\u0131l\u0131yor \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc anadili de\u011fil, evde konu\u015fulmuyor. Boyal\u0131, cici kitaplar\u0131n da hepsi T\u00fcrk\u00e7e. Bu \u015fartlarda nas\u0131l \u00fcretsinler ki?<\/p>\n

Fransa\u2019da, \u0130ngiltere\u2019dekiler i\u00e7in de durum ayn\u0131. Global d\u00fcnyada az\u0131nl\u0131klara yer yok. Ama y\u0131lmamak laz\u0131m. Yar\u0131na ne aktar\u0131r\u0131z, onun \u00e7abas\u0131nday\u0131z.<\/p>\n

20 y\u0131lda nas\u0131l tepkiler ald\u0131n\u0131z?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Hep iyi tepki ald\u0131k. Ara s\u0131ra fuarlarda ufak s\u00fcrt\u00fc\u015fmeler oldu ama i\u015fin tad\u0131n\u0131 ka\u00e7\u0131rmad\u0131. Bizim kitaplar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 bilenler veya merak edenler al\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Buras\u0131 a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 u\u00e7 \u00e7evrelerin ilgisini \u00e7ekmeyen bir yer. Mesela Agos haftal\u0131k gazete ve k\u00f6t\u00fc niyetli gazeteciler taraf\u0131ndan daha kolay \u00f6ne at\u0131ld\u0131, yaz\u0131lardan m\u00fcnaka\u015falar \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131. Ama i\u015fin i\u00e7inde kitap varsa, T\u00fcrkiyeli, entelekt\u00fcel, Ermenilerle ilgili okuyup yazmak isteyenler ilgileniyor.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni yazarlara ilgi nas\u0131l?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> T\u00fcrk\u00e7e kitaplarda 1000-1500 bas\u0131yoruz ve \u00e7o\u011fu ikinci bask\u0131 yap\u0131yor. Bask\u0131s\u0131 t\u00fckeneni muhakkak tekrar bas\u0131yoruz. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ayn\u0131 vapurda yolcuyuz. Mesela Ya\u015far Kemal<\/strong>\u2019in \u0130nce Memed\u2019i T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ka\u00e7 y\u0131lda ne kadar satt\u0131 ki? O kitap Sovyetler zaman\u0131nda Ermenistan\u2019da yakla\u015f\u0131k 20 bin bas\u0131ld\u0131. K\u00f6yl\u00fcler rak\u0131 masas\u0131nda saatlerce kahramanlar\u0131n ruh halini tahlil ediyordu.<\/p>\n

\u015e: <\/strong>Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin k\u00fclt\u00fcrel iklimden ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z de\u011fil. Bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de yazarlar bin-iki bin adet sat\u0131nca ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 say\u0131l\u0131yor. B\u00f6yle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrsek Ermeni yazarlar, tan\u0131n\u0131yor ve okunuyor.<\/p>\n

Kitabevleri ilgi g\u00f6steriyor mu veya bakanl\u0131klar k\u00fct\u00fcphaneler i\u00e7in sizden toplu eser al\u0131yor mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> \u0130stanbul\u2019daki kitabevlerinde politik \u00e7ekince yok. Sekt\u00f6re ba\u011fl\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar var. Butik yay\u0131nevlerinin kitaplar\u0131 \u00f6n raflarda en fazla ne kadar durur ki? Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k\u2019\u0131n kitaplar\u0131 “bestseller” de\u011fil.<\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> K\u00fclt\u00fcr Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 belli prosed\u00fcrlere uygun, belli d\u00f6nemde bas\u0131lm\u0131\u015f kitaplar\u0131 al\u0131p k\u00fct\u00fcphanelere da\u011f\u0131t\u0131yorlar. Bizden de iki y\u0131ld\u0131r kitap al\u0131yorlar.<\/p>\n

“Birbirimize yabanc\u0131 b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131k”<\/h2>\n

K\u00fclt\u00fcrlerin etkile\u015fiminde edebiyat nerede durur?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> \u201cErmeni Edebiyat\u0131 Numuneleri \u20131913\u201d\u00fc yay\u0131mlad\u0131k. O tarihte Ermeni entelekt\u00fcel, Sarkis Srents<\/strong> Ermeni edebiyat\u0131n\u0131 Osmanl\u0131caya \u00e7evirmi\u015f ve kitaptaki \u00f6vg\u00fc yaz\u0131lar\u0131na bak\u0131l\u0131rsa kitap T\u00fcrk entelekt\u00fcellerinden b\u00fcy\u00fck ilgi g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f. B\u00f6yle s\u00fcrseydi bug\u00fcn birbirimizi daha kolay anlard\u0131k. Y\u00fcz y\u0131ll\u0131k cumhuriyet d\u00f6neminde d\u0131\u015fa g\u00f6\u00e7 olmazd\u0131. N\u00fcfus memuru bana \u201cYabanc\u0131 m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?\u201d demezdi. Askerde kimse Ermeni arkada\u015f\u0131na silah\u0131n\u0131 do\u011frultmazd\u0131. Hrant\u2019\u0131 orada kald\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcnde a\u015fa\u011f\u0131 indirmezlerdi.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> \u0130nsanlar\u0131n k\u00fct\u00fcphanesinde Dostoyevski<\/strong>, Tolstoy<\/strong>, Baudelaire<\/strong> yan yanayken, T\u00fcrk\u00e7eye \u00e7evrilmi\u015f Ermenice \u015fiir kitab\u0131 da bulunsayd\u0131 bug\u00fcn sadece Ermeni-T\u00fcrk toplumlar\u0131n\u0131n ili\u015fkisi de\u011fil, genelde T\u00fcrkiye \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 bir yerde olurdu. Bu y\u00fczden de olanca zorlu\u011fa ra\u011fmen burada \u00fcretebilmek derdindeyiz.<\/p>\n

Buras\u0131 20 y\u0131l daha ya\u015farsa belki Dostoyevski\u2019nin yan\u0131nda Margosyan\u2019\u0131n kitaplar\u0131, Zaven Biberyan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131n \u201cBabam A\u015fkale\u2019ye Gitmedi\u201dsi de olur. Bu bir\u00e7ok \u015feyi de\u011fi\u015ftirecektir.<\/p>\n

Biraz ki\u015fisel ama Ermeni, Rum, K\u00fcrt edebiyat\u0131nda eksi\u011fimi fark ettim. Bu eksi\u011fimi neye ba\u011flamal\u0131y\u0131m?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Ders kitaplar\u0131nda T\u00fcrk yazarlar\u0131n sans\u00fcrlendi\u011fi ortamda g\u00fcnah\u0131n\u0131z yok. O Milli E\u011fitim\u2019in g\u00fcnah\u0131. Ermeni, Rum, K\u00fcrt edebiyat\u0131 \u00f6rnekleri zaten ders kitaplar\u0131nda yer alm\u0131yor. Aksine Ermenileri horlayan ifadeler var. Sadece kin ve nefret musluklar\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in birbirimize yabanc\u0131 b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Asl\u0131nda insanlar inan\u0131lmaz susuz. Mesela Diyarbak\u0131r Kitap Fuar\u0131\u2019nda Margosyan kitab\u0131n\u0131 imzalarken, okurlardan biri \u201cGer\u00e7ek mi?\u201d dedi ve yazara dokunmak istedi. Margosyan\u2019\u0131 okuyup sevdinizse dokunmak istiyorsunuz. \u00c7ok normal bir durum anormal oluyor. Bu da ayr\u0131 bir travma.<\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> S\u00f6yledi\u011finiz genel duruma uygun. Ermeni edebiyat\u0131n\u0131 bilmedi\u011fini fark eden ve bundan yak\u0131nan pek \u00e7ok insan var. Tarih kitaplar\u0131nda da Ermeniler, Rumlar arkadan han\u00e7erleyen veya en iyi ihtimalle ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fclen toplumdur. Durum b\u00f6yleyken kim haz\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ders kitab\u0131na Ermeni yazarlardan \u00f6rnekler alabilir, hangi hoca derste okutabilir?<\/p>\n

Nereden ba\u015flamal\u0131y\u0131m?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> \u0130lle pencere a\u00e7acaksak \u201cErmeni Edebiyat\u0131 Numunleri \u20131913\u201dten ba\u015flayabilirsiniz. \u201cBabam A\u015fkale\u2019ye Gitmedi\u201dyi, \u201cGavur Mahallesi\u2019ni okuyabilirsiniz. Siyasi mizah seviyorsan\u0131z Yervant Odyan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131n Yolda\u015f Pan\u00e7uni\u2019sini, sanatla ilgileniyorsan\u0131z Arshile Gorky<\/strong>\u2019yi okuyabilirsiniz. 1915\u2019teki fa\u015fizm nedeniyle Ad\u0131yaman\u2019da ailesini yitiren bir yetimin s\u0131\u011f\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 Fransa\u2019da 1940\u2019larda Nazizm\u2019e kar\u015f\u0131 nas\u0131l m\u00fccadele etti\u011fini merak ediyorsan\u0131z Misak Manu\u015fyan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131 ya da edebiyat\u0131n \u00e7e\u015fitli t\u00fcrlerini denemi\u015f \u00fcnl\u00fc Amerikal\u0131 Ermeni yazar William Saroyan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131 \u00f6nerebilirim.<\/p>\n

Ders kitaplar\u0131nda Ermeni yazarlar yer alsayd\u0131 ne olurdu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> Bu \u00fclke g\u00fclery\u00fczl\u00fc, mutlu bir \u00fclke olurdu. Yaln\u0131z Ermeni yazarlar de\u011fil, Ya\u015far Kemal de ders kitaplar\u0131nda olsayd\u0131, insanlar o co\u011frafyadaki onlarca \u00e7i\u00e7e\u011fin ad\u0131n\u0131 veya bir \u00e7i\u00e7e\u011fi tarif etmeyi \u00f6\u011frenirdi.<\/p>\n

Onlar\u0131 okuyan \u00e7ocuklar b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde sevgililerine o \u00e7i\u00e7eklerden bahsetseydi kime ne zarar\u0131 olurdu? Belki kad\u0131n-erkek ili\u015fkilerindeki hoyratl\u0131k da bu bilgisizlikten besleniyor.<\/p>\n

“\u00d6teki” i\u00e7in topyek\u00fbn iyile\u015fme<\/h2>\n

\u015eu anda gazeteciler, avukatlar, \u00f6\u011frenciler, siyasiler cezaevinde. Mevcut durumu nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> \u0130nsanlar d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcklerinden, yazd\u0131klar\u0131ndan \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc d\u00f6rt duvar aras\u0131nda olsun, olacak \u015fey mi? B\u00f6yle birbirimizi nas\u0131l anlayaca\u011f\u0131z? Kanunlar egemenlerden yana. Asl\u0131nda kanun ezilenden yana olmal\u0131. Zaten egemensin ve tepemdesin. Bir de kanunla tepeme \u00e7\u0131karsan bana ya\u015fama \u015fans\u0131 kalmaz.<\/p>\n

\u0130smail Be\u015fik\u00e7i\u2019yi y\u0131llarca hapiste \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fctt\u00fck. Kim kazand\u0131? Yine onun dedi\u011fi yere do\u011fru gidiyoruz.<\/p>\n

\u0130ktidar\u0131 anlamak da zor. Bir sene \u00f6nce bombalar, gencecik \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n \u00fczerine ya\u011fd\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131. \u00dc\u00e7 ay evvel Abdullah \u00d6calan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131 asmaktan bahsediliyordu. \u00d6calan \u015fimdi \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm orta\u011f\u0131. Biz neye inanal\u0131m? Ama yine de dilimizi bar\u0131\u015ftan ay\u0131rmamal\u0131y\u0131z.<\/p>\n

G\u00fcndemdeki bar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcrecini nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015e:<\/strong> Bar\u0131\u015ftan \u00e7ok T\u00fcrklerle-K\u00fcrtler aras\u0131nda ya\u015fanan bir kaos s\u00fcreci gibi geliyor bana. \u0130ki taraf da insanlar\u0131n kafas\u0131n\u0131 kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rmak i\u00e7in elinden geleni yap\u0131yor. Bir yandan bar\u0131\u015f konu\u015fuluyor, di\u011fer yandan bombalar ya\u011fmaya devam ediyor. \u00d6te yandan \u0130mral\u0131 tutanaklar\u0131n\u0131n iki g\u00fcn i\u00e7inde bas\u0131na s\u0131zmas\u0131 meselesi… Bas\u0131nda g\u00fcnlerce \u201cKim, niye s\u0131zd\u0131rd\u0131?\u201d diye konu\u015fuldu. Halbuki bar\u0131\u015f\u0131n kilidi olarak g\u00f6r\u00fclen Abdullah \u00d6calan\u2019\u0131n Yahudi, Rum ve Ermenilerle ilgili s\u00f6yledi\u011fi <\/a>sars\u0131c\u0131 \u015feyler var.<\/p>\n

Otuz y\u0131ll\u0131k sava\u015f\u0131n sonunda gelinen bu \u201cbar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcreci\u201dnde T\u00fcrk resmi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerinin y\u00fcz y\u0131ll\u0131k ezberlerinin K\u00fcrt versiyonlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00fcretildi\u011fini g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Bir iki c\u0131l\u0131z ses d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda K\u00fcrt siyaseti de dahil kimse de \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p bunlar yanl\u0131\u015ft\u0131r, \u00e7arp\u0131t\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r demedi\u2026<\/p>\n

T:<\/strong> T\u00fcm bunlar\u0131n yan\u0131 s\u0131ra en g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr mesele K\u00fcrt meselesi. Bu yay\u0131nevinde kitap basabiliyorsak, Agos \u00e7\u0131kabiliyorsa, bunun y\u00fcz\u00fc suyu h\u00fcrmetinedir.<\/p>\n

30 sene evvel bir Ermeni okulunun tuvaletinde sifon bozuldu\u011funda bile tamiri i\u00e7in sa\u011fa sola dilek\u00e7eler yaz\u0131l\u0131rd\u0131. Aksi halde tefti\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcrd\u00fc. Ne yapacakt\u0131k? O idareciler \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 bokun \u00fczerine mi oturtacakt\u0131?<\/p>\n

\u015eu anda iyile\u015fme var. Ama ezilen, \u00f6teki, yabanc\u0131 say\u0131lanlar i\u00e7in topyek\u00fbn iyile\u015fme laz\u0131m. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de K\u00fcrtlerin problemleri \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcl\u00fcrse, Ermenilerin, transseks\u00fcellerin, \u015fiddet g\u00f6ren kad\u0131nlar\u0131n da problemi \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcl\u00fcr. Zaten b\u00f6yle olmazsa o yara yine kanar.<\/p>\n

Sokakta horlanan transseks\u00fcelin derdi, benim derdim. Ermenili\u011finden \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc rahats\u0131zl\u0131k ya\u015fayan, Cumartesi Anneleri\u2019ni g\u00f6rmezlikten gelemez. Hi\u00e7bir \u015fey bana kadar olmamal\u0131. D\u00fcnyaya b\u00f6yle bakarsak iyi g\u00fcnler yak\u0131nd\u0131r.<\/p>\n

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Emel G\u00fclcan Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k’tan Tomasyan ve \u015eekeryan’la Gavur Mahallesi’nden diaspora yazarlar\u0131na Ermeni edebiyat\u0131na yolculuk yapt\u0131k; Ermeni edebiyat\u0131na giri\u015f i\u00e7in okuma listesi, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e edebiyata katk\u0131s\u0131… S\u0131rt\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 Taksim Meydan\u0131\u2019na verin, T\u00fcnel\u2019e y\u00fcr\u00fcy\u00fcn. Solunuzda H\u0131divyal Palas\u2019\u0131 g\u00f6receksiniz. Merdivenleri inince de kar\u015f\u0131n\u0131zda 20. ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131 kutlayan Aras Yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131k. 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