{"id":2207,"date":"2010-10-04T01:29:54","date_gmt":"2010-10-04T06:29:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=2207"},"modified":"2010-10-04T01:29:54","modified_gmt":"2010-10-04T06:29:54","slug":"yine-profesor-halacoglu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2010\/10\/04\/yine-profesor-halacoglu\/","title":{"rendered":"Yine Profes\u00f6r Hala\u00e7o\u011flu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Ahtamar Surp Ha\u00e7 Kilisesi ayini sonras\u0131, baz\u0131 ki\u015filerin kimliklerine H\u0131ristiyan yazd\u0131rmas\u0131 nedeniyle s\u00f6z konusu edilen M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015fan Ermeniler konusunda yine Eski Tarih Kurumu Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Profes\u00f6r Hala\u00e7o\u011flu g\u00fcndeme geldi. Uzun bir yaz\u0131da \u015f\u00f6yle diyor Hala\u00e7o\u011flu:<br \/>\n\u201c2007 y\u0131l\u0131nda Kayseri\u2019de Av\u015farlar sempozyumunda bir konu\u015fma yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Bu konu\u015fmamda, \u2018Kendisini K\u00fcrt ve hatta K\u00fcrt Alevi g\u00f6steren Ermeni D\u00f6nmeleri\u2019nden bahsetmi\u015ftim. Yer yerinden oynam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ve benim kafatas\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131m dahil s\u00f6ylenmedik s\u00f6z ve hakaret kalmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Konu \u00f6ylesine sunulmu\u015f ve \u00e7arp\u0131t\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ki, yarg\u0131s\u0131z infaza u\u011fram\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Halbuki gerek T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Ermeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 savunanlar, gerekse diaspora, Anadolu\u2019da ya\u015fayan Ermeniler nerede diye sormaktayd\u0131lar.\u00a0<br \/>\nS\u00f6zlerimde ne K\u00fcrtlere ne de Alevi vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131za hakaret vard\u0131. Ben, bir bilim adam\u0131 olarak nerede olduklar\u0131n\u0131 belgeyle a\u00e7\u0131klam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. O zamanki s\u00f6ylediklerimin t\u00fcm\u00fc Amerikan ar\u015fiv belgelerine dayanmaktayd\u0131 ve hatta isim ve k\u00f6y adlar\u0131na kadar bilgi bulunmaktayd\u0131. Ar\u015fiv belgesi Ermeni as\u0131ll\u0131 g\u00f6revliler taraf\u0131ndan haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ve raporun ad\u0131 da &#8220;Ermeni K\u00fcrtleri&#8221; ismini ta\u015f\u0131maktayd\u0131. Bu belgede hangi Ermeni cemaatinin hangi K\u00fcrt a\u015fireti ismini ald\u0131\u011f\u0131, bunlar\u0131n bulunduklar\u0131 yerler ile alt birimleri ve oturduklar\u0131 k\u00f6ylere kadar her \u015fey kaydedilmi\u015fti. Ama bana bu bilgileri nereden ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m hi\u00e7 sorulmad\u0131. Sadece neden konu\u015ftu\u011fum ve bunu a\u00e7\u0131klamakla \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131k yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m su\u00e7lamalar\u0131nda bulunuldu. Bug\u00fcn ne oldu da beni dara\u011fac\u0131na \u00e7ektikleri bir konuda rahat\u00e7a herkes binlerce Ermeni\u2019nin bu \u015fekilde M\u00fcsl\u00fcman kisvesi alt\u0131nda oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebilmekteler\u2026<br \/>\n&#8220;Mahalle bask\u0131s\u0131ndan kurtulduklar\u0131&#8221; iddias\u0131 tamamen safsata. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc o tarihte beni o b\u00f6lgeden arayan vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z bunlar\u0131n hepsini bildiklerini ifade etmi\u015flerdi ve ger\u00e7ekten de ba\u015fta Patrik Hazretleri olmak \u00fczere herkes kimlerin ve hangi k\u00f6ylerin bu \u015fekilde &#8220;kripto ermeni&#8221; oldu\u011funu bilmekteydi\u2026Benim tespitim bug\u00fcn en az\u0131ndan 500 bin Ermeni\u2019nin bu \u015fekilde bulundu\u011fudur.\u201d<sup>1<\/sup><br \/>\nSay\u0131n Hala\u00e7o\u011flu,\u00a0g\u00fcnah \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yor. \u00d6ncelikle bir bilim adam\u0131n\u0131n, ben K\u00fcrd\u00fcm, ben Ermeni\u2019yim diyene hay\u0131r sen T\u00fcrks\u00fcn demesi, kusura bakmas\u0131n ama kelimenin tam anlam\u0131yla \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131kt\u0131r. Nitekim bu durum\u00a0baz\u0131 bilim adamlar\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan da a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a dile getirmi\u015ftir:<br \/>\n\u201cTarih\u00e7i Dr. Mehmet Ali K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7bay: O laflar\u0131 e\u011fer o \u015fekilde s\u00f6ylediyse A\u2019dan Z\u2019ye yanl\u0131\u015f&#8230; K\u00f6ken hissetme meselesidir. Kimse k\u00f6kenini bilemez. Hele T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de 3-5 ki\u015fi bilebilir, ama uzak ge\u00e7mi\u015fi bilmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. T\u00fcrkiye bir harman. Adam kendisini K\u00fcrt hissediyorsa K\u00fcrt\u2019t\u00fcr, T\u00fcrk hissediyorsa T\u00fcrk\u2019t\u00fcr. K\u00fcrd\u00fcm dedi diye \u00f6ld\u00fcrecek misin? Kalk\u0131p \u2019sen K\u00fcrt de\u011filsin\u2019 demek kadar sa\u00e7ma bir \u015fey olamaz. Bunlar bir tarih\u00e7iye yak\u0131\u015fmayacak laflar.<br \/>\nSosyolog Do\u00e7. Dr. Suavi Ayd\u0131n (Hacettepe \u00dcniversitesi Antropoloji B\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc \u00d6\u011fretim \u00dcyesi): Anadolu\u2019nun karmakar\u0131\u015f\u0131k bir yap\u0131s\u0131 vard\u0131r. K\u00fcrtler i\u00e7inde T\u00fcrkmenlerden gelip K\u00fcrtle\u015fenler oldu\u011fu gibi, T\u00fcrkler i\u00e7inde de K\u00fcrtlerden gelip T\u00fcrkle\u015fenler olmu\u015ftur. K\u00f6kene bakarak etnisite hakk\u0131nda karar veremiyiz. Bunlar 19. y\u00fczy\u0131l tarih\u00e7ili\u011finde kald\u0131. Art\u0131k vazge\u00e7meleri gerekir.<br \/>\nProf. Bask\u0131n Oran: \u00d6nce Adem ile Havva\u2019n\u0131n, ard\u0131ndan da Lucy\u2019nin T\u00fcrk oldu\u011funu ilan etmenin zaman\u0131 geldi. (1974 y\u0131l\u0131nda Frans\u0131z Maurice Taieb ile Amerikal\u0131 paleontolog Donald Johnson\u2019un ekibinin Do\u011fu Afrika\u2019da Etiyopya\u2019n\u0131n Hadar b\u00f6lgesinde bulduklar\u0131 yakla\u015f\u0131k 4 milyon y\u0131l ya\u015f\u0131ndaki 105 cm boyundaki Australopithecus afarensis fosiline Lucy ad\u0131 verildi).\u201d<sup>2\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/sup>Profes\u00f6r Hala\u00e7o\u011flu, bunlar\u0131 s\u00f6ylerken, bir yandan baz\u0131 K\u00fcrtleri T\u00fcrk, K\u00fcrt Alevileri Ermeni ilan ediyor, di\u011fer yandan 1915 soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131nda \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclenlerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 azaltmak istiyor. 1915\u2019te \u00f6lenlerin say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 250.000\u2019lere kadar indirdi. Bu rakama Murat Bardak\u00e7\u0131 bile itiraz etti, Talat Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n an\u0131lar\u0131na bakarak en az 600.000 ki\u015fi \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr dedi. Ama bizim bilim adam\u0131m\u0131z bildi\u011finden \u015fa\u015fm\u0131yor. Anadolu\u2019da 500.000 d\u00f6nme Ermeni\u2019nin varl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan yola \u00e7\u0131karak \u00f6l\u00fc say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 azaltmak derdinde. Ancak burada bile rakamlarla oynand\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin son 100 y\u0131l\u0131na bakarsak, n\u00fcfus en az 5-6 kat atm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. E\u011fer 500.000 ki\u015fi 1915 y\u0131l\u0131nda d\u00f6nenlerin nesliyse, 1915\u2019te d\u00f6nenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 en \u00e7ok y\u00fcz bin olur. Yok, e\u011fer 1915\u2019te Anadolu\u2019da 500.000 ki\u015fi d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015f ve kalm\u0131\u015fsa bunlar\u0131n bu g\u00fcnk\u00fc say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n en az 2,5-3 milyon olmas\u0131 gerekirdi. Bir katliam\u0131n soyk\u0131r\u0131m olup olmamas\u0131n\u0131n say\u0131yla ilgisinin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 da ayr\u0131 bir ger\u00e7ek. Kald\u0131 ki Profes\u00f6r Hala\u00e7o\u011flu bununla da kalmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 o zaman. \u015eimdi o s\u00f6zlerini unutmu\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcnse de biz unutmad\u0131k. Ermenileri ter\u00f6rist ilan eden PKK\u2019n\u0131n %80\u2019i Ermenidir diyen sanki kendisi de\u011fil. A\u015fa\u011f\u0131daki s\u00f6zler de bu Say\u0131n Profes\u00f6re ait.\u00a0<br \/>\n\u201cKonya&#8217;da kat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir konferansta konu\u015fan Hala\u00e7o\u011flu, \u2018B\u00fct\u00fcn Anadolu, Do\u011fu ve G\u00fcneydo\u011fu Anadolu K\u00fcrt&#8217;m\u00fc\u015f gibi havaya girildi. Acaba T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de ne kadar K\u00fcrt var, biliniyor mu? \u0130sterseniz K\u00fcrt olmayan PKK&#8217;dan ba\u015flayay\u0131m. PKK y\u00fczde 80 itibariyle Ermeni\u2019 dedi.\u201d<sup>3<\/sup>\u00a0<br \/>\n\u201cBug\u00fcn K\u00fcrt olarak bilinen baz\u0131 a\u015firetlerin, hatta ve hatta tehcirden kurtulmak i\u00e7in kendilerini K\u00fcrt-Alevi olarak g\u00f6steren Ermenilerin de bulundu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemem gerekir. PKK\u2019n\u0131n ve T\u0130KKO\u2019nun i\u00e7inde yer alan bir\u00e7ok insan da. Bu a\u00e7\u0131dan bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda bizim zannetti\u011fimiz gibi PKK veya T\u0130KKO hareketinin de bir K\u00fcrt hareketi oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyemeyiz. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar\u0131 yabanc\u0131 ar\u015fiv belgeleri o tarihte yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f birtak\u0131m ara\u015ft\u0131rmalardan s\u00f6yledi\u011fimi belirtmek isterim&#8221;<sup>4\u00a0<br \/>\n<\/sup>Y\u0131llardan beri benzer iddialara yer verildi. B\u00fcy\u00fck bir talihsizlik eseri olarak, bir bakan Cemil \u00c7i\u00e7ek baz\u0131 ter\u00f6ristlerin s\u00fcnnetsiz oldu\u011fundan yola \u00e7\u0131karak PKK ile Ermenileri \u00f6zde\u015fle\u015ftirdi. Garip olan her s\u00fcnnetsiz ter\u00f6ristin Ermeni kabul edilmesinin yan\u0131nda, d\u00fcnya n\u00fcfusunun s\u00fcnnetsiz olan en az yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n da Ermeni ilan edilmesi (!)\u00a0<br \/>\nBurada bir ba\u015fka gariplik de \u015fu, devlet ve Hala\u00e7o\u011flu madem tek tek b\u00fct\u00fcn ter\u00f6ristleri biliyor, neden a\u00e7\u0131klay\u0131p rahatlam\u0131yorlar. \u015eu s\u00f6z etti\u011fi ABD belgelerini de bir a\u00e7\u0131klas\u0131n da, o g\u00fcn\u00fcn imkanlar\u0131yla ev ev, b\u00f6lge b\u00f6lge hangi ailelerin d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6relim. Hala\u00e7o\u011flu tek tek bu ter\u00f6ristlere kaynak olan aileleri bildi\u011fine g\u00f6re bunlar\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamamas\u0131, ter\u00f6re destek ve yatakl\u0131k olur. Madem biliniyor b\u00fct\u00fcn destek\u00e7i Ermeniler devlet bunlar\u0131 yakalar cezaland\u0131r\u0131r ve bu i\u015f biter. Bu g\u00fcne kadar \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclen, yakalanan ya da teslim olan 30- 40 bin PKK ve T\u0130KKO mensuplar\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7inde ka\u00e7 Ermeni bulunmu\u015ftur, bulunmu\u015fsa neden a\u00e7\u0131klanmaz. Yok, bulunmam\u0131\u015fsa ortada bir yalan var demektir. Kald\u0131 ki, \u00f6rne\u011fin El Kaide\u2019nin i\u00e7inde birka\u00e7 T\u00fcrk bulunmas\u0131, nas\u0131l El Kaide\u2019yi T\u00fcrk ter\u00f6r\u00fc yapmazsa, ayn\u0131 nedenle, PKK ya da T\u0130KKO i\u00e7inde birka\u00e7 Ermeni\u2019nin bulunmas\u0131 da bu \u00f6rg\u00fctlerin Ermeni \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fc yapmaz.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Sonu\u00e7 olarak, Profes\u00f6r Hala\u00e7o\u011flu\u2019nun yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131kt\u0131r. Zorla, korkuyla ve ya\u015famak i\u00e7in din de\u011fi\u015ftiren, zorla evlendirilen insanlar\u0131 ter\u00f6rist ve ter\u00f6r\u00fcn kayna\u011f\u0131 ilan etmek en az\u0131ndan insafs\u0131zl\u0131kt\u0131r. PKK\u2019n\u0131n ve T\u0130KKO\u2019nun %80\u2019nin Ermeni oldu\u011fu da do\u011frudan do\u011fruya bir bilim adam\u0131na yak\u0131\u015fmayan bir yanl\u0131\u015f ve bir manip\u00fclasyondur. PKK\u2019n\u0131n ve T\u0130KKO\u2019nun %80\u2019ninin Ermeni oldu\u011fu iddias\u0131, ayn\u0131 zamanda T\u00fcrk Ceza kanununa g\u00f6re de halk\u0131 Ermenilere kar\u015f\u0131 kin ve d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011fa alenen tahrik etme su\u00e7udur.<sup>5<\/sup>\u00a0<br \/>\n<em>1)<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.haberakademi.net\/haberyaz.asp?hbr=12142\"><em>http:\/\/www.haberakademi.net\/haberyaz.asp?hbr=12142<\/em><\/a><em>\u00a0<br \/>\n2)http:\/\/www.avsarobasi.com\/forum\/index.php?action=printpage;topic=18030.0<br \/>\n3)http:\/\/www.haber3.com\/pkknin-yuzde-80i-ermeni&#8211;563161h.htm<br \/>\n4)http:\/\/www.mustafaaksoy.com\/default.asp?inc=makale&amp;id=36<br \/>\n5)Madde 216 &#8211; (1) Halk\u0131n sosyal s\u0131n\u0131f, \u0131rk, din, mezhep veya b\u00f6lge bak\u0131m\u0131ndan farkl\u0131 \u00f6zelliklere sahip bir kesimini, di\u011fer bir kesimi aleyhine kin ve d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011fa alenen tahrik eden kimse, bu nedenle kamu g\u00fcvenli\u011fi a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan a\u00e7\u0131k ve yak\u0131n bir tehlikenin ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131 halinde, bir y\u0131ldan \u00fc\u00e7 y\u0131la kadar hapis cezas\u0131 ile cezaland\u0131r\u0131l\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>Sevgiler.<br \/>\nMurat Bebiro\u011flu<br \/>\nmurat.bebir@gmail.com <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>ID:724<br \/>\nTarih:30.9.2010<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>http:\/\/www.hyetert.com\/yazi3.asp?s=3&amp;Id=724&amp;DilId=1<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ahtamar Surp Ha\u00e7 Kilisesi ayini sonras\u0131, baz\u0131 ki\u015filerin kimliklerine H\u0131ristiyan yazd\u0131rmas\u0131 nedeniyle s\u00f6z konusu edilen M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015fan Ermeniler konusunda yine Eski Tarih Kurumu Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Profes\u00f6r Hala\u00e7o\u011flu g\u00fcndeme geldi. Uzun bir yaz\u0131da \u015f\u00f6yle diyor Hala\u00e7o\u011flu: \u201c2007 y\u0131l\u0131nda Kayseri\u2019de Av\u015farlar sempozyumunda bir konu\u015fma yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Bu konu\u015fmamda, \u2018Kendisini K\u00fcrt ve hatta K\u00fcrt Alevi g\u00f6steren Ermeni D\u00f6nmeleri\u2019nden bahsetmi\u015ftim. 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