{"id":21829,"date":"2013-02-20T02:33:14","date_gmt":"2013-02-20T07:33:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=21829"},"modified":"2013-02-20T02:33:14","modified_gmt":"2013-02-20T07:33:14","slug":"imraliyi-ayrintili-bilen-sayisi-5i-gecmez","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/02\/20\/imraliyi-ayrintili-bilen-sayisi-5i-gecmez\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;\u0130mral\u0131&#8217;y\u0131 ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bilen say\u0131s\u0131 5&#8217;i ge\u00e7mez"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=21830\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-21830\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-21830\" alt=\"TBMM BASKANI CEMIL CICEK\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/Cemil-\u00c7i\u00e7ek-300x203.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"203\" \/><\/a>\u0130mral\u0131 s\u00fcreci ve yeni anayasa \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 Radikal&#8217;e de\u011ferlendiren Meclis Ba\u015fkan\u0131 \u00c7i\u00e7ek, \u00d6calan&#8217;la g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler hakk\u0131nda muhalefete yeni bir bilgilendirme mekanizmas\u0131 kurulabilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Meclis Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Cemil \u00c7i\u00e7ek, Abdullah \u00d6calan\u2019la g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler konusunda muhalefetin bilgilendirilmesi i\u00e7in yeni bir mekanizma kurulabilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. \u201cS\u00fcreci ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bilenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 be\u015fi ge\u00e7mez. Elbette halk\u0131n bilgi sahibi olmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Ama ne zaman bilgi sahibi olaca\u011f\u0131, s\u00fcrece zarar vermeden iyi dengelenmelidir\u201d diyen \u00c7i\u00e7ek, iktidar ve muhalefete, \u201cBirbirimizle konu\u015fmam\u0131za engel ne var? Mekanizmas\u0131 yerle\u015fik hukukumuzda da var. Yetmiyorsa yeni mekanizmalar kurulabilir\u201d diye seslendi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.radikal.com.tr\">Radikal<\/a> \u2019in sorular\u0131n\u0131 cevapland\u0131ran Cemil \u00c7i\u00e7ek, yeni anayasa ile \u0130mral\u0131 s\u00fcrecinin ili\u015fkilendirilmesinin s\u00fcrece olumlu katk\u0131 vermeyece\u011fini vurgulad\u0131. Anayasa Uzla\u015fma Komisyonu\u2019nda yer alan d\u00f6rt siyasi partinin her birinin hassasiyetlerinin farkl\u0131 oldu\u011funu ifade eden \u00c7i\u00e7ek, \u201cB\u00f6yle bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 (\u0130mral\u0131) olmasa yeni bir anayasaya ihtiya\u00e7 yok muydu? Anayasa ihtiyac\u0131 olmasa bile ter\u00f6r\u00fc sonland\u0131rmak gerekmiyor mu? Ter\u00f6r bizim sorunumuz, biz \u00e7\u00f6zece\u011fiz. Senin evinin i\u00e7indeki karga\u015fay\u0131, s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131y\u0131 ba\u015fkalar\u0131 gelip \u00e7\u00f6zmez\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u201c\u0130ki ki\u015fi de olursak \u2018biz\u2019 olur, \u00fc\u00e7 ki\u015fi olursak da \u2018biz\u2019 olur, 50 milyon ki\u015fi de \u2018biz\u2019 olur. Bu \u2018biz\u2019i olabildi\u011fince geni\u015fleterek soruna kafa yormam\u0131z laz\u0131m. Al\u0131nm\u0131\u015f, al\u0131nacak tedbirleri birlikte olgunla\u015ft\u0131rmam\u0131z laz\u0131m. Bu konuda kimin ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesi varsa ortaya koyup istifade edilebilir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flere d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrmemiz laz\u0131m\u201d diyen \u00c7i\u00e7ek, \u015fu mesajlar\u0131 verdi:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.radikal.com.tr\/index\/Turkiye\"><strong>T\u00dcRK\u0130YE<\/strong><\/a><strong> BU \u0130\u015e\u0130 \u00c7OK FAZLA UZATAMAZ:<\/strong> \u00d6zellikle Suriye\u2019deki, Irak\u2019taki, \u0130ran\u2019daki hareketlilikleri de hesaba katt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda T\u00fcrkiye bu i\u015fi \u00e7ok fazla da uzatamaz. Burada dikkat edilmesi gereken \u015fey \u015fu: Hava raporu gibi her saat ba\u015f\u0131 bu s\u00fcre\u00e7le ilgili ilgililerden rapor, beyanat istiyorsunuz. Samimi olarak \u015funu s\u00f6yleyeyim: Ben dahil, bu s\u00fcre\u00e7le ilgili bir alay adam a\u00e7\u0131klama yap\u0131yor. S\u00fcreci ayr\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131yla bilenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 be\u015f ki\u015fiyi ge\u00e7mez. Geri kalanlar zorlanarak, mikrofon uzat\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in bir \u015fey demek mecburiyetinde kal\u0131yor. \u0130\u015fin sorumlulu\u011funu ta\u015f\u0131yanlar, bilmesi gerekenlere elbette bilgi verir, vermelidir. Belki bilmesi gerekenlerin bilebilece\u011fi tarzda bu i\u015fler g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fclmeli. Sonradan kamuoyuna yeri geldi\u011finde de a\u00e7\u0131klama yap\u0131lmal\u0131d\u0131r. Bat\u0131\u2019daki uygulamalar da b\u00f6yle olmu\u015ftur.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>MA\u011eDURLAR \u00dcZ\u00dcLMEMEL\u0130:<\/strong> Elbette halk\u0131n bilgi sahibi olmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Ama ne zaman bilgi sahibi olaca\u011f\u0131, s\u00fcrece zarar vermeden iyi dengelenmelidir, iyi ayarlanmal\u0131d\u0131r. Aksi takdirde her kafadan bir ses \u00e7\u0131kar. Ma\u011fdur olmu\u015f \u00e7ok geni\u015f de bir \u00e7evre var. Onlar\u0131 \u00fczersiniz, kafalar\u0131n\u0131 kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131rs\u0131n\u0131z. Onlar\u0131n devlete, \u00fclkeyi y\u00f6netenlere g\u00fcvenini sarsars\u0131n\u0131z. O konuma da getirmemek laz\u0131m. Ne kadar \u00e7ok konu\u015fulursa o kadar \u00e7ok kafa karga\u015fas\u0131 olur.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>MEKAN\u0130ZMALARI VAR:<\/strong> (Muhalefetin \u0130mral\u0131 s\u00fcrecine destek vermek i\u00e7in bilgi istedi\u011finin hat\u0131rlat\u0131lmas\u0131 \u00fczerine) Onun mekanizmalar\u0131 vard\u0131r. Bu bilgiler verilebilir, verilmez de. \u00c7ok zor bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Kendileri talep eder, ziyaret edebilirler. H\u00fck\u00fcmet kendisi gider, ilgili bakan\u0131, b\u00fcrokrat\u0131 g\u00f6revlendirir. Nitekim ge\u00e7mi\u015fte bunun somut \u00f6rnekleri de var.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>M\u0130T M\u00dcSTE\u015eARI B\u0130LG\u0130 VERM\u0130\u015eT\u0130:<\/strong> Say\u0131n M\u0130T M\u00fcste\u015far\u0131 iki siyasi partimize bilgi verdi. Say\u0131n Ba\u015fbakan, ben ba\u015fbakan yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131yken partileri ziyaret etmek istedi ama <a href=\"http:\/\/www.radikal.com.tr\/index\/Cumhuriyet-Halk-Partisi\">CHP<\/a> ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015febildi. Benim oldu\u011fum g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmede \u2018Bu konuda ilave bilgi gerekiyorsa arkada\u015f g\u00f6revlendirebilirsiniz. Biz size her zaman bu bilgiyi verebiliriz\u2019 diye niyet beyan\u0131nda da bulunuldu. \u0130lla vermeyi beklememek laz\u0131m. Bu taraf verebilir, \u00f6b\u00fcr taraf da isteyebilir. Daha dar kapsaml\u0131 olabilir. Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131\u2019n\u0131n ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131nda bir araya gelinebilir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>PROTOKOL GEREKMEZ:<\/strong> B\u00f6ylesine can yak\u0131c\u0131 bir meselede \u00f6yle \u00e7ok da fazla protokoler olmay\u0131 da \u015fahsen do\u011fru bulmam. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc kim ad\u0131m atarsa hepimiz kazan\u00e7l\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131z. Onun i\u00e7in mekanizmalar\u0131 yoksa bile kurmal\u0131y\u0131z. \u00c7ok net s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum. Diyelim ki bug\u00fcn yanl\u0131\u015f yapt\u0131k da bir mekanizma kurmad\u0131k, bu bilgi al\u0131\u015fveri\u015fini temin edecek. Diyelim ki katk\u0131 verme mekanizmalar\u0131n\u0131 \u015fu ana kadar kurmad\u0131k. Bundan sonra kurabiliriz. Herkes herkesle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor. Neden biz birbirimizle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fm\u00fcyoruz? Bibirimizle konu\u015fmam\u0131za engel olan ne var? Ad\u0131m atan vatanda\u015ftan da takdir toplar. Mekanizmas\u0131 yerle\u015fik hukukumuzda da var, ge\u00e7mi\u015f uygulamalarda da var. Yetmiyorsa yeni mekanizmalar kurulabilir. Bunu bulabiliriz, bulmal\u0131y\u0131z da. Zor bir s\u00fcre\u00e7tir. Ama a\u015f\u0131lmaz zorluklar da de\u011fil.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b>\u2018\u0130MRALI VE ANAYASA \u0130L\u0130\u015eK\u0130L\u0130 DE\u011e\u0130L\u2019 <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Cemil \u00c7i\u00e7ek, yeni anayasa ile \u0130mral\u0131 s\u00fcrecinin ili\u015fkilendirilmesini do\u011fru bulmuyor: B\u00f6yle bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 olmasa yeni anayasaya ihtiyac\u0131m\u0131z yok muydu? Anayasa ihtiyac\u0131 olmasa bile ter\u00f6r\u00fc sonland\u0131rmak gerekmiyor mu?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"mailto:tarik.isik@radikal.com.tr\" target=\"_blank\"><i>TARIK I\u015eIK<\/i><\/a><i> &#8211; <\/i><a href=\"mailto:tarik.isik@radikal.com.tr\" target=\"_blank\"><i>tarik.isik@radikal.com.tr<\/i><\/a><i><br \/>\n<\/i><a href=\"mailto:rifat.basaran@radikal.com.tr\" target=\"_blank\"><i>R\u0130FAT BA\u015eARAN<\/i><\/a><i> &#8211; <\/i><a href=\"mailto:rifat.basaran@radikal.com.tr\" target=\"_blank\"><i>rifat.basaran@radikal.com.tr<\/i><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.radikal.com.tr\/Radikal.aspx?aType=RadikalDetayV3&amp;ArticleID=1121962&amp;CategoryID=77<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0130mral\u0131 s\u00fcreci ve yeni anayasa \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 Radikal&#8217;e de\u011ferlendiren Meclis Ba\u015fkan\u0131 \u00c7i\u00e7ek, \u00d6calan&#8217;la g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler hakk\u0131nda muhalefete yeni bir bilgilendirme mekanizmas\u0131 kurulabilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Meclis Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Cemil \u00c7i\u00e7ek, Abdullah \u00d6calan\u2019la g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler konusunda muhalefetin bilgilendirilmesi i\u00e7in yeni bir mekanizma kurulabilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. \u201cS\u00fcreci ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bilenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 be\u015fi ge\u00e7mez. Elbette halk\u0131n bilgi sahibi olmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. 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