{"id":21624,"date":"2013-02-07T02:42:35","date_gmt":"2013-02-07T07:42:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=21624"},"modified":"2013-02-07T02:42:35","modified_gmt":"2013-02-07T07:42:35","slug":"kurtlere-sorulsa-cogu-ayri-devlet-istiyorum-diyecek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/02\/07\/kurtlere-sorulsa-cogu-ayri-devlet-istiyorum-diyecek\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018K\u00fcrtlere sorulsa, \u00e7o\u011fu ayr\u0131 devlet istiyorum diyecek\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><b><i><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=21625\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-21625\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-21625\" alt=\"K\u00fcrtlere sorulsa\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/K\u00fcrtlere-sorulsa-300x215.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"215\" \/><\/a>BDP E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Selahattin Demirta\u015f, \u201c\u015eu soru K\u00fcrtlere sorulabilse, art\u0131k pek \u00e7o\u011fu ayr\u0131 bir devlette ya\u015famak istiyorum diyecektir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu devletin T\u00fcrk\u2019e ait oldu\u011fu, b\u00fct\u00fcn kurumlar\u0131n, imk\u00e2nlar\u0131n T\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fc geli\u015ftirmek i\u00e7in kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, geri kalan kesimlere sus pay\u0131 da\u011f\u0131t\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, susmayanlara da sopa politikas\u0131n\u0131n uyguland\u0131\u011f\u0131 K\u00fcrtler taraf\u0131ndan art\u0131k \u00e7ok net hissediliyor\u201d dedi.<\/i><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>ROBER KOPTA\u015e<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><em>\u00dcst d\u00fczey devlet g\u00f6revlilerinin PKK lideri Abdullah \u00d6calan\u2019la yeni g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve PKK\u2019n\u0131n silah b\u0131rakmas\u0131 i\u00e7in m\u00fczakereler y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc haberlerinin bas\u0131nda \u00e7ok\u00e7a yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00fcnlerde TBMM\u2019de BDP e\u015f ba\u015fkan\u0131 Selahattin Demirta\u015f\u2019\u0131n konu\u011fu olduk. Demirta\u015f, m\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecinden beklentileri, K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7inde bulundu\u011fu haletiruhiye ve K\u00fcrt hareketinin Ermeni sorununda ge\u00e7mi\u015fle y\u00fczle\u015fmek i\u00e7in yapmas\u0131 gerekenleri anlatt\u0131.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Son g\u00fcnlerde ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan \u00d6calan-M\u0130T g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeleri hakk\u0131nda BDP olarak ne biliyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Somut bilgiye dayal\u0131 konu\u015famam, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc h\u00fck\u00fcmetin bu s\u00fcre\u00e7te bizimle payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir bilgi yok. Maalesef biz de medyadan takip ediyoruz. Ancak, b\u00f6yle bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme varsa, elbette ki \u00f6nemsiyoruz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ba\u015flayan s\u00fcreci m\u00fczakere olarak de\u011ferlendiriyor musunuz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">M\u00fczakerenin ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 a\u015famas\u0131 olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Say\u0131n \u00d6calan ile heyetlerin g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeye ba\u015flamas\u0131 en \u00f6nemli ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 ad\u0131m\u0131d\u0131r. Bunun \u00fcst\u00fcne biz, s\u00fcreci nas\u0131l derinle\u015ftirebiliriz, nas\u0131l sorumluluk alabiliriz, BDP olarak bunu tart\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u0130mral\u0131, Kandil, \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn Avrupa aya\u011f\u0131 derken sanki BDP bu tip d\u00f6nemlerde s\u00fcre\u00e7 d\u0131\u015f\u0131 kal\u0131yor. Halbuki siyaset de burada, siz Ankara\u2019das\u0131n\u0131z, Meclis&#8217;tesiniz\u2026 Oynayabilece\u011finiz daha etkin bir rol yok mu?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u00c7ok \u00f6yle d\u0131\u015fland\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z filan yok. D\u0131\u015far\u0131dan b\u00f6yle de\u011ferlendirmeler olabilir ama taraflar bizi d\u0131\u015flama e\u011filiminde de\u011filler. Kap\u0131lar\u0131n bize kapal\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyoruz. Tam da bu ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7 a\u015famada katk\u0131da bulunabiliriz. Nas\u0131l olabilir? Kamuoyunun haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131, deste\u011fin sa\u011flanmas\u0131\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bunun i\u00e7in gereken ne?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">H\u00fck\u00fcmetin daha a\u00e7\u0131k ve \u015feffaf olmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Sadece bize kar\u015f\u0131 de\u011fil, t\u00fcm kamuoyuna kar\u015f\u0131\u2026 Biz m\u00fczakere s\u00fcre\u00e7lerinde her \u015feyin a\u00e7\u0131klanamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyoruz. Ama belli \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fclerde a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131k da \u015fart. \u00d6yle olursa BDP de rol\u00fcn\u00fc oynayabilir. Ayr\u0131ca, kulland\u0131klar\u0131 dil ve \u00fcslup kesinlikle s\u00fcrecin ilerlemesine katk\u0131 sunan bir tarzda de\u011fil. Bunun de\u011fi\u015fmesi zaruridir. BDP s\u00fcrecin ilerlemesi i\u00e7in yeni bir dilin olu\u015fturulmas\u0131 i\u00e7in katk\u0131ya haz\u0131r.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu konuda size de ele\u015ftiriler var. Zaman zaman sizin s\u00f6yleminiz de sertle\u015fiyor.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Bu ele\u015ftirilere bazen hak verebiliriz. Ama madem ki h\u00fck\u00fcmet bu s\u00fcreci derinle\u015ftirmek istiyor, biz katk\u0131 sunar\u0131z. Yeter ki ciddiyet ve samimiyet g\u00f6relim.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Kamuoyunu haz\u0131rlamak dediniz. Bence, BDP\u2019ye K\u00fcrt taraf\u0131ndan \u00e7ok T\u00fcrk taraf\u0131n\u0131 haz\u0131rlamak bak\u0131m\u0131ndan tarihsel bir rol d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor. T\u00fcrk toplumuyla nas\u0131l daha sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 diyalog kurabilece\u011finiz konusunu tart\u0131\u015f\u0131yor musunuz?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Hakl\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc K\u00fcrt kamuoyu bar\u0131\u015fa haz\u0131r. Ama s\u00f6yledi\u011finizi sadece BDP&#8217;nin \u00fcst\u00fcne y\u0131kmak do\u011fru olmaz. Bu her \u015feyden \u00f6nce T\u00fcrk kamuoyunu bu hale getirenlerin sorumlulu\u011fu. Yani bug\u00fcne kadarki b\u00fct\u00fcn sistem partilerinin. K\u00fcrtlere ve b\u00fct\u00fcn \u00f6tekilere kar\u015f\u0131 ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 yayan dil, bar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcre\u00e7lerine kar\u015f\u0131 kullan\u0131lan dil&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Kabaca \u201cT\u00fcrk sorunu\u201d olarak nitelendirebilece\u011fimiz sorundan s\u00f6z ediyorsunuz.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Tabii. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar\u0131 tek ba\u015f\u0131na BDP d\u00fczeltemez. H\u00fck\u00fcmetin de bunun i\u00e7in \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 gerekir.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ne yapmal\u0131 h\u00fck\u00fcmet bu konuda?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Medya h\u00fck\u00fcmetin kontrol\u00fcnde. Medyadaki BDP sans\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn kald\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. H\u00fck\u00fcmetin art\u0131k hi\u00e7bir kuruma BDP\u2018lileri \u00e7\u0131karmayacaks\u0131n\u0131z dememesi laz\u0131m. \u0130kincisi de, h\u00fck\u00fcmetin bize kar\u015f\u0131 kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131, siyasi bir lince d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fen dilden vazge\u00e7mesi laz\u0131m.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Zor bir soru oldu\u011funu biliyorum, ama \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcme giden yol haritan\u0131z nas\u0131l bir harita olurdu?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u00c7ok zor ger\u00e7ekten. Zor, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc, tek ba\u015f\u0131na bizim i\u015fimiz de\u011fil. B\u00fct\u00fcn akt\u00f6rlerin ortakla\u015fabilece\u011fi bir harita olmal\u0131. Ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i olmal\u0131, hayallere dayanmamal\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i tabirini kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in soruyorum: Tek tarafl\u0131 \u00f6zerklik ilan\u0131 gibi ad\u0131mlar\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fczde, yak\u0131n ge\u00e7mi\u015fe dair bir \u00f6zele\u015ftiriniz var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u00d6yle tek tek olaylar baz\u0131nda \u00f6zele\u015ftiri de\u011ferlendirilebilir belki ama biz s\u00fcreci bozan tarzda a\u00e7\u0131klamalar i\u00e7inde olmad\u0131k genel olarak. As\u0131l s\u00fcre\u00e7ler bozuldu\u011fu i\u00e7in biz tav\u0131r koyduk.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 M\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecinin sonucunda neyin ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmesini arzu ediyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">M\u00fczakereler sorunlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n demokratik siyasetle \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcne imkan vermeli. Sorunlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 t\u00fcmden \u00e7\u00f6zmeyebilir, ama en az\u0131ndan orta vadede demokratik siyasetle \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcne imkan vermeli.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Anayasa\u2019n\u0131n bu konuda kilit bir rol oynayabilece\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor musunuz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">D\u0131\u015far\u0131da uzla\u015fma olursa uzla\u015fma komisyonuna yans\u0131r; \u015fu anda o uzla\u015fma yok. D\u00f6rt parti d\u00f6rt ayr\u0131 k\u00f6\u015fede duruyor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Partiler aras\u0131 ikili-\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc ittifaklar geli\u015febilir mi?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Bu kap\u0131lar\u0131 bence kapatmamak laz\u0131m.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 K\u00fcrt siyasetinin Anayasa\u2019da stat\u00fc ve \u00f6zerklik \u0131srar\u0131 vard\u0131. Ama bu meseleleri mevcut mekanizmalar i\u00e7inde \u00e7\u00f6zmek \u00e7ok kolay g\u00f6r\u00fcnm\u00fcyor. Esneklik g\u00f6sterecek misiniz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Bu meseleler partimizin siyasi program\u0131d\u0131r. Bunlar\u0131 hangi takvimle hayata ge\u00e7irebilece\u011fimizi ise kestirmek zor. Meselenin bir de silahl\u0131 m\u00fccadele ve \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma boyutu var. Bunlar silah\u0131 elinde bulunduranlar\u0131n da talebidir. PKK&#8217;ye silah b\u0131rakt\u0131rmak isteyenler, \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn bu taleplerini de tart\u0131\u015fmaya a\u00e7acaklarsa, bu \u00f6nemli bir geli\u015fme olur.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkler ve K\u00fcrtler aras\u0131ndaki kopman\u0131n son raddeye geldi\u011fine dair kayg\u0131lar giderek g\u00fc\u00e7leniyor. Siz bu konuda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Eskiye g\u00f6re kopma daha b\u00fcy\u00fck. \u015eu soru K\u00fcrtlere sorulabilse, pek \u00e7o\u011fu ayr\u0131 bir devlette ya\u015famak istiyorum diyecektir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu devletin T\u00fcrk\u2019e ait oldu\u011fu, devletin b\u00fct\u00fcn kurumlar\u0131n\u0131n, imk\u00e2nlar\u0131n\u0131n T\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fc geli\u015ftirmek i\u00e7in kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, geri kalan kesimlere sus pay\u0131 da\u011f\u0131t\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, susmayanlara da sopa politikas\u0131n\u0131n uyguland\u0131\u011f\u0131 K\u00fcrtler taraf\u0131ndan art\u0131k \u00e7ok net hissediliyor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu noktadan sonra geriye d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f nas\u0131l olacak?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">T\u00fcrk devleti art\u0131k K\u00fcrtler ad\u0131na tek ba\u015f\u0131na y\u00f6netim yetkisini kullanamaz. Ya bir \u00f6zerk y\u00f6netim hakk\u0131 verecek, ya bir b\u00f6lgesel y\u00f6netim verecek ya da K\u00fcrtler ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olmak istiyorlarsa, oturup T\u00fcrklerle birlikte, kan d\u00f6kmeden konu\u015farak bu i\u015fi \u00e7\u00f6zecekler. Bizim arzumuz ortak s\u0131n\u0131rlar i\u00e7inde egemenli\u011fin payla\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131d\u0131r. Burada BDP ya da KCK kendine ait bir b\u00f6lge istiyor sonucu \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131n, \u00f6zerk b\u00f6lgelerde b\u00fct\u00fcn partiler se\u00e7ime girmekte \u00f6zg\u00fcrd\u00fcr, b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnyada da b\u00f6yle bu.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu, Bat\u0131 demokrasileri a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan do\u011fal bir kabul ama T\u00fcrkiye i\u00e7in \u015fu anda l\u00fcks g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. BDP talep ve \u00f6nerilerini T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye anlatmak a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan eksik kalm\u0131yor mu?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Bu konudaki eksikliklerimizi kabul ederiz. Ama unutmayal\u0131m ki son \u00fc\u00e7 y\u0131ld\u0131r h\u00fck\u00fcmetin ter\u00f6r\u00fc alt\u0131nda inim inim inleyen bir BDP, on bin \u00fcyesi tutuklanm\u0131\u015f bir BDP var. Bu kadar \u00f6nyarg\u0131yla bo\u011fu\u015fan bir BDP ortalama T\u00fcrk&#8217;e ne anlatabilir?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 K\u00fcrtlerin ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k talebinin T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de \u015fu ortamda kabul g\u00f6rmeyece\u011fi a\u015fikar. Silah her daim masan\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcndeyken, bu talebin \u00e7ok daha fazla kan d\u00f6k\u00fclecek bir bo\u011fazla\u015fmaya yol a\u00e7ma ihtimali \u00fcrk\u00fct\u00fcc\u00fc de\u011fil mi?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Elbette ki \u00f6yle. Umar\u0131m b\u00f6yle bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 ya\u015famay\u0131z. K\u00fcrtlerin hak kazanma konusunda tek yolu silah da olmamal\u0131. Suriye&#8217;de ortal\u0131k kan g\u00f6l\u00fcne d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015fken K\u00fcrtler silahs\u0131z bir \u015fekilde g\u00fc\u00e7 kazand\u0131lar. Bizim \u00f6ncelikli yolumuz elbette ki kans\u0131z, silahs\u0131z y\u00f6ntemdir. Ben ileride ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k olsun demiyorum ama K\u00fcrtler i\u00e7in ba\u015fka \u00e7are yoksa da, K\u00fcrtler b\u00fct\u00fcn halklar gibi kendi kaderini tayin etme hakk\u0131na sahiptir.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu nas\u0131l olacak?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">B\u00f6yle bir \u015fey referandumla olsun isterim \u015fahsen. \u0130nsanlara siz bu b\u00f6lgenin nas\u0131l olmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyorsunuz diye sorsunlar. Benim arzulayaca\u011f\u0131m y\u00f6ntem budur.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Tam da ger\u00e7ek\u00e7ilik konusuna yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z vurguya ters d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fcyor mu bu? T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u015fu anda b\u00f6yle bir ortam yok. T\u00fcrkler b\u00f6yle bir \u015feye ikna olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 m\u00fcddet\u00e7e neler ya\u015fanaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 konu\u015fmuyor muyuz as\u0131l olarak?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Hakl\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. Ama bu soruyu b\u00f6lgede, K\u00fcrdistan\u2019da ya\u015fayan insanlara sormam\u0131z gerekiyor, Bursa\u2019da, Antalya\u2019da ya\u015fayanlara de\u011fil.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi o olgunlu\u011fa getirebilecek ad\u0131mlar\u0131 atmak siyasetin i\u015fi de\u011fil mi?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Elbette. Bu se\u00e7ene\u011fin g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc olmas\u0131 bile sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc i\u00e7in \u00e7ok kolayla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131c\u0131 olur. Belki hi\u00e7 referanduma gerek kalmadan birlikte ya\u015fam se\u00e7ene\u011fi h\u00e2kim olur.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Birka\u00e7 defa Roboski katliam\u0131yla ilgili emrin Ba\u015fbakan\u2019dan gitti\u011fini s\u00f6ylediniz. Bu iddian\u0131z bir kan\u0131ta\u00a0 dayan\u0131yor mu?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Hay\u0131r. Kan\u0131t olsa bunu savc\u0131l\u0131\u011fa vermekten \u00e7ekinmeyiz. Ama g\u00fcvenilir kaynaklardan duyumlar\u0131m\u0131z var. Bizimki bir iddiad\u0131r, savc\u0131lar soru\u015fturmal\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><b>Ermeni meselesi \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmezse K\u00fcrt meselesi de \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmez<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 K\u00fcrt toplumu 1915&#8217;te ya\u015fananlar\u0131 T\u00fcrklere nazaran daha iyi biliyor. Ge\u00e7en y\u0131l Osman Baydemir, \u201cBiz Hamidiye alaylar\u0131ndaki dedelerimizi de\u011fil, Ermenileri koruyan dedelerimizin miras\u0131n\u0131 kabul ediyoruz\u201d dedi. Ama bu tutum BDP a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bir politika haline gelmi\u015f de\u011fil. Oysa bu \u00fclkede ya\u015fayan hemen herkesi ma\u011fdur eden sistemin sacayaklardan biri 1915 soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131. Bu konu K\u00fcrt siyaseti i\u00e7inde konu\u015fulmuyor mu, \u00f6nemsenmiyor mu, yoksa K\u00fcrt sosyolojisi i\u00e7inde buna diren\u00e7 mi var?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">6 y\u0131ld\u0131r siyasetteyim, bu dedi\u011finizin eksikli\u011fini hep hissettim. Muhtemelen, K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n kendi ulusal kimli\u011fi i\u00e7in verdi\u011fi m\u00fccadele o kadar ba\u015fat ki, di\u011fer meseleler, onun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmesiyle kolayca \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclecek tali meseleler olarak kal\u0131yor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Bu da 1960\u2019l\u0131, 70\u2019li y\u0131llarda pek \u00e7ok sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc devrimden sonraya \u00f6teleyen solun tavr\u0131n\u0131 an\u0131msat\u0131yor.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Evet. Oysa bunlar\u0131n hepsinin birlikte tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131 resmin tamamlanmas\u0131n\u0131 da, genel anlamda \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc de kolayla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131r. Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131, Nasturilerin, Ezidilerin ba\u015f\u0131na\u00a0 geleni konu\u015fmayacaksak, ge\u00e7mi\u015fle y\u00fczle\u015fmeyiz. Bu ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmezse K\u00fcrt sorunu da \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclemez. O zaman, TC ile k\u00fcrtler aras\u0131nda di\u011fer halklar\u0131n kan\u0131 \u00fczerine kurulmu\u015f kaypak bir uzla\u015fma oluyor demektir.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yak\u0131n ge\u00e7mi\u015fte \u00e7ok\u00e7a dillendirilen \u201ckurucu unsur\u201d s\u00f6ylemi de bu dedi\u011finiz kaypak uzla\u015fma aray\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131 yans\u0131tm\u0131yor muydu?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">Orada bir yanl\u0131\u015f vard\u0131. Bu topraklardaki b\u00fct\u00fcn halklar kurucu unsurdur ve bu topraklar\u0131n sahibidir. Ermeni meselesi T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin K\u00fcrt meselesinden \u00e7ok daha b\u00fcy\u00fck bir tabusudur ve onu \u00e7\u00f6zmeden K\u00fcrt meselesi de tam anlam\u0131yla \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclemez.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 D\u00fcnyaya da\u011f\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olan Ermenilere ne s\u00f6ylemek isterdiniz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\">\u00c7ocuklu\u011fumuzda Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019da Ermeni s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcn k\u00fcf\u00fcr olarak kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir toplumda b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fck ve bug\u00fcn halen Ermeni s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcn hakaret olarak kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir \u00fclkede bir partinin e\u015f ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 yap\u0131yorum. Bir \u015fekilde o su\u00e7a bula\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131k. Kendimizi tan\u0131yana, neyin ne oldu\u011funu anlayana kadar Ermeni\u2019nin hakaret oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fck. Bundan dolay\u0131 ben, Ermeni halk\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 bir eziklik hissediyorum. Ayn\u0131 topraktan, ayn\u0131 tarladan beslendi\u011fimizi biliyoruz. Ermenilere kar\u015f\u0131 T\u00fcrkler ve K\u00fcrtler olarak borcumuz var ve o borcu yerine getirene kadar da Ermeni halk\u0131n\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na rahat \u00e7\u0131kamayaca\u011f\u0131z.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><a href=\"mailto:rober.koptas@agos.com.tr\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><b><i>rober.koptas@agos.com.tr<\/i><\/b><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/haber.php?seo=kurtlere-sorulsa-cogu-ayri-devlet-istiyorum-diyecek&amp;haberid=3907<\/i><\/b><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BDP E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Selahattin Demirta\u015f, \u201c\u015eu soru K\u00fcrtlere sorulabilse, art\u0131k pek \u00e7o\u011fu ayr\u0131 bir devlette ya\u015famak istiyorum diyecektir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu devletin T\u00fcrk\u2019e ait oldu\u011fu, b\u00fct\u00fcn kurumlar\u0131n, imk\u00e2nlar\u0131n T\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fc geli\u015ftirmek i\u00e7in kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, geri kalan kesimlere sus pay\u0131 da\u011f\u0131t\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, susmayanlara da sopa politikas\u0131n\u0131n uyguland\u0131\u011f\u0131 K\u00fcrtler taraf\u0131ndan art\u0131k \u00e7ok net hissediliyor\u201d dedi. 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