{"id":21329,"date":"2013-01-25T03:09:52","date_gmt":"2013-01-25T08:09:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=21329"},"modified":"2013-01-25T03:09:52","modified_gmt":"2013-01-25T08:09:52","slug":"chpli-birgul-ayman-guler-kurtler-turkler-esit-degil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/01\/25\/chpli-birgul-ayman-guler-kurtler-turkler-esit-degil\/","title":{"rendered":"CHP’li Birg\u00fcl Ayman G\u00fcler: K\u00fcrtler T\u00fcrkler E\u015fit De\u011fil"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\u0539\u0578\u0582\u0580\u0584\u056b\u0561\u0575\u0578\u0582\u0574<\/a>CHPli Birg\u00fcl Ayman G\u00fcler ‘ K\u00fcrtler T\u00fcrkler E\u015fit De\u011fil ‘ dedi ortal\u0131k kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131…Mecliste ana dilde savunma ile ilgili g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerde Birg\u00fcl Ayman G\u00fcler’in kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00f6zlere sosyal medyada da tepki geldi.<\/p>\n

TBMM Genel Kurulu’nda ana dilde savunma hakk\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fczenleyen yasan\u0131n g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclmesi s\u0131ras\u0131nda s\u0131k s\u0131k tart\u0131\u015fmalar ya\u015fand\u0131. CHP’nin \u0130zmir Milletvekili Birg\u00fcl Ayman G\u00fcler’in BDP’li milletvekilleri ile girdi\u011fi tart\u0131\u015fma s\u0131ras\u0131nda ‘ T\u00fcrk ulusuyla K\u00fcrt milliyetini e\u015fit, e\u015f de\u011ferde g\u00f6rd\u00fcremezsiniz ‘ demesi ise tepkiye neden oldu.TBMM Genel Kurulu’nda, ”ana dilde savunmaya” ve h\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fclerin cezaevinde e\u015fleriyle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesine imkan tan\u0131yan kanun tasar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n, anadilde savunma imkan\u0131n\u0131n d\u00fczenleyen ilk maddesi kabul edildi.<\/p>\n

Madde \u00fczerindeki g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerde, milletvekilleri aras\u0131nda s\u0131k s\u0131k tart\u0131\u015fma ya\u015fand\u0131.MHP Grup Ba\u015fkanvekili Mehmet \u015eand\u0131r, s\u00f6z konusu madenin, anayasaya ayk\u0131r\u0131 oldu\u011funu, bu nedenle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclemeyece\u011fini savunarak, usul tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 istedi. Bunun \u00fczerine TBMM Ba\u015fkanvekili Sad\u0131k Yakut, usul tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131.CHP Eski\u015fehir Milletvekili S\u00fcheyl Batum, ”Tasar\u0131da \u00f6nce, ‘savunmac\u0131 terc\u00fcman\u0131n\u0131n paras\u0131n\u0131 devlet \u00f6der’ diyorsunuz, sonra di\u011fer bir savunmac\u0131 i\u00e7in de ‘kendisi \u00f6der’ diyorsunuz. Bu e\u015fitlik ilkesine ayk\u0131r\u0131” dedi.<\/p>\n

MHP Konya Milletvekili Faruk Bal, anadilde savunman\u0131n, anayasan\u0131n, ”T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti Devleti’nin resmi dili T\u00fcrk\u00e7e’dir” maddesine ayk\u0131r\u0131 oldu\u011funu, bunun g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclmesinin anayasa ihlali olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ifade etti.BDP \u015e\u0131rnak Milletvekili Hasip Kaplan, bu konuda T\u00fcrkiye’nin de taraf oldu\u011fu uluslararas\u0131 s\u00f6zle\u015fmelerin g\u00f6z ard\u0131 edilmemesi gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Kaplan, ”Siz terc\u00fcman \u00fccretini alacaks\u0131n\u0131z, bari b\u0131rak\u0131n hakim ve savc\u0131lar\u0131n maa\u015f\u0131n\u0131 da biz \u00f6deyelim” dedi.TBMM Ba\u015fkanvekili Yakut, Adalet Komisyonu’nda tasar\u0131n\u0131n anayasaya ayk\u0131r\u0131l\u0131k te\u015fkil etmedi\u011finin kararla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve bu \u015fekilde rapor haline getirildi\u011fini belirterek, g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler devam edilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/p>\n

‘ T\u00dcRK\u0130YE’N\u0130N D\u0130L\u0130 T\u00dcRK\u00c7E’D\u0130R ‘ <\/strong><\/p>\n

MHP Grup Ba\u015fkanvekili Oktay Vural, ”Anayasaya g\u00f6re, T\u00fcrkiye’nin dili T\u00fcrk\u00e7e’dir. Bunun de\u011fi\u015ftirilmesi dahi teklif edilemez. Yarg\u0131lamada egemenli\u011fin en \u00f6nemli simgesi olan dilin ki\u015finin tercihine indirgenmesi, T\u00fcrk\u00e7e’nin d\u0131\u015flanmas\u0131d\u0131r” dedi.AK Parti Grup Ba\u015fkanvekili Ahmet Ayd\u0131n, anayasaya ayk\u0131r\u0131l\u0131k iddialar\u0131n\u0131n Adalet Komisyonu’nda da tart\u0131\u015f\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, komisyonun bu y\u00f6nde verilen \u00f6nergeleri kabul etmedi\u011fini an\u0131msatt\u0131.De\u011fi\u015fiklik \u00f6nergesi \u00fczerine yeniden s\u00f6z alan BDP’li Kaplan, anadilde savunman\u0131n, ki\u015finin polis ya da jandarma taraf\u0131ndan yakaland\u0131\u011f\u0131nda ba\u015flamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini ileri s\u00fcrd\u00fc. Terc\u00fcman \u00fccretinin san\u0131k taraf\u0131ndan kar\u015f\u0131lanmas\u0131na ili\u015fkin d\u00fczenlemeye de kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kan Kaplan, ”Nerede hukuk ve insan haklar\u0131. \u0130\u015fte TBMM; akl\u0131n\u0131, izan\u0131n\u0131, vicdan\u0131n\u0131 yitirmi\u015f. Kendi ana dilimizde savunma da e\u011fitim de yapaca\u011f\u0131z. Televizyonlar\u0131m\u0131z da okullar\u0131m\u0131z da olacak” dedi. Kaplan’\u0131n konu\u015fmas\u0131na, AK Parti, CHP ve MHP s\u0131ralar\u0131ndan tepki g\u00f6sterildi.<\/p>\n

Kaplan, CHP’ye y\u00f6nelik olarak, ”Militarist bir zihniyeti, sosyal demokrasiyi savunanlarda da g\u00f6rmek, utan\u00e7 verici” dedi.
\n
\n‘ K\u00dcRTLERLE T\u00dcRKLER E\u015e\u0130T OLAMAZ ‘ <\/strong><\/b><\/p>\n

Bunun \u00fczerine s\u00f6z alan CHP \u0130zmir Milletvekili Birg\u00fcl Ayman G\u00fcler, AK Parti’nin, T\u00fcrk ulusunu tarihten silmeye, T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tarihten silmeye d\u00f6n\u00fck olan giri\u015fimlerinde, BDP ile i\u015f birili\u011fi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 iddia etti. G\u00fcler, Kaplan’\u0131n s\u00f6zlerini ele\u015ftirirken, ”K\u00fcrt milliyet\u00e7ili\u011fini bana ilericilik ve ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zc\u0131l\u0131k diye yutturamazs\u0131n\u0131z. AKP ve BDP i\u015fbirli\u011finin yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u015fey, tektir. T\u00fcrkiye’de K\u00fcrt sorunu yoktur, T\u00fcrkiye’de siz sorunu T\u00fcrk sorunu yapt\u0131n\u0131z. T\u00fcrk ulusuyla K\u00fcrt milliyeti e\u015fit olamaz. Bundan sonra biz savunmaday\u0131z, bundan sonra me\u015fru m\u00fcdafaa hakk\u0131 i\u00e7in sald\u0131r\u0131day\u0131z” diye konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n

G\u00fcler, konu\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 tamamlamas\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan yerine ge\u00e7erken, BDP Grup Ba\u015fkanvekili Pervin Buldan ile tart\u0131\u015ft\u0131. G\u00fcler, Ba\u015fkanvekili Yakut’a, ”\u00d6z\u00fcr dilemesini istiyorum. Bana, ‘Hadi y\u00fcr\u00fc, y\u00fcr\u00fc’ diyor” dedi. \u0130ki milletvekili aras\u0131ndaki s\u00f6zl\u00fc sata\u015fman\u0131n devam etmesi \u00fczerine, tart\u0131\u015fmaya baz\u0131 CHP ve BDP milletvekilleri de kat\u0131ld\u0131. Bu arada baz\u0131 CHP milletvekilleri ile AK Parti milletvekilleri aras\u0131nda da tart\u0131\u015fma \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fcmesi \u00fczerine Ba\u015fkanvekili Yakut, birlemi\u015fe ara verdi.<\/p>\n

Verilen aran\u0131n ard\u0131ndan devam eden g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerde, milletvekilleri aras\u0131nda s\u0131k s\u0131k s\u00f6zl\u00fc sata\u015famalar ya\u015fand\u0131. Tasar\u0131n\u0131n birinci maddesi kabul edildi. Ba\u015fkanvekili Yakut, aran\u0131n ard\u0131ndan komisyonun yerini almamas\u0131 \u00fczerine yar\u0131n saat 14.00’te toplanmak \u00fczere birle\u015fimi kapatt\u0131.<\/p>\n

ANAD\u0130LDE SAVUNMA \u0130MKANI<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tasar\u0131n\u0131n kabul edilen birinci maddesi, anadilde savunma imkan\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fczenliyor.Buna g\u00f6re, san\u0131k; iddianamenin okunmas\u0131 ve esas hakk\u0131nda m\u00fctalaan\u0131n verilmesi \u00fczerine s\u00f6zl\u00fc savunmas\u0131n\u0131, kendisini daha iyi ifade edebilece\u011fini beyan etti\u011fi ba\u015fka bir dilde yapabilecek. Terc\u00fcme hizmetleri, il adli yarg\u0131 adalet komisyonlar\u0131nca olu\u015fturulan listeden, san\u0131\u011f\u0131n se\u00e7ece\u011fi terc\u00fcman taraf\u0131ndan yerine getirilecek.<\/p>\n

Bu terc\u00fcman\u0131n gideri devlet taraf\u0131ndan kar\u015f\u0131lanmayacak. Bu imkan, yarg\u0131laman\u0131n s\u00fcr\u00fcncemede b\u0131rak\u0131lmas\u0131na y\u00f6nelik olarak k\u00f6t\u00fcye kullan\u0131lamayacak.Terc\u00fcmanlar, il adli yarg\u0131 adalet komisyonlar\u0131nca her y\u0131l d\u00fczenlenen listede yer alan ki\u015filer aras\u0131ndan se\u00e7ilecek. Savc\u0131lar ve hakimler, bulunduklar\u0131 illerdeki listelerden de\u011fil, di\u011fer illerdeki listelerden de terc\u00fcman se\u00e7ebilecek. Adalet Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131, buna ili\u015fkin y\u00f6netmeli\u011fi, d\u00fczenlemenin kanunla\u015f\u0131p y\u00fcr\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011fe girdi\u011fi tarihten itibaren bir ay i\u00e7inde \u00e7\u0131karacak. Y\u00f6netmelik uyar\u0131nca terc\u00fcman listeleri olu\u015fturuluncaya kadar, san\u0131k mahkemeye kendi terc\u00fcman\u0131n\u0131 getirecek.<\/p>\n

\u0130\u015fte meclis tutana\u011f\u0131ndan o tart\u0131\u015fma:<\/p>\n

B\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (\u0130zmir) \u2013 Burada herh\u00e2lde \u015fimdiye kadar b\u00f6yle konu\u015fmalar duyulmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. BDP Grubundan Say\u0131n Akat ‘ \u0131n yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 konu\u015fma kan\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 dondurdu. Sanki ba\u015fka bir devletin parlamenteriydi, bize \u201cSiz.\u201d diye diye inan\u0131lmaz \u015feyler s\u00f6yledi.
\nHAS\u0130P KAPLAN (\u015e\u0131rnak) \u2013 Devletin de\u011fil, T\u00fcrkiye ‘ nin parlamenteriyim.
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (\u0130zmir) \u2013 AKP ‘ nin, T\u00fcrk ulusunu tarihten silmeye, T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tarihten silmeye d\u00f6n\u00fck olan giri\u015fimlerinde BDP ‘ yle nas\u0131l i\u015f birli\u011fi yapt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 onun konu\u015fmas\u0131nda g\u00f6rd\u00fck.
\nMEHMET MET\u0130NER (Ad\u0131yaman) \u2013 Yok \u00f6yle bir \u015fey. Ne alakas\u0131 var?
\nOKTAY VURAL (\u0130zmir) \u2013 AKP-BDP koalisyonu zaten!
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 \u00d6yle bir \u015fey nas\u0131l yok? Anayasa Uzla\u015fma Komisyonuna vatanda\u015fl\u0131k maddesi i\u00e7in partiniz ne \u00f6nerdi arkada\u015flar? \u201cT\u00fcrk vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u201dn\u0131 de\u011fil, \u201cT\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u201dn\u0131 \u00f6neriyorsunuz. Ba\u015fbakan\u0131n\u0131z sal\u0131 g\u00fcn\u00fc \u201cBizim temelimiz Anas\u0131r\u0131 \u0130slam ‘ d\u0131r.\u201d diyor.
\nAY\u015eE NUR BAH\u00c7EKAPILI (\u0130stanbul) \u2013 Say\u0131n Ba\u015fkan\u2026
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 \u201cT\u00fcrkl\u00fck \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131kt\u0131r.\u201d diyor.
\n\u0130HSAN \u015eENER (Ordu) \u2013 Do\u011fru s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor.
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 \u201cVe biz bunu tarihten silece\u011fiz.\u201d diyor. Burada b\u00fcy\u00fck T\u00fcrk milleti \u00f6n\u00fcnde yemin ettiniz, b\u00fcy\u00fck T\u00fcrk milleti \u00f6n\u00fcnde yemin ettiniz.
\nMEHMET MET\u0130NER (Ad\u0131yaman) \u2013 Biz ulusalc\u0131 de\u011filiz, biz \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 de\u011filiz. O Anayasa ‘ y\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirece\u011fiz.
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 O b\u00fcy\u00fck ulusal parti olarak, tek tek \u015fah\u0131s olarak ihanet ediyorsunuz.
\nMEHMET MET\u0130NER (Ad\u0131yaman) – Anayasa ‘ y\u0131 size ra\u011fmen de\u011fi\u015ftirece\u011fiz.
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 Sosyal demokrasiye \u201cmilitarizm\u201d demek ha?
\n\u0130DR\u0130S BALUKEN (Bing\u00f6l) \u2013 Sosyalist Enternasyonel ‘ den de kovduraca\u011f\u0131z; merak etmeyin. Hem burada ulusalc\u0131l\u0131k yap\u0131p hem d\u00fcnyada solculuk yapamazs\u0131n\u0131z.
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 K\u00fcrt milliyet\u00e7ili\u011fini bana \u201cilericilik\u201d ve \u201cba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zc\u0131l\u0131k\u201d diye yutturamazs\u0131n\u0131z. T\u00fcrk ulusuyla K\u00fcrt milliyetini e\u015fit, e\u015f de\u011ferde g\u00f6rd\u00fcremezsiniz. (CHP ve MHP s\u0131ralar\u0131ndan alk\u0131\u015flar)
\n\u0130DR\u0130S BALUKEN (Bing\u00f6l) \u2013 Biz asla milliyet\u00e7i de\u011filiz, siz ulusalc\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, ulusalc\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z!
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 De\u011ferli arkada\u015flar\u0131m, AKP ve BDP i\u015f birli\u011finin yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u015fey tektir. T\u00fcrkiye ‘ de K\u00fcrt sorunu yoktur. T\u00fcrkiye ‘ de siz sorunu T\u00fcrk sorunu yapt\u0131n\u0131z.
\n\u0130DR\u0130S BALUKEN (Bing\u00f6l) \u2013 Sizi Sosyalist Enternasyonel ‘ den de att\u0131raca\u011f\u0131z, hi\u00e7 merak etmeyin.
\nSIRRI SAKIK (Mu\u015f) \u2013 Vallahi, T\u00fcrkiye ‘ de sizin fa\u015fist anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131z var.
\nB\u0130RG\u00dcL AYMAN G\u00dcLER (Devamla) \u2013 Bundan sonra biz savunmaday\u0131z, bundan sonra me\u015fru m\u00fcdafaa hakk\u0131 i\u00e7in sald\u0131r\u0131day\u0131z. (CHP ve MHP s\u0131ralar\u0131ndan alk\u0131\u015flar)<\/p>\n

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