{"id":21179,"date":"2013-01-17T03:15:31","date_gmt":"2013-01-17T08:15:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=21179"},"modified":"2013-01-17T03:15:31","modified_gmt":"2013-01-17T08:15:31","slug":"kurucularinin-agzindan-agosun-oykusu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2013\/01\/17\/kurucularinin-agzindan-agosun-oykusu\/","title":{"rendered":"Kurucular\u0131n\u0131n a\u011fz\u0131ndan Agos\u2019un \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fc"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Agos\"<\/a>Gazete kuraca\u011f\u0131z dediler. Yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni kim olacak, sahibi kim olacak diye konu\u015fuyorduk. Ama kimseyi bulam\u0131yorduk. Bir mekan da kiraland\u0131. Hrant geldi bir g\u00fcn. Elinde d\u00f6k\u00fcmanlar vard\u0131. Dersini iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u2018Tek ba\u015f\u0131ma ben \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131r\u0131m\u2019 dedi. -Kurucular\u0131 Agos’un \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc anlatt\u0131.-<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

Hrant\u2019\u0131n Arkada\u015flar\u0131\u2019n\u0131n d\u00fczenledi\u011fi \u2018Buraday\u0131z Ahparig\u2019 ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 etkinlikler kapsam\u0131nda kurucular\u0131 Agos’un kurulu\u015f \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc anlatt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Bundan 17 y\u0131l \u00f6nce bir Paskalya m\u00fcjdesi olarak Nisan ay\u0131nda yay\u0131n hayat\u0131na at\u0131lan Agos\u2019un \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc, Sarkis Seropyan, Harut \u00d6zer, Harut \u015ee\u015fetyan, Luiz Bakar, Arus Yumul ve Anna Turay, T\u00fct\u00fcn Deposu’nda d\u00fczenlenen s\u00f6yle\u015fide payla\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n

Hrant dersine iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131<\/b><\/p>\n

Luiz Bakar:<\/b> Patrikhanede bir bas\u0131n kurulu kuruldu. O zamanlar Hrant arka plandayd\u0131. Hrant, taktik veriyordu ama \u00f6n planda kimse yoktu. Ba\u015fpiskoposla beraber \u2018Ah bir gazetemiz olsa, ah bir gazetemiz olsa\u2019 diyorduk. Ermenice bilmeyen toplumumuza ula\u015fmak, geni\u015f topluma ula\u015fmak gerekiyordu. Ermeni cemaati kapal\u0131 bir \u015fekilde ya\u015f\u0131yordu. Antalya’da bir panel olmu\u015ftu. Patrik II. Mesrob ve Hrant da vard\u0131. S\u00fcrekli gazete i\u015fi konu\u015fuluyordu. Hrant bizi toplad\u0131. Gazete kuraca\u011f\u0131z dediler. Toplant\u0131lar ya bizim evde yap\u0131l\u0131yordu ya da bir kafede toplan\u0131yorduk. Yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni kim olacak, sahibi kim olacak diye konu\u015fuyorduk. Ama kimseyi bulam\u0131yorduk. Bir mekan da kiraland\u0131. Anna, sa\u011f olsun bizi destekleyen di\u011fer arkada\u015flar\u0131 da getirdi. Hrant geldi bir g\u00fcn. Elinde d\u00f6k\u00fcmanlar vard\u0131. Dersini iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u2018Tek ba\u015f\u0131ma ben \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131r\u0131m\u2019 dedi.<\/p>\n

\u00c7ok amat\u00f6rce ba\u015flad\u0131k<\/b><\/p>\n

Anna Turay:<\/b> Patrikhane’nin bas\u0131n komisyonunda \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z d\u00f6nem hakikaten \u00e7ok zor bir d\u00f6nemdi.\u00a0 Tansu \u00c7iller Ba\u015fbakan, Mehmet A\u011far \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131\u2019yd\u0131. Ayda bir \u201cApo asl\u0131nda Ermeni\u2019ydi\u201d haberleri servis ediliyordu. K\u00fcrt ve Ermeni meselesini birlikte halletmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorlard\u0131 sanki. Ermeni kelimesinin k\u00fcf\u00fcr olarak kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6nemler o d\u00f6nemlerdi. Mesrob S\u0131rpazan bizleri toplad\u0131. Bir \u015feyler yapmak istiyordu. Ben amat\u00f6rce reklamc\u0131l\u0131k i\u015fiyle u\u011fra\u015f\u0131yordum. Bildi\u011fim tek \u015fey bas\u0131n toplant\u0131s\u0131 yapmakt\u0131. Birileri ile bulu\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flamakt\u0131. Mesrop S\u0131rpazan bir araya geldi\u011fi insanlar\u0131 etkiliyordu. Bir medya laz\u0131m diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeye ba\u015flad\u0131k. Hrant o zamanlar \u00e7ok sessizdi. Hrant\u2019\u0131 ilk hat\u0131rlamaya ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131m zamanlar gazete meselesinin konu\u015fulmaya ba\u015fland\u0131\u011f\u0131 zamanlard\u0131. Hi\u00e7birimiz gazetede \u00e7al\u0131\u015facak durumda de\u011fildik. Hrant’a \u2018Tek ba\u015f\u0131na yapar m\u0131s\u0131n\u2019 dedi\u011fimizde \u2018yapar\u0131m\u2019 demi\u015fti. Hrant bir g\u00fcn beni bir kafeye davet etti. O kafede d\u00f6rt be\u015f saat konu\u015ftuk. Bu i\u015fe o kadar \u00e7ocuk\u00e7a, o kadar amat\u00f6rce girdik ki, bu gazetenin yay\u0131n politikas\u0131 ne olacak, kim ne yapacak, hi\u00e7 bunlar\u0131 konu\u015fmad\u0131k. Bu gazete i\u00e7in herkes su ta\u015f\u0131maya haz\u0131rd\u0131. Hepimizin korkusu Hrant’\u0131n solcu ge\u00e7mi\u015fiydi. En ba\u015fta kendisi bu durumun zorlayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyordu. \u0130smini kullanmak istemiyordu. Destek verdik kendisine. Ermeni toplumunun \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131 i\u00e7in ne gerekiyorsa yapacakt\u0131k. Hrant g\u00fcnl\u00fck bir gazete \u00e7\u0131karmak istiyordu. O zaman Ermeni bas\u0131n\u0131 4 sayfa \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor, \u00e7evirilerle \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yorlar. Genelde iki hafta sonras\u0131ndan takip ediyorduk geli\u015fmeleri. Hrant g\u00fcnl\u00fck olmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyordu, tabloid bir gazete vard\u0131 kafas\u0131nda. Israrla \u2018Bizim nefesimiz yetmez g\u00fcnl\u00fck gazeteye\u2019 dedik. \u00c7ok \u00e7abuk ikna oldu. Haftal\u0131k bir gazete konusunda anla\u015ft\u0131k. \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmalara ba\u015flad\u0131k. 8 sayfal\u0131k bir gazeteyi nas\u0131l yapar\u0131z diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorduk. Maketler yapt\u0131k. 8 sayfa T\u00fcrk\u00e7e, 2 sayfa Ermenice haz\u0131rlad\u0131k. \u00dcmit K\u0131van\u00e7 yapar dedik. K\u0131van\u00e7 da, Hrant da d\u00fcnyan\u0131n en zor iki insan\u0131yd\u0131. Hrant kar\u0131\u015fmad\u0131. Bir Pazar g\u00fcn\u00fc \u00dcmit K\u0131van\u00e7’a gittik. Hemen kabul etti. Bir hafta sonra haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 gazeteyi. \u00dcmit mavi bir logo yapt\u0131. Hi\u00e7birimiz be\u011fenmedik. K\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131 yapt\u0131k. \u00c7ok da iyi yapt\u0131k. S\u0131cak bir k\u0131rm\u0131z\u0131. \u00c7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc bir binada, \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc bir ofisimiz vard\u0131. Masa yok, sandalye yok. \u0130nan\u0131lmaz bir yokluktu. Luiz\u2019in \u00f6lm\u00fc\u015f bir m\u00fcvekkilinden bir masa getirdik. \u00c7ok \u00e7irkin bir masayd\u0131. Ofiste \u0131s\u0131tma sistemi dahi hi\u00e7bir\u015fey yoktu.<\/p>\n

\u00dc\u00e7 T\u00fcrk oturmu\u015f Ermeni gazetesi yap\u0131yor<\/b><\/p>\n

Harutyun \u015ee\u015fetyan:<\/b> Hrant arad\u0131 bir g\u00fcn. O\u011flum \u2018Dolapdere\u2019de yer buldum gel\u2019 dedi. Bir sekreter tutmu\u015ftuk. Lavabo yok, tuvalet yok. Po\u015fet \u00e7ayla \u00e7ay yap\u0131yorlard\u0131. Bir g\u00fcn i\u015ften \u00e7\u0131k\u0131nca gittim. Yerde sayfalar, \u00dcmit K\u0131van\u00e7 ve tan\u0131mad\u0131\u011f\u0131m iki ki\u015fi \u2013T\u00fcrk\u2019t\u00fc bunlar\u2013 yere \u00e7\u00f6km\u00fc\u015f Ermeni gazetesi yap\u0131yordu.<\/p>\n

Hrant ile Anna daha \u00f6nce anla\u015fm\u0131\u015flard\u0131. \u0130kisi de var\u0131z dediler. Ofisi tutmadan \u00f6nce toplant\u0131 yapmak i\u00e7in s\u00fcrekli Luiz\u2019in evine gidiyorduk. En uzak ev onun eviydi ama biz onun evine gidiyorduk. Gazetenin ismi ne olacak diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorduk. Luiz\u2019in evinde Rupen Ma\u015foyan vard\u0131. Bizimle ilgisi yoktu. Kar\u0131\u015fmazd\u0131 gazete i\u015flerine ama evde bizi dinliyormu\u015f. Agos olsun dedi. T\u00fcrk\u00e7esi de Ermenicesi de ayn\u0131 anlama geliyor dedi. Ho\u015fumuza gitti. Sonra s\u0131f\u0131r say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131k. \u0130lk say\u0131y\u0131 Paskalya\u2019da \u00e7\u0131karma karar\u0131 ald\u0131k. \u00c7ok ilan gelir diye. Gazetenin daha muhabiri yok, foto\u011fraf\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 yok. Hi\u00e7bir \u015feyi yoktu.<\/p>\n

Anna Turay: <\/b>Ben yeti\u015fmez dedim. Alt\u0131 ay gerek dedim. Harut’un zoruyla, Paskalya’da \u00e7ok ilan al\u0131r\u0131z diye gazeteyi \u00e7\u0131kartt\u0131k. S\u0131f\u0131r say\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 6 bin bast\u0131k. Aboneliklere ba\u015flad\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Agos neden toplat\u0131ld\u0131?<\/b><\/p>\n

Sarkis Seropyan:<\/b> Bir g\u00fcn Hrant d\u00fckkana geldi. \u2018Gazete \u00e7\u0131kart\u0131yoruz, gelir misin?\u2019 diye sordu, ben de kabul ettim. Ba\u015fka bir \u015fey sormad\u0131m zaten. Emekli olmu\u015ftum. Kahvede oturup gazete okurdum. 30 sene sizin Cumhuriyet\u2019inizi okudum, otuz senedir de okumuyorum. Hi\u00e7bir \u015feyden anlamazd\u0131k. Bir Anna vard\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131zda gazeteci. \u00c7ar\u015famba g\u00fcnleri gelirdi \u2018Bu olmam\u0131\u015f, \u015fu olmam\u0131\u015f\u2019 derdi, kavgaya tutu\u015furduk. Yervant Gobelyan vard\u0131. Gelir hi\u00e7birimizi k\u0131rmaz, oturur Ermenice sayfalar\u0131 ba\u015ftan ba\u015fa okurdu. \u0130lkokul mezunuydu ama o zamana kadarki Ermenice gazetelere de Ermeniceyi o \u00f6\u011fretmi\u015fti. 6-7 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019\u00fcn \u00fcst\u00fcne basa basa yazmaya ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. Bir zamanlar diye bir k\u00f6\u015femiz vard\u0131. Bug\u00fcn Aras yay\u0131nc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n bast\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u2018Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011funa Ermeniler\u2019 kitab\u0131n\u0131 biz o zaman k\u00f6\u015fe yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. 6 Eyl\u00fcl yaz\u0131s\u0131ndan sonra gazete toplat\u0131ld\u0131. Gazeteye geldiler. Gazeteleri verdik, y\u00fcz tane ay\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131k onlar i\u00e7in. A\u00e7m\u0131\u015f gazeteye bak\u0131yorlar. Bir zamanlar k\u00f6\u015fesi. Bu ne diyorlar. Burada ne demek istiyorsunuz. 6 Eyl\u00fcl yazs\u0131n\u0131n bahane oldu\u011fu belliydi. Biz gazetede bu k\u00f6\u015fe ile birlikte insanlar\u0131n akrabalar\u0131n\u0131 bulmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flad\u0131k. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n k\u00f6ylerinin ger\u00e7ek isimlerini bulmaya ba\u015flad\u0131k. Herkese kap\u0131s\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k bir okul haline geldi.<\/p>\n

\u0130ki kesim de d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc<\/b><\/p>\n

Harut \u00d6zer: <\/b>Bizim gazetecilikle ilgilimiz sadece gazete okumakt\u0131. Bir anda oturup gazete \u00e7\u0131kartmaya ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. Ta\u015f\u0131ma i\u015fleri, kald\u0131r\u0131p indirmek gibi i\u015fler. Bizim toplumuzda denge kurmak gerekiyordu. Kurumlar\u0131n s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 i\u015flerinden bahsetmek bir tabuydu. Kimse ilan vermez diye yazm\u0131yordu. Hrant oturup bunlar\u0131 yazmaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Personeli ak\u015fam arabayla evlerine da\u011f\u0131t\u0131rd\u0131k. Nerdeyse her gece siviller \u00e7evirirdi. Kimlik kontrol\u00fc. Biz gazeteciyiz derdi. \u00dcmit, bize kart yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131, kartvizit gibi onlar\u0131 g\u00f6sterirdik, \u2018kald\u0131r\u0131n \u015funlar\u0131\u2019 derlerdi.<\/p>\n

Arus Yumul: <\/b>En tembeli bendim. Diran Bakar’\u0131n yaz\u0131 i\u015fleri m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc olmas\u0131n\u0131 kararla\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131lar.\u00a0 Hrant, \u2018Sen s\u00fcrekli ava \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yorsun zaten, bir \u015fey olsa seni kimse bulmaz\u2019 dedi. O da kabul etti. Agos sayesinde geni\u015f toplum Ermenileri d\u00fc\u015fmanlar gibi de\u011fil de insanlar olarak tan\u0131d\u0131lar. Ermeni cemaati \u00fczerinde \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck etkisi oldu. B\u00fcy\u00fck sessizli\u011fi benimseyen cemaat 19 Ocak’la beraber Hrant\u2019\u0131n b\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 yoldan y\u00fcr\u00fcmeye ba\u015flad\u0131. Bu topraklarda Ermenilerin tarihi T\u00fcrk ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n tarihidir. Hrant sayesinde her iki kesim de d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Alsa olmaz denilen \u015feyler Hrant’\u0131n sayesinde oldu.<\/p>\n

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Gazete kuraca\u011f\u0131z dediler. Yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni kim olacak, sahibi kim olacak diye konu\u015fuyorduk. Ama kimseyi bulam\u0131yorduk. Bir mekan da kiraland\u0131. Hrant geldi bir g\u00fcn. Elinde d\u00f6k\u00fcmanlar vard\u0131. Dersini iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u2018Tek ba\u015f\u0131ma ben \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131r\u0131m\u2019 dedi. -Kurucular\u0131 Agos’un \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc anlatt\u0131.- Hrant\u2019\u0131n Arkada\u015flar\u0131\u2019n\u0131n d\u00fczenledi\u011fi \u2018Buraday\u0131z Ahparig\u2019 ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 etkinlikler kapsam\u0131nda kurucular\u0131 Agos’un kurulu\u015f \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcn\u00fc anlatt\u0131. 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