{"id":16470,"date":"2012-07-07T01:23:35","date_gmt":"2012-07-07T06:23:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=16470"},"modified":"2012-07-07T01:23:35","modified_gmt":"2012-07-07T06:23:35","slug":"akcamdan-ciceke-anlamli-cevap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2012\/07\/07\/akcamdan-ciceke-anlamli-cevap\/","title":{"rendered":"Ak\u00e7am\u2019dan \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019e anlaml\u0131 cevap"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=16471\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-16471\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-16471\" title=\"\u0539\u0561\u0576\u0565\u0580 \u0531\u0584\u0579\u0561\u0574\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/\u0539\u0561\u0576\u0565\u0580-\u0531\u0584\u0579\u0561\u0574-300x228.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"228\" \/><\/a>TTK<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u2019<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>dan<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Kemal<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> \u00c7<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>i<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00e7<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>ek<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u2019<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>in<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> \u201c<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Ermeniler<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>, \u0130<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>ngiltere<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>taraf<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u0131<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>ndan<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>el<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>konulan<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> 5 <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>milyon<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Osmanl<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u0131 <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>alt<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u0131<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>n<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u0131<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>n<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u0131 \u0130<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>ngiltere<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u2019<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>den<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>veya<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>m<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00fc<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>ttefiklerden<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>istesin<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u201d <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>s<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00f6<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>zlerine<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>tarih<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00e7<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>i<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Taner<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Ak<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00e7<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>am<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u2019<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>dan<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>cevap<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>geldi<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>: <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Bu<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>s<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00f6<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>zler<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>Ermenilere<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>tazminat<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> \u00f6<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>denmesi<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>gerekti<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u011f<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>inin<\/em><\/strong><strong><em> <\/em><\/strong><strong><em>itiraf<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u0131. <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Bug\u00fcn gazetesinin 22 Haziran Cuma g\u00fcn\u00fc man\u015fetten verdi\u011fi \u2018Ermenilerin kay\u0131p alt\u0131nlar\u0131 bulundu\u2019 haberinde 1915\u2019te tehcir edilen Ermenilerin 5 milyon Osmanl\u0131 alt\u0131n\u0131 de\u011ferindeki kay\u0131p paras\u0131n\u0131n s\u0131rr\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ileri s\u00fcr\u00fclerek, alt\u0131nlara, \u0130ngiltere taraf\u0131ndan el konuldu\u011fu iddia edildi. Tarih Tarih Kurumu\u2019ndan (TTK) Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek, \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019den tazminat talep eden Ermeni Diasporas\u0131 paraya el koyan \u0130ngiltere\u2019den veya m\u00fcttefiklerden neden talepte bulunmuyor? As\u0131l adres m\u00fcttefikler, \u00f6zellikle de \u0130ngiltere\u201d dedi. \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in bu s\u00f6zlerini de\u011ferlendiren Taner Ak\u00e7am, \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 ifadelerin, Ermenilerin mallar\u0131na devlet taraf\u0131ndan el konuldu\u011funun ve bunlar\u0131n sat\u0131larak gelirlerinin hazineye aktar\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 anlam\u0131na geldi\u011fini belirterek, \u201c\u00c7i\u00e7ek, mallar\u0131na el koyulan 1 bu\u00e7uk milyon Ermeni\u2019nin zararlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011fini ve dolayl\u0131 olarak Ermenilere tazminat \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011fini kabul etmi\u015f oldu\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>\u2018<\/strong><strong>Yeni<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>bir<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>bilgi<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><strong>yok<\/strong><strong>\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131n Ermenilerinin mallar\u0131na devlet taraf\u0131ndan el konuldu\u011fu ve bunlar\u0131n sat\u0131larak gelirlerinin hazineye aktar\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 anlam\u0131na geldi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen Taner Ak\u00e7am, \u201cAcaba bu d\u00f6nemde alt\u0131nlar\u0131na el konulan Ermenilere bu mallar\u0131n\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131lar\u0131 verildi mi, verilmedi mi?\u201d diye sordu. Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in bu bilgileri yeni bulunmu\u015f bir bilgi gibi, sansasyonel bir \u015fekilde ortaya \u00e7\u0131karmas\u0131n\u0131 tuhaf ve yak\u0131\u015f\u0131ks\u0131z buldu\u011funu ifade eden Ak\u00e7am, \u201cCiddiyetten uzak bir tutum \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u0130stanbul\u2019dan, Berlin\u2019e para transfer edildi\u011fi daha \u00f6nce defalarca yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ve \u00e7ok bilinen bir konu. Ortada yeni bir bilgi yok. 2005 y\u0131l\u0131nda Kanadal\u0131 tarih\u00e7i Kaprielian Churchill, <em>Like Our Mountains, A History of Armenians in Canada<\/em> \u00a0adl\u0131 kitab\u0131nda de\u011findi konuya. 2009 y\u0131l\u0131nda Hrayr S. Karagueuzian ve Yair Auron taraf\u0131ndan yay\u0131mlanan, <em>A Perfect Injustice, Genocide Theft of Armenian Wealth<\/em> adl\u0131 kitap neredeyse b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcyle bu konuyla ilgilidir. Ve bu kitapta, \u0130stanbul\u2019dan Berlin\u2019e transfer edildi\u011fi s\u00f6ylenen paraya m\u00fcttefik kuvvetler taraf\u0131ndan Berlin\u2019de nas\u0131l el konuldu\u011fu ve daha sonra bunun sava\u015f tazminat\u0131 amac\u0131yla kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 olarak anlat\u0131l\u0131r\u201d dedi. \u201cKonu Lozan Antla\u015fmas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n 58. maddesinde de yer al\u0131r\u201d, diyen Ak\u00e7am, ilgili maddeye g\u00f6re, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin, Berlin\u2019e transfer edilen alt\u0131n paralar \u00fczerindeki her t\u00fcrl\u00fc haktan vazge\u00e7meyi kabul etti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Ak\u00e7am \u015f\u00f6yle devam etti; \u201cBunlar resmi olarak bilinen \u015feylerdir, ortada gizli sakl\u0131 olan bir \u015fey yoktur. Konuyu teknik olarak kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131ran husus \u0130stanbul\u2019dan Berlin\u2019e iki ayr\u0131 para transferi yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131d\u0131r. Birincisi 1915, ikincisi ise, 1916 y\u0131l\u0131nda aittir. Bu iki ayr\u0131 para transferinin miktarlar\u0131 ayn\u0131 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in kar\u0131\u015f\u0131klara yol a\u00e7maktad\u0131r. \u0130tilaf devletlerinin el koydu\u011fu para 1915 y\u0131l\u0131nda g\u00f6nderilendir. Bu para Almanya ve Avusturya\u2019n\u0131n Duyun\u2013u Umumiye\u2019ye verdi\u011fi kredidir. M\u00fcttefikler, Versay antla\u015fmas\u0131na g\u00f6re, bu paran\u0131n Almanya ve Avusturya\u2019ya ait oldu\u011funu iddia ederek el koydu,\u201d dedi. Yani el koyulan alt\u0131nlar\u0131n, Ermeni mallar\u0131 ile alakas\u0131 yok. Bu orijinal kayna\u011f\u0131 Almanya ve Avusturya\u2019ya ait olan bir parad\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Ciddi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma gerekiyor<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">1916 y\u0131l\u0131nda yine ayn\u0131 miktarda bir paran\u0131n \u0130stanbul\u2019dan Berlin\u2019e ve iddiaya g\u00f6re Talat, Enver ve Cemal pa\u015falar\u0131n ki\u015fisel hesaplar\u0131na havale edildi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen Ak\u00e7am, \u201c1916 y\u0131l\u0131nda transfer edilmi\u015f bu paran\u0131n nereye harcand\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve ne yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 konusunda elimizde herhangi bir bilgi yok. Bunun i\u00e7in Alman ve di\u011fer ar\u015fivlerde ciddi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma yapmak gerekiyor\u201d dedi. \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in Ermenilerin 1915 i\u00e7in \u0130ngiltere\u2019den tazminat istemesi gerekti\u011fi iddias\u0131n\u0131 ise Ak\u00e7am, \u015fu s\u00f6zlerle de\u011ferlendirdi: \u201c\u00c7i\u00e7ek, \u2018Gitsinler, \u0130ngilizlerden istesinler\u2019 demi\u015f. 1916\u2019da, \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n \u00f6zel hesab\u0131na giden paran\u0131n kayna\u011f\u0131 hakk\u0131nda bilgi sahibi de\u011filiz ama bu para Ermenilerin de olabilir. S\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011fim yazarlar da (Hrayr S. Karagueuzian ve Yair Auron) \u00e7e\u015fitli kaynaklardan al\u0131nt\u0131lar yaparak, bu alt\u0131nlar\u0131n Ermenilerden el konulan ve Osmanl\u0131 bankalar\u0131na yat\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f m\u00fccevher ve benzeri k\u0131ymetli ta\u015flarlara ili\u015fkin oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Nitekim 1924 y\u0131l\u0131nda T\u00fcrk gazetelerinde Erzurum Valisi Tahsin Bey\u2019in bu y\u00f6nde deme\u00e7leri var. Erzurum\u2019daki Ermenilerin paralar\u0131n\u0131n ve m\u00fccevherlerinin bankalara yat\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 daha sonra da bunlar\u0131n \u0130stanbul\u2019a transfer edildi\u011fi belirtiliyor. Bu paralar ile Berlin\u2019e g\u00f6nderilen paralar aras\u0131nda direkt ili\u015fki kurmam\u0131z m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. Fakat \u00f6yle de olabilir\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Dolayl\u0131 kabul<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">\u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in bu s\u00f6zleriyle mallar\u0131na el koyulan 1 bu\u00e7uk milyon Ermeni\u2019nin zararlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi\u011fini ve dolayl\u0131 olarak Ermenilerin tazminat problemi oldu\u011funu, tazminat\u0131n \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011fini kabul etmi\u015f oldu\u011funu ifade eden Ak\u00e7am \u201cKemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019e \u015funu s\u00f6yleyebiliriz, \u2018kabul edelim ki bu alt\u0131nlar Ermenilere ait ve onlara geri verilmesi laz\u0131m. O halde sadece \u0130ngilizlerin el koydu\u011fu miktar\u0131 de\u011fil, t\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc \u00f6dememiz gerekmiyor mu? Bu tazminat \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011finin a\u00e7\u0131k bir itiraf\u0131d\u0131r. Ve bunu sevinerek sunmalar\u0131na ben de seviniyorum. Bu hem Ermenilerin zararlar\u0131n \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011finin a\u00e7\u0131k kabul\u00fcd\u00fcr hem de Ermenilere yeni yerle\u015fim yerlerinde hi\u00e7bir \u015feyin verilmemi\u015f oldu\u011funun itiraf\u0131d\u0131r. Ba\u015fta Yusuf Hala\u00e7o\u011flu ve Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek olmak \u00fczere TTK\u2019n\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn memurlar\u0131 T\u00fcrk ink\u00e2r politikas\u0131na ba\u011fl\u0131 olarak y\u0131llard\u0131r bizim beynimizi yalanla y\u0131kad\u0131lar. Yalan \u015fu, 26 Eyl\u00fcl 1915\u2019te \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lan \u2018Tasfiye Kanunu\u2019 olarak bilinen yasaya g\u00f6re Ermenilerin yerle\u015ftirildikleri yeni yerlerde el konulmu\u015f mallar\u0131n\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131n kendilerine verilece\u011fi kanun h\u00fckm\u00fcd\u00fcr. Bu kanun h\u00fckm\u00fcne dayanarak Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek ve Yusuf Hala\u00e7o\u011flu gibi memurlar, ink\u00e2r politikas\u0131n\u0131n hizmet\u00e7ileri olarak y\u0131llarca bizlere Ermenilerin gittikleri yerde mallar\u0131n\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131 verildi\u011fi yalan\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylediler ve insanlar\u0131 uyuttular. Yusuf Hala\u00e7o\u011flu\u2019nun Ermeni Tehciri adl\u0131 2001\u2019de yay\u0131mlanan kitab\u0131nda \u201c\u0130sk\u00e2n mahallerine varan muhacirlerin kendilerine aktar\u0131lan bu paralarla i\u015flerini kurmu\u015f ve b\u00f6lgeye uyum sa\u011flam\u0131\u015f olduklar\u0131\u201d ifadesi yer al\u0131r. Bu yalan\u0131 90 y\u0131ld\u0131r devam ettirdiler ve bug\u00fcn art\u0131k yalan oldu\u011funu kendilerinden de \u00f6\u011frenmi\u015f oluyoruz\u201d dedi. Osmanl\u0131 ar\u015fivlerinde buldu\u011fu bir belgeyi yeni kitab\u0131nda yay\u0131mlayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirten Ak\u00e7am, 1918 \u015eubat ay\u0131nda yani \u0130ttihat ve Terakki h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin daha i\u015fba\u015f\u0131nda oldu\u011fu s\u0131rada, h\u00fck\u00fcmet taraf\u0131ndan haz\u0131rlanm\u0131\u015f bir rapor buldu\u011funu, bu raporda Ermenilerin yerle\u015ftirildikleri yerlerde onlara hi\u00e7bir \u015fey verilmedi\u011finin a\u00e7\u0131k olarak kabul edildi\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Ak\u00e7am, \u201c1918 \u015eubat\u2019\u0131nda Ermenilere hi\u00e7bir \u00f6deme yap\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131, h\u00fck\u00fcmetin kendi haz\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 raporda yer al\u0131yor. Bunun kanunsuz oldu\u011fu da raporda a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a vurgulan\u0131yor. Hukukta kazan\u0131lm\u0131\u015f hak kaybedilmez\u201d diyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>EMRE ERTAN\u0130<\/em><\/strong><strong><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/strong><a href=\"mailto:emreertani@agos.com.tr\"><strong><em>emreertani@agos.com.tr<\/em><\/strong><\/a><strong><em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong><em>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/akcamdan-ciceke-anlamli-cevap-1979.html<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TTK\u2019dan Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in \u201cErmeniler, \u0130ngiltere taraf\u0131ndan el konulan 5 milyon Osmanl\u0131 alt\u0131n\u0131n\u0131 \u0130ngiltere\u2019den veya m\u00fcttefiklerden istesin\u201d s\u00f6zlerine tarih\u00e7i Taner Ak\u00e7am\u2019dan cevap geldi: Bu s\u00f6zler Ermenilere tazminat \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011finin itiraf\u0131. Bug\u00fcn gazetesinin 22 Haziran Cuma g\u00fcn\u00fc man\u015fetten verdi\u011fi \u2018Ermenilerin kay\u0131p alt\u0131nlar\u0131 bulundu\u2019 haberinde 1915\u2019te tehcir edilen Ermenilerin 5 milyon Osmanl\u0131 alt\u0131n\u0131 de\u011ferindeki kay\u0131p paras\u0131n\u0131n s\u0131rr\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fc [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16470","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ermeni-soykirimi","category-haberler"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ak\u00e7am\u2019dan \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019e anlaml\u0131 cevap - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2012\/07\/07\/akcamdan-ciceke-anlamli-cevap\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ak\u00e7am\u2019dan \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019e anlaml\u0131 cevap - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"TTK\u2019dan Kemal \u00c7i\u00e7ek\u2019in \u201cErmeniler, \u0130ngiltere taraf\u0131ndan el konulan 5 milyon Osmanl\u0131 alt\u0131n\u0131n\u0131 \u0130ngiltere\u2019den veya m\u00fcttefiklerden istesin\u201d s\u00f6zlerine tarih\u00e7i Taner Ak\u00e7am\u2019dan cevap geldi: Bu s\u00f6zler Ermenilere tazminat \u00f6denmesi gerekti\u011finin itiraf\u0131. 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