{"id":10954,"date":"2011-12-27T04:05:37","date_gmt":"2011-12-27T09:05:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=10954"},"modified":"2011-12-27T04:05:37","modified_gmt":"2011-12-27T09:05:37","slug":"selim-deringil-inonu-tehcire-karsi-cikmadi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/turkish\/2011\/12\/27\/selim-deringil-inonu-tehcire-karsi-cikmadi\/","title":{"rendered":"Selim Deringil: ‘\u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc tehcire kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ne<\/strong>\u015f<\/strong>e<\/strong> <\/strong>D<\/strong>\u00fc<\/strong>zel<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>‘<\/strong>Tehcir s\u0131ras\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131, Alman etkisi alt\u0131ndayd\u0131. Osmanl\u0131 ordusunu da Alman generaller y\u00f6netiyordu. Almanlar kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131ksayd\u0131, Ermeni tehciri durdurulabilir miydi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Almanlar, tehcirin kendisine kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131km\u0131yorlar. \u201cBu, asker\u00ee bir \u00f6nlemdir. Bunu yapmakta hakl\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z\u201d diyorlar. Ama i\u015fin art\u0131k iyice sistematik bir katliama d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc ve b\u00fct\u00fcn n\u00fcfusun telef oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rd\u00fcklerinde kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmaya ba\u015fl\u0131yorlar. Bari Protestan ve Katolikleri koruyal\u0131m diyorlar ve bast\u0131r\u0131yorlar. Bunun \u00fczerine Talat, \u201c\u015eu m\u0131nt\u0131kadaki Protestanlar\u0131 ve Katolikleri g\u00f6ndermeyin\u201d diye telgraf \u00e7ekiyor. Bunu Almanlara g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp g\u00f6steriyor. Sonra ofisine geri d\u00f6n\u00fcyor. Kendi odas\u0131ndaki telgraftan, Almanlara g\u00f6sterdi\u011fi emri iptal eden ba\u015fka bir telgraf \u00e7ekiyor. Biliyorsunuz Talat Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n kendisi telgraf\u00e7\u0131 zaten.<\/p>\n

Tehcirin Almanlar\u0131n fikri oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyenler var. Almanlar\u0131n fikri miydi?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Sanm\u0131yorum. Bu i\u015fin ilk kimin ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131n alt\u0131ndan \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7ok kesin de\u011fil. \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n y\u00fcksek kademesindeki birilerinin fikri oldu\u011fu muhakkak da… Bu ki\u015fi Talat da olabilir, Enver\u2019in kendisi de olabilir.<\/p>\n

Bu kadar yak\u0131n bir tarihi nas\u0131l bilemiyoruz tam olarak?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Birka\u00e7 sebebi var. Bir, devlet olarak \u00e7\u00f6zmek istemiyoruz. \u0130ki, baz\u0131 kritik belgeler ger\u00e7ekten yok edilmi\u015f. Mesela \u0130ttihat Terakki\u2019nin, Te\u015fkilat-\u0131 Mahsusa\u2019n\u0131n ar\u015fivleri yak\u0131lm\u0131\u015f.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Te\u015fkilat-\u0131 Mahsusa dedi\u011finiz devletin istihbarat te\u015fkilat\u0131 de\u011fil mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130stihbarat te\u015fkilat\u0131 olarak kuruluyor ama tehcir s\u0131ras\u0131nda katliam \u00e7etelerine d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor. Hapishaneleri bo\u015falt\u0131yorlar, mahk\u00fbmlara katliam yapt\u0131r\u0131yorlar. Onlar\u0131 tetik\u00e7i olarak kullan\u0131yorlar. Bunlar hakk\u0131nda yaz\u0131l\u0131 belge yok denecek kadar az elimizde. \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131na ka\u00e7madan \u00f6nce belgelerin \u00e7o\u011funu imha ediyorlar. Zaten Osmanl\u0131 da, bu katliam\u0131 yarg\u0131larken \u00e7ok az evrak kullanabildi.<\/p>\n

Osmanl\u0131, Ermeni tehciri ve katliam\u0131yla ilgili kimleri yarg\u0131lad\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bizim resm\u00ee tarih\u00e7iler do\u011fruyu s\u00f6ylemiyor. \u201cOsmanl\u0131, yabanc\u0131lar\u0131n bask\u0131s\u0131yla mahkeme kurdu ve yarg\u0131lad\u0131. Bu mahkeme ge\u00e7ersizdir\u201d diyorlar. Asla do\u011fru de\u011fil. \u0130stanbul\u2019da koskoca bir h\u00fck\u00fcmet var. Bu i\u015fin ger\u00e7ekten bir felaket oldu\u011funa ve mutlaka cezaland\u0131r\u0131lmalar\u0131 gerekti\u011fine inanan, \u0130ttihat Terakki\u2019den ho\u015flanmayan vicdan sahibi insanlar var.<\/p>\n

\u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar aras\u0131nda hi\u00e7 vicdan sahibi yok mu?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Var. Y\u00fcce Divan yarg\u0131lamalar\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda, \u201cBiz yapt\u0131k\u201d diye olanlar\u0131 itiraf edenler var. \u201cLanetliyiz\u201d diyenler var. Ama aralar\u0131nda, Bo\u011fazlayan Kaymakam\u0131 Kemal gibi, \u201cEvet yapt\u0131k. Yar\u0131n gene yapar\u0131m\u201d diyenler de var. Bunlar Ermeni k\u0131yam\u0131ndan \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc yarg\u0131lan\u0131yorlar. Baz\u0131lar\u0131 as\u0131l\u0131yor. Ama resm\u00ee tarih \u00f6yle k\u0131vrak bir \u015fey ki… Resm\u00ee tarih, \u201c\u0130ngiliz i\u015fgal g\u00fc\u00e7lerinin dayatmas\u0131yla kuruldu. Hi\u00e7bir \u00f6zg\u00fcr iradesi yoktur\u201d diyerek o mahkemeyi reddediyor. Bu, hi\u00e7 do\u011fru de\u011fil.<\/p>\n

Resm\u00ee tarih dedi\u011finiz \u015fey, Cumhuriyet\u2019i kuranlar\u0131n ve y\u00f6netenlerin yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 tarih. Cumhuriyet\u2019i kuranlar\u0131n ve y\u00f6netenlerin, \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n g\u00fcnah\u0131na b\u00f6ylesine \u0131srarla sahip \u00e7\u0131kmalar\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131yorsunuz bir tarih\u00e7i olarak?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mustafa Kemal bir ara, Ermeni katliam\u0131 i\u00e7in \u201cutan\u00e7 verici\u201d gibi bir \u015fey diyor ama resm\u00ee tarih olan Nutuk\u2019ta Ermeni katliam\u0131ndan hi\u00e7 bahsetmiyor. Bug\u00fcne kadar Mustafa Kemal\u2019i do\u011frudan do\u011fruya itham eden hi\u00e7bir \u015fey \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131. Ama \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc\u2019yle ilgili var.<\/p>\n

\u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc Ermeni katliam\u0131na kar\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc Malatyal\u0131. \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc\u2019n\u00fcn bu s\u00fcrg\u00fcn meselelerinde, tehcirde, en az\u0131ndan kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k.<\/p>\n

\u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc, emirleri mi yerine getirmi\u015f tehcir s\u0131ras\u0131nda?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet. Ama \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n bir s\u00fcr\u00fcs\u00fc \u00f6yle. Zaten b\u00fct\u00fcn mesele de buradan kaynaklan\u0131yor. Cumhuriyet\u2019i kuranlar binlerce insan de\u011fil ki. Bunlar y\u00fczlerle say\u0131lan insanlar. Belli bir Kemalist kadro var. Bunlar\u0131n hepsi bu olay s\u0131ras\u0131nda, tehcirde, \u015f\u00f6yle veya b\u00f6yle g\u00f6rev alm\u0131\u015flar. Ya g\u00f6z yummu\u015flar ya da uygulam\u0131\u015flar. Sava\u015f var ve bunlar 1915\u2019te subayd\u0131lar. Mesela Tevfik R\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc Aras do\u011frudan do\u011fruya tehciri uygulayan \u00f6rg\u00fctlenmenin olduk\u00e7a y\u00fckseklerde bir yerinde. Mesela Celal Bayar.. O da Te\u015fkilat-\u0131 Mahsusa\u2019da… 1913\u2019te Rumlar\u0131n ka\u00e7\u0131r\u0131l\u0131p g\u00f6\u00e7\u00fcr\u00fclmesini Galip Hoca kod ad\u0131yla yap\u0131yor. B\u00f6yle bir s\u00fcr\u00fc \u015fey var. Bu olay\u0131n personelinde m\u00fcthi\u015f bir s\u00fcreklilik var.<\/p>\n

Tehciri ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftiren personel ayn\u0131 zamanda cumhuriyeti kuranlar m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yani b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde ayn\u0131 adamlar. Son s\u0131\u011f\u0131nma noktalar\u0131ndan biri de, \u201cTehciri, katliam\u0131, soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 her ne idiyse, bunu \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar yapt\u0131\u201d deniyor. Peki, bu \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar kim? Hepsi \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131 bunlar\u0131n.<\/p>\n

Bunlar o s\u0131rada daha d\u00fc\u015f\u00fck r\u00fctbeli \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar de\u011fil mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ne kadar d\u00fc\u015f\u00fck seviyedeyseler… K\u00e2z\u0131m Karabekir o zaman da pa\u015fa. Tabii ki her \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131 katildir demiyorum. Mustafa Kemal de \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131. Cumhuriyet\u2019i kuran kadro oldu\u011fu gibi \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131. Mesela Atat\u00fcrk\u2019e suikast giri\u015fiminden sonra tasfiye edilen bir kadro var. Bu tasfiye i\u00e7in, \u201cKemalist devrim \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 temizledi\u201d deniyor. Hangi \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131? Bir \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 temizledi. Tarih\u00e7i Cemil Ko\u00e7ak bu s\u00fcreklili\u011fi \u00e7ok g\u00fczel anlat\u0131yor zaten. Deniz Baykal 1915\u2019te olsayd\u0131, hi\u00e7 aksamazd\u0131… O projelerin ucundan pek\u00e2l\u00e2 tutabilirdi…<\/p>\n

Ermeni katliam\u0131 ve tehcir i\u00e7in \u201cBu, Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n son d\u00f6neminde \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar taraf\u0131ndan yap\u0131ld\u0131\u201d diyemez miyiz? Cumhuriyet\u2019i kuran baz\u0131 kadrolar\u0131n da ortak olduklar\u0131 bir su\u00e7 mu bu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

B\u00fct\u00fcn sorun o. Vakti zaman\u0131nda bunu diyebilirdik. Bol\u015feviklerin, \u201cBiz, \u00c7arl\u0131\u011f\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn su\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131 kabul ediyoruz. Ama biz yeni bir olu\u015fumuz\u201d dedi\u011fi gibi bizimkiler de o tarihlerde bunu s\u00f6yleyebilirdi. Ama s\u00f6ylenmedi. \u201cOsmanl\u0131 ne yapt\u0131ysa yapt\u0131. Biz, yeni bir olu\u015fumuz\u201d denmedi.<\/p>\n

S\u00f6ylenmemesinin nedeni tehcir uygulamas\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7inde yer alm\u0131\u015f olmalar\u0131 m\u0131 Cumhuriyet\u2019i kuranlar\u0131n da?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet… Zaten mesele oradan kaynaklan\u0131yor ve bu olay onun i\u00e7in kabul edilemiyor. Tazminat talepleri de tabii hesap ediliyor ama… \u0130\u015fin en vahim taraf\u0131 bu s\u00fcrekliliktir. Mustafa Kemal hakk\u0131nda do\u011frudan bir itham, su\u00e7lama hi\u00e7bir yerde yok ama onun alt\u0131ndaki kadrolar i\u00e7in var. \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc hakk\u0131nda do\u011frudan de\u011fil, dolayl\u0131 bir \u015fey var. Zaten tehcir i\u015fi i\u00e7in koskocaman bir kadro gerekiyor. Cumhuriyet\u2019i \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar kurdu\u011funa g\u00f6re, \u201ciyi\u201d ve \u201ck\u00f6t\u00fc\u201d \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar diye komik bir ay\u0131r\u0131m da yap\u0131lamayaca\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6re, bu tehcir de \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n uygulamas\u0131 oldu\u011funa g\u00f6re… Ermeniler bizim diplomatlar\u0131 katletmeye ba\u015flayana kadar bu meseleye kimse kafa yormad\u0131.<\/p>\n

Niye?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Unutturma mekanizmas\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Amerikal\u0131 tarih\u00e7ileri parayla tutup, onlara yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda propagandam\u0131z\u0131 yapt\u0131rmak \u00e7ok yanl\u0131\u015f. \u201cBu, soyk\u0131r\u0131m de\u011fil. Ermeniler T\u00fcrkleri kestiler. Balkanlar\u2019da T\u00fcrklere yap\u0131lanlardan neden bahsedilmiyor\u201d dedirtiliyor onlara. Balkanlar\u2019da M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n \u00e7ok zul\u00fcm g\u00f6rd\u00fckleri, s\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fckleri ve katliama t\u00e2bi tutulduklar\u0131 do\u011fru. Ama Ermeni tehcirini me\u015frula\u015ft\u0131rmak i\u00e7in Balkanlar\u2019\u0131 kullanmak do\u011fru de\u011fil. Balkanlar\u2019da ya\u015fananlar, ayn\u0131 \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde \u00f6nceden tasarlanm\u0131\u015f ve so\u011fukkanl\u0131 bir bi\u00e7imde uygulanm\u0131\u015f bir T\u00fcrk katliam\u0131 de\u011fil. Muhtemelen orada da y\u00fczbinler \u00f6lm\u00fc\u015f. Balkan sava\u015f\u0131nda, S\u0131rp ve Bulgar ordular\u0131 sivil halk\u0131 hedef al\u0131yorlar, o bir ger\u00e7ek. \u0130kisi de lanetlenesi durumlar olsa da, 1915\u2019te hi\u00e7bir olaya kar\u0131\u015fmam\u0131\u015f Tekirda\u011f\u2019daki Ermeniyi Anadolu\u2019dan s\u00fcrmeyi me\u015fru k\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sanm\u0131yorum ben bunun.<\/p>\n

Tekrar Anadolu\u2019ya d\u00f6nersek… Anadolu\u2019da H\u0131ristiyanlar ka\u00e7 ki\u015fiydi?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015eimdi H\u0131ristiyan yok de\u011fil mi? Sonuca bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z zaman Anadolu\u2019nun ciddi bir de\u011fi\u015fim g\u00f6sterdi\u011fini g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz. Bu insanlar\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir k\u0131sm\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc. Ermeni tehciri Anadolu\u2019daki H\u0131ristiyan n\u00fcfusa b\u00fcy\u00fck darbe vurdu. Osman K\u00f6ker, Anadolu\u2019yu vilayet vilayet gezip, kalan Ermeni eserlerinin foto\u011fraflar\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ekiyor. Sadece Erzurum\u2019da 13-14 kilise var. Anadolu\u2019da sadece Ermeni de\u011fil Rum kiliseleri de var. Rumlar\u0131n hik\u00e2yesi daha az kanl\u0131 bir hik\u00e2ye. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc onlar\u0131n s\u0131\u011f\u0131nacak bir devleti vard\u0131. Onlar daha \u00e7ok g\u00f6\u00e7 ettiler. Kurtulu\u015f Sava\u015f\u0131 sonras\u0131 \u0130zmir ve civar\u0131nda ya\u015fananlar\u0131 unutmamak gerekir tabii. Denize d\u00f6kme, \u0130zmir yang\u0131n\u0131… Bir s\u00fcr\u00fc \u015fey ya\u015fand\u0131. Pontus\u2019u da hat\u0131rlamak laz\u0131m. Topal Osman\u2019\u0131n faaliyetlerini de hat\u0131rlamak laz\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Yunanl\u0131lar yakmad\u0131 m\u0131 \u0130zmir\u2019i?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0 \u00a0O kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k bir hik\u00e2ye. \u0130zmir\u2019de H\u0131ristiyan mahallesi yand\u0131. Mustafa Kemal\u2019den \u00f6nce \u015fehre giren Nurettin Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n askerlerinin, ellerinde benzin tenekeleriyle dola\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 ve oralar\u0131 tutu\u015fturduklar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6ren g\u00f6rg\u00fc tan\u0131klar\u0131 var.<\/p>\n

Bizim bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrk dedi\u011fimiz toplumun k\u00f6klerinde kimler var?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Ben kendimden \u00f6rnek veriyim. Benim baba taraf\u0131m\u0131n bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc bilmem ka\u00e7 nesil Rumelili. Selanik\u2019te Yahudilik \u00e7ok yo\u011fun oldu\u011funa g\u00f6re, baba taraf\u0131mdan Yahudilik pek\u00e2l\u00e2 olabilir. Babaannem sar\u0131\u015f\u0131n, ye\u015fil g\u00f6zl\u00fc. Slavl\u0131k mutlaka var. Babam\u0131n babas\u0131, Bulgar M\u00fcsl\u00fcman\u2019\u0131. Pomakl\u0131k olabilir. Anne taraf\u0131m derseniz, oldu\u011fu gibi Kafkas, \u00c7erkez, Da\u011f\u0131stan, G\u00fcrc\u00fc ve sarayl\u0131… Anadolu bir kokteyl. Ne mutlu ki \u00f6yle.<\/p>\n

Ermeni ve Rumlar kokteyl de\u011filler mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tabii ki \u00f6yle. Kendisine Rum diyen ve Rumca konu\u015fmayan bir s\u00fcr\u00fc insan var. Mesela Karamanl\u0131lar var. H\u0131ristiyan T\u00fcrkler bunlar. K\u0131sacas\u0131, Rumlar da Rum de\u011fil, Ermeniler de Ermeni de\u011fil. Mesela 19. y\u00fczy\u0131ldaki ara\u015ft\u0131rmalarda ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131 ki, kendisine Rum veya Yunan diyen insanlar\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu Arnavut. Yunanistan\u2019da Yunanla\u015fm\u0131\u015f, Helenle\u015fmi\u015f \u00e7ok Arnavut ve Rumen var. B\u00fct\u00fcn Balkanlar ve Anadolu b\u00f6yle. Anadolu\u2019da da hi\u00e7 Ermenice bilmeyen Ermeniler var. Zazaca konu\u015fan Ermeniler var.<\/p>\n

Anadolu b\u00f6ylesine bir kar\u0131\u015f\u0131msa… Neden h\u00e2l\u00e2 \u0131rk \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 ya\u015f\u0131yor Anadolu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu ulus-devlet \u00e7ok ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olmad\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7as\u0131. \u0130\u015fin ac\u0131kl\u0131 taraf\u0131 bu.<\/p>\n

Osmanl\u0131\u2019da T\u00fcrk-K\u00fcrt \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 var m\u0131yd\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yoktu. Buna yak\u0131n hi\u00e7bir \u015fey yoktu. Ulus-devlet, bir\u00e7ok bak\u0131mdan imparatorluklara g\u00f6re daha dinamik ve ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 bir proje ama etnik politika konusunda imparatorluklar kadar ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 de\u011fil. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ulusdevlet, \u201cburas\u0131 sadece benim\u201d diyor. O zaman ne oluyor? Kendisinden saymad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 d\u0131\u015fl\u0131yor, asimile ediyor ya da \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcyor. En iyi ihtimal olarak da onlar\u0131, cemaatler halinde tutuyor. Mesela \u0130stanbul Rumlar\u0131 gibi. Veya Yunanistan\u2019da Bat\u0131 Trakya T\u00fcrkleri gibi. Yunanl\u0131lar h\u00e2l\u00e2 Bat\u0131 Trakya T\u00fcrklerine T\u00fcrk demiyorlar. Yunan M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131 diyorlar. T\u00fcrk dedikleri takdirde, T\u00fcrkler gelip buray\u0131 alacak gibisinden! bir sorun \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar.<\/p>\n

Bug\u00fcn art\u0131k ulus-devletler demokratik hukuk devleti oldular. Siz ulus-devletin ilk a\u015famas\u0131ndan s\u00f6z ediyorsunuz. Biz ulus-devlet olarak h\u00e2l\u00e2 kurulu\u015f a\u015famas\u0131nda m\u0131y\u0131z?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Galiba ilk a\u015famas\u0131nday\u0131z. \u0130spanya\u2019da yak\u0131n zamana kadar Bask ayr\u0131l\u0131k\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 vard\u0131. H\u00e2l\u00e2 Katalan ayr\u0131l\u0131k\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 var. Ama kimse ciddi ciddi oturup \u0130spanya\u2019n\u0131n da\u011f\u0131laca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyor. \u0130spanya\u2019da \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131 beklemiyor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de birtak\u0131m ta\u015flar zaman\u0131nda do\u011fru oturtulmam\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n

Hangi ta\u015flar bunlar?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu devlet kimin? Bu toplum kim? Kimlerden m\u00fcte\u015fekkil? Burada kimin en son kertede s\u00f6z\u00fc ge\u00e7er? Karar verme s\u00fcrecine kimler kat\u0131l\u0131r? Bu temel sorulara TC do\u011fru d\u00fcr\u00fcst cevap bulamam\u0131\u015f. Cevap olarak \u201cT\u00fcrkler\u201d demi\u015f. T\u00fcrklerin kim oldu\u011fu da kendinden menkul bu arada. TC projesi, Anadolu\u2019yu T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f, K\u00fcrtleri yok saym\u0131\u015f, gayr\u0131m\u00fcslimleri g\u00f6\u00e7 ettirmi\u015f falan. Cumhuriyet\u2019in sentezi buydu. TC projesi, 1980\u2019lere kadar olduk\u00e7a ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyordu. Ama sonra ne odu? Kemalistlerin sentezi buraya kadar tuttu.<\/p>\n

Buras\u0131 dedi\u011finiz neresi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

AKP. Ulusalc\u0131lar, Cumhuriyet elden gidiyor diye ba\u011f\u0131r\u0131yorlar. Hay\u0131r.<\/p>\n

AKP, Cumhuriyet\u2019in \u00e7ok g\u00fczel, m\u00fckemmel bir \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc. Anlatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fay\u0131m. B\u00fct\u00fcn toplumlarda, devlet ve toplum aras\u0131nda bir pazarl\u0131k vard\u0131r. En ceberut devlet bile herkesin kafas\u0131na sopa indiremez.<\/p>\n

Ne o kadar askeri vard\u0131r ne de o kadar paras\u0131. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla devletin bir \u015fekilde toplumla pazarl\u0131k etmesi gerekir.<\/p>\n

Bizde pazarl\u0131k yap\u0131l\u0131yor mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0 Bizde de bu pazarl\u0131k nesillerdir s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. Kemalizm toplumun kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na belli bir proje getirip koydu. Her nesil farkl\u0131 insanlar bu projeyle pazarl\u0131\u011fa oturdular. 1946\u2019da bu proje, San Francisco Konferans\u0131\u2019yla tek partili sistemden \u00e7ok partili sisteme ge\u00e7mek zorunda b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131. Toplumun pazarl\u0131k g\u00fcc\u00fc artt\u0131. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc i\u015fin i\u00e7ine demokrasi denen \u015feytan girdi. Ve sand\u0131ktan Demokrat Parti \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Sonra ba\u015fka bir pazarl\u0131k derken 27 May\u0131s oldu. Askerler defalarca, do\u011fal olarak olu\u015fmakta olan senteze m\u00fcdahale ettiler. Bizim \u00f6mr\u00fcm\u00fczde \u00fc\u00e7 tane darbe oldu. Sonra Refah sand\u0131ktan \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Bu bir ge\u00e7i\u015f d\u00f6nemiydi. Ve AKP geldi. Be\u011fenin be\u011fenmeyin, AKP, TC projesinin a\u00e7\u0131k ve net \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcd\u00fcr. Kemalist devletin projesiyle toplum aras\u0131nda 80 y\u0131ld\u0131r s\u00fcregelen pazarl\u0131\u011f\u0131n vard\u0131\u011f\u0131 en son noktad\u0131r AKP.<\/p>\n

Pazarl\u0131\u011f\u0131 kim kazand\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Valla \u00e7ok \u015f\u00fck\u00fcr ki galiba toplum kazand\u0131.<\/p>\n

Bug\u00fcn ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131z, ge\u00e7mi\u015fin bize bir miras\u0131 m\u0131?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Her zaman \u00f6yle ve bu, her toplumda b\u00f6yle.<\/p>\n

Bir politikac\u0131 gaf yap\u0131ncaya kadar bu \u00fclkede insanlar Dersim katliam\u0131ndan habersizdiler. Dersim konusunda tarih\u00e7ilerimiz bug\u00fcne dek niye sessiz kald\u0131lar?<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

Tarih\u00e7ilerin g\u00fcnahlar\u0131 o kadar b\u00fcy\u00fck ki… Dersim bu g\u00fcnahlardan sadece biri…<\/p>\n

Son bir soru… Tarih\u00e7iler \u015fu konuda ne diyorlar? Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n T\u00fcrkleri k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmsedi\u011fi, kaba saba buldu\u011fu hatta a\u015fa\u011f\u0131lad\u0131\u011f\u0131 anlat\u0131l\u0131r hep. Osmanl\u0131 T\u00fcrkleri neden be\u011fenmiyor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n T\u00fcrkleri a\u015fa\u011f\u0131lad\u0131\u011f\u0131 hi\u00e7 do\u011fru de\u011fil. Cumhuriyet\u2019in, Osmanl\u0131\u2019y\u0131 olumsuzlamak i\u00e7in sonradan uydurdu\u011fu bir \u015fey bu. Kocaman bir palavra bu… <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

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