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Lusyen Kopar<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n
\u00c7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131nda, \u2018dolma\u2019 tarifi \u00fczerinden Do\u011fu Ermenicesi ile Bat\u0131 Ermenicesi aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkiyi ele alan A\u00e7\u0131kg\u00f6z\u2019le konu\u015ftuk.<\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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\"Foto\u011fraf:<\/div>\n
Foto\u011fraf: Olga Shakhanskaya<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n

Yerevan\u2019da faaliyet g\u00f6steren sivil toplum kurulu\u015fu Norarar Pordzaragan Arvesdi Kentron (Deneysel \u00c7a\u011fda\u015f Sanat Merkezi, NPAK), ge\u00e7en ay \u2018Tur\u0131t Pats\u2019 [Kap\u0131n\u0131 A\u00e7] ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir projeye imza att\u0131. Bat\u0131 Ermenicesi ile Do\u011fu Ermenicesi aras\u0131ndaki farkl\u0131l\u0131klara ve ortakl\u0131klara odaklanan laboratuvar projesine \u0130stanbul\u2019dan multidisipliner sanat\u00e7\u0131 Anet Sandra A\u00e7\u0131kg\u00f6z de kat\u0131ld\u0131. A\u00e7\u0131kg\u00f6z, g\u00f6rsel sanatlar, video, edebiyat ve performans alanlar\u0131nda eserler \u00fcreten, farkl\u0131 \u00fclkelerden 11 sanat\u00e7\u0131n\u0131n yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 projenin video art b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcn k\u00fcrat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc \u00fcstlendi. Uzun bir ara\u015ft\u0131rma s\u00fcrecinin ard\u0131ndan 27 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de NPAK\u2019ta kap\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7an sergi b\u00fcy\u00fck ilgi g\u00f6r\u00fcrken, projenin kamusal etkinlikleri 12 Ekim\u2019e kadar s\u00fcrd\u00fc. \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131nda, \u2018dolma\u2019 tarifi \u00fczerinden Do\u011fu Ermenicesi ile Bat\u0131 Ermenicesi aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkiyi ele alan A\u00e7\u0131kg\u00f6z\u2019le konu\u015ftuk.<\/p>\n

\u2018Tur\u0131t Pats\u2019 projesinden ba\u015flayal\u0131m.\u00a0Projeyi anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Proje, Gulbenkian Vakf\u0131\u2019n\u0131n deste\u011fiyle hayata ge\u00e7ti. Bat\u0131 ve Do\u011fu Ermenicenin farkl\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131na ve ortakl\u0131klar\u0131na odaklanan, sanat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n Bat\u0131 Ermenicesini ara\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131klar\u0131 ve sanat eserlerini geli\u015ftirdikleri ara\u015ft\u0131rma projesi olarak ba\u015flad\u0131, daha sonra sergi ve kamusal etkinliklerle devam etti. Sanat\u00e7\u0131lar g\u00f6rsel sanatlar, video, edebiyat ve performans alan\u0131ndan NPAK taraf\u0131ndan duyurulan bir a\u00e7\u0131k \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131 ile se\u00e7ildi. Bu s\u00fcre zarf\u0131nda alan\u0131nda uzman ki\u015filer ile r\u00f6portajlar ve Yerevan\u2019da \u00e7e\u015fitli m\u00fcze ziyaretleri ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirilerek saha ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131 yap\u0131ld\u0131. Ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar sonucu sanat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n \u00e7e\u015fitli disiplinlerde \u00fcretti\u011fi eserlerden bir sergi a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n

Siz bu projeye nas\u0131l dahil oldunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

2024 Haziran sonunda \u2018Hangardz\u2019 ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z tiyatro toplulu\u011funun Ermenistan turnesinde yakla\u015f\u0131k 10 g\u00fcn Yerevan\u2019da kalma f\u0131rsat\u0131m oldu. Bu s\u00fcre zarf\u0131nda toplulu\u011fun \u2018Y\u00fcre\u011fim Da\u011flardad\u0131r\u2019 oyununu NPAK\u2019ta Ermenice sahneledi. Burada ben NPAK ekibi ile, onlar da i\u015flerim ile tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bir sonraki proje i\u00e7in kendileriyle anla\u015ft\u0131k ve beraber bir \u015feyler yapabilece\u011fimizi konu\u015ftuk.<\/p>\n

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\"Foto\u011fraf:<\/div>\n
Foto\u011fraf: Olga Shakhanskaya<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n

<\/a>Projenin ismi ilgimi \u00e7ekti: \u2018Dolma Tarifi \u00dczerinden Diyalog Kurmak\u2019. Size g\u00f6re dolma tarifi ile diyalog kurulur mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bunun cevab\u0131 asl\u0131nda \u00fcretmi\u015f oldu\u011fum i\u015fin ta kendisi. \u201cDiyalo\u011fu tarif ile s\u0131n\u0131rland\u0131r\u0131rsak elbette pek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmayabilir\u201d gibi ezber bir cevap verebiliriz. Ancak, \u00f6tekini, \u2018bizden olmayan\u0131\u2019 anlamak, tan\u0131mak yaln\u0131zca kelimeleri ve dili anlamaktan \u00e7ok daha \u00f6te. \u0130leti\u015fimin kendisi, kelimelerden \u00e7ok daha fazlas\u0131. Deneyim ile do\u011frudan alakal\u0131. Di\u011ferini deneyimlemek, k\u00e2\u011f\u0131t \u00fczerinde tan\u0131maktan fazlas\u0131 demek.<\/p>\n

Bu y\u00fczden do\u011frudan tarif ile olmasa da tat, lezzet ve deneyim yoluyla \u00f6tekine giden diyalog kap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 aralaman\u0131n m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmas\u0131ndan yola \u00e7\u0131karak \u00fcretti\u011fim bir i\u015fti.<\/p>\n

Ermenistan\u2019da dolman\u0131n ve sarman\u0131n t\u00fcm \u00e7e\u015fitlerine \u2018dolma\u2019 denir. Sergide ziyaret\u00e7iler ile bunu konu\u015ftu\u011fumuzu hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum. Dolma, T\u00fcrk\u00e7edeki doldurmak fiil k\u00f6k\u00fcnden t\u00fcremi\u015f bir kelime. Yemekte de biberi, patl\u0131can\u0131 doldurdu\u011funuzda dolma dersiniz. Oysa bizim yedi\u011fimiz sarmayd\u0131. \u0130smi biraz da bu y\u00fczden \u2018Dolma tarifi \u00fczerinden diyalog durmak\u2019\u2026<\/p>\n

Bize projeni tan\u0131t\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130ki k\u0131s\u0131mdan olu\u015fan bir video-performans i\u015fi asl\u0131nda. Birinci k\u0131sm\u0131 yakla\u015f\u0131k be\u015f bu\u00e7uk dakikal\u0131k bir video. Bu k\u0131s\u0131m \u0130stanbul\u2019da yap\u0131ld\u0131. \u0130ki kanall\u0131 videoda her iki k\u00fclt\u00fcrde bulunan ancak i\u00e7eri\u011fi farkl\u0131 olan, yayalar\u0131m\u0131zdan kalma dolma tarifi yazan iki ki\u015fi g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Videonun ilerleyen s\u00fcre\u00e7lerinde yazarlar k\u00e2\u011f\u0131tlar\u0131 birbirleriyle de\u011fi\u015ftirerek di\u011fer leh\u00e7eyi anlamaya ve kendi leh\u00e7esine uyarlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rken g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n

\u0130\u015fin ikinci a\u015famas\u0131 ise Yerevan\u2019da oldu. Sergi a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015f\u0131ndan bir gece \u00f6nce Brezilya, Ermenistan ve Rusya\u2019dan sanat\u00e7\u0131 ve k\u00fcrat\u00f6rlerin kat\u0131l\u0131m\u0131yla \u0130stanbullu Ermenilere \u00f6zg\u00fc olan ve videoda Bat\u0131 Ermenicesi tarifiyle yaz\u0131lan yaprak dolmas\u0131 tarifine uygun sarmalar sar\u0131ld\u0131. B\u00f6ylece bir masa etraf\u0131nda \u2018doymak\u2019\u00a0gibi basit temel ihtiya\u00e7tan fazlas\u0131 i\u00e7in bulu\u015fma f\u0131rsat\u0131 yakalad\u0131k.\u00a0 Sar\u0131lan bu dolmalar, sergi a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015f\u0131nda, belki de ilk defa \u2018bat\u0131l\u0131\u2019 bir tarif tad\u0131m\u0131 yapacak olan sergi ziyaret\u00e7ilerine sunuldu. Az \u00f6nce bahsetti\u011fim ileti\u015fimin yaln\u0131zca harfler, kelimeler ve c\u00fcmlelere s\u0131k\u0131\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 alternatif bir diyalog kurma \u00e7abas\u0131 i\u015fte burada ama\u00e7lanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n

\"Videodan<\/div>\n
Videodan bir g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fc<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n

Bu projenin bu diyalog kap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 aralad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor musunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Umuyorum\u2026 G\u00f6zlemledi\u011fim kadar\u0131yla bir kap\u0131 aralad\u0131k, evet. Ancak bu kap\u0131n\u0131n kesinlikle i\u00e7eriye veya d\u0131\u015far\u0131ya davet i\u00e7ermedi\u011fini s\u00f6ylemem gerekir. Bu kap\u0131n\u0131n aralanmas\u0131, kap\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131n\u0131n duyumsama alan\u0131na girmesiyle alakal\u0131.<\/p>\n

Bu, dolmalar\u0131n sar\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131, \u00e7e\u015fitli co\u011frafyalardan insanlar\u0131n bir araya geldi\u011fi gece ba\u015flad\u0131. Kimisi yayas\u0131n\u0131 an\u0131msad\u0131, kimisi mamas\u0131n\u0131n kal\u0131n sard\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve b\u00f6yle \u00f6\u011frendi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyerek ba\u015flad\u0131. O gece dolma nerede nas\u0131l sar\u0131l\u0131yor, lezzeti nas\u0131l gibi konular\u0131n yan\u0131 s\u0131ra farkl\u0131 co\u011frafyalarda b\u00fcy\u00fcyen kad\u0131nlar\u0131n \u2018kad\u0131nl\u0131k\u2019 deneyimleri de konu\u015fuldu… Hesaplamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m, kendili\u011finden geli\u015fen bir durumdu bu.<\/p>\n

Sergi a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ziyaret\u00e7ilerle dolman\u0131n kelime k\u00f6k\u00fcne dair uzun uzun konu\u015ftu\u011fumuzu hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum. Tarih boyunca milliyet\u00e7i de\u011ferler \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde ara\u00e7salla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lan yeme\u011fin, ortak k\u00fclt\u00fcrel bir de\u011fer olarak insanlar\u0131 bir araya getirme ve \u2018biz\u2019 kavram\u0131n\u0131 yeniden \u015fekillenme g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc birlikte izledik. O an konu\u015ftu\u011fumuz dilin farkl\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 da ortakl\u0131\u011f\u0131 da tam ortam\u0131zda konumlanm\u0131yordu art\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Ziyaret\u00e7ilerin yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u015fe ilgisi nas\u0131ld\u0131? Siz ne hissettiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

San\u0131r\u0131m dolmalar\u0131n yenmesi de\u011fil, ziyaret\u00e7ilerin dolmalar\u0131 yedikten sonra bunun \u00fczerine konu\u015fmak istemeleri beni etkileyen noktayd\u0131. Ermenistan\u2019da dolmalar \u00e7\u00f6pe gitmez, yenilece\u011finden ku\u015fkum yoktu. Ancak daha sonra \u00fczerine konu\u015fmay\u0131 bu kadar beklemiyordum. O \u00e2na kadar san\u0131r\u0131m kimilerine yabanc\u0131yd\u0131m, ki tad\u0131m, beraberinde \u0130stanbullu Ermenileri de tan\u0131maya dair sorular\u0131 beraberinde getirdi. Misafirdim ama kendi co\u011frafyam\u0131 da lezzet ile misafir ettirmi\u015ftim. Bu da zaten \u00fcretti\u011fim i\u015fin as\u0131l hedefiydi.<\/p>\n

\"Anet<\/div>\n
Anet Sandra A\u00e7\u0131kg\u00f6z<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n

Biraz da daha \u00f6nceki projelerinizden bahsedebilir misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Daha \u00f6nce bu projedeki gibi bir performans\u0131m olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemeliyim. \u0130\u015flerimde genellikle iz, bo\u015fluk ve temsili sorunsalla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yorum ya da buna alternatif yollar arayan i\u015fler \u00fcretiyorum diyebilirim. \u00c7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m konular genellikle devlet \u015fiddeti, g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr ile duyulur olan\u0131n kesi\u015fim alan\u0131 gibi s\u0131n\u0131rlarda dola\u015f\u0131yor. Kavramlar ve kelimeler arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile ger\u00e7eklikten kopmadan bir oyun alan\u0131 yaratmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

Ne demek istedi\u011fimi iki \u00f6rnek ile a\u00e7\u0131klayabilirim: 2023 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u00fcretti\u011fim \u2018F\u00fcg\u2019 adl\u0131 video i\u015fimde yakar top oynayanlar\u0131 izliyorduk \u00f6rne\u011fin. Top, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin y\u00fczle\u015femedi\u011fi ve sorumluluk almay\u0131 reddetti\u011fi travmatik olaylar\u0131n metaforik bir bi\u00e7imiydi. Oyunda da ger\u00e7ekte de topa dokunan yan\u0131yor. Bizler de toptan ka\u00e7an yahut topa dokunsa da oyunda kalmaya devam eden oyuncular\u0131\/failleri izliyorduk. 2022 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u00fcretti\u011fim \u2018Finder\u2019s Keepers\u2019 (Bulan\u0131nd\u0131r) adl\u0131 i\u015fim ise internetten haz\u0131r bulunan bir videonun teliften al\u0131nd\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f halinden olu\u015fuyordu. Define avc\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n haz\u0131ra konmas\u0131 ile benim videoyu kullanma bi\u00e7imim aras\u0131nda bir paralellik vard\u0131.<\/p>\n

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