{"id":81191,"date":"2024-10-11T03:10:37","date_gmt":"2024-10-11T08:10:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191"},"modified":"2024-10-11T03:10:37","modified_gmt":"2024-10-11T08:10:37","slug":"hayatin-ve-hayatta-kalabilenin-anlaticisi-david-wagner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191","title":{"rendered":"Hayat\u2019\u0131n ve hayatta kalabilenin anlat\u0131c\u0131s\u0131: David Wagner"},"content":{"rendered":"
David Wagner ile ‘Verkin’ ve ‘Hayat’ romanlar\u0131n\u0131 konu\u015ftuk. Wagner, “Yazan birinin bedenle ya da hayatla ilgilenmemesi m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fc?” dedi.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/header>\n
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DUVAR –\u00a0<\/strong>David Wagner, Almanya\u2019da hen\u00fcz yeni piyasaya \u00e7\u0131kan ‘Verkin’ adl\u0131 roman\u0131yla \u0130stanbul\u2019u, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi iyi tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 kan\u0131tlayan bol \u00f6d\u00fcll\u00fc bir yazar. Bavyera ve Leipzig Kitap \u00d6d\u00fcl\u00fc gibi \u00f6d\u00fcllerin sahibi Wagner, 1971 do\u011fumlu. \u2018Gece Mavisi Pantolonum\u2019 \u015feklinde T\u00fcrk\u00e7ele\u015ftirebilece\u011fimiz ilk roman\u0131 ‘Meine nachtblaue Hose’ 2000 y\u0131l\u0131nda yay\u0131mland\u0131, bunu ilk \u00f6yk\u00fc ve deneme kitaplar\u0131 takip etti.<\/p>\n

‘Leben’ adl\u0131 roman\u0131yla 2013\u2019te Leipzig Kitap Fuar\u0131 \u00d6d\u00fcl\u00fc\u2019ne de\u011fer g\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc. Roman Ay\u00e7a Sabuncuo\u011flu taraf\u0131ndan ‘Hayat’ ismiyle T\u00fcrk\u00e7eye kazand\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131, Everest Yay\u0131nevi etiketiyle yay\u0131mland\u0131. En son da \u0130stanbullu bir Ermeni kad\u0131n\u0131n hikayesine odaklanan ‘Verkin’ adl\u0131 roman\u0131 bas\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n

David Wagner\u2019le hem bu roman\u0131 hem de hastal\u0131\u011fa ve ya\u015fam sevincine dair \u00e7ok etkileyici roman\u0131 ‘Hayat’ hakk\u0131nda konu\u015ftuk.<\/p>\n

Sevgili David Wagner, biz s\u00f6yle\u015fimizi Berlin\u2019de yap\u0131yoruz bug\u00fcn. Ama son y\u0131llarda o kadar s\u0131k \u0130stanbul\u2019a gidip gelmi\u015fsiniz ki, asl\u0131nda pekala orada da bulu\u015fabilirmi\u015fiz.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, hakl\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. \u0130stanbul\u2019a ilk kez 2010 y\u0131l\u0131nda iki haftal\u0131\u011f\u0131na gittim. Daha sonra 2015 y\u0131l\u0131nda Tarabya K\u00fclt\u00fcr Akademisi\u2019nin bursiyeri olarak alt\u0131 ay\u0131m\u0131 \u015fehirde ge\u00e7irdim. \u0130stanbul’a Bo\u011faz’a a\u015f\u0131k oldum diyebilirim. Bu d\u00f6nemde T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi \u00e7ok dola\u015ft\u0131m. B\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fans eseri \u00e7ok ilgin\u00e7 bir ki\u015filikle, ilgin\u00e7 bir kad\u0131nla tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m bu s\u0131rada. Tarabya\u2019da, Beyo\u011flu ve Arap Camii taraf\u0131nda ya\u015fayan \u0130stanbullu Ermeni bir kad\u0131nd\u0131 bu ve bana hikayeler anlatmaya ba\u015flad\u0131.<\/p>\n

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Hayat, David Wagner, \u00c7evirmen:\u00a0Ay\u00e7a Sabuncuo\u011flu, 250 syf., Everest Yay\u0131nlar\u0131, 2015.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

‘YAZMAK F\u0130Z\u0130KSEL B\u0130R EYLEMD\u0130R’<\/h2>\n

Evet \u0130stanbul’daki kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131z ve kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fmalardan ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan yeni roman\u0131n\u0131z ‘Verkin’ hakk\u0131nda detayl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde konu\u015faca\u011f\u0131z. Ama \u00f6nce T\u00fcrk\u00e7eye de \u00e7evrilmi\u015f olan eseriniz hakk\u0131nda konu\u015fal\u0131m. ‘Hayat’, hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131n, hastal\u0131ktan kurtulman\u0131n ve hayatta kalman\u0131n roman\u0131. Neredeyse bir karaci\u011fer naklinin kronolojisi tutuluyor kitapta. Beden ve hastal\u0131k konular\u0131 yazar olarak sizin i\u00e7in geride kald\u0131 diyebilir miyiz, yoksa bunlar h\u00e2l\u00e2 me\u015fgul ediyor mu sizi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yazan birinin bedenle ya da hayatla ilgilenmemesi m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fc? Sadece beni de\u011fil, her yazar\u0131 me\u015fgul eden konular bunlar. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bedenimizle yazar\u0131z, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla yazmak fiziksel bir eylemdir. Ve ben de asl\u0131nda ancak ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131m, tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131m hakk\u0131nda yazan biriyim ya da \u015f\u00f6yle diyelim: Beni \u00e7ok ilgilendiren, anlamak istedi\u011fim \u015feyler hakk\u0131nda yaz\u0131yorum. ‘Hayat’ adl\u0131 roman\u0131m da b\u00f6yle do\u011fdu. Bir s\u0131r de\u011fil: \u00c7ocuklu\u011fumun erken evrelerinden itibaren kronik bir hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131m oldu\u011fu anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131. Karaci\u011ferimin belli bir zaman sonra \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyordum. Yani bir noktadan sonra ancak ve ancak karaci\u011fer nakliyle hayatta kalabilmem m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olacakt\u0131. Sonu\u00e7ta \u015fans\u0131m yaver gitti, b\u00f6yle bir nakil ger\u00e7ekle\u015febildi. Ve ben de t\u00fcm bunlar\u0131 edebiyat arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla i\u015flemek ve anlamak istedim.<\/p>\n

Bu deneyimi yaz\u0131ya d\u00f6km\u00fc\u015f olman\u0131z da bizim i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck bir \u015fans. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7ok \u00f6zel ve hakikatli bir metin bu. Neredeyse hastal\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n bir bilan\u00e7osu \u015feklinde, \u00e7ok ki\u015fisel bir metin.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bir yan\u0131yla b\u00f6yle; ama \u00f6te yandan da ‘Hayat’ hastane ortam\u0131yla da ilgili, yani hastaneleri anlatan bir roman. Beni mekan olarak sadece kentler ilgilendirmiyor. Mesela bir s\u00fcpermarkette ge\u00e7en bir roman da yazd\u0131m. O romanda beden sadece i\u00e7ine s\u00fcpermarketten sat\u0131n ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z yiyecekleri doldurdu\u011fumuz bir \u015fey olarak kar\u015f\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

‘Hayat’ roman\u0131n\u0131 iki ayr\u0131 b\u00f6l\u00fcmde okumak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn, neredeyse bir insan\u0131n ikiye b\u00f6l\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015f ya\u015fam\u0131 gibi\u2026 \u0130lk b\u00f6l\u00fcm organ naklini beklemenin, ikinci b\u00f6l\u00fcm ise organ naklinden sonras\u0131n\u0131n, yani hediye edilen ya\u015fam\u0131n hikayesi\u2026. Bu b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc bir a\u015fk ilan\u0131 gibi de okuyabiliyor insan, hayata duyulan a\u015fk gibi. Ayn\u0131 zamanda bedendeki yeni, yabanc\u0131 bir organ\u0131, kimli\u011fi belirsiz bir sevgili olarak kabul etmenin de anlat\u0131m\u0131 bu.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, t\u00fcm bunlar bir s\u00fcreci anlama \u00e7abas\u0131 asl\u0131nda. Tabii ki organ nakil s\u00fcrecine rasyonel bir g\u00f6zle de bak\u0131labilir. Bir g\u00f6vde var, o g\u00f6vde bir makine gibi i\u015flemektedir, g\u00f6vdenin bir par\u00e7as\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirilmekte, ona yeni bir par\u00e7a eklenmektedir. Ama bu yedek par\u00e7ay\u0131 \u015f\u00f6yle de g\u00f6rebilirsiniz: \u00d6lm\u00fc\u015f birine ait bir par\u00e7ad\u0131r bu ve siz onunla birlikte ya\u015fayacaks\u0131n\u0131z. Romandaki anlat\u0131c\u0131 da bu organ\u0131 yabanc\u0131 bir sevgili olarak g\u00f6rmeye ba\u015flar. Tabii hakk\u0131nda hi\u00e7bir \u015feyin bilinmedi\u011fi bir muammad\u0131r bu, t\u0131pk\u0131 Dante\u2019nin ortada olmayan, kimli\u011fi belirsiz Laura\u2019s\u0131 gibi bir sevgili.<\/p>\n

‘Hayat’ roman\u0131 ba\u011flam\u0131nda \u015funu da sormak istiyorum. Bug\u00fcn nas\u0131ls\u0131n\u0131z, kendinizi nas\u0131l hissediyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Gayet iyiyim. Kesinlikle organ naklinden \u00f6nceki durumla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lamayacak kadar iyiyim. Neredeyse 18 y\u0131ld\u0131r b\u00f6yle ya\u015f\u0131yorum, bunu bir arma\u011fan olarak kabul ediyor ve m\u00fcmk\u00fcn mertebe bu arma\u011fandan yararlanmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

‘KENTLER\u0130 Y\u00dcR\u00dcYEREK KE\u015eFETMEK VE YAZMAK EN B\u00dcY\u00dcK TUTKUM’<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00c7ok g\u00fczel. Tabii bunu sormam\u0131n bir nedeni de \u015fu: Hareket halinde bir yazar oldu\u011funuzu ve hareket halinde de yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 biliyorum. Bu ba\u011flamda da hemen, \u00e7ok \u00f6zel bir roman olan yeni eserinize s\u00f6z\u00fc getirmek istiyorum. ‘Verkin’, \u0130stanbullu bir Ermeni kad\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fc. S\u00f6yle\u015fimizin ba\u015f\u0131nda da de\u011findi\u011fimiz gibi, s\u0131k s\u0131k \u0130stanbul\u2019a gidip gelen birisiniz. Goethe Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc\u2019ne ba\u011fl\u0131 Tarabya K\u00fclt\u00fcr Akademisi\u2019nin bursiyeri olarak \u0130stanbul\u2019da, Tarabya\u2019da ya\u015fam\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z. Enstit\u00fcn\u00fcn internet sayfas\u0131nda Bo\u011fazi\u00e7i Sinemas\u0131 adl\u0131 bir yaz\u0131 dizisinde \u0130stanbul\u2019a dair edebi g\u00f6zlemlerinizi kaleme alm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z, 2016 y\u0131l\u0131nda. ‘Verkin\u2019in roman olarak do\u011fumu da sanki bu yaz\u0131yla ba\u015fl\u0131yor.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Her \u015feyden \u00f6nce \u0130stanbul\u2019da \u00e7ok gezdim, dola\u015ft\u0131m. \u00c7ok y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fcm. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc kentleri y\u00fcr\u00fcyerek ke\u015ffetmek ve yazmak en b\u00fcy\u00fck tutkum. Berlin hakk\u0131nda da b\u00f6yle yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f \u00fc\u00e7 kitab\u0131m var. Yani bir flan\u00f6r gibi bir \u015fehri gezmek, \u015fehre bakmak ve yazmak her zaman yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir \u015fey\u2026 B\u00fckre\u015f hakk\u0131nda ‘Romania’ ad\u0131nda k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir kitab\u0131m var mesela. Ve, evet, \u0130stanbul’dayd\u0131m ve \u015fehir beni b\u00fcy\u00fclemi\u015fti. Mesela Tarabya\u2019dan Emin\u00f6n\u00fc\u2019ne kadar y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fcm. \u00c7ok g\u00fczel bir deneyimdi, \u015fehri tan\u0131mak ve ke\u015ffetmek i\u00e7in de \u00f6nemliydi. \u015eehrin eski surlar\u0131 boyunca da y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fcm, Hali\u00e7\u2019ten Marmara k\u0131y\u0131s\u0131na do\u011fru. Tabii arabayla da \u00e7ok dola\u015ft\u0131m. T\u00fcm bu hareketlilik, bu ke\u015fif ‘Verkin’ roman\u0131na da girdi.<\/p>\n

Evet, okur olarak siz de romandaki karakterlerle birlikte \u0130stanbul\u2019u geziyorsunuz. Asl\u0131nda roman Berlin\u2019de ge\u00e7en bir sahneyle ba\u015fl\u0131yor. Daha do\u011frusu Berlin\u2019e getirilmi\u015f, bir g\u00f6z\u00fc mavi, di\u011feri kahverengi bir Van kedisiyle ba\u015fl\u0131yor.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, asl\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de koruma alt\u0131nda oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in yurt d\u0131\u015f\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131 yasak olan bir Van kedisi bu. Kediyi ‘Verkin’ ad\u0131nda bir kad\u0131n getirmi\u015ftir Berlin\u2019e. Art\u0131k \u00e7ok da gen\u00e7 olmayan bir kad\u0131n bu.<\/p>\n

San\u0131r\u0131m yetmi\u015flerinde bir kad\u0131n.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, roman\u0131n ba\u015flar\u0131nda biraz daha gen\u00e7tir tabii. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc roman 2015 y\u0131l\u0131nda ba\u015fl\u0131yor. Ama romanda zaman ilerledik\u00e7e ya\u015f da al\u0131r kad\u0131n. Ki bu tarihlemeleri \u0130stanbul\u2019da \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc k\u00f6pr\u00fcn\u00fcn hen\u00fcz bitmemi\u015f ve yeni havaalan\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmam\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131ndan da anlars\u0131n\u0131z. Romandaki bu zaman 2019-2020 y\u0131llar\u0131na kadar da devam ediyor. Asl\u0131nda zaman\u0131n tespiti \u0130stanbul’u ve Anadolu’yu kavramak i\u00e7in de \u00f6nemliydi \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu s\u00fcre\u00e7 ayn\u0131 zamanda ac\u0131mas\u0131zca s\u00fcren dev yap\u0131la\u015fmalar\u0131 da kaps\u0131yor. \u00c7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck, g\u00f6rkemli binalar\u0131n, devasa yeni k\u00f6pr\u00fclerin ve havalimanlar\u0131n\u0131n in\u015fa edildi\u011fi bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 bu. Kimsenin hayal bile edemedi\u011fi \u0130stanbul Kanal\u0131 gibi bir proje de buna dahil. –Ki b\u00f6ylesi yap\u0131lanmalar\u0131 bug\u00fcn Almanya\u2019da ya da Orta Avrupa\u2019da hayal etmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn bile de\u011fil.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcm bunlar romanda da ele al\u0131n\u0131yor. \u015eehrin al\u0131\u015fveri\u015f merkezleri hakk\u0131nda ara\u015ft\u0131rma yapmak \u00fczere \u0130stanbul’a giden ben anlat\u0131c\u0131 ki\u015fi, burada Van kedisi \u00fczerinden tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 Verkin adl\u0131 kad\u0131nla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015f\u0131r yeniden ve onun ola\u011fand\u0131\u015f\u0131 hareketli hayat hikayesini dinlemeye ba\u015flar. S\u0131rad\u0131\u015f\u0131 bir kad\u0131nd\u0131r Verkin. T\u0131pk\u0131 isminin anlam\u0131 gibi \u00f6teki ama yine de g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc kalabilen bir kad\u0131n.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, \u0130stanbul’da ya da genel olarak T\u00fcrkiye’de hep isminin ne anlama geldi\u011fini a\u00e7\u0131klamak zorunda kalan, bu konuda sorunlar ya\u015fayan bir kad\u0131nd\u0131r Verkin. ‘Verkin’ y\u00fcce ve ulu kad\u0131n anlam\u0131na geliyor. Malum, Ermeniler her zaman H\u0131ristiyan de\u011fillerdi, eskiden Zerd\u00fc\u015ftl\u00fc\u011fe inan\u0131rlard\u0131. Verkin de Zerd\u00fc\u015ftl\u00fckte y\u00fcksek rahibeleri anlatan bir kavram. Belki romandaki fig\u00fcr\u00fcm de g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir kad\u0131n olarak kendini tam b\u00f6yle g\u00f6r\u00fcyordur.<\/p>\n

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Bir Ermeni kad\u0131n bu. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de hayatta kalabilmi\u015f Ermenilerin torunu. Bir yandan da \u00e7ok konu\u015fkand\u0131r.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Asl\u0131nda t\u0131pk\u0131 kitaptaki gibi bir \u015feye tan\u0131kl\u0131k ettim ben de. Roman\u0131n ben anlat\u0131c\u0131s\u0131 bamba\u015fka bir kitap yazmak i\u00e7in harekete ge\u00e7mi\u015fken Verkin gibi bir ki\u015finin anlatt\u0131klar\u0131yla, hikayeleriyle adeta ba\u015ftan \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131l\u0131r. Kitaptaki yazar karakterim yani ben anlat\u0131c\u0131 fig\u00fcr\u00fcm bir Alman ve bunlar kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 Almanca konu\u015fuyorlar. Verkin, yedi dil bilen bir kad\u0131nd\u0131r ve her dilde ayr\u0131 bir ya\u015fam s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcne inanmaktad\u0131r. Kitab\u0131n bir yerinde mesela \u015funu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor: “Ancak Almanca konu\u015furken bu hikayeler akl\u0131ma geliyor ve ancak Almancada bunlar\u0131 anlatabiliyorum.” Yani Almanca ‘Binbir Gece Masallar\u0131’n\u0131 and\u0131ran \u00f6yk\u00fclerin dili oluyor.<\/p>\n

\u00c7ocukken \u0130svi\u00e7re\u2019de bir yat\u0131l\u0131 okula g\u00f6nderilmi\u015f bir kad\u0131n Verkin. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla Almanya ve Almancayla \u00e7ok s\u0131k\u0131 ba\u011flar\u0131 olu\u015fmu\u015f. Asl\u0131nda onun hayat hikayesiyle birlikte Almanya\u2019n\u0131n 20. y\u00fczy\u0131l tarihine de g\u00f6z atm\u0131\u015f oluyoruz. Bana \u00f6yle geldi ki sanki yazar\u0131n niyeti de biraz bu: Almanya\u2019n\u0131n tarihini de anlatmak.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Berlin ya da Almanya hikayenin ak\u0131\u015f\u0131nda \u00e7ok az yer al\u0131r \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc as\u0131l zemin \u0130stanbul ve Akdeniz k\u0131y\u0131lar\u0131 ya da daha uzaklardaki Van G\u00f6l\u00fc \u00e7evresidir. Ama Verkin\u2019in hareketli hayat\u0131 nedeniyle Almanya da hep i\u015fin i\u00e7ine girer. Bunun b\u00f6yle olmas\u0131n\u0131n bir nedeni de Verkin\u2019in birka\u00e7 y\u0131l \u00e7ok ilgin\u00e7 bir Alman\u2019la evli kalm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131. Yani, bu kad\u0131n \u0130stanbul\u2019dan Almanya\u2018ya gider, sonra Fransa\u2019da bulur kendini, derken uzun bir s\u00fcre Amerika\u2019da ya\u015far. Sonu\u00e7ta uluslararas\u0131 bir hayatt\u0131r bu. \u00dc\u00e7 k\u0131ta ve konu\u015fulan t\u00fcm o diller bir araya gelir. Romandaki ben anlat\u0131c\u0131 ise asl\u0131nda t\u00fcm bunlar\u0131n tek bir hayata s\u0131\u011fabilmesi kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda \u015fa\u015fk\u0131nd\u0131r.<\/p>\n

‘VERK\u0130N’\u0130 \u015eEK\u0130LLEND\u0130REN BABADIR’<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kitap ayn\u0131 zamanda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin tarihiyle de ilgili elbette, \u00f6rne\u011fin sanayinin geli\u015fimi, i\u015f hayat\u0131, az \u00f6nce bahsetti\u011finiz \u00fclkeleraras\u0131 gidi\u015f geli\u015fler\u2026 Ana kahraman\u0131m\u0131z Verkin Tarabya\u2019da, zengin bir hayat s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmektedir bug\u00fcn. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bir giri\u015fimcidir ve hayat hikayesini anlat\u0131rken bir giri\u015fimci olarak T\u00fcrkiye’de ilk kez ayakkab\u0131 taban\u0131n\u0131n nas\u0131l \u00fcretildi\u011fini de anlat\u0131r.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tabii asl\u0131nda b\u00fcy\u00fck giri\u015fimci babad\u0131r ve evet, romandaki as\u0131l hikaye de bu babaya dayanmaktad\u0131r. Yani Verkin\u2019i \u015fekillendiren babad\u0131r. Baba 1902 civar\u0131nda do\u011far ve 1915 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130stanbul’da oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in de hayatta kalabilir. Ailesi daha \u00f6nce \u00e7ok zengin olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen bu tarihten sonra her \u015feyini yitirir. Ama adam sonras\u0131nda elektrik alan\u0131nda uzmanla\u015f\u0131r, bir \u015firket kurar ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de elektri\u011fin yayg\u0131nla\u015fmas\u0131 konusunda b\u00fcy\u00fck katk\u0131lar sunar. Yani bir \u015fekilde \u0130stanbul\u2019a elektri\u011fi getirenlerden olur.<\/p>\n

\u0130stanbul\u2019da 20. y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n ba\u015flar\u0131nda asl\u0131nda elektri\u011fin ilk etapta H\u0131ristiyan az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131n ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u00f6lgelere geldi\u011fi biliniyor. Hatta bu konu d\u00f6nemin romanlar\u0131nda da kar\u015f\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7\u0131kar. \u00d6rne\u011fin Peyami Safa, bir roman\u0131nda Beyo\u011flu ya da \u015ei\u015fli gibi b\u00f6lgelerin geceleri \u0131\u015f\u0131l \u0131\u015f\u0131l ve ayd\u0131nl\u0131k, M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar\u0131n yasad\u0131\u011f\u0131 Sultanahmet gibi mahallelerde ise karanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n hakim oldu\u011funu yazar.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015e\u00f6yle g\u00f6rmek laz\u0131m bunu: Elektrik ve elektrikle ayd\u0131nlanma d\u00f6nemin yenilik\u00e7i ekonomisi say\u0131l\u0131yordu. K\u0131saca, Verkin d\u00fcnyaya geldi\u011finde 2. D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131 hen\u00fcz yeni sona ermi\u015ftir ve Verkin\u2019in babas\u0131 elektrik i\u015fiyle inan\u0131lmaz zengin bir adam olmu\u015ftur. Tabii bu zenginlik de her defas\u0131nda hayat\u0131n\u0131 kurtarm\u0131\u015f, bask\u0131lardan korunmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Yani bir yandan \u00e7ok zengin bir aileye do\u011fdu\u011fu i\u00e7in ayr\u0131cal\u0131kl\u0131 bir kad\u0131nd\u0131r Verkin, ama bir yandan da hep \u00f6tekile\u015ftirilmi\u015ftir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc 1955 y\u0131l\u0131ndan itibaren kovu\u015fturmalar nedeniyle ya da \u00fclkeyi terk etmek zorunda kald\u0131klar\u0131 i\u00e7in Ermeni ve H\u0131ristiyanlar\u0131n \u0130stanbul\u2019daki ya\u015famlar\u0131 zorla\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bu olgu da yine \u0130stanbul\u2019un tarihine dairdir.<\/p>\n

‘ROMANDA B\u0130\u00c7\u0130M NED\u0130R K\u0130?’<\/h5>\n

Roman\u0131n bi\u00e7ime gelmek istiyorum. Neredeyse r\u00f6portaj tarz\u0131 bir anlat\u0131m hakim romana. Ben anlat\u0131c\u0131 yazar David, Verkin\u2019le ve Verkin\u2019in yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131 Nevin\u2019le bir otomobilin i\u00e7inde hareket halindedir. \u00d6nce \u0130stanbul\u2019un i\u00e7inde gezdirirler bizi, sonra T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin farkl\u0131 noktalar\u0131na giderler. Ve Verkin hayat\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131r. Ben anlat\u0131c\u0131 sorar o yan\u0131tlar. Asl\u0131nda pek al\u0131\u015f\u0131lageldik bir roman formu de\u011fil ama metin tam da bu dolayl\u0131 anlat\u0131mla yolunu buluyor.<\/strong><\/p>\n

E\u011fer, Rachel Cusk\u2019\u0131n ‘\u00c7er\u00e7eve \u00dc\u00e7lemesi’ ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 alt\u0131ndaki kitaplar\u0131n\u0131 okuduysan\u0131z bilirsiniz, o da benimkine benzer bir \u015fey yap\u0131yor. Bu romanlarda bir yazar vard\u0131r, bir kad\u0131n yazar. Yazar ilk kitapta Atina\u2019da, ikincisinde Londra\u2019dad\u0131r ve s\u00fcrekli bir \u015feyler anlatan insanlarla bulu\u015fur, kendisi ise ben anlat\u0131c\u0131 olarak hemen hemen hi\u00e7 yoktur. Yazar kendi hikayesine ancak ba\u015fkalar\u0131n\u0131n hayat hikayesini anlatmaya vesile olmak i\u00e7in de\u011finir. Yani demem \u015fu ki, romanda bi\u00e7im nedir ki? Bir s\u00fcr\u00fc bi\u00e7im var, sadece mektuplardan bir roman da yazabilirsiniz.<\/p>\n

Tabii burada ak\u0131ll\u0131ca bir se\u00e7im yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f bence ki bununla da s\u00f6z\u00fc Pierre Loti\u2019ye getirmek istiyorum. 19. y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n sonlar\u0131nda \u0130stanbul\u2019da ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f ve Osmanl\u0131 haremi \u00fczerine romanlar yazm\u0131\u015f olan bu Frans\u0131z yazar ayn\u0131 zamanda oryantalist oldu\u011fu gerek\u00e7esiyle Naz\u0131m Hikmet taraf\u0131ndan ele\u015ftirilmi\u015ftir. Sizin kitab\u0131n\u0131zda ise roman\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda, Pierre Loti\u2019nin bir roman\u0131 hakk\u0131nda konu\u015fulur. \u015eunu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7as\u0131: Acaba kitab\u0131n bi\u00e7imini Pierre Loti gibi oryantalizm tuza\u011f\u0131na d\u00fc\u015fmemek i\u00e7in de se\u00e7mi\u015f olabilir misiniz?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Umar\u0131m d\u00fc\u015fmemi\u015fimdir bu tuza\u011fa. Pierre Loti\u2019nin s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011finiz o roman\u0131nda da bir yazar gelir \u0130stanbul\u2019a, asl\u0131nda \u00f6zel haremlerine kapat\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ve yard\u0131ma muhta\u00e7 iki Osmanl\u0131 kad\u0131n\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r bu ki\u015fi. \u00c7ok iyi Frans\u0131zca konu\u015fan bu iki kad\u0131nla gizlice bulu\u015fmaktad\u0131r. Tabii benim durumumu ironik bir benzetme olarak da g\u00f6rebilirsiniz: Neredeyse 120 y\u0131l aradan sonra yine Avrupa\u2019dan bir yazar \u0130stanbul\u2019a gelir ve burada bamba\u015fka bir d\u00fcnyayla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015f\u0131r. Tabii oryantalizm tuza\u011f\u0131 Bat\u0131l\u0131 yazar i\u00e7in daima bir tehdittir, ben de bu tuza\u011fa yakalanmamak i\u00e7in oryantalizmi ba\u015ftan itibaren konu haline getirdim san\u0131r\u0131m.<\/p>\n

”VERK\u0130N’, AYAKTA VE HAYATTA KALMA M\u00dcCADELES\u0130N\u0130N ROMANIDIR’<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ak\u0131ll\u0131ca bir y\u00f6ntem. Peki siz bu roman\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 nas\u0131l \u00f6zetlerdiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

K\u0131sa ve soyutla\u015ft\u0131rarak anlatmam gerekirse: ‘Verkin’ ayakta ve hayatta kalma m\u00fccadelesinin roman\u0131d\u0131r diyebilirim. Bir hayat \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fc bu ama ayn\u0131 zamanda \u0130stanbul\u2019da, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de hayatta kalma m\u00fccadelesi vermi\u015f bir Ermeni kad\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fc bu. Ve hen\u00fcz hi\u00e7 de\u011finmedi\u011fimiz ba\u015fka bir konu daha var ki, o da \u015fu: Bu kitap ayn\u0131 zamanda T\u00fcrkiye gibi erkek egemen bir \u00fclkede kad\u0131n olarak kendini ispat etmek zorunda olman\u0131n da \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fc. Tabii sadece T\u00fcrk erkekleri de\u011fil, Ermeni erkekleri de bu romanda pek olumlu \u00e7izilmezler. Romanda anlat\u0131lan Ermeni erkeklerin pek \u00e7o\u011fu bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015famasa da. Verkin tam da bu erkekler y\u00fcz\u00fcnden herkesten daha fazla erkek kalm\u0131\u015f bir kad\u0131nd\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Bu s\u00f6yle\u015fi yazar Menek\u015fe Toprak\u2019\u0131n haz\u0131rlay\u0131p sundu\u011fu iki dilli \u201cLitVers – Edebiyat S\u00f6yle\u015fileri\u201d projesi kapsam\u0131nda yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olup tamam\u0131 podcast olarak yay\u0131nlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

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Bavyera ve Leipzig Kitap \u00d6d\u00fcl\u00fc gibi \u00f6d\u00fcllerin sahibi Wagner, 1971 do\u011fumlu. \u2018Gece Mavisi […]","og_url":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191","og_site_name":"Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi","article_published_time":"2024-10-11T08:10:37+00:00","og_image":[{"width":850,"height":479,"url":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/10\/David-Wagner.webp","type":"image\/webp"}],"author":"admin","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"admin","Est. reading time":"10 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191"},"author":{"name":"admin","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/#\/schema\/person\/096f1d38a12cce57fb855b485ed24c9e"},"headline":"Hayat\u2019\u0131n ve hayatta kalabilenin anlat\u0131c\u0131s\u0131: David Wagner","datePublished":"2024-10-11T08:10:37+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191"},"wordCount":2976,"commentCount":0,"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/10\/David-Wagner.webp","articleSection":["Haberler","Kitaplar-Ele\u015ftiriler","M\u00fclakatlar"],"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"CommentAction","name":"Comment","target":["https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#respond"]}]},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191","url":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191","name":"Hayat\u2019\u0131n ve hayatta kalabilenin anlat\u0131c\u0131s\u0131: David Wagner - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/10\/David-Wagner.webp","datePublished":"2024-10-11T08:10:37+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/#\/schema\/person\/096f1d38a12cce57fb855b485ed24c9e"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/10\/David-Wagner.webp","contentUrl":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/10\/David-Wagner.webp","width":850,"height":479},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=81191#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Hayat\u2019\u0131n ve hayatta kalabilenin anlat\u0131c\u0131s\u0131: David Wagner"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/#website","url":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/","name":"Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi","description":"","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/#\/schema\/person\/096f1d38a12cce57fb855b485ed24c9e","name":"admin","url":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?author=7"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81191","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=81191"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81191\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":81193,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81191\/revisions\/81193"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/81192"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=81191"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=81191"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=81191"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}