{"id":80959,"date":"2024-09-16T03:46:47","date_gmt":"2024-09-16T08:46:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=80959"},"modified":"2024-09-16T03:46:47","modified_gmt":"2024-09-16T08:46:47","slug":"sanasaryan-handan-maral-muzik-ve-dans-grubuna-12-eylul-ve-ermeniler","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=80959","title":{"rendered":"Sanasaryan Han\u2019dan Maral M\u00fczik ve Dans Grubu\u2019na: 12 Eyl\u00fcl ve Ermeniler"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-80960\" src=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN-360x180.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN-360x180.webp 360w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN-768x384.webp 768w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN-560x280.webp 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN-260x130.webp 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN-160x80.webp 160w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2024\/09\/VARTAN-ESTUKYAN.webp 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>12 Eyl\u00fcl darbesinin \u00fczerinden 44 y\u0131l y\u0131l ge\u00e7ti. Etkileri hala s\u00fcren darbenin T\u00fcrkiye Ermeni toplumundaki yans\u0131malar\u0131n\u0131 yazar Pakrat Estukyan anlatt\u0131.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>VARTAN ESTUKYAN<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n<p>12 Eyl\u00fcl Asker\u00ee Darbesi\u2019nin y\u0131l d\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye Ermeni toplumundaki yans\u0131malar\u0131n\u0131, o d\u00f6nem topluma olan etkilerini gazeteci, yazar Pakrat Estukyan\u2019la konu\u015ftuk.<\/p>\n<p>Estukyan, ilk g\u00f6zalt\u0131 dalgas\u0131nda verilen mesajdan, i\u015fkencelerin simge binas\u0131 haline gelen \u2018Sansaryan Han\u2019\u0131n d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fcne kadar 12 Eyl\u00fcl d\u00f6neminde ya\u015fananlar\u0131 anlatt\u0131.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-megaphone wp-block-embed-megaphone\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" title=\"Sanasaryan Han\u2019dan Maral M\u00fczik\u2019e ve Dans Grubu\u2019na: 12 Eyl\u00fcl ve Ermeniler | Vartan Estukyan\" src=\"https:\/\/playlist.megaphone.fm\/?e=PFC5188948530#?secret=J4iyUGGZtD\" width=\"670\" height=\"200\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" data-secret=\"J4iyUGGZtD\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\u2018Bunun arkas\u0131nda halen i\u015flevli\u011fi olan 12 Eyl\u00fcl anayasas\u0131 var\u2019<\/h2>\n<p><strong>-Birka\u00e7 g\u00fcn \u00f6nce 6-7 Eyl\u00fcl Pogromu\u2019nun y\u0131l d\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fcyd\u00fc. Bug\u00fcn 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019\u00fc an\u0131yoruz. Eyl\u00fcl ay\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin para takviminden biri. 6-7 Eyl\u00fcl Pogromu veya Varl\u0131k Vergisi gayrim\u00fcslim az\u0131nl\u0131klara y\u00f6nelik uygulamalarken, 12 Eyl\u00fcl Darbesi t\u00fcm \u00fclke i\u00e7in olumsuz bir tarih. Siz 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019\u00fc nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>12 Eyl\u00fcl, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin bug\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00fc de etkileyen bir d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fcn tarihi asl\u0131nda. 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin do\u011fal gidi\u015fat\u0131 asker\u00ee bir darbe ile kesintiye u\u011frad\u0131 ve darbenin sonu\u00e7lar\u0131 bug\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc de etkileyebilen \u00f6zelliklere sahip. Bunu s\u00f6ylerken \u00f6ncelikle mesela darbenin \u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc olan ve halen y\u00fcr\u00fcrl\u00fckte olan anayasay\u0131 kastediyorum. Bir\u00e7ok maddesinde de\u011fi\u015fiklik yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z halde o anayasan\u0131n ruhunu de\u011fi\u015ftiremedik. Ruhundan kastetti\u011fim \u015feyse bu anayasay\u0131 yapan heyetin ba\u015f\u0131ndaki Profes\u00f6r Orhan Ald\u0131ka\u00e7t\u0131\u2019n\u0131n c\u00fcmlesi. \u015e\u00f6yle tan\u0131mlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 yap\u0131lan anayasay\u0131: \u201c61 anayasas\u0131 devlete kar\u015f\u0131 halk\u0131 sak\u0131nan, halk\u0131n haklar\u0131n\u0131 koruyan bir anayasayd\u0131. Biz \u015fimdi halka kar\u015f\u0131 devleti koruyan anayasa yapt\u0131k.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Bu ifade ile tan\u0131mlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 yap\u0131lan anayasay\u0131, o y\u00fczden de T\u00fcrkiye bug\u00fcne kadar \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckleri k\u0131san, buna kar\u015f\u0131 g\u00fcvenlik\u00e7i kayg\u0131larla devleti korumaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan bir anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n h\u00fck\u00fcm s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u00fclke haline geldi. O y\u00fczden de \u015fimdi sendikal haklar\u0131n\u0131 isteyen i\u015f\u00e7ilere kar\u015f\u0131 polis g\u00fcc\u00fc kolayca devreye girebiliyor veya \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckler isteyen \u00f6\u011frencilere kar\u015f\u0131 polis g\u00fcc\u00fc devreye giriyor ve b\u00fct\u00fcn hak talepleri de kolayca bast\u0131r\u0131labiliyor. Bunun arkas\u0131nda halen y\u00fcr\u00fcmekte olan, halen i\u015flevli\u011fi olan 12 Eyl\u00fcl anayasas\u0131 var. \u015eu anda bu anayasay\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirmek istiyorlar olsalar bile istiyor mant\u0131k ayn\u0131 mant\u0131k. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla daha bask\u0131c\u0131 bir anayasa yapmak \u00fczere bunu de\u011fi\u015ftirmek istiyorlar. Bu da meselenin en ironik, en vahim taraf\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6steriyor bize.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u2018T\u00fcrkiye hep diktat\u00f6ryal hevesleri a\u00e7\u0131k olan bir topluma sahipti\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>12 Eyl\u00fcl zaten toplumda var olan bir devlet sopas\u0131 hevesini kar\u015f\u0131layan darbe olmu\u015ftu. O y\u00fczden de d\u00f6nemin gazeteleri 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019\u00fc ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftiren pa\u015falara hitaben \u201cNerede kald\u0131n\u0131z pa\u015fam?\u201d diye ba\u015fl\u0131klar atabilmi\u015flerdi. T\u00fcrkiye hep diktat\u00f6ryal hevesleri a\u00e7\u0131k olan bir topluma sahipti. \u2018Ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131zda irade sahibi bir diktat\u00f6r olsun ve bizi hizaya getirsin, biz millet olarak hi\u00e7bir \u015fey yapamay\u0131z\u2019 anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 toplumda da kabul g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. 12 Eyl\u00fcl b\u00f6ylece iktidara gelirken tabandan da destek g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f bir hareket olarak kar\u015f\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p>Burada az\u0131nl\u0131klar da farkl\u0131 bir tutum i\u00e7erisinde de\u011fildi ne yaz\u0131k ki. \u00dclkenin az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131 da ortalama yurdum insan\u0131n\u0131n tepkileri ile kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131lar 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019\u00fc. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00f6ncesinde gene sistematik olarak kimi karanl\u0131k odaklarca k\u0131\u015fk\u0131rt\u0131lan, sa\u011f-sol \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 diye tarif edilen kar\u015f\u0131tl\u0131k vard\u0131. Bu kar\u015f\u0131tl\u0131k \u00f6zellikle \u00fcniversite gen\u00e7li\u011finde \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r travmalara, \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r kay\u0131plara yol a\u00e7m\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Hemen her g\u00fcn bir eylem yap\u0131l\u0131yor ve bu eylemde insanlar \u00f6l\u00fcyordu. Sertlerde, mahallelerde kahvehaneler kutupla\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Birisi birinin kahvesi, birisi \u00f6b\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn kahvesi, kahvehaneler kur\u015funlan\u0131yordu. Otob\u00fcs duraklar\u0131nda otob\u00fcs bekleyen insanlar\u0131n \u00fczerine yay\u0131l\u0131m ate\u015fi a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131yordu. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlar sonradan sistem taraf\u0131ndan \u00f6zellikle istenen \u015feyler olarak de\u011ferlendirildi. O g\u00fcn\u00fcn h\u00fck\u00fcmetleri taraf\u0131ndan ya da derin yap\u0131lar\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan tasarlanan, kurgulanan, arzulanan \u015feylerdi. Bunlarla toplumun b\u00f6yle bir fa\u015fist diktat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011fe haz\u0131rlanmas\u0131 sa\u011flanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Nitekim darbeden hemen sonra b\u00fct\u00fcn bu eylemler b\u0131\u00e7akla kesilmi\u015f gibi an\u0131nda sona erdiler, bir daha b\u00f6yle \u015feyler ya\u015fanmad\u0131. Bu da askerlerin ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131 olarak g\u00f6sterildi. \u201cSiviller y\u00f6netemiyorlar, o y\u00fczden T\u00fcrk Silahl\u0131 Kuvvetleri emir komuta zinciri i\u00e7inde y\u00f6netime el koydu\u201d dendi\u011finde T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir\u00e7ok insan salt bu ve benzeri kayg\u0131larla sevindiler. Ama sonras\u0131nda o y\u00f6netime el koyman\u0131n nas\u0131l a\u011f\u0131r bir bask\u0131 ortam\u0131 yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hep birlikte tan\u0131kl\u0131k ettik.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Az \u00f6nce anayasa oylamas\u0131nda az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n da toplumun genelinden farkl\u0131 bir tutum sergilemedi\u011fine de\u011findiniz. Neredeyse %91,5\u2019e yak\u0131n bir oranla \u2018evet\u2019 oyu kullan\u0131larak o d\u00f6nem yeni anayasa kabul edildi. Yani az\u0131nl\u0131klar da bu %91,5\u2019luk dilime dahil miydi? Bunu s\u00f6yleyebilir miyiz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Evet, fakat bunlar sadece g\u00f6zlemler. Bu konuda elimizde somut veriler yoktur. Hi\u00e7bir zaman hangi grubun ne oranda \u2018evet\u2019 veya \u2018hay\u0131r\u2019 dedi\u011fini somut olarak bilmemiz m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. Ancak somut olarak g\u00f6rebildi\u011fimiz tek bir \u015fey varsa, \u00f6zellikle G\u00fcneydo\u011fu Anadolu b\u00f6lgesinde, yani K\u00fcrt n\u00fcfusun yo\u011fun ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u00f6lgelerde %8,5 \u2018hay\u0131r\u2019, %25-30\u2019lara kadar y\u00fckselmi\u015fti yer yer. Onun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda b\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehirlerde kimin kime oy verdi\u011fini sadece g\u00f6zlemlerle tahmin etmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Sadece konu\u015fmalardan, bizim tan\u0131k oldu\u011fumuz konu\u015fmalardan o temay\u00fclleri, o e\u011filimleri tahmin etmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Somut bir veri hi\u00e7bir zaman olmad\u0131, olmayacak da.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u201812 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019le birlikte bunlar topyek\u00fbn kesildi ve bu kesinti bug\u00fcne kadar da s\u00fcr\u00fcyor\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>-Peki siz o d\u00f6nemki g\u00f6zlemlerinizi hat\u0131rl\u0131yor musunuz? Yak\u0131n \u00e7evrenizde veya Ermeni toplumunun farkl\u0131 kesimlerinde fikir ayr\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131 var m\u0131yd\u0131? O d\u00f6nem bu anayasa oylamas\u0131 Ermeni toplumu i\u00e7erisinde nas\u0131l tart\u0131\u015fmalara konu oluyordu, nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriliyordu, hat\u0131rl\u0131yor musunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00d6ncelikle, \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar bitti\u011fi gibi tart\u0131\u015fma ortamlar\u0131 da bitti. \u0130nsanlar konu\u015fmaktan \u00e7ekinir, sak\u0131n\u0131r oldular. 12 Eyl\u00fcl, b\u00fct\u00fcn topluma, T\u00fcrkiye toplumuna b\u00fcy\u00fck bir korku iklimi de empoze etti. Ermenilere de, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla di\u011fer az\u0131nl\u0131klara da ayn\u0131 iklim dayat\u0131ld\u0131. \u0130nsanlar kolay kolay tart\u0131\u015fm\u0131yorlard\u0131. Ondan \u00f6ncesinde ben hat\u0131rlar\u0131m dolmu\u015f seyahatlerinde bile, \u00f6rne\u011fin Taksim\u2019den Emin\u00f6n\u00fc\u2019ne kadar giden bir dolmu\u015fun i\u00e7erisinde bile insanlar rahat rahat siyasete dair konu\u015fur, g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f belirtirken, 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019le birlikte bunlar topyek\u00fbn kesildi ve bu kesinti bug\u00fcne kadar da s\u00fcr\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n<p>Bug\u00fcne kadar insanlar art\u0131k siyaset konusunda tan\u0131mad\u0131klar\u0131yla konu\u015fmaktan sak\u0131n\u0131yorlar. Tan\u0131d\u0131klar\u0131yla, kapal\u0131 \u00e7evreler i\u00e7erisinde, ev i\u00e7lerinde veya arkada\u015f bulu\u015fmalar\u0131nda konu\u015fulanlara gelince, \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fun bu bask\u0131y\u0131 onaylayan bir tutum i\u00e7erisinde oldu\u011fu, buna kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131k gitgide daha s\u0131k duyulan cezaevlerindeki zul\u00fcm, i\u015fkence, i\u015fkence alt\u0131nda \u00f6l\u00fcm haberlerinin ise inan\u0131lmamaya gayret edilerek dinlendi\u011fine tan\u0131k oldum. \u0130nsanlar bunun ger\u00e7ek olamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, olmamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorlard\u0131 \u00e7o\u011funlukla. Bu haberler zaman zaman s\u0131z\u0131yordu. Cezaevinde, i\u015fkence alt\u0131nda \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclen insanlar\u0131n hik\u00e2yeleri zaman zaman duyuluyordu ama bunlar hep yalan olarak tan\u0131mlan\u0131yordu h\u00fck\u00fcmet taraf\u0131ndan ve toplumun da geni\u015f\u00e7e bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc bunun yalan olabilme ihtimalini daha \u00e7ok seviyordu.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u2018\u00dcniversiteler bir defadan apolitik oldular\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>-S\u00f6ylediklerinizden, g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde insanlar\u0131n toplum i\u00e7erisinde apolitikle\u015fmesinin asl\u0131nda ba\u015flang\u0131c\u0131n\u0131n 1980 Asker\u00ee Darbesi oldu\u011funu anl\u0131yorum. Sizce bu do\u011fru mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Evet, bu tespit do\u011frudur \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu politikle\u015fme meselesinde \u00e7ok \u00e7arp\u0131c\u0131 bir alan \u00fcniversitelerdir \u00f6rne\u011fin. \u00dcniversiteler bir defadan apolitik oldular. O zamandan tan\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131 hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum mesela. Bir arkada\u015f\u0131m, \u0130stanbul \u00dcniversitesi Di\u015f Hekimli\u011fi Fak\u00fcltesi\u2019nin kantinini \u015f\u00f6yle tan\u0131mlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131: Daha bir hafta \u00f6nce her bir k\u00f6\u015fesinde farkl\u0131 masalarda alevli tart\u0131\u015fmalar dinlemeye al\u0131\u015f\u0131k oldu\u011fumuz kantinde bir hafta sonra kula\u011f\u0131nda Walkman\u2019le kendi etraf\u0131nda sal\u0131nan adamlara rastlamaya ba\u015flad\u0131k. Ayn\u0131 adamlard\u0131 bunlar, ayn\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenci kitlesiydi. Bask\u0131, korkutma ve sindirme her yerde egemen olmu\u015ftu ve b\u00fct\u00fcn bir toplumun apolitik olmas\u0131na, depolitizasyonuna sebep olmu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u2018Ama\u00e7 g\u00f6zda\u011f\u0131 verilmesiydi ilk 10-12 kadar insan g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131 ve bunlar\u0131n ilk ortak \u00f6zellikleri apolitik olmalar\u0131yd\u0131\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>-Tabii, o zaman \u00fcniversiteler siyasi anlamda \u00e7ok hareketli. \u00dcniversitelerde, \u00f6zellikle T\u00fcrkiye Kom\u00fcnist Partisi \u00fcyesi \u00e7ok say\u0131da Ermeni gen\u00e7 de vard\u0131 ve o d\u00f6nem \u00e7ok say\u0131da Ermeni de g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131. Bu g\u00f6zalt\u0131lar\u0131 ikiye b\u00f6lebiliriz belki. Bunlardan bir k\u0131sm\u0131 siyasi g\u00f6zalt\u0131lard\u0131. Ger\u00e7ekten de siyasi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceleri veya eylemleri y\u00fcz\u00fcnden g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nanlard\u0131. Bir k\u0131sm\u0131 da toplumun \u00f6nde gelen isimleriydi asl\u0131nda. Bu isimler mesaj mahiyetinde g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu g\u00f6zalt\u0131lar hakk\u0131nda ne s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz? Ermeni toplumuna \u2018g\u00f6zda\u011f\u0131 verme\u2019 suretiyle yap\u0131lan g\u00f6zalt\u0131lar\u0131 siz nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Burada soruyu sorarken zaten \u2018g\u00f6zda\u011f\u0131 verme\u2019 vurgusuyla \u00e7ok do\u011fru bir noktaya temas ettiniz. Ger\u00e7ekten de ama\u00e7 g\u00f6zda\u011f\u0131 verilmesiydi \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc toplu g\u00f6zalt\u0131na alma furyas\u0131nda iki \u00fc\u00e7 g\u00fcn i\u00e7erisinde 10-12 kadar insan g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131 ve bunlar\u0131n ilk ortak \u00f6zellikleri apolitik olmalar\u0131yd\u0131. \u0130kinci ortak \u00f6zellikleri ise -ki bu \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli- T\u00fcrkiye toplumu taraf\u0131ndan \u00e7ok tan\u0131nan insanlar olmalar\u0131yd\u0131. Herkesin bildi\u011fi insanlar bunlardan biri bir rahipti, gen\u00e7 bir rahip. Birisi cenaze i\u015fleri levaz\u0131mat\u00e7\u0131s\u0131yd\u0131. Birisi bir di\u015f hekimiydi. Birisi bir t\u0131p doktoruydu. Birisi \u00f6\u011fretmendi. Ve b\u00f6yle 10 kadar insan hi\u00e7bir mant\u0131kl\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klama olmadan g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131lar.<\/p>\n<p>O d\u00f6nemin g\u00f6zalt\u0131 ko\u015fullar\u0131 olduk\u00e7a a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131r. \u0130nsan g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131nda hemen ak\u0131betini \u00f6\u011frenmek m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmuyordu. Nerededir, neyle su\u00e7lan\u0131yor, ne zaman yarg\u0131lanacak? Bu sorular\u0131n cevaplar\u0131 hi\u00e7bir zaman net olmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131 o d\u00f6nemde ve bu uzun zaman s\u00fcrd\u00fc. Nitekim ilk yarg\u0131land\u0131klar\u0131nda da rahip hari\u00e7 hepsi de beraat etti. Ama bu onlar\u0131n hayat\u0131nda \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r bir travmaya yol a\u00e7t\u0131. Bir k\u0131sm\u0131 o olaydan birka\u00e7 y\u0131l sonra hayat\u0131n\u0131 kaybetti. O travmay\u0131 kolay kolay atlatamad\u0131lar. Travmaya ba\u011fl\u0131 olarak ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 en yak\u0131nlar\u0131ndakine bile anlatmak istemediler, konu\u015fmad\u0131lar bu konuda. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc dedi\u011fim gibi b\u00f6yle bir pratikleri de yoktu. \u015eimdi olsun devrimciler, olsun kar\u015f\u0131 devrimciler, hepsi de siyasi bir \u00f6rg\u00fctlenmi\u015f yap\u0131n\u0131n i\u00e7erisinden geliyorlard\u0131 ve ba\u015flar\u0131na gelenin sebeplerini, boyutlar\u0131n\u0131, hedeflerini anlayabilecek durumdayd\u0131lar bunlara g\u00f6re. Ama bu grup neye u\u011frad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u015fa\u015f\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 adeta. Hi\u00e7bir anlam\u0131 yoktu bu tutuklamalar\u0131n, bask\u0131l\u0131 cezaevleri s\u00fcre\u00e7lerinin. O zamanki en masum i\u015fkencelerden birisi zorla mar\u015f ezberletmek, zorla mar\u015f s\u00f6yletmek.<\/p>\n<p>Biz o g\u00fcnlerin tan\u0131kl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 Hrant Dink\u2019in k\u00f6\u015fe yaz\u0131s\u0131yla biliyoruz. \u2018Tuvalet korosu\u2019 ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir yaz\u0131 yazm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Tuvaleti ko\u011fu\u015fa \u00e7evirmi\u015flerdi \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc, tuvalete kalk\u0131yorlard\u0131 ve orada da koro halinde mar\u015f s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlard\u0131 o zaman 60 ya\u015f\u0131nda ve daha b\u00fcy\u00fck ya\u015flarda olan insanlar. Askerler zorla bunlara mar\u015f s\u00f6yletiyorlard\u0131. Tabii dayak yemeleri de cabas\u0131yd\u0131.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u2018Haf\u0131za k\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r on y\u0131llar i\u00e7erisinde\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>-Siyasi olmay\u0131p da g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nanlar asl\u0131nda bir bak\u0131ma rehinlerdi diyebiliriz. Herhangi bir su\u00e7tan \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc de\u011fil, tamamen keyfi bir rehin vaziyetindelerdi. Bunu ilk duru\u015fmada tahliye edildiler c\u00fcmlenizden yola \u00e7\u0131karak da s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum. Buradan yine bir g\u00f6zalt\u0131 ve i\u015fkence konusuna gelece\u011fim. 12 Eyl\u00fcl ve Ermeniler denince asl\u0131nda b\u00fcy\u00fck toplum taraf\u0131ndan \u00e7ok da bilinmeyen bir ba\u011f da var. Bug\u00fcn Sirkeci\u2019de gayet l\u00fcks bir otel olarak hizmet veren, halbuki hukuki durumu b\u00fct\u00fcn belirsizli\u011fini koruyan Sanasaryan Han, 12 Eyl\u00fcl zaman\u0131nda emniyetin en \u00f6nemli i\u015fkencehanelerinden biriydi. Ermeni toplumunun kendine ait bir m\u00fclk\u00fcn i\u015fkencehane olarak kullan\u0131lmas\u0131na dair bir fikri veya kar\u015f\u0131t g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc var m\u0131yd\u0131? Bir isyan\u0131 oldu mu o d\u00f6nem devlete kar\u015f\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hay\u0131r diyece\u011fim bu soruya, olmad\u0131 diyece\u011fim ne yaz\u0131k ki. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye Ermeni toplumunda da bir haf\u0131za k\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r on y\u0131llar i\u00e7erisinde. Mesela \u2018Siyasi \u015fube\u2019 olarak da bilinen Sanasaryan Han\u0131\u2019n\u0131n ad\u0131 zaten bas\u0131nda, medyada \u2018Sansaryan Han\u2019a\u2019 d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Hatta Demirta\u015f Ceyhun\u2019un bu ba\u015fl\u0131kla bir kitab\u0131 da vard\u0131 \u2018Sansaryan Han\u2019 diye. 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019e gelinceye kadar o han zaten i\u015fkenceleriyle ve \u2018tabutluk\u2019 diye tan\u0131mlanan h\u00fccreleriyle belli bir \u00e7evre i\u00e7in bilinen bir mek\u00e2nd\u0131. Hasdal K\u0131\u015flas\u0131\u2019na, Metris Cezaevi\u2019ne k\u0131yasla Sanasaryan Han\u2019\u0131n 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli bir i\u015flevi olmad\u0131. Oras\u0131 esas daha \u00f6ncesinde, darbe \u00f6ncesinde de bir siyasi \u015fubenin i\u015fkence merkeziydi ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki bir\u00e7ok devrimci oradaki i\u015fkence tezgahlar\u0131ndan ge\u00e7mi\u015ftir. Bir\u00e7oklar\u0131n\u0131n orayla ilgili \u00e7ok \u00e7arp\u0131c\u0131 an\u0131lar\u0131 vard\u0131r. Bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n da an\u0131lar\u0131 falan yoktur \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc be\u015finci kattan merdiven bo\u015flu\u011fundan a\u015fa\u011f\u0131ya at\u0131lm\u0131\u015flar ve sonra da intihar etti diye tutanak tutulmu\u015f insanlardan bahsediyoruz. O \u00e7uvallarla insan d\u00f6vmek, do\u011frudan cop izi kalmas\u0131n, sopa izi kalmas\u0131n diye insanlar\u0131 \u00e7uvallarla d\u00f6vmek, \u0131slata \u0131slata d\u00f6vmek gelenekleri, Sanasaryan Han\u2019\u0131n tarihinin \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli d\u00f6n\u00fcm noktalar\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u2018H\u00fck\u00fcmet \u2018Ali Cengiz oyunu\u2019 diye tabir edebilece\u011fimiz hukuki manevralarla buraya el koydu\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Sizin de sordu\u011funuz gibi asl\u0131nda o han ad\u0131n\u0131 M\u0131g\u0131rdi\u00e7 Sanasaryan\u2019dan almaktad\u0131r. M\u0131g\u0131rdi\u00e7 Sanasaryan \u00e7ok zengin bir Ermeni i\u015f adam\u0131d\u0131r. Bir petrol zenginidir, Bak\u00fc petrollerinin hisselerine sahip bir i\u015f adam\u0131d\u0131r ve Erzurum\u2019da kendi ad\u0131yla an\u0131lan bir okul kurmu\u015ftur. Sanasaryan Okulu. Fakat o okul kapand\u0131ktan sonra b\u00fct\u00fcn varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u0130stanbul\u2019daki Getronagan okulu i\u00e7in seferber etmi\u015ftir. Sanasaryan Han o d\u00f6nemde Erzurum\u2019daki okulun finansman\u0131na destek olsun diye, okulun giderlerini kar\u015f\u0131las\u0131n diye yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Sonras\u0131nda bizatihi sahibi taraf\u0131ndan bu kez Getronagan\u2019\u0131n giderlerini kar\u015f\u0131lamas\u0131 i\u00e7in i\u015flevini kazand\u0131 ve okulun vakfiyesi de T\u00fcrkiye Ermeni Patrkili\u011fi\u2019ne teslim edildi. Yani ki\u015fisel bir vak\u0131f de\u011fil, Patrikhane\u2019nin bir vakf\u0131 olarak i\u015flev g\u00f6rd\u00fc. Bug\u00fcn de Patrikhane nezdinde baz\u0131 b\u00f6yle bireysel vak\u0131flar vard\u0131r. Vak\u0131f derken fonlar demek daha do\u011fru olur. Sanasaryan da bir fon olarak patrikhaneye devredilmi\u015fti ama h\u00fck\u00fcmet \u2018Ali Cengiz oyunu\u2019 diye tabir edebilece\u011fimiz hukuki manevralarla buraya el koydu. Uzun y\u0131llar Emniyet M\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc\u2019ne tahsis etti. Sonras\u0131nda Patrikhane hak talep etti bu yap\u0131 \u00fczerinde. Yarg\u0131 s\u00fcre\u00e7leri devam etti ve s\u00fcre\u00e7 halen bitmemi\u015fken, sonu\u00e7lanmam\u0131\u015fken Vak\u0131flar Genel M\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc bunu sizin de sorunuzun ba\u015f\u0131nda belirtti\u011finiz gibi bir otel i\u015fletmesine uzun erimli bir kontratla kiraya verdi. \u015eu anda oras\u0131 bir otel olarak i\u015flev g\u00f6r\u00fcyor ama hukuki s\u00fcre\u00e7 de bir yandan s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. E\u011fer s\u00fcre\u00e7 Ermeni Patrikhanesi lehine sonu\u00e7lan\u0131rsa muhtemeldir ki otel i\u015fletmesi Patrikhane\u2019nin kirac\u0131s\u0131 olacak. Bu da genel olarak gelirlerden \u00e7ok mahrum olan Getronagan okulu i\u00e7in bir nefes alma kanal\u0131 olacakt\u0131r.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>\u2018Bu aile i\u00e7i bir hik\u00e2ye\u2019<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><strong>-Az \u00f6nce bahsetti\u011fimiz Sanasaryan Han\u2019a el koyma \u00f6rne\u011finden yola \u00e7\u0131karak, ba\u015fka bir el koyma sorusuyla s\u00f6yleyi\u015fimizin sonuna gelece\u011fim. Hat\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131yla, Bomonti\u2019deki \u015ei\u015fli eski Karakolu\u2019nun yan taraf\u0131ndaki arsa, TSK G\u00fc\u00e7lendirme Vakf\u0131na ba\u011f\u0131\u015flanm\u0131\u015f. Ba\u011f\u0131\u015flayan ki\u015fi de Beyo\u011flu\u2019ndaki Markiz Pastanesi\u2019nin kurucusu Avedis Ohanyan \u00c7ak\u0131r. O arsan\u0131n giri\u015finde \u2018Bu bina Avedis Ohanyan \u00c7ak\u0131r taraf\u0131ndan TSK G\u00fc\u00e7lendirme Vakf\u0131\u2019na ba\u011f\u0131\u015flanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u2019 diye bir tabela as\u0131l\u0131. Sizce o d\u00f6nem b\u00f6yle ba\u011f\u0131\u015flar ger\u00e7ekten oldu mu, yoksa bunlar zaten asker\u00ee darbe s\u00fcrecinde zorla el konan m\u00fclkler midir, mallar m\u0131d\u0131r?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Zorla diyemeyece\u011fim. Bildi\u011fim kadar\u0131yla Avedis Ohanyan \u00c7ak\u0131r\u2019\u0131n evlatlar\u0131yla sorunu vard\u0131 ve miras\u0131n\u0131n onlara kalmas\u0131n\u0131 arzu etmiyordu. Bu aile i\u00e7i bir hik\u00e2ye, \u00e7ok da bas\u0131na yans\u0131yan bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Ben bunu dedikodular \u00fczerinden duymu\u015fumdur sadece. Ger\u00e7ekli\u011fini bilemem.<\/p>\n<p>Avedis Ohanyan \u00c7ak\u0131r\u2019a do\u011frudan bunu Kara Kuvvetlerini G\u00fc\u00e7lendirme Vakf\u0131\u2019na ba\u011f\u0131\u015flamas\u0131 i\u00e7in bir bask\u0131 yap\u0131ld\u0131 m\u0131, yap\u0131lmad\u0131 m\u0131 bu konuda hem bilgim yok hem duyumum, b\u00f6yle bir dayana\u011f\u0131m yok. B\u00f6yle bir \u015fey iddia edemem o y\u00fczden ama \u015funu bunu biliyorum. Ayn\u0131 d\u00f6nemde Maral M\u00fczik ve Dans Grubu diye bildi\u011fimiz topluluk, hi\u00e7bir dernek, hi\u00e7bir k\u00fclt\u00fcrel, sanatsal faaliyet y\u00fcr\u00fctemiyorken devletin tevecc\u00fch\u00fc ile bir konser d\u00fczenledi, hem de bunu Atat\u00fcrk K\u00fclt\u00fcr Merkezi\u2019nde d\u00fczenledi. Ama \u00f6ncesinde a\u00e7\u0131klam\u0131\u015flard\u0131, konserin b\u00fct\u00fcn geliri Kara Kuvvetlerini G\u00fc\u00e7lendirme Vakf\u0131\u2019na ba\u011f\u0131\u015flanacakt\u0131. O konser esnas\u0131nda hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum, \u2018Da\u011fl\u0131lar\u0131n Bar\u0131\u2019 diye bir dans g\u00f6sterisi vard\u0131. Bu g\u00f6sterinin sonucunda b\u00fct\u00fcn erkek dans\u00e7\u0131lar bir k\u00fcme olu\u015ftururlar, birbirlerinin omuzlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00fczerine y\u00fckselerek \u00fc\u00e7-d\u00f6rt insan boyutunda bir k\u00fcme olu\u015ftururlar ve o k\u00fcmenin \u00fczerinden de halk\u0131 selamlarlar. O g\u00f6steride de ayn\u0131 k\u00fcmeyi olu\u015fturdular ama en \u00fcstteki gen\u00e7 dans\u00e7\u0131 koynundan bir T\u00fcrk bayra\u011f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kararak sallad\u0131 ve o an b\u00fct\u00fcn salon taraf\u0131ndan tabii ki co\u015fkuyla alk\u0131\u015fland\u0131. Hatta enstantane hemen akabinde yay\u0131nlanan Kulis Dergisi\u2019nin kapak foto\u011fraf\u0131 oldu ve iklim i\u00e7erisinde Maral M\u00fczik ve Dans grubu 12 Eyl\u00fcl fa\u015fizminde bunu yapabilen dernek olarak da tarihe ge\u00e7ti. Onlar bu yapt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 Ermeni gen\u00e7lerinin kendi k\u00fclt\u00fcrleri i\u00e7in yan yana gelmelerini sa\u011fl\u0131yoruz diyerek a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131yorlard\u0131. Ben ve baz\u0131 arkada\u015flar\u0131m bu eylemi k\u0131nam\u0131\u015ft\u0131k, bu g\u00f6steriyi ve \u00f6zellikle de biletlerin Kara Kuvvetlerini G\u00fc\u00e7lendirme Vakf\u0131\u2019na ba\u011f\u0131\u015flanmas\u0131 plan\u0131n\u0131 ele\u015ftirmi\u015ftik. Yeri gelince bunu da bir anekdot olarak payla\u015fmak istedim.\u00a0<b>\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/kisadalga.net\/podcast\/detay\/sanasaryan-handan-maral-muzik-ve-dans-grubuna-12-eylul-ve-ermeniler-110570\">https:\/\/kisadalga.net\/podcast\/detay\/sanasaryan-handan-maral-muzik-ve-dans-grubuna-12-eylul-ve-ermeniler-110570<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>12 Eyl\u00fcl darbesinin \u00fczerinden 44 y\u0131l y\u0131l ge\u00e7ti. Etkileri hala s\u00fcren darbenin T\u00fcrkiye Ermeni toplumundaki yans\u0131malar\u0131n\u0131 yazar Pakrat Estukyan anlatt\u0131. VARTAN ESTUKYAN 12 Eyl\u00fcl Asker\u00ee Darbesi\u2019nin y\u0131l d\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye Ermeni toplumundaki yans\u0131malar\u0131n\u0131, o d\u00f6nem topluma olan etkilerini gazeteci, yazar Pakrat Estukyan\u2019la konu\u015ftuk. Estukyan, ilk g\u00f6zalt\u0131 dalgas\u0131nda verilen mesajdan, i\u015fkencelerin simge binas\u0131 haline gelen \u2018Sansaryan Han\u2019\u0131n [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":80960,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,1,71,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-80959","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-gunumuzde-bati-ermenileri","category-haberler","category-mulakatlar","category-tarih-sayfalari"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Sanasaryan Han\u2019dan Maral M\u00fczik ve Dans Grubu\u2019na: 12 Eyl\u00fcl ve Ermeniler - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=80959\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Sanasaryan Han\u2019dan Maral M\u00fczik ve Dans Grubu\u2019na: 12 Eyl\u00fcl ve Ermeniler - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"12 Eyl\u00fcl darbesinin \u00fczerinden 44 y\u0131l y\u0131l ge\u00e7ti. 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