{"id":79243,"date":"2024-04-30T03:52:33","date_gmt":"2024-04-30T08:52:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=79243"},"modified":"2024-04-30T03:53:13","modified_gmt":"2024-04-30T08:53:13","slug":"lilit-pipoyan-ile-ermeni-muziginin-ruhuna-yolculuk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=79243","title":{"rendered":"Lilit Pipoyan ile Ermeni m\u00fczi\u011finin ruhuna yolculuk"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Hilal Seven<\/a><\/span> \u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n
Hilal Seven, Ermeni m\u00fczi\u011finin g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczdeki en \u00f6nemli seslerinden Lilit Pipoyan ile Londra’da bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdi. M\u00fczikal yolculu\u011fu hakk\u0131nda kapsaml\u0131 bilgiler veren Pipoyan’\u0131n ayn\u0131 zamanda Ermeni mimarl\u0131k tarihi dersleri veren bir akademisyen oldu\u011funu da bu s\u00f6yle\u015fi vesilesiyle \u00f6\u011frendik.<\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n
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Y\u00fczlerce y\u0131ll\u0131k melodilere gitar\u0131 ve piyanosuyla can veren Lilit Pipoyan ile m\u00fczikal yolculu\u011funu; e\u015fsiz sesiyle yorumlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 eserleri ve Ermeni m\u00fczi\u011fine olan katk\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 Agos okurlar\u0131 i\u00e7in konu\u015ftuk. \u0130nceli\u011fi, zarafeti ve duyarl\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131yla insan\u0131 kendine hayran b\u0131rakan Lilit Pipoyan ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z bu \u00f6zel ve samimi sohbeti yay\u0131na haz\u0131rlayan Agos Gazetesi emek\u00e7ilerine sonsuz te\u015fekk\u00fcrler.<\/p>\n

M\u00fczisyen olma hik\u00e2yenizle ba\u015flayal\u0131m. M\u00fczi\u011fe ilginiz ne zaman, nas\u0131l ba\u015flad\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Babam ressamd\u0131, annemse ekonomist. Ama annem m\u00fczi\u011fe \u00e7ok ilgili ve bu konuda yetenekliydi. Ailecek \u015fark\u0131 s\u00f6ylemeyi \u00e7ok seviyorduk, ancak profesyonel m\u00fczisyenler de\u011fildik.<\/p>\n

Sovyetler Birli\u011fi\u2019nde, \u00f6zellikle Ermenistan\u2019da, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 m\u00fczik okullar\u0131na yazd\u0131rmak yayg\u0131n ve de\u011ferli bir gelenekti. Neredeyse her aile, \u00e7ocu\u011funu m\u00fczik okuluna g\u00f6nderirdi, annem de beni bir m\u00fczik okuluna yazd\u0131rd\u0131. Orada hem piyano \u00e7almay\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendim hem de m\u00fczik teorisi ve tarihine yo\u011funla\u015ft\u0131m.<\/p>\n

\u0130lk alb\u00fcmlerinizde gitar odakl\u0131 besteleriniz \u00e7o\u011funluktayken zamanla yayl\u0131 ve elektronik enstr\u00fcmanlardan olu\u015fan kompozisyonlara daha \u00e7ok yer verir oldunuz. M\u00fczi\u011finizde zamanla g\u00f6r\u00fclen bu de\u011fi\u015fimden bahseder misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta odak noktam solo gitar veya piyanoydu, ancak zamanla bestelerime \u00e7e\u015fitli telli enstr\u00fcmanlar\u0131 dahil etmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m. Bu s\u00fcre\u00e7, s\u00fcrekli olarak yeni m\u00fczikal sesler ve tarzlar ke\u015ffetmemi sa\u011fl\u0131yor ve beni bir m\u00fczisyen olarak s\u00fcrekli geli\u015ftiriyor.<\/p>\n

Sadece gitar veya piyano \u00e7ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131zda, m\u00fczi\u011finiz minimalist bir yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 yans\u0131t\u0131r, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc sadece bir enstr\u00fcman devrede olur. Ancak, rit\u00fcelist bir uyumu i\u015fime katma fikrine her zaman \u00e7ekilmi\u015fimdir. Birka\u00e7 alb\u00fcm\u00fcmde, bir yayl\u0131 d\u00f6rtl\u00fcs\u00fc, birka\u00e7 nefesli enstr\u00fcman ve hafif perk\u00fcsyon gibi farkl\u0131 enstr\u00fcmanlar\u0131 i\u00e7eren \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131m oldu. Bu yakla\u015f\u0131m kariyerim boyunca devam etti ve yeni par\u00e7alar olu\u015ftururken de bu \u00e7e\u015fitlili\u011fi korudum. \u0130lgin\u00e7 olan, son par\u00e7alar\u0131mda genellikle gitar veya piyano kullanmay\u0131 b\u0131rakm\u0131\u015f olmamd\u0131r, sadece telli enstr\u00fcmanlara odaklanmay\u0131 tercih ettim. Bu de\u011fi\u015fiklik, kendimi hangi t\u00fcr\u00fcn i\u00e7inde oldu\u011fumu sorgulamama neden oldu.<\/p>\n

Dinleyenleri mest eden hepsi birbirinden g\u00fczel olan \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 nas\u0131l yaz\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7ta, \u015fark\u0131 yazmay\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyordum. \u015eark\u0131 s\u00f6ylemeye ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131mda, genellikle ba\u015fka yazarlar\u0131n eserlerini seslendirir veya geleneksel halk \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 yorumlar, kendi dokunu\u015fumu ve hafif enstr\u00fcmantasyonu ekleyerek onlar\u0131 yeniden \u015fekillendirirdim. Kendimi sadece bir yorumcu olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcrd\u00fcm ve \u00f6yle davran\u0131rd\u0131m. Yapmam gereken tek \u015fey, yeni veya unutulmu\u015f \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 tercih etmekti. Onlar\u0131 hayata geri d\u00f6nd\u00fcrmek istiyordum.<\/p>\n

Arada bir de kendim i\u00e7in \u015fiirler yaz\u0131yordum, ancak onlar\u0131 hi\u00e7 de\u011ferli bulmuyordum, sadece kendi zevkim i\u00e7in yap\u0131yordum. Zamanla, birka\u00e7 k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck defter biriktirdim. Yak\u0131n zamanda, belki birka\u00e7 y\u0131l \u00f6nce olmal\u0131, bu defterleri tekrar g\u00f6zden ge\u00e7irdim, aralar\u0131ndaki en iyi s\u00f6zleri se\u00e7tim ve onlar\u0131 m\u00fczi\u011fe aktard\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131yla \u2018Gulo\u2019 en \u00e7ok be\u011fenilen \u015fark\u0131n\u0131z. Gulo\u2019nun hik\u00e2yesi nedir, biraz bahseder misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018Gulo\u2019, bir kad\u0131n\u0131 seven bir adam hakk\u0131nda. Bir erke\u011fin g\u00f6z\u00fcnden yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f bir \u015fark\u0131. Benim \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131n \u00e7o\u011fu asl\u0131nda b\u00f6yledir, folklorik \u015fark\u0131larda genel olarak oldu\u011fu gibi. Bu \u015fark\u0131lar erkekler taraf\u0131ndan okunur; \u00e7ok az\u0131 kad\u0131nlar taraf\u0131ndan s\u00f6ylenir, hele de a\u015fk \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131. Do\u011frusu bu eser bir kad\u0131n\u0131n g\u00f6z\u00fcnden s\u00f6ylenebilsin diye s\u00f6zlerini de\u011fi\u015ftirmeye cesaret edemedim. Bazen konserlerde seyirciye bu eserin asl\u0131nda erkekler taraf\u0131ndan okundu\u011funu, ama kad\u0131n oldu\u011fum i\u00e7in bu eseri oldu\u011fu haliyle okudu\u011fumu s\u00f6ylerim. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc eserin hik\u00e2yesini de\u011fi\u015ftirmek istemiyorum.<\/p>\n

Bu hik\u00e2yede adam tam olarak ne s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor Gulo\u2019ya?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Gulo\u2019yu seven adam asl\u0131nda \u015f\u00f6yle diyor:<\/p>\n

\u201cNeden duygular\u0131mla oynuyorsun Gulo? Niye benimle oynuyorsun? Bana yava\u015f\u00e7a yakla\u015f\u0131yorsun, sana sesleniyorum, elinle bir i\u015faret yap\u0131yorsun, ama sana yakla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131mda beni tan\u0131mazl\u0131ktan geliyorsun. Evinin \u00e7at\u0131s\u0131nda duruyorsun, sana sesleniyorum ama sen beni yine g\u00f6rmezden geliyorsun. Ke\u015fke seni tan\u0131masayd\u0131m, g\u00f6rmeseydim Gulo, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc kalbimi \u00e7ok k\u0131rd\u0131n.\u201d<\/p>\n

Bu gibi \u015fark\u0131lar, \u00f6zellikle de \u2018Gulo\u2019, \u2018Hayrens\u2019 ad\u0131 verilen ve 10. y\u00fczy\u0131ldan neredeyse 18. y\u00fczy\u0131la kadar olan d\u00f6nemdeki eski Ermeni \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131na g\u00f6ndermeler i\u00e7erir. Bu \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 yazan \u015fairlerden en bilineni de 16. y\u00fczy\u0131lda ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f olan Nahapet Kuchak olmakla birlikte, ba\u015fka \u015fairler de eserler \u00fcretmi\u015ftir. Bilhassa muazzam a\u015fk \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 bestelemi\u015flerdir. Ancak, bu eserlerin sadece s\u00f6zleri yaz\u0131ya ge\u00e7irildi\u011fi i\u00e7in melodileri \u00e7o\u011funlukla ya kaybolmu\u015f ya da folklor i\u00e7inde erimi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

Dinlemeye doyamad\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir di\u011fer \u015fark\u0131n\u0131z da \u2018Yes Saren Gukayi\u2019 [Da\u011flardan Gelirdim]. Bu da eski bir \u015fark\u0131 m\u0131d\u0131r?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Evet, o da yine benzer hik\u00e2yeye sahip bir halk \u015fark\u0131s\u0131. B\u00fcy\u00fck m\u00fczikolog ve besteci Gomidas, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Ermeni k\u00f6ylerini gezerken kayda al\u0131yor o \u015fark\u0131y\u0131, di\u011fer bir\u00e7ok halk \u015fark\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n yan\u0131 s\u0131ra. Ama ne yaz\u0131k ki bu \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n da bir\u00e7o\u011fu yok art\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Ermenice m\u00fczi\u011fin ve \u015fiirlerin di\u011fer folklorik gelenekler \u00fczerindeki etkisi oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Siz de b\u00f6yle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor musunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu hangi zamandan bahsetti\u011fimize ba\u011fl\u0131 asl\u0131nda, yak\u0131n y\u00fczy\u0131llardan, 18. ve 19. y\u00fczy\u0131llardan bahsediyorsak, G\u00fcney Kafkasya\u2019da, Do\u011fu ve Orta Do\u011fu etkilerini i\u00e7eren \u00f6nemli bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr kar\u0131\u015f\u0131m\u0131 oldu. 19. y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n ve 20. y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n ba\u015flar\u0131nda, Tiflis\u2019te, Aleksandropol\u2019da [G\u00fcmr\u00fc] ve Yerevan\u2019da bir\u00e7ok m\u00fczisyen -a\u015fuk ve sazandarlar- b\u00f6lgede e\u015fsiz bir m\u00fczik atmosferi yarat\u0131yordu. Ermeni m\u00fczisyenler de Tiflis\u2019te etki sahibiydi. \u00dcnl\u00fc a\u015fu\u011f (\u00e2\u015f\u0131k) Sayat Nova \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 ve kompozisyonlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7 dilde seslendirir ve icra ederdi: Ermenice, G\u00fcrc\u00fcce ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e.<\/p>\n

Bu d\u00f6nemde, 18. ve 19. y\u00fczy\u0131llarda, \u00e7ok sentetik m\u00fczik \u00f6rneklerine sahibiz, genellikle Orta Do\u011fu m\u00fczi\u011fi kapsam\u0131na girer \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc etkiler Ermenilere \u00e7e\u015fitli y\u00f6nlere gelmektedir, ancak Ermeniler kendi m\u00fczik \u00f6zelliklerini korumu\u015flard\u0131r. Bu zengin m\u00fczikal \u00e7evre \u00f6zellikle son y\u00fczy\u0131llarda karakteristik olmu\u015ftur.<\/p>\n

Size ilham veren, dinlemekten keyif ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z m\u00fczik t\u00fcrleri ya da m\u00fczisyenler var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

20 y\u0131ld\u0131r Ermenistan Devlet \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde Ermeni mimarl\u0131k tarihini \u00f6\u011fretiyorum, ayr\u0131ca klasik Greko-Romen sanat tarihini de \u00f6\u011fretiyorum (ama as\u0131l e\u011fitimim mimarl\u0131k alan\u0131nda). Daha \u00e7ok yo\u011funla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m alan ise genellikle Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn zirvede oldu\u011fu d\u00f6nemlerdir. En parlak d\u00f6nemler Orta \u00c7a\u011flardan itibaren -daha eski zamanlara de\u011finmiyorum- 9. y\u00fczy\u0131ldan 14. y\u00fczy\u0131la kadar.<\/p>\n

Kilikya\u2019da bir Ermeni krall\u0131\u011f\u0131 vard\u0131. Son derece geli\u015fmi\u015f bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc vard\u0131; m\u00fczik, minyat\u00fcrler ve mimari de dahil olmak \u00fczere, ayr\u0131ca harika ba\u015fkenti Ani ile Bagratuni Krall\u0131\u011f\u0131 da vard\u0131. Baz\u0131 harika an\u0131tlar\u0131 h\u00e2l\u00e2 orada duruyor.<\/p>\n

Gen\u00e7li\u011fimden beri, o d\u00f6nemin sanat ve m\u00fczi\u011fini ke\u015ffetmeyi arzulad\u0131m, arzulad\u0131\u011f\u0131m en y\u00fcksek ifade, Orta \u00c7a\u011f Ermeni din\u00ee m\u00fczi\u011fi. Elbette halk m\u00fczi\u011fi de. Eklemek istiyorum ki, klasik bir m\u00fczik e\u011fitimi ald\u0131m. Bu nedenle, bu klasik Avrupa ve klasik Ermeni m\u00fczik arka plan\u0131, Ermeni geleneklerine olan anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131m\u0131 etkiler. Bu da \u015fark\u0131 tarz\u0131m\u0131 etkiliyor.<\/p>\n

Eski par\u00e7alar\u0131n\u0131za k\u0131yasla \u015fimdilerde m\u00fczi\u011finiz daha \u00e7ok umut, ne\u015fe ve canl\u0131l\u0131k ta\u015f\u0131yor. Bu d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm nas\u0131l ya\u015fand\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Gen\u00e7ken, olsun kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131ks\u0131z olsun kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131, a\u015fk\u0131n t\u00fcm duygular\u0131n\u0131 ya\u015fard\u0131m, \u015fimdi oldu\u011fumdan daha melankoliktim. Ayn\u0131 zamanda iyi e\u011flenirdim. Diyelim ki, o zamanlar rock m\u00fczi\u011fini be\u011fenmiyordum, ama \u015fimdi onun enerjisinden ho\u015flan\u0131yorum. \u0130lgilendi\u011fim m\u00fczik t\u00fcr\u00fc hakk\u0131nda, \u00e7ok say\u0131da isim veremem ama geni\u015f bir zevke sahibim. Bu y\u00fczden \u00e7ok k\u00fclt\u00fcrl\u00fc m\u00fczikten ho\u015flan\u0131yorum, yaln\u0131zca Uzak Do\u011fu hari\u00e7, o alan\u0131 tercih etmiyorum. Bir keresinde, Sayat Nova\u2019n\u0131n ad\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yan yerel bir m\u00fczik okulunda bir konserdeydim, K\u00fcrt bir topluluk performans sergiledi, m\u00fczikleri g\u00fczeldi. Avrupa ve Amerikan m\u00fczi\u011fine gelince, klasik ve \u00e7a\u011fda\u015f t\u00fcrlerden her ikisini de dinlemekten keyif al\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den herhangi bir m\u00fczisyen dinliyor musunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bir keresinde T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bir toplulukla tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, Karde\u015f T\u00fcrk\u00fcler. Onlar\u0131 \u00e7ok be\u011feniyorum.<\/p>\n

Bu s\u00f6yle\u015fi 24 Nisan\u2019\u0131n, Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131n anma haftas\u0131nda yay\u0131nlanacak. Bu ba\u011flamda, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn ve m\u00fczi\u011finin temsiliyetini g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde nas\u0131l g\u00f6r\u00fcyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 s\u00f6yleyen ve ya\u015fayan birka\u00e7 grup, m\u00fczisyen ve trio oldu\u011funu duydum. Ne yaz\u0131k ki, bu gruplar\u0131n isimlerini hat\u0131rlam\u0131yorum, sadece birka\u00e7\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum. Bildi\u011fim kadar\u0131yla Hem\u015finliler k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerini, dilini ve m\u00fczi\u011fini koruyorlar. Ancak, di\u011fer b\u00f6lgelerden emin de\u011filim. D\u00fcr\u00fcst olmak gerekirse, bu konu hakk\u0131nda \u00e7ok fazla bilgim yok. San\u0131yorum, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni m\u00fczi\u011fine odaklanan \u00e7ok fazla m\u00fczikal kolektif yok.<\/p>\n

Eklemek istedi\u011finiz bir \u015fey var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu r\u00f6portaj i\u00e7in \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Birbirimizi tan\u0131mam\u0131z geli\u015ftiricidir. Hayat, birbirimizin ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131, sanat\u0131n\u0131 ve m\u00fczik \u00fczerine nas\u0131l d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda daha da zenginle\u015fir.<\/p>\n

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Hilal Seven \u00a0 Hilal Seven, Ermeni m\u00fczi\u011finin g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczdeki en \u00f6nemli seslerinden Lilit Pipoyan ile Londra’da bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdi. M\u00fczikal yolculu\u011fu hakk\u0131nda kapsaml\u0131 bilgiler veren Pipoyan’\u0131n ayn\u0131 zamanda Ermeni mimarl\u0131k tarihi dersleri veren bir akademisyen oldu\u011funu da bu s\u00f6yle\u015fi vesilesiyle \u00f6\u011frendik. 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