{"id":79145,"date":"2024-04-26T01:52:59","date_gmt":"2024-04-26T06:52:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=79145"},"modified":"2024-04-26T01:52:59","modified_gmt":"2024-04-26T06:52:59","slug":"turk-tarihci-ermeni-soykiriminin-da-holokost-gibi-unutulmayacagini-dusunuyorum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=79145","title":{"rendered":"T\u00fcrk tarih\u00e7i: \u201cErmeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131n da, Holokost gibi unutulmayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131n 109\u2019uncu anma y\u0131ld\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fc \u00e7er\u00e7evesinde \u0130stanbul\u2019da ya\u015fayan T\u00fcrk ayd\u0131n Nesim Ovadya \u0130zrail\u00a0Ermenihaber.am<\/a>\u2018a \u00f6zel bir r\u00f6portaj verdi. Tarih\u00e7i olarak mesle\u011fi hayat\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015flar\u0131nda, \u201c\u0130ttihat ve Terakki\u201d partisine olumlu bir tutum sergileyen T\u00fcrk yazar\u0131, Ermeni meselesiyle tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131ktan sonra, 19. Y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n sonlar\u0131nda ve 20. y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n ba\u015flar\u0131nda ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan partiye kar\u015f\u0131 tamamen fikir ve yakla\u015f\u0131mlar\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirdi\u011fini ifade etti. Nesim Ovadya \u0130zrail ayn\u0131 zamanda \u201c24 Nisan 1915\u201d ve \u201cKrikor Zohrab \u2013 1915 Bir \u00d6l\u00fcm Yolculu\u011fu\u201d kitaplar\u0131n yazar\u0131d\u0131r.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

-Say\u0131n Nesim, bir T\u00fcrk yazar, ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131 ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcr olarak sizin i\u00e7in 24 Nisan ne anlam ta\u015f\u0131yor ve ne sembolize ediyor?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Osmanl\u0131 Devleti\u2019nin h\u00fck\u00fcmranl\u0131\u011f\u0131 alt\u0131ndaki topraklarda e\u015fit vatanda\u015f stat\u00fcs\u00fcnde ya\u015fayan, n\u00fcfuzu farkl\u0131 say\u0131larla ifade edilen Ermeniler, \u00fclkenin her taraf\u0131na homojen olmayan bir \u015fekilde yay\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. D\u00f6nemin Osmanl\u0131 hukukuna g\u00f6re millet olarak kabul edilen Ermeni toplumu ve cemaati bir b\u00fct\u00fcnd\u00fc. Van\u2019daki Ermeni ile \u0130stanbul\u2019daki Ermeni veya \u0130zmir\u2019deki Ermeni bir b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcn par\u00e7alar\u0131yd\u0131. \u0130stanbul\u2019da 24 Nisan 1915\u2019te Ermeni milletini millet yapan en diri unsurlar\u0131 toplanarak, ya\u015fam alanlar\u0131n\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131. \u201cE\u011fer Ermeni halk\u0131n\u0131 koca bir beden olarak d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcrsek, 24 Nisan o bedenin ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131n kesilmesidir.\u201d Ba\u015fs\u0131z bir bedenin ya\u015fayabilmesini, hayata tutunabilmesini tart\u0131\u015fmak bile m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildir. 24 Nisan 1915 ile ba\u015flayan s\u00fcre\u00e7te, bir ba\u015fkald\u0131r\u0131 oldu\u011fu gerek\u00e7esiyle, \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131 Osmanl\u0131 h\u00fck\u00fbmeti, Ermeni toplumunun ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131 kopard\u0131ktan sonra, say\u0131s\u0131 milyonla ifade edilen su\u00e7suz vatanda\u015f\u0131n\u0131 t\u00fcmden cezaland\u0131rm\u0131\u015f ve yok etmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n

24 Nisan sembol\u00fc, 1915 ve 1916 y\u0131llar\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131 Ermenilerine yap\u0131lanlar\u0131 anlatmaktad\u0131r. \u00d6nce ayd\u0131nlar, toplum \u00f6nderleri 24 Nisan\u2019da oldu\u011fu gibi tutuklanarak d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc olmayan yollara \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131lar. Ba\u015fs\u0131z kalan Ermeni halk\u0131 su\u00e7lu su\u00e7suz ayr\u0131m\u0131 yap\u0131lmadan benzer y\u00f6ntemlerle, y\u00fczy\u0131llardan beri ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 yerlerden kopar\u0131l\u0131p \u00e7\u00f6llere g\u00f6nderildiler. 24 Nisan 1915, iki y\u0131l boyunca, Ermenilere Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131nda soyk\u0131r\u0131m tan\u0131m\u0131na giren uygulamalar\u0131 tan\u0131mlayan bir sembold\u00fcr.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Siz \u201c24 Nisan 1915\u201d kitab\u0131n\u0131n yazar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, ayn\u0131 zamanda Bat\u0131 Ermeni me\u015fhur ayd\u0131nlardan, yazar Krikor Zohrab hakk\u0131nda ayr\u0131 bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131z var. Neden bu alanda ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar yapmaya karar verdiniz? \u0130lham kayna\u011f\u0131 ya da sebebi neydi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Ben \u00f6ncelikle Osmanl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n son d\u00f6neminin tarihi hakk\u0131nda okumalar yap\u0131yordum. Hatta \u0130ttihat ve Terakki hakk\u0131nda olumlu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flere sahiptim. 1990\u2019l\u0131 y\u0131llarda d\u00fcnyada ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni meselesi konu\u015fulmaya, yay\u0131nlar \u00e7\u0131kmaya ba\u015flay\u0131nca, bu konudaki bak\u0131\u015f\u0131m de\u011fi\u015fti.<\/p>\n

Bu do\u011frultuda, 1915-1916 y\u0131llar\u0131nda b\u00fct\u00fcn Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131nda Ermenilere uygulanan k\u0131y\u0131m\u0131n, \u0130stanbul k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131 ara\u015ft\u0131rmaya karar verdim. Ermeni taraf\u0131, 24 Nisan 1915\u2019te \u0130stanbul\u2019dan tutuklan\u0131p \u00c7ank\u0131r\u0131 ve Aya\u015f\u2019a g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fclen ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n kaderi hakk\u0131nda, \u201chepsi \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u201d tespitini yap\u0131yordu. T\u00fcrk resmi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fc savunan taraf ise, \u201chay\u0131r, hepsi \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclmedi, b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu sava\u015f\u0131n sonunda sa\u011f olarak geri d\u00f6nd\u00fcler\u201d diye yan\u0131t veriyordu. Benim g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm ise, her iki taraf\u0131n do\u011fru tespit yapmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u015feklindeydi. Bu konuya kendime g\u00f6re bir a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131k getirmek i\u00e7in yola \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Bu konuyu ara\u015ft\u0131r\u0131rken, daha \u00f6nce fazla bilmedi\u011fim Krikor Zohrab dikkatimi \u00e7ekti. \u00d6nce Zohrab\u2019\u0131n kitab\u0131n\u0131, sonra \u201c24 Nisan 1915\u201di yazd\u0131m. Bana g\u00f6re 24 Nisan 1915\u2019in en tan\u0131nan fig\u00fcr\u00fc Krikor Zohrab\u2019t\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Zohrab\u2019dan sonra bilinen ikinci 24 Nisan fig\u00fcr\u00fc ise Gomidas Vartabet\u2019tir. \u0130stanbullu Ermeniler dahi \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc bir ismi saymakta zorlan\u0131rlar. Ermenistan\u2019da bu sorunun yan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ok merak ediyorum.<\/p>\n

24 Nisan ara\u015ft\u0131rmamdan \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131\u011f\u0131m bir di\u011fer \u00f6nemli sonu\u00e7 da, \u00c7ank\u0131r\u0131 ve Aya\u015f konusunda bilinenlerde eksik bilgilerin olmas\u0131 oldu. \u00c7ank\u0131r\u0131 ve Aya\u015f, Ermeni ayd\u0131nlar\u0131 i\u00e7in birer toplama kamp\u0131 ve hapishane idi. Ger\u00e7ekte b\u00fct\u00fcn cinayetler Ankara\u2019da oldu. Ankara\u2019n\u0131n merkezine 2-3 saat y\u00fcr\u00fcme mesafesindeki \u0131ss\u0131z yerlerde i\u015flendi b\u00fct\u00fcn cinayetler. Ve bug\u00fcn bu yerler, b\u00fcy\u00fcyen Ankara \u015fehrinin mahalleleri oldu. Onun i\u00e7in, \u201c\u00c7ank\u0131r\u0131, Aya\u015f ve Ankara\u201d olarak kullan\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n daha do\u011fru oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Son y\u0131llarda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de, \u00f6zellikle baz\u0131 entelekt\u00fcel \u00e7evreler 1915 hakk\u0131nda kendi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerini ifade ediyorlar, hatta bazen anma etkinlikleri d\u00fczenleniyor. Sizce bu s\u00fcre\u00e7 devam eder mi yoksa belirli bir noktadan sonra azal\u0131r ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bu konu gittik\u00e7e kapan\u0131r, anmalar ve benzer etkinlikler durur mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Ben bu konuda iyimser d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenlerdenim. Evet, bug\u00fcn d\u00fcnya ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin ko\u015fullar\u0131 bu konuda umut vermiyor gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Ama ben bu olumsuz ko\u015fullar\u0131n ilelebet devam etmeyece\u011fini ve demokrasi ve insan haklar\u0131 konusunda g\u00fczel g\u00fcnlerin gelece\u011fini tahmin ediyorum. \u0130nsanl\u0131k soyk\u0131r\u0131mlar konusunda giderek hassasla\u015f\u0131yor. Bug\u00fcn \u0130srail\u2019in yapt\u0131klar\u0131 unutulacak m\u0131 san\u0131yorsunuz? Ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131n da, Holokost gibi unutulmayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Bug\u00fcn az say\u0131da da olsa, T\u00fcrk ayd\u0131nlar\u0131nda da art\u0131k 1915\u2019te Ermenilere yap\u0131lanlar hakk\u0131nda do\u011fruyu savunan insanlar\u0131n say\u0131s\u0131 giderek art\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Sizce Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 konusunda T\u00fcrkiye devletinin ink\u00e2r politikas\u0131nda ileride herhangi bir \u015fey de\u011fi\u015fir mi? Yani T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin y\u0131llard\u0131r devam eden yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131nda de\u011fi\u015fiklikler m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fc? Bu de\u011fi\u015fikliklerin olmas\u0131 i\u00e7in ne gibi etkenler rol oynayabilir? Uluslararas\u0131 bask\u0131, iktidar de\u011fi\u015fimi ya da herhangi ba\u015fka bir etken var m\u0131 sizce?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2013 Toplumdaki de\u011fi\u015fmeye paralel olarak, T\u00fcrk devletinin de ink\u00e2r politikas\u0131nda de\u011fi\u015fim olacakt\u0131r. Tabii daha ge\u00e7, ama olacakt\u0131r. Bug\u00fcn K\u00fcrtler benzer bir \u015fekilde \u00e7emberi k\u0131rm\u0131\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar. Unutmayal\u0131m ki, K\u00fcrtler, Aleviler ve ayd\u0131n T\u00fcrklerin n\u00fcfusu k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcmsenmeyecek bir say\u0131d\u0131r. Ayr\u0131ca T\u00fcrkler de zamanla bu ayd\u0131nlanmadan etkilenecek ve sonunda bu de\u011fi\u015fim devlete kadar gidecektir.<\/p>\n

Sorular\u0131n\u0131zla, bana Ermenistan toplumuna selam iletme \u015fans\u0131n\u0131 verdi\u011finiz i\u00e7in te\u015fekk\u00fcr ediyorum.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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