{"id":75108,"date":"2023-07-17T02:26:02","date_gmt":"2023-07-17T07:26:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=75108"},"modified":"2023-07-17T02:26:02","modified_gmt":"2023-07-17T07:26:02","slug":"ruhu-ozgurce-dolasacak-dersimde-harputta-vanda-musta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=75108","title":{"rendered":"Ruhu \u00f6zg\u00fcrce dola\u015facak Dersim\u2019de, Harput\u2019ta, Van\u2019da, Mu\u015f\u2019ta…"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Lora Baytar \u00c7apar<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

Richard G. Hovannisian, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye ilk kez 2006\u2019da gelmi\u015fti. Bir i\u015f, g\u00f6rev veya konferansa kat\u0131lmak i\u00e7in de\u011fildi geli\u015fi. Anne ve baba taraf\u0131ndan Elaz\u0131\u011fl\u0131yd\u0131; amac\u0131, y\u0131llard\u0131r dinledi\u011fi ve hep bildi\u011fi ancak sadece hayalinde ya\u015fatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ata topraklar\u0131nda dola\u015fmakt\u0131. Hovannisian geziye e\u015fi Vartiter\u2019le birlikte, Erzurum\u2019dan ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bense Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019da kat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m ekibe.<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Bu haftaki yaz\u0131mda deprem b\u00f6lgesindeki \u00e2cizlikleri, burada ya\u015fanan olumsuzluklar\u0131 anlatmay\u0131 planl\u0131yordum. Deprem \u00f6ncesi 2000 TL civar\u0131nda olan kiralar\u0131n nas\u0131l 12 binlere \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan, i\u015f\u00e7ilik \u00fccretlerinden, manav, market vb. fiyatlar\u0131ndan, ya\u015famsal zorluklardan… Depremzedelerin var olabilmek i\u00e7in ac\u0131madan, birbirlerine kar\u015f\u0131 fiyat y\u00fckseltmelerinden s\u00f6z edecektim. Deprem sonras\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin en pahal\u0131 \u015fehirleri aras\u0131na girdi Antakya. Ama bu konu \u015fimdilik bu kadarla kals\u0131n; size eski bir hik\u00e2yeden bahsedeyim.<\/p>\n

D\u00fcnyaca \u00fcnl\u00fc bilim insan\u0131, tarih profes\u00f6r\u00fc Richard G. Hovannisian\u2019\u0131 kaybetmi\u015fiz. UCLA\u2019de Modern Ermeni Tarihi B\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc\u2019n\u00fcn kurucusu olan Hovannisian, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye ilk kez 2006\u2019da gelmi\u015fti. Bir i\u015f, g\u00f6rev veya konferansa kat\u0131lmak i\u00e7in de\u011fildi geli\u015fi. Anne ve baba taraf\u0131ndan Elaz\u0131\u011fl\u0131yd\u0131; amac\u0131, y\u0131llard\u0131r dinledi\u011fi ve hep bildi\u011fi ancak sadece hayalinde ya\u015fatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ata topraklar\u0131nda dola\u015fmakt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Anadolu\u2019yu gezmek veya aile hik\u00e2yesinin pe\u015fine d\u00fc\u015fmek isteyen pek \u00e7ok ki\u015fi solu\u011fu Sarkis Seropyan\u2019\u0131n yan\u0131nda al\u0131rd\u0131. Seropyan bu gezi tekliflerini, kadroda benim de olmam \u015fart\u0131yla kabul ederdi. 2001 Haziran\u0131\u2019nda ba\u015flad\u0131k bu gezilere. 2013\u2019te ben \u0130stanbul\u2019dan g\u00f6\u00e7 edene kadar her yaz en az iki gezi yapt\u0131k. Hovannisian da Anadolu gezisi i\u00e7in Seropyan\u2019a ba\u015fvurdu. Ve 2006 y\u0131l\u0131n\u0131n Temmuz ay\u0131nda, aile hik\u00e2yesinin pe\u015fine d\u00fc\u015ft\u00fck. Hovannisian geziye e\u015fi Vartiter\u2019le birlikte, Erzurum\u2019dan ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. \u0130lk duraklar\u0131 olan Erzurum\u2019da Vartiter Hovannisian\u2019\u0131n aile b\u00fcy\u00fcklerinin do\u011fduklar\u0131 yerleri g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015flerdi. Bense Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019da kat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m ekibe.<\/p>\n

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Bu 10 g\u00fcnl\u00fck gezide, Hovannisian \u00e7iftiyle arkada\u015f olduk. Bol bol sohbet ettik; onlara her f\u0131rsatta neler hissettiklerini sordum. Payla\u015f\u0131mlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 yazmak, gelece\u011fe b\u0131rakmak da istiyordum. D\u00fcnyaca \u00fcnl\u00fc bir tarih profes\u00f6r\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye ilk kez gelmi\u015fti ve ne \u015fansl\u0131yd\u0131m ki ona e\u015flik ediyordum. Hovannisian\u2019la Anadolu\u2019yu ve Mezopotamya\u2019y\u0131 gezmek \u00e7ok keyifliydi ama \u00e7ok da kolay de\u011fildi. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gelece\u011fi biliniyordu ve yap\u0131lacak gezinin tehlikesiz olmas\u0131 gerekiyordu. \u015eehir giri\u015flerinde, karakol noktalar\u0131nda, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye geli\u015f amac\u0131n\u0131 anlatmak, tutanaklar imzalamak farz olmu\u015ftu. Hava s\u0131cak, prosed\u00fcr fazlayd\u0131. Bize tuhaf gelse de Hovannisian bunlar\u0131 normal kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor ve devam etmek istiyordu.<\/p>\n

Dersim\u2019de, Munzur \u00c7ay\u0131\u2019n\u0131n kenar\u0131nda onunla yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m s\u00f6yle\u015fi, Agos\u2019un 4 A\u011fustos 2006 tarihli say\u0131s\u0131nda yay\u0131mlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Hovhannisian 74 ya\u015f\u0131ndayd\u0131, \u201cBenim i\u00e7in bir hayal ve r\u00fcya gibi bir gezi bu\u201d demi\u015fti ve Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019dan Chicago\u2019ya uzanan aile hik\u00e2yesini \u015f\u00f6yle anlatm\u0131\u015ft\u0131:<\/p>\n

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\u201cKader, annemin babas\u0131 dedem Sarkis Nalbantyan ve b\u00fcy\u00fckannem Sara\u2019ya 1912\u2019de Chicago\u2019ya g\u00f6\u00e7 etmek oyununu oynad\u0131. O s\u0131ralar annem Siranu\u015f 3 ya\u015f\u0131ndayd\u0131. 1915 d\u00f6neminde b\u00fct\u00fcn akrabalar\u0131m da\u011f\u0131ld\u0131. Ama \u015fansl\u0131yd\u0131m, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc anne taraf\u0131ndan b\u00fcy\u00fckannem ve dedem ya\u015f\u0131yordu… Bu benim ku\u015fa\u011f\u0131m i\u00e7in bir \u015fanst\u0131, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc akranlar\u0131m\u0131n hi\u00e7birinin dedesi ve nenesi yoktu. California\u2019ya ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131lar ve ba\u011f sat\u0131n ald\u0131lar. Annem Amerikan okullar\u0131nda okudu.<\/em>
\nBabam, Kaspar ise Harput\u2019un (bug\u00fcnk\u00fc Elaz\u0131\u011f), Pazma\u015fen (B\u0131zma\u015fen) k\u00f6y\u00fcndendi. Pazma\u015fen, \u00e7ok \u015fenlikli b\u00fcy\u00fck ev anlam\u0131ndayd\u0131. O zamanlar k\u00f6yde 500 hane oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylerler. \u015eimdi gezince 100 ev zor sayd\u0131m. \u00c7ok fakirdi. Bana anlat\u0131lan eski Pazma\u015fen yerle bir olmu\u015f…”<\/em><\/p>\n

“1915 d\u00f6neminde babam\u0131n 2 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir karde\u015fi varm\u0131\u015f. Babam 13 ya\u015f\u0131ndaym\u0131\u015f… Babam\u0131 K\u00fcrtlere teslim eden dedemi ve b\u00fcy\u00fckannemi hi\u00e7 tan\u0131mad\u0131m. K\u00fcrtlerin yan\u0131nda iki y\u0131l kadar kalan babam daha sonra 15-16 ya\u015flar\u0131nda onlar\u0131n yan\u0131ndan ka\u00e7\u0131p Dersim\u2019e ge\u00e7mi\u015f. \u0130ki g\u00fcnd\u00fcr arabayla Dersim\u2019de dola\u015f\u0131rken babam\u0131n bu kadar uzun yolu ge\u00e7ip Erzincan ve Erzurum\u2019a nas\u0131l ula\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Dersim\u2019i de o zamanlar Rus Ordusu i\u015fgal etmi\u015fti. Kafkasya\u2019ya ge\u00e7mi\u015f babam. Orada da sava\u015f vard\u0131 o d\u00f6nemde. (…) 1922 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u0130stanbul\u2019a gidebilmi\u015f. Uzak bir akraba babam\u0131n ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 duymu\u015f ve gemiyle Boston\u2019a gitmesi i\u00e7in ona bir bilet paras\u0131 g\u00f6ndermi\u015f. Ve babam 21 ya\u015f\u0131nda, annemin 3 ya\u015f\u0131ndayken geldi\u011fi Boston\u2019a gelmi\u015f. Hi\u00e7bir mesle\u011fi olmayan babam, bir berberin yan\u0131nda \u00e7\u0131rak olarak i\u015fe ba\u015flam\u0131\u015f. D\u00f6rt y\u0131l sonra California\u2019ya ge\u00e7ip, o s\u0131ralar 16 ya\u015f\u0131nda olan annemle evlenmi\u015f. D\u00f6rt erkek evlat, 14 torun ve 27 torun \u00e7ocu\u011fu sahibi olmu\u015flar. Babam berberli\u011fin yan\u0131 s\u0131ra tarla sat\u0131n al\u0131p zamanla ba\u015far\u0131ya ula\u015fabildi. \u0130yi bir hayat\u0131 vard\u0131. Benim gibi o da biraz \u015fi\u015fmand\u0131. \u2018\u00c7ok yeme\u2019 diye uyard\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda \u2018Bu ne hayatt\u0131r, yeme\u011fe ihtiyac\u0131m\u0131z oldu\u011funda yemek yoktu, \u015fimdi yemek \u00e7ok ama yiyemiyoruz\u2019 derdi. Ba\u015f\u0131ndan ge\u00e7enleri \u00e7ok az konu\u015furdu. \u00c7oklar\u0131 gibi ge\u00e7mi\u015fi \u00f6rtmek, yeni bir sayfa a\u00e7mak istiyordu. Yaln\u0131z (…) \u2018Ah mayrig, ah\u2019 diye say\u0131klard\u0131.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

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Anadolu ve Mezopotamya gezilerinde hep, anne-babalar\u0131n\u0131n do\u011fdu\u011fu evleri g\u00f6renlerin fazlas\u0131yla duygusalla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131na ve evin yeni sahiplerinin kayg\u0131land\u0131\u011f\u0131na (\u201cNeden geldi ki? Acaba evimizi elimizden mi alacak?\u201d) tan\u0131k oldum. H\u00e2lbuki ama\u00e7 gezip g\u00f6rmekten ibarettir \u2013 ge\u00e7mi\u015fiyle ba\u011f kurmak, eksik alg\u0131y\u0131 tamamlamak, dinledi\u011fi hik\u00e2yeyi ger\u00e7ekli\u011fe oturtmak, annesinin, babas\u0131n\u0131n evini g\u00f6rmek, y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc yollar\u0131 hissetmek… Hovannisian, ata memleketini g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7in mutlu oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemi\u015f ve eklemi\u015fti:<\/p>\n

“Art\u0131k benim olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in, so\u011fukkanl\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 koruyarak, biraz uzaktan izlemeyi tercih ediyorum; Gidip g\u00f6r\u00fcyor, resimlerini \u00e7ekip bug\u00fcnk\u00fc sahiplerine b\u0131rak\u0131yorum oralar\u0131.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

Ama k\u00f6ylerin yeni sakinlerinden biraz dert yanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131:<\/p>\n

\u201c<\/em>Yeni sahipleri g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re k\u00f6ylerin ge\u00e7mi\u015fi ve tarihi hakk\u0131nda pek az \u015fey biliyorlar. Onlar\u0131 ge\u00e7mi\u015fe ba\u011flayan tek \u015fey, yabanc\u0131 bir \u00fclkeden oraya gelen vatanda\u015f\u0131n mutlaka ailesinden kalan alt\u0131nlar\u0131 almaya geldi\u011fi fikri oluyor. Onlara \u2018Burada kim vard\u0131, nereye gittiler?\u2019 diye soruyorum, sadece \u2018Gittiler\u2019 diyorlar.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

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Gezi sona erdi\u011finde \u0130stanbul\u2019a d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015f, Amerika\u2019ya d\u00f6nmeden \u00f6nce gazeteye gelmi\u015f, Baron Hrant (Dink) ile uzun uzun sohbet etmi\u015fti. Ayr\u0131l\u0131rken, gezide \u00e7ekti\u011fi foto\u011fraflar\u0131 (y\u00fczlerce karenin yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 haf\u0131za kartlar\u0131n\u0131) kaybetmekten korktu\u011fu i\u00e7in bana b\u0131rakm\u0131\u015ft\u0131; hepsini e-postayla g\u00f6ndermi\u015ftim ona.<\/p>\n

17 y\u0131l \u00f6ncesinden an\u0131lar geliyor g\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn \u00f6n\u00fcne ve Hovannisian\u2019\u0131n \u015fu s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum: \u201c\u015eimdi g\u00fcr\u00fcl g\u00fcr\u00fcl akan suyun alt\u0131nda oturuyorum. G\u00f6r\u00fclmemi\u015f bir manzara\u2026 Fevkalade bir \u00fclke buras\u0131.\u201d Neyse ki art\u0131k onun da ayak izleri var atalar\u0131n\u0131n topraklar\u0131nda. Eminim ruhu art\u0131k \u00f6zg\u00fcrce dola\u015facak Dersim\u2019de, Harput\u2019ta, Van\u2019da, Mu\u015f\u2019ta\u2026<\/p>\n

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Lora Baytar \u00c7apar Richard G. Hovannisian, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye ilk kez 2006\u2019da gelmi\u015fti. Bir i\u015f, g\u00f6rev veya konferansa kat\u0131lmak i\u00e7in de\u011fildi geli\u015fi. Anne ve baba taraf\u0131ndan Elaz\u0131\u011fl\u0131yd\u0131; amac\u0131, y\u0131llard\u0131r dinledi\u011fi ve hep bildi\u011fi ancak sadece hayalinde ya\u015fatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 ata topraklar\u0131nda dola\u015fmakt\u0131. Hovannisian geziye e\u015fi Vartiter\u2019le birlikte, Erzurum\u2019dan ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bense Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019da kat\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m ekibe. Bu haftaki yaz\u0131mda deprem b\u00f6lgesindeki \u00e2cizlikleri, […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":75110,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,70,19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-75108","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-haberler","category-makaleler","category-unluler"],"yoast_head":"\nRuhu \u00f6zg\u00fcrce dola\u015facak Dersim\u2019de, Harput\u2019ta, Van\u2019da, Mu\u015f\u2019ta... - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=75108\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ruhu \u00f6zg\u00fcrce dola\u015facak Dersim\u2019de, Harput\u2019ta, Van\u2019da, Mu\u015f\u2019ta... - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Lora Baytar \u00c7apar Richard G. 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