{"id":62904,"date":"2021-05-17T01:49:44","date_gmt":"2021-05-17T06:49:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=62904"},"modified":"2021-05-17T02:08:42","modified_gmt":"2021-05-17T07:08:42","slug":"hayko-bagdat-ermenihaber-ame-konustu-ii-bolum-karabag-artsakh-akunq-web-sitesi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=62904","title":{"rendered":"Hayko Ba\u011fdat Ermenihaber.am&#8217;e konu\u015ftu: (II B\u00f6l\u00fcm) Karaba\u011f (Artsakh-&#8216;Akunq&#8217; web sitesi)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"html-content\">\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-62905\" src=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Hayko-Ba\u011fdat-1-315x270.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"315\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2021\/05\/Hayko-Ba\u011fdat-1-315x270.jpg 315w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2021\/05\/Hayko-Ba\u011fdat-1-560x479.jpg 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2021\/05\/Hayko-Ba\u011fdat-1-260x223.jpg 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2021\/05\/Hayko-Ba\u011fdat-1-160x137.jpg 160w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2021\/05\/Hayko-Ba\u011fdat-1.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 315px) 100vw, 315px\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><strong><em>Okuyucular\u0131m\u0131za \u0130stanbullu Ermeni ayd\u0131n, \u00fcnl\u00fc gazeteci, yazar Hayko Ba\u011fdat ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z mulakat\u0131n ikinci b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc sunuyoruz. Bu b\u00f6l\u00fcmde Hayko, Karaba\u011f (Artsakh Cumhuriyeti-&#8216;Akunq&#8217; web sitesi) son sava\u015f\u0131, Azerbaycan ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin sald\u0131rgan poliikas\u0131 hakk\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerini dile getirdi.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><strong><em>(R\u00f6portaj\u0131n I B\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc buradan\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ermenihaber.am\/tr\/news\/2021\/05\/10\/Hayko-Ba%C4%9Fdat-Ermeni-Soyk%C4%B1r%C4%B1m%C4%B1\/207438\">okuyabilirsiniz<\/a>)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><strong><em>2016 y\u0131l\u0131ndan beri, do\u011fup b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc topraklar\u0131 terk etmek zorunda kalan Ba\u011fdat Almanya\u2019da ya\u015f\u0131yor. Demokrasi, ifade \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc, genel olarak insan haklar\u0131 ve Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019\u0131 konular\u0131nda \u0131srarc\u0131 ve fedakar m\u00fccadeleyle biliniyor.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; Karaba\u011f son sava\u015f\u0131 ve T\u00fcrkiye: Bu konuyla ilgili ne diyebilirsiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211;\u00a0\u00a0 Tabi ki bu son sava\u015f Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n devam\u0131d\u0131r, ba\u015fka bir \u015fey de\u011fildir. Ben bunu Avrupa\u2019daki parlamenterlere, kamuoyuna \u00e7ok fazla ba\u011f\u0131ra \u00e7a\u011f\u0131ra s\u00f6yledim. Ne i\u015fe yar\u0131yor sizin parlamentoda kabul etmeniz? Yani Fransa\u2019n\u0131n, Almanya\u2019n\u0131n&#8230; \u015eimdi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn ki, benzetmek gibi olmas\u0131n, Yahudi\u00a0 Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131yla bir \u015fey benzetmek ay\u0131pt\u0131r anl\u0131yorum, ama yani nazi iktidar\u0131 yenilmedi, bug\u00fcn Hitler bayraklar\u0131yla \u0130srail\u2019i vuruyor diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn. Bizim ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z budur. Talat Pa\u015fa bayraklar\u0131yla geldiler. DAE\u015e getirdiler. Ben Rojova\u2019ya gittim DAE\u015e g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Yani DAE\u015e getirdiler Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n kap\u0131s\u0131na \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n kafas\u0131n\u0131 kesmeye. Bu d\u00fcnya kamuoyunun Soyk\u0131r\u0131m neznindeki b\u00fct\u00fcn hasasiyetin pratikte i\u015fe yaramad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6sterir. Soyk\u0131r\u0131mc\u0131lar bir daha katliama gelmi\u015ftir ve ba\u015farm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r sonu\u00e7ta.<\/p>\n<p><strong>-Sava\u015f\u0131n sonu\u00e7lar\u0131, taraflar i\u00e7in zararlar\u0131 nelerdir sizce?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Azerbaycan bug\u00fcn Erdo\u011fan i\u00e7in Kafkasya cephesi diye laz\u0131m, Rojova cephesi de laz\u0131m, Akdeniz cephesi de laz\u0131m bir noktada. Azerbaycan bir diktat\u00f6r, ba\u015fka bir diktat\u00f6rle \u00e7ok bir i\u015fbirli\u011fi i\u00e7indedir. \u0130\u015fte \u015fimdi T\u00fcrkiye oraya bir s\u00fcr\u00fc mal satacak, silah satacak, her \u015fey yolunda onlara g\u00f6re. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla onlar\u0131n aras\u0131ndaki ittifak b\u00f6lgede b\u00f6yle keyifli, insana iyi gelecek, b\u00f6lge halklar\u0131n\u0131n lehine de\u011fil d\u00fc\u015fmanca bir \u015fer ittifak\u0131d\u0131r, iki diktat\u00f6r\u00fcn b\u00f6lgedeki endi\u015fe verici durumudur. Azerbaycan i\u00e7in de gariptir yani. Bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye Azerbaycan\u2019\u0131 K\u0131br\u0131sla\u015ft\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. K\u0131br\u0131s gibi, Kuzey K\u0131br\u0131s gibi yapm\u0131\u015flar yava\u015f\u00e7a. O yoldad\u0131r yani. Yavru devlet gibi, ama yerler yavrular\u0131n\u0131 bu zihniyetler. Azerbaycan i\u00e7in de \u00e7ok tehlike\u015fidir onu s\u00f6yleyeyim yani.<\/p>\n<p>Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla b\u00f6lgedeki b\u00fcy\u00fck g\u00fc\u00e7ler, T\u00fcrkiye, Rusya a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda Azerbaycan ne kazand\u0131 bilmiyorum ama ke\u015fke buraya gelmeseydi, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu binlerce \u00e7ocu\u011fumuza y\u00fczy\u0131ll\u0131k korkular\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n, ac\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n yenilenmesine, b\u00fcy\u00fck travmalara yol a\u00e7t\u0131 ve bizim T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de y\u00fczle\u015fme, Hrant Dink davas\u0131, di\u011fer b\u00fct\u00fcn konular i\u015fte denimden beri sayd\u0131\u011f\u0131m kazan\u0131mlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 \u00f6yle bir hale getirdi ki i\u015fte bahsetti\u011fimiz isimler T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin deomkrat ge\u00e7inenleri Hrant Dink cenazesinde yan yana y\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz \u2018Hepimiz Ermeniyiz\u2019 diyen yolda\u015flar Ermeni d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 yapt\u0131. Bu bizim i\u00e7in \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir geri ad\u0131md\u0131r. \u00a0Ama Ermenistan halk\u0131n\u0131n ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bu ac\u0131lar i\u00e7erisinde bizimki i\u00e7in konu\u015fmak ay\u0131p geliyor bana buras\u0131 daha b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ac\u0131 ya\u015fad\u0131, geldik\u00e7e daha \u00e7ok g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum \u015fimdi, ama bizler i\u00e7in de T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de fa\u015fizmin y\u00fckselmesi, sava\u015f tamtamlar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7almas\u0131 hepimize b\u00fcy\u00fck bir geriltme ya\u015fatt\u0131 maalesef.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; Ermeni kimli\u011fi a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de tehlikeler daha m\u0131 derinle\u015fti sizce?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Bug\u00fcn Parlamento\u2019da Soyk\u0131r\u0131mla y\u00fczle\u015fme \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131 yapan Azerbaycan sava\u015f\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin sald\u0131rganl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131nayan y\u00fczde 15\u2019e varan bir politik g\u00fc\u00e7 vard\u0131r. Bu da i\u015fte bizim \u00f6dedi\u011fimiz b\u00fct\u00fcn o bedellerin \u00fczerine, K\u00fcrtlere da anlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in, \u00a0bu konularda onlarla \u00e7ok fazla al\u0131\u015fveri\u015f yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in de, destek oldu\u011fumuz i\u00e7in ve kendi derdimizi anlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in pek \u00e7ok alanda da o geldi\u011fimiz noktan\u0131n tekrar ba\u015fl\u0131yaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum ben, umut ediyorum, ne zaman bilmiyorum.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130\u015fte ba\u015fta sordu\u011funuz o Ermeni kimli\u011fine de i\u015fte daha fazla risk olu\u015fturuyor. Bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrk\u00e7e konu\u015fan Ermeniler i\u00e7in s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum i\u015fte Garo\u2019yu biliyorsunuz tehdit alt\u0131nda, ba\u015fka kurumlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 tehdit ediyorlar, kiliselerimizi tehdit ediyorlar, \u00f6n plandaki gazetecilerimizi tehdit ediyorlar, hepimiz i\u00e7in \u00e7ember biraz daha darald\u0131, biraz daha nefesimiz azald\u0131. Biz halk\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 savunduk ve bar\u0131\u015f\u0131 savunduk ne Garo, ne ben T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki y\u00fckselmi\u015f bu fa\u015fizmin kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda yan \u00e7izmedik, \u00e7ok dik durmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k ve bunun bedelini \u00f6d\u00fcyoruz ve \u00f6deyece\u011fiz daha. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc Soyk\u0131r\u0131m kodlar\u0131n\u0131n geri geldi\u011fi bir yerde T\u00fcrkiye gibi bir \u00fclkede Ermeni olarak siyaset, gazetecilik veya demokrasi m\u00fccadelesi zaten b\u0131\u00e7aks\u0131rt\u0131yd\u0131 \u015fimdi art\u0131k k\u0131l\u0131\u00e7s\u0131rt\u0131 oldu. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla bizler a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan olduk\u00e7a can s\u0131k\u0131c\u0131 oldu. Ama ne yapal\u0131m yani, m\u00fccadeleye devam, kavgaya devam. Bir de \u015f\u00f6yle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn at\u0131lm\u0131\u015f hi\u00e7 bir ad\u0131m bo\u015fa de\u011fildir yani, bug\u00fcn biraz gerilemi\u015f olabiliriz ama orayageldik biz yani, o noktaya geldik, K\u00fcrt meselesinde, y\u00fczle\u015fme meselesinde bir yerlere geldik. Bug\u00fcn burday\u0131zd\u0131r, ama geldi\u011fimiz nokta \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcd\u00fcr, biraz sonra o noktadan devam edece\u011fiz.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"current-author fl\"><em><strong>Yazar: GEVORG KALLO\u015eYAN<\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<div class=\"current-author fl cb\"><em><strong>\u00a0<a class=\"a-none\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ermenihaber.am\/tr\/news\/2021\/05\/11\/Hayko-Ba%C4%9Fdat-Karaba%C4%9F\/207682\">Ermenihaber.am<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<div class=\"cb\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"current-socials\">\n<div id=\"st-1\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons st-left st-inline-share-buttons st-animated\">\n<div class=\"st-btn st-first\" data-network=\"facebook\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"st-btn\" data-network=\"twitter\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"st-btn\" data-network=\"pinterest\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Okuyucular\u0131m\u0131za \u0130stanbullu Ermeni ayd\u0131n, \u00fcnl\u00fc gazeteci, yazar Hayko Ba\u011fdat ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z mulakat\u0131n ikinci b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc sunuyoruz. Bu b\u00f6l\u00fcmde Hayko, Karaba\u011f (Artsakh Cumhuriyeti-&#8216;Akunq&#8217; web sitesi) son sava\u015f\u0131, Azerbaycan ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin sald\u0131rgan poliikas\u0131 hakk\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerini dile getirdi. (R\u00f6portaj\u0131n I B\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc buradan\u00a0okuyabilirsiniz) 2016 y\u0131l\u0131ndan beri, do\u011fup b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc topraklar\u0131 terk etmek zorunda kalan Ba\u011fdat Almanya\u2019da ya\u015f\u0131yor. 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