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Ohannes K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7da\u011f\u0131<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olmak zaten zor, Karaba\u011f Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n alevlendi\u011fi ve ate\u015fkeslere ra\u011fmen b\u00fct\u00fcn \u015fiddetiyle s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc bug\u00fcnlerde daha da zor. Bir\u00e7ok \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 ifadenin muhatab\u0131 olmay\u0131 sineye \u00e7ekmek gerekiyor.<\/strong><\/em><\/h4>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olmak zaten zor, Karaba\u011f Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n alevlendi\u011fi ve ate\u015fkeslere ra\u011fmen b\u00fct\u00fcn \u015fiddetiyle s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc bug\u00fcnlerde daha da zor. Bir\u00e7ok \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 ifadenin muhatab\u0131 olmay\u0131 sineye \u00e7ekmek gerekiyor. Ermeni nefretinin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de tavan yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6nemler daha \u00f6nce de olmu\u015ftu: Karaba\u011f Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n patlak verdi\u011fi 1990\u2019lar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda, ASALA suikastlar\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda\u2026Ermeniler Hrant Dink Vakf\u0131\u2019n\u0131n medyadaki nefret s\u00f6ylem(ler)i hakk\u0131ndaki raporlar\u0131nda her zaman \u2018\u00fcst s\u0131ralar\u0131 zorlasa da\u2019 \u015fimdilerde de Ermenilerin \u2018hain\u2019, \u2018katliamc\u0131l\u0131k genlerinde var\u2019, \u2018vah\u015fi\u2019 vs. oldu\u011funa dair ifadelerin g\u00fcnl\u00fck hayatta, yaz\u0131l\u0131, g\u00f6rsel ve sosyal medyada bini bir para.<\/p>\n

Karaba\u011f meselesinde Ermeni taraf\u0131n\u0131n haks\u0131z oldu\u011funu, Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n i\u015fgalci oldu\u011funu, Karaba\u011f\u2019\u0131n Azeri topra\u011f\u0131 oldu\u011funu vs. d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebilir, bunlar\u0131 savunabilirsiniz. Ama bunlar ba\u015fkad\u0131r, bir topluluk olarak Ermeniler hakk\u0131nda olumsuzluk, hakaret ve \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131k i\u00e7eren ifadelerde bulunmak ve bunlar\u0131 yaymak ba\u015fkad\u0131r. \u0130kincisine kimsenin hakk\u0131 yok.<\/p>\n

Bu meselede Azerbaycan\u2019\u0131n ma\u011fdur ve hakl\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebilir, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla ona destek verebilirsiniz. Do\u011frudur, yanl\u0131\u015ft\u0131r, herkes tart\u0131\u015f\u0131r, kendine g\u00f6re fikrini s\u00f6yler. (Tabii, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de devletinkinden veya \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011funkinden farkl\u0131 bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f serdetmek de bir risk.) Fakat, Karaba\u011f meselesinin \u00f6tesinde, ge\u00e7enlerde \u0130lker Ba\u015fbu\u011f\u2019un yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi, T\u00fcrkiye ile Azerbaycan\u2019\u0131n birle\u015fmesinden, tek devlet olmas\u0131ndan bahsederseniz, bu siyaseten ba\u015fka bir boyuta ge\u00e7er. Bu gibi projelerin ger\u00e7ekle\u015fme ihtimali azd\u0131r veya \u00e7oktur, \u2018b\u00fcy\u00fckler\u2019 buna izin verir veya vermez. Bu ve benzeri sorulardan ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olarak, bu gibi ifadeler Ermenistan\u2019a bilerek veya bilmeyerek (ki bence bilerek) bir mesaj vermek manas\u0131na gelir ki o da \u201cSizi yok edece\u011fiz\u201d mesaj\u0131d\u0131r. Arada, fiziksel veya siyasal anlamda Ermenistan varken, onu yok etmeden s\u00f6z\u00fc edilen birle\u015fme ba\u015fka nas\u0131l olacak? \u201cBir zamanlar\u0131n Turan projesi gibi bu da \u00fctopiktir, tak\u0131lmamak gerekir\u201d denebilir ama unutmayal\u0131m ki o \u2018\u00fctopya\u2019 u\u011fruna ne sava\u015flara girildi, kanlar d\u00f6k\u00fcld\u00fc, ne katliamlar yap\u0131ld\u0131. Kald\u0131 ki, bu gibi ifadelerin sahiplerinin kendilerinin bunu \u00fctopya veya hayal olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcp g\u00f6rmedikleri, sizin ve benim ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fczden daha kritik. Benim kanaatim odur ki, gayet ciddiler ve f\u0131rsat\u0131n\u0131 bulurlarsa ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirmeye de \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rlar.<\/p>\n

Ben Karaba\u011f Sava\u015f\u0131 dolay\u0131s\u0131yla ya\u015fananlar\u0131n \u2018soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n devam\u0131\u2019 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyorum (en az\u0131ndan mevcut durumda). Farkl\u0131 konjonkt\u00fcrlerden, farkl\u0131 zamanlardan, farkl\u0131 fakt\u00f6rlerden bahsediyoruz. Fakat, \u2018Azerbaycan\u2019la birle\u015fme\u2019 gibi ifadelerin Ermenilerin ve Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n tarihsel korkular\u0131n\u0131, k\u00e2buslar\u0131n\u0131 canland\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131, alevlendirdi\u011fi de bir ger\u00e7ek. \u00dcstelik, \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n ideolojilerine, s\u00f6ylem ve eylemlerine, Birinci D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019nda Nuri Pa\u015fa komutas\u0131nda Bak\u00fc\u2019ye giren \u2018\u0130slam Ordusu\u2019na ve tabii ki soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n kendisine bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, bu korku ve endi\u015felerin tarihsel zemininin de oldu\u011funu g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz.<\/p>\n

Do\u011frusu, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Karaba\u011f politikas\u0131nda ve bu politikan\u0131n \u2018atakl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019nda bir taraf\u0131n Azerbaycan olmas\u0131ndan ziyade di\u011fer taraf\u0131n Ermeniler\/Ermenistan olmas\u0131n\u0131n pay\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin bu konuda kraldan \u00e7ok kralc\u0131, neredeyse sorunun sahibinden daha radikal ve at\u0131lgan tutumu bana ilk g\u00fcnden beri tuhaf gelir. Mesela, Azerbaycan benzer bir sorunu varsayal\u0131m ki G\u00fcrcistan\u2019la veya \u0130ran\u2019la ya\u015f\u0131yor olsayd\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye \u015fimdiki kadar \u2018ate\u015fli\u2019 olacak m\u0131yd\u0131, \u015fimdiki gibi Azerbaycan\u2019a g\u00f6z\u00fc kapal\u0131 destek verecek miydi? \u015e\u00fcpheli. Ayr\u0131ca, madem T\u00fcrkiye Azerbaycan\u2019\u0131 bu kadar d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor, \u00fclkenin 30 senedir Azeri halk\u0131n\u0131n kaynaklar\u0131yla zenginle\u015ftik\u00e7e zenginle\u015fen bir ailenin diktat\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p, Azeri halk\u0131n\u0131n egemenli\u011fine ge\u00e7mesi i\u00e7in ne yapt\u0131? Yoksa, Azerbaycan\u2019dan \u00e7ok Aliyev ailesini mi \u2018seviyor\u2019?<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki yayg\u0131n Ermeni alg\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n Karaba\u011f meselesinde T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 pozisyonda etkili olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemek mant\u0131kla ba\u011fda\u015fmaz. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, Azerbaycan\u2019a verilen ko\u015fulsuz destekte Azerilere duyulan karde\u015flik hislerinden ziyade, hadi en az onun kadar diyelim, Ermenilere duyulan d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131k etkilidir. Bir \u015feyin alt\u0131n\u0131 tekrar \u00e7izeyim: Bunlar\u0131 s\u00f6ylememin sebebi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin Azerbaycan\u2019\u0131 bu meselede hakl\u0131 bulmas\u0131 de\u011fildir; bulabilir. Bunlar\u0131 s\u00f6ylememin sebebi, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi y\u00f6netenlerin izledi\u011fi genel tutum, ortaya koydu\u011fu tav\u0131r ve s\u00f6ylemlerdir. Yoksa, uluslararas\u0131 bir ihtilafta tabii ki bir taraf\u0131 hakl\u0131 bulabilirsiniz; mesele, \u00f6yle kabul etti\u011finiz bu hakl\u0131l\u0131k u\u011fruna yapabileceklerinizin s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131d\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc bir taraf olarak Karaba\u011f meselesinde bu s\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131 uluslararas\u0131 ili\u015fkilerde az rastlan\u0131r bi\u00e7imde hayli geni\u015f tuttu\u011funu g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz.<\/p>\n

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Ohannes K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7da\u011f\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olmak zaten zor, Karaba\u011f Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n alevlendi\u011fi ve ate\u015fkeslere ra\u011fmen b\u00fct\u00fcn \u015fiddetiyle s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc bug\u00fcnlerde daha da zor. Bir\u00e7ok \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 ifadenin muhatab\u0131 olmay\u0131 sineye \u00e7ekmek gerekiyor. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni olmak zaten zor, Karaba\u011f Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n alevlendi\u011fi ve ate\u015fkeslere ra\u011fmen b\u00fct\u00fcn \u015fiddetiyle s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc bug\u00fcnlerde daha da zor. Bir\u00e7ok \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131 ifadenin muhatab\u0131 olmay\u0131 sineye \u00e7ekmek gerekiyor. 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