{"id":59458,"date":"2020-10-09T01:50:18","date_gmt":"2020-10-09T06:50:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=59458"},"modified":"2020-10-09T01:59:21","modified_gmt":"2020-10-09T06:59:21","slug":"daglik-karabagda-catismanin-taraflari-azerbaycan-ve-ermenistan-liderleri-euronewse-konustu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=59458","title":{"rendered":"Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’da \u00e7at\u0131\u015fman\u0131n taraflar\u0131 Azerbaycan ve Ermenistan liderleri Euronews’e konu\u015ftu"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Azerbaycan ile Ermenistan aras\u0131nda Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f (Artsakh-‘Akunq’ web sitesi) konusunda \u015fiddetli \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar ya\u015fan\u0131yor. Tarihi anla\u015fmazl\u0131k son zamanlarda yeniden alevlendi. Her iki taraf da bu sefer kimin sorumlu oldu\u011funu tart\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Sivil ve askeri kay\u0131plar var.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

Ge\u00e7en y\u0131l her iki \u00fclke de “halk\u0131 bar\u0131\u015fa haz\u0131rlamak i\u00e7in somut \u00f6nlemler” almay\u0131 kabul etti. Ancak \u015fimdi 30 y\u0131ld\u0131r b\u00f6lgedeki en uzun s\u00fcreli \u015fiddet olaylar\u0131na \u015fahit oluyoruz. Bu kez \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015fka \u00fclkeler de \u00e7ekildi. B\u00f6lgesel \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma tehlikesi artt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Her iki \u00fclke i\u00e7in sonraki ad\u0131mlar ne? D\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131klar ne kadar s\u00fcrecek ve bu neye mal olacak? Uluslararas\u0131 toplum defalarca ate\u015fkes \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131nda bulunurken, bar\u0131\u015f\u0131 tesis etmek i\u00e7in ne gerekiyor? Bu \u015fimdi m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fc?<\/p>\n

Euronews her iki lideri de bu programa davet etti ve ikisi de stratejilerini yan yana a\u00e7\u0131klamay\u0131 kabul etti. Bu nedenle t\u00fcm bu sorular\u0131 do\u011frudan Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 ve Azerbaycan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131’na soruyoruz.<\/p>\n

Azerbaycan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 \u0130lham Aliyev bizimle. Te\u015fekk\u00fcrler zaman ay\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in. Uluslararas\u0131 toplum taraf\u0131ndan gerilimin sonland\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131 ve ate\u015fkes i\u00e7in s\u00fcrekli tekrarlanan sert bask\u0131lar var. \u00c7at\u0131\u015fmalar s\u00fcr\u00fcyor hatta gerilim t\u0131rman\u0131yor. Bu noktada, siz neyi hedefliyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

Azerbaycan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 \u0130lham Aliyev:<\/strong> Ate\u015fkes tek tarafl\u0131 ilan edilemez, kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 al\u0131nan bir karar olmal\u0131. Ayr\u0131ca, fiilen de karada yerine getirilmeli. Bildi\u011fi \u00fczere, 27 Eyl\u00fcl’de Ermenistan bizim askeri noktalar\u0131m\u0131za sald\u0131r\u0131 d\u00fczenleyerek yap\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 tahrip etti, sivilleri hedef ald\u0131. Ermenistan’\u0131n balistik f\u00fcze ve misket bombalar\u0131 da dahil bu sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131 sonucu \u015fu ana kadar en az 30 sivil vatanda\u015f\u0131m\u0131z hayat\u0131n\u0131 kaybetti. Bizim kar\u015f\u0131 ata\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 oldu. \u0130\u015fgal alt\u0131ndaki topraklar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131 kurtarmay\u0131 ba\u015fard\u0131k. Bizim ana hedefimiz Azerbaycan’\u0131n toprak b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yeniden tahsis etmek. Ermenistan bize askerlerini i\u015fgal b\u00f6lgelerinden ne zaman \u00e7ekece\u011fine dair bir tarih vermek zorunda. Bu tarih, Minsk grubu yani arabulucu devletler taraf\u0131ndan da onayland\u0131ktan sonra, g\u00f6sterilen \u00e7abalar\u0131n ate\u015fkes \u00fczerinde yo\u011funla\u015fmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.<\/p>\n

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Ana hedefimiz Azerbaycan’\u0131n toprak b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yeniden tahsis etmek. Ermenistan bize askerlerini i\u015fgal b\u00f6lgelerinden ne zaman \u00e7ekece\u011fine dair bir tarih vermek zorunda.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u0130lham Aliyev<\/div>\n
Azerbaycan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

“Ermenistan ate\u015fkes i\u00e7in yalvar\u0131yor”<\/h2>\n

euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Sizin de s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011finiz \u00fclkeler s\u00fcrekli ate\u015fkes \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131nda bulunuyor, peki bu neden hayata ge\u00e7irilemiyor? Siz neden ivedilikle ate\u015fkes ilan\u0131 i\u00e7in bask\u0131 yapm\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n

Aliyev:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc biz \u00e7ok kez sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n hedefi olduk. Son 3 ayda Azerbaycan’a 3 sald\u0131r\u0131 d\u00fczenlendi. Temmuz ay\u0131nda Ermenistan-Azerbaycan s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131nda, Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’dan uzak bir b\u00f6lgede Ermenistan’\u0131n yeni yerleri i\u015fgal giri\u015fimi oldu ancak ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olamad\u0131lar. Ordumuz onlar\u0131 yenilgiye u\u011fratt\u0131. Ard\u0131ndan 23 A\u011fustos’ta asker ve sivillerimize y\u00f6nelik ter\u00f6r eylemi d\u00fczenlemek i\u00e7in bir sabotaj grubu yolland\u0131. Bu da yenilgiyle sonu\u00e7land\u0131 zira grubun ele ba\u015f\u0131 yakaland\u0131. Ve kendisi de bu anlatt\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131 teyit eden ifade verdi. Son olarak eyl\u00fcl ay\u0131nda k\u00f6ylerimize ve kentlerimize b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7apl\u0131 sald\u0131r\u0131 ba\u015flatt\u0131lar. Size \u015funu s\u00f6yleyebilirim ki bug\u00fcne kadar neredeyse 900 ev ya tamamen y\u0131k\u0131ld\u0131 ya da hasar g\u00f6rd\u00fc. Siviller aras\u0131nda \u00e7ok say\u0131da \u00f6l\u00fc ve yaral\u0131m\u0131z oldu. Ermenistan \u00e7ok ac\u0131 bir yenilgiye u\u011frad\u0131, \u015fimdi de ate\u015fkes i\u00e7in yalvar\u0131yor. Ate\u015fkesi ihlal eden kendileri. Ermeni askerlerinin tamam\u0131n\u0131n ivedilikle ve ko\u015fulsuz geri \u00e7ekilmesini i\u00e7eren Birle\u015fmi\u015f Milletler G\u00fcvenlik Konseyinin kararlar\u0131n\u0131 hi\u00e7e sayd\u0131lar. Stat\u00fckonun de\u011fi\u015fmemesini istiyorlar. Minsk Grubu’nu olu\u015fturan ABD, Rusya ve Fransa’n\u0131n liderlerinin a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131nda stat\u00fckonun kabul edilemez oldu\u011fu bir \u00e7ok defa ifade edildi. Ermenistan g\u00f6rmezden geldi. \u015eimdi Azerbaycan olarak stat\u00fckoyu biz de\u011fi\u015ftiriyoruz ve b\u00f6ylece, krize en k\u0131sa zamanda \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulmak i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli bir ad\u0131m atm\u0131\u015f oluyoruz.<\/p>\n

euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Say\u0131n Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131, bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalarda her iki taraftan da siviller can verdi. Bunu, sizin yol haritan\u0131zla nas\u0131l ba\u011fda\u015ft\u0131r\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n

Aliyev:<\/strong>\u00a0Tabi ki sivillerin hayat\u0131n\u0131 kaybetmesinden dolay\u0131 \u00fczg\u00fcn\u00fcz. Ve tabii bizim amac\u0131m\u0131z bu de\u011fil. Bu sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n kayna\u011f\u0131 biz de\u011filiz. 27 Eyl\u00fcl sabah\u0131 ne yapt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fck, bizim k\u00f6ylerimize semtlerimize sald\u0131rd\u0131lar, biz de kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131k vermek zorunda kald\u0131k. Ancak bizim kar\u015f\u0131 ata\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n hedefinde onlar\u0131n askeri noktalar\u0131, tanklar\u0131 ve silahlar\u0131 oldu. Bizim sava\u015f hatt\u0131nda neler yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z internette mevcut. Bizim \u0130HA’lar\u0131m\u0131z ve di\u011fer ara\u00e7lar\u0131m\u0131z i\u015fgal b\u00f6lgelerinde yaln\u0131zca askeri hedefleri vurdu. Maalesef Ermenistan sahada daha fazla varl\u0131k g\u00f6stermek i\u00e7in sivilleri kullan\u0131yor \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc b\u00f6lgenin demografik yap\u0131s\u0131 \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc. Sivillerin silahlar\u0131n yan\u0131nda durdu\u011fu g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fcler var.<\/p>\n

euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0B\u00f6ld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm i\u00e7in \u00f6z\u00fcr dilerim, Ermenistan da kendi taraf\u0131nda sivillerin \u00f6ld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor ve 27 Eyl\u00fcl’de \u015fiddetin neden yeniden t\u0131rmand\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile ilgili a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n tam aksini \u00f6ne s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakan\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n “Toplumlar\u0131n bar\u0131\u015f\u0131 i\u00e7in somut ad\u0131mlar at\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n gerekli oldu\u011fu” y\u00f6n\u00fcndeki ge\u00e7en y\u0131lki s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc hat\u0131rlatmak isterim ancak \u015fu an tam tersi bir durumla kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131yay\u0131z. Sivillerin ac\u0131 \u00e7ekmemesi i\u00e7in neler yap\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n

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Biz i\u015fgalin son bulmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyoruz. Burada esas mesaj Ermenistan’a verilmeli. Biz Ermenistan’da de\u011fil kendi topraklar\u0131m\u0131zday\u0131z, bizim 27 y\u0131ll\u0131k topra\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u0130lham Aliyev<\/div>\n
Azerbaycan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

“Ermenistan’da de\u011fil 27 y\u0131ll\u0131k kendi topraklar\u0131m\u0131zday\u0131z”<\/h2>\n

Aliyev:<\/strong>\u00a0Sizin de bildi\u011finiz gibi bu krizin sorumlusu biz de\u011filiz. Azerbaycan’\u0131n i\u015fgal alt\u0131ndaki topraklar\u0131nda bulunan Ermeni ordusunun fiili sald\u0131r\u0131s\u0131na hedef olduk. Bunun yan\u0131 s\u0131ra \u015fu anki Ermenistan y\u00f6netimi bar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcrecini baltalamak i\u00e7in her \u015feyi yapt\u0131. Ermenistan ba\u015fbakan\u0131 tam bir y\u0131l \u00f6nce, Azerbaycan’\u0131n i\u015fgal alt\u0131ndaki b\u00f6lgesindeki bir mitingde Karaba\u011f’\u0131n Ermeni topra\u011f\u0131 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Bu a\u00e7\u0131klama, \u015fu an masada g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclen ve \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm prensiplerinden biri ‘i\u015fgal topraklar\u0131n\u0131n Azerbaycan’a iade edilmesi’ olan bar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcrecini baltalam\u0131\u015f oldu. Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 tek bir santimetrekarenin Azerbaycan’a iade edilmeyece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi\u011finde, Karaba\u011f’\u0131n Ermeni topra\u011f\u0131 oldu\u011funu ifade etti\u011finde ve i\u015fgal b\u00f6lgelerine yasa d\u0131\u015f\u0131 yerle\u015fimler in\u015fa etti\u011finde Cenevre S\u00f6zle\u015fmesini ac\u0131mas\u0131zca ihlal etmi\u015f, bar\u0131\u015f s\u00fcrecini de y\u0131km\u0131\u015f oluyor. Bundan bizi sorumlu tutmak i\u00e7in de temmuz, a\u011fustos ve eyl\u00fcl aylar\u0131nda bize 3 kez sald\u0131rd\u0131lar. Sahada onlar\u0131 yenilgiye u\u011fratt\u0131k, \u015fimdi Azerbaycan’\u0131 durdurmak i\u00e7in herkese yalvar\u0131yorlar. Biz de son bulsun istiyoruz ama biz i\u015fgalin son bulmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyoruz. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla burada esas mesaj Ermenistan’a verilmeli. Biz Ermenistan’da de\u011fil kendi topraklar\u0131m\u0131zday\u0131z, bizim 27 y\u0131ll\u0131k topra\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda.<\/p>\n

euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Ermenistan’\u0131n s\u00f6yledi\u011fi di\u011fer bir \u015fey de T\u00fcrkiye’nin b\u00f6lgeye g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc \u015fekilde n\u00fcfuz etti\u011fi, askeri destek verdi\u011fi y\u00f6n\u00fcnde. T\u00fcrkiye’nin bu ihtilafta sizin \u00fclkenize ve att\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z ad\u0131mlara ne kadar tesir etti\u011fini s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n

Aliyev:<\/strong>\u00a0Bu tamamen yanl\u0131\u015f bir bilgi. T\u00fcrkiye bizim g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir orta\u011f\u0131m\u0131z, m\u00fcttefikimiz, karde\u015f \u00fclkemiz. Tabi ki T\u00fcrk h\u00fck\u00fcmetinden, cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131ndan, T\u00fcrk halk\u0131ndan gelen destek a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131na minnettar\u0131z. Fakat T\u00fcrkiye bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmaya hi\u00e7bir y\u00f6n\u00fcyle m\u00fcdahil de\u011fildir. Ermenistan, bas\u0131nda yalan haber \u00e7\u0131kart\u0131p Azerbaycan ordusunun kapasitesini k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck g\u00f6stermek istiyor. Biz tek ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131za sava\u015f\u0131yoruz. Evet T\u00fcrkiye’den silah sat\u0131n al\u0131yoruz ancak bizim tek silah sat\u0131n ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ana tedarik\u00e7imiz T\u00fcrkiye de\u011fil ve bunu muhtemelen herkes biliyor. Bizim T\u00fcrkiye’den, aralar\u0131nda S\u0130HA’lar\u0131n da oldu\u011fu modern silah sat\u0131n almam\u0131z kimse i\u00e7in bir sorun te\u015fkil etmemeli zira biz \u00fccretini \u00f6derken Ermenistan silahlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00fccretsiz temin ediyor.<\/p>\n

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Bizim T\u00fcrkiye’den, aralar\u0131nda S\u0130HA’lar\u0131n da oldu\u011fu modern silah sat\u0131n almam\u0131z kimse i\u00e7in bir sorun te\u015fkil etmemeli zira biz \u00fccretini \u00f6derken Ermenistan silahlar\u0131n\u0131 \u00fccretsiz temin ediyor.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u0130lham Aliyev<\/div>\n
Azerbaycan Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

“Darbeyle gelen Pa\u015finyan m\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecini y\u0131kt\u0131”<\/h2>\n

euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Biz s\u00fcrekli silahlardan ve \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalardan bahsediyoruz. Sizce diplomasi halen bir se\u00e7enek mi? Bu soruna farkl\u0131 bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulmak i\u00e7in Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 ile oturup m\u00fczakere eder misiniz?<\/p>\n

Aliyev:<\/strong> \u015eunu s\u00f6yleyeyim, cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 olarak g\u00f6revim boyunca iki Ermeni cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 ve mevcut ba\u015fbakan ile belki onlarca kez g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmem oldu. Bu m\u00fczakerelerde \u00f6nemli ilerlemeler kaydettik. Bug\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n son bulmas\u0131 i\u00e7in prensipleri detayland\u0131rd\u0131k. Ve yap\u0131c\u0131yd\u0131k. M\u00fczakereler 1992’den beri devam ediyor. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliyor musunuz neredeyse 30 y\u0131la yak\u0131n bir s\u00fcredir hep umutla, arabulucular\u0131n “biraz daha bekleyin Ermenistan da daha yap\u0131c\u0131 olacak” demelerini dinleyerek bekledik. \u0130ki y\u0131l \u00f6nceki darbe sonucunda bu ba\u015fbakan g\u00f6reve gelince m\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecini tamamen y\u0131kt\u0131. Kendisiyle \u00e7ok kez bir araya geldim ancak bu toplant\u0131lar tamamen anlams\u0131zd\u0131. Bana topraklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 geri vermeyeceklerini s\u00f6yledi. Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’\u0131n, nas\u0131l derler, Ermenistan’a ba\u011fl\u0131 olmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini ifade etti. Bu hem benim hem de arabulucu devletler i\u00e7in kabul edilemez bir talep. Ermenistan h\u00fck\u00fcmeti tutumunu de\u011fi\u015ftirmeli, a\u015f\u0131r\u0131c\u0131l\u0131ktan uzak durmal\u0131 ve Karaba\u011f’\u0131n Ermenistan oldu\u011fu s\u00f6ylemlerine son vermeli zira bu do\u011fru de\u011fil, ayn\u0131 zamanda da m\u00fczakere s\u00fcrecini de y\u0131k\u0131ma u\u011fratan bir s\u00f6ylem. Biz m\u00fczakereye d\u00f6n\u00fcyoruz. Yar\u0131n d\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakan\u0131m\u0131z Minsk Grubu temsilcileri ile bir araya gelmek i\u00e7in Cenevre’de olacak. Bildi\u011fim kadar\u0131yla Ermenistan d\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakan\u0131n\u0131n da bu ay ba\u015f\u0131nda orada olmas\u0131 gerekiyordu ama umursamad\u0131. Orada de\u011fildi, bizim bakan\u0131m\u0131zsa orada olacak. Bu, kimin m\u00fczakere istedi\u011fini kiminse sadece Azerbaycan’a su\u00e7lamalar y\u00f6neltti\u011finin de bir g\u00f6stergesi<\/p>\n

Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 Nikol Pa\u015finyan: “Azerbaycan T\u00fcrkiye’nin talimatlar\u0131n\u0131 izliyor”<\/h2>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0\u015eimdi Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 Nikol Pa\u015finyan bizimle. Birle\u015fmi\u015f Milletler, Minsk grubu, AB, hepsi acil ate\u015fkes \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131 yapt\u0131, ancak sava\u015f devam ediyor. Burada neyi ba\u015farmay\u0131 hedefledi\u011finizi bize a\u00e7\u0131klar m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n

Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131 Nikol Pa\u015finyan:<\/strong>\u00a0G\u00f6r\u00fcyorsunuz en \u00f6nemli \u015fey, biz uluslararas\u0131 toplumun ve AG\u0130T Minsk Grubu e\u015fba\u015fkanlar\u0131n\u0131n neler oldu\u011funu kabul etmesini memnuniyetle kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131k. AG\u0130T Minsk Grubu e\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131, \u00fclkelerin, cumhurba\u015fkanlar\u0131n\u0131n ve d\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakanlar\u0131n\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131 memnuniyetle kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131k. T\u00fcrkiye, Azerbaycan’\u0131n d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131klar\u0131 sonland\u0131rmamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. Ve Azerbaycan esasen T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan kendisine verilen talimatlar i\u00e7inde kald\u0131. Ve bug\u00fcn Avrupa Komisyonunun D\u0131\u015f \u0130li\u015fkilerden Sorumlu \u00fcyesinin a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131 bu durumu do\u011fruluyor. T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan toplan\u0131p \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma b\u00f6lgesine nakledilen, Azerbaycan taraf\u0131nda sava\u015fan ter\u00f6rist gruplar oldu\u011fu unutulmamal\u0131. Sizinle konu\u015ftu\u011fum \u015fu anda Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’daki Ermenilerin varolu\u015fsal bir tehdit alt\u0131nda olduklar\u0131 ger\u00e7e\u011fi var. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ba\u015fkent Stepanakert dahil t\u00fcm kasaba ve k\u00f6yler roket ve f\u00fczelerle s\u00fcrekli bombalan\u0131yor. Bence bu durumda uluslararas\u0131 toplum \u015fimdi kararl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde hareket etmeli ve Karaba\u011f’\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mal\u0131.<\/p>\n

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Azerbaycan’a g\u00f6re tek \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm, Ermenilerden tamamen ar\u0131nd\u0131r\u0131larak, etnik temizlik yap\u0131larak Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f\u2019\u0131n tamamen Azerbaycan kontrol\u00fcne girmesidir. Bu bir soyk\u0131r\u0131m tehdididir.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Nikol Pa\u015finyan<\/div>\n
Ermensitan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Azerbaycan savunma bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131, sizin baz\u0131 kasabalar\u0131 bombalad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. Her iki taraftan da baz\u0131 sivil kay\u0131plar\u0131n\u0131n oldu\u011funu a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131\u011fa kavu\u015fturmal\u0131y\u0131z, anlamak istedi\u011fim, siz bar\u0131\u015f m\u0131 ar\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n

Pa\u015finyan:<\/strong>\u00a0Kesinlikle. Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f ordusu baz\u0131 noktalar\u0131 vurdu\u011funu duyurdu. Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f\u2019\u0131n Savunma bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 bu operasyonlar\u0131n yap\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini; \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc ba\u015fka hi\u00e7bir \u015feyin m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 net bir \u015fekilde a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. Azerbaycan’\u0131n Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’\u0131n kasaba ve k\u00f6ylerine, sivillere y\u00f6nelik roket sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 ve f\u00fcze sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 durdurman\u0131n tek yolu buydu.<\/p>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a027 Eyl\u00fcl’de ba\u015flayan \u015fiddetten kimin sorumlu oldu\u011fu konusunda iki taraftan da bir fikir birli\u011fi yok, ge\u00e7en y\u0131l d\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakan\u0131n\u0131z bir a\u00e7\u0131klama yapt\u0131, sizin \u201cn\u00fcfusu bar\u0131\u015fa haz\u0131rlayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131\u201d s\u00f6yledi. \u015eu anda g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz bu de\u011fil. Harekete ge\u00e7mek i\u00e7in ne \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde cesaretlendirilmi\u015f ya da en az\u0131ndan desteklenmi\u015f hissetti\u011finizi anlamak istiyorum. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc belki de Rusya taraf\u0131ndan desteklendi\u011finizi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsunuz. Bu, kararlar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 ve eylemlerinizi ne \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde y\u00f6nlendiriyor?<\/p>\n

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Bug\u00fcn uluslararas\u0131 ter\u00f6ristler bu soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n uygulanmas\u0131nda yer al\u0131yor. T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan topland\u0131 ve b\u00f6lgeye getirildiler. Azerbaycan taraf\u0131nda sava\u015f\u0131yorlar<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Nikol Pa\u015finyan<\/div>\n
Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

\u201cT\u00fcrkiye uluslararas\u0131 ter\u00f6ristleri b\u00f6lgeye nakletti\u201d<\/h2>\n

Pa\u015finyan<\/strong>: Ba\u015fbakan se\u00e7ildi\u011fim g\u00fcnden beri her zaman oldu\u011fu gibi bar\u0131\u015f, birincil ve nihai hedefimiz oldu. Ermenistan halk\u0131, Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f halk\u0131 i\u00e7in, Azerbaycan halk\u0131 i\u00e7in kabul edilebilir bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulma yolunda \u00e7abalamam\u0131z gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledim. Ve herhangi bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn kar\u015f\u0131 taraf\u0131n insanlar\u0131 i\u00e7in de kabul edilebilir olmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini resmen s\u00f6yleyen, m\u00fczakerelere kat\u0131lan ilk lider benim. B\u00fct\u00fcn sorun Azerbaycan’\u0131n bu yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 resmen kabul etmemesidir. Onlara g\u00f6re tek \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm, Ermenilerden tamamen ar\u0131nd\u0131r\u0131larak, etnik temizlik yap\u0131larak Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f\u2019\u0131n tamamen Azerbaycan kontrol\u00fcne girmesidir. Bu bir soyk\u0131r\u0131m tehdididir. Bug\u00fcn uluslararas\u0131 ter\u00f6ristler bu soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131n uygulanmas\u0131nda yer al\u0131yor. T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan topland\u0131 ve b\u00f6lgeye getirildiler. Azerbaycan taraf\u0131nda sava\u015f\u0131yorlar. Ve bu ger\u00e7ek, zaten b\u00f6lgedeki \u00fclkeler taraf\u0131ndan ve bir dizi Avrupa \u00fclkesi taraf\u0131ndan esasen kabul edildi. Bu nedenle, insani felaketi durdurmak istiyorsak, bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fman\u0131n daha da geni\u015flemesini durdurmak istiyorsak, uluslararas\u0131 toplumun kararl\u0131l\u0131k g\u00f6stermesi ve Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n tan\u0131nmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini vurgulamak istiyorum.<\/p>\n

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Azerbaycan’\u0131n sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 durdurmas\u0131 gerekiyor. B\u00f6lgede bar\u0131\u015f olmal\u0131. Bize g\u00f6re bunun i\u00e7in en iyi ara\u00e7, uluslararas\u0131 toplumun Karaba\u011f’\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131d\u0131r.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Nikol Pa\u015finyan<\/div>\n
Ermenistan Ba\u015fbakan\u0131<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

“Uluslararas\u0131 toplum Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mal\u0131”<\/h2>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Uluslararas\u0131 toplum da sizin eylemlerinizi takip ediyor. \u015eunu vurgulamal\u0131y\u0131z ki her iki tarafta da sivil kay\u0131plar var. Azerbaycan’da sizin y\u00f6netti\u011finiz eylemler sonucunda insanlar \u00f6ld\u00fc. Bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmada, bu \u015fiddet olaylar\u0131na yakalanan insanlar\u0131n ac\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 azaltmak i\u00e7in ne t\u00fcr \u00f6nlemler al\u0131yorsunuz?<\/p>\n

Pa\u015finyan:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00d6nceki sorunuza geri d\u00f6nersek, kay\u0131tlar\u0131 netle\u015ftirmek \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli. Bu sald\u0131r\u0131y\u0131 kimin ba\u015flatt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sorun. Ve bence uluslararas\u0131 medyada ve uluslararas\u0131 toplumda, Ermenistan ve Karaba\u011f’\u0131n bu sava\u015f\u0131 ba\u015flatamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilmek i\u00e7in yeterli bilgi var, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc burada ba\u015farmam\u0131z gereken askeri g\u00f6revimiz yok. Bizim g\u00f6revimiz siyasi. Azerbaycan, son 15 y\u0131lda ve bu sava\u015ftan \u00f6nceki son 15 g\u00fcnde, bitirmeme izin verin. Ve sava\u015ftan \u00f6nceki 15 g\u00fcn i\u00e7inde, sorunuzu yan\u0131tl\u0131yorum, bana bir dakika verirseniz l\u00fctfen. Sava\u015ftan \u00f6nceki 15 y\u0131lda, sava\u015ftan \u00f6nceki 15 ay, 15 hafta, 15 g\u00fcn ve 15 saat i\u00e7inde Azerbaycan, bu sorunu askeri yollarla \u00e7\u00f6zece\u011fi tehdidinde bulundu. Bu bir s\u0131r de\u011fil. Azerbaycan ve T\u00fcrkiye’nin yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a inceleyelim. Azerbaycan’a, sava\u015f hatt\u0131na neden ter\u00f6ristlerin getirildi\u011fini a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a inceleyelim. Ba\u015fka bir \u00fclkeden ter\u00f6ristleri toplay\u0131p, onlar\u0131 birinin \u00fclkesine getirmenin ba\u015fka ne amac\u0131 olabilir? E\u011fer o \u00fclke askeri bir sald\u0131r\u0131 planlam\u0131yorsa, Azerbaycan neden ter\u00f6ristlerin kendi topraklar\u0131na nakledilmesini kabul etsin? Ama bug\u00fcn en \u00f6nemli \u015feyin \u015fiddeti durdurmak oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyoruz. Bunun i\u00e7in Azerbaycan’\u0131n sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 durdurmas\u0131 gerekiyor. Ve tabi ki b\u00f6lgede bar\u0131\u015f. Bize g\u00f6re bunun i\u00e7in en iyi ara\u00e7, uluslararas\u0131 toplumun Karaba\u011f’\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Affedersiniz b\u00f6l\u00fcyorum ama sald\u0131r\u0131y\u0131 durdurmaya haz\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n

Pa\u015finyan:<\/strong> Evet tabi ki. Ama bu, bizim bekleyip, onlar\u0131n gelip halk\u0131m\u0131za soyk\u0131r\u0131m yapmalar\u0131na izin verece\u011fimiz anlam\u0131na gelmiyor. Biz kimseye sald\u0131rmad\u0131k. Bizim eylemlerimiz ve Karaba\u011f’\u0131n eylemleri sadece me\u015fru m\u00fcdafaa i\u00e7indir. Kimseyi \u00f6ld\u00fcrme amac\u0131m\u0131z yok. Tek amac\u0131m\u0131z Ermeni halk\u0131n\u0131 ba\u015fka bir soyk\u0131r\u0131mdan korumakt\u0131r. Amac\u0131m\u0131z kendimizi savunmak.<\/p>\n

“Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f’da me\u015fru m\u00fcdafaa yap\u0131yoruz”<\/h2>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Sizin i\u00e7in kabul edilebilir bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm ne olabilir? Bu \u00e7at\u0131\u015fmada \u015fiddet i\u00e7ermeyen bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulman\u0131n farkl\u0131 yolu var m\u0131?<\/p>\n

Pa\u015finyan:<\/strong>\u00a0Bizim g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fcz Karaba\u011f sorununun \u015fiddetle \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclemeyece\u011fidir. Ge\u00e7mi\u015fte \u00f6yleydi, \u015fimdi de \u00f6yle. \u015eiddetle herhangi bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcme ula\u015f\u0131lamaz. Ancak Azerbaycan’\u0131n politikas\u0131 Karaba\u011f sorununun \u015fiddetle \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmesi i\u00e7in bir plan. Ermenistan her zaman uzla\u015fmaya haz\u0131rd\u0131. Azerbaycan hi\u00e7bir \u015fekilde taviz istemeyen \u00fclke konumunda. Uzla\u015fma istemiyorlar. Tek \u00e7areleri, Karaba\u011f n\u00fcfusunun her zaman y\u00fczde 80’den fazlas\u0131n\u0131 olu\u015fturan Karaba\u011f Ermenilerinin yerlerinden edilmesi ve Karaba\u011f’\u0131 etnik temizlik yoluyla almalar\u0131 ve o b\u00f6lgenin Ermenilerden ve Ermeni olmayan yerle\u015fim alanlar\u0131ndan ar\u0131nd\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131d\u0131r. Bu insanlar binlerce y\u0131ll\u0131k vatanlar\u0131n\u0131 s\u0131rf Azerbaycan istedi\u011fi i\u00e7in terk edemezler, bu y\u00fczden kendilerini savunmak zorundalar ve bu me\u015fru m\u00fcdafaa hakk\u0131na sahiptirler. Burada Da\u011fl\u0131k Karaba\u011f i\u00e7in ba\u015fka ama\u00e7 yok, nefsi m\u00fcdafaa var.Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/p>\n

Euronews:<\/strong>\u00a0Minsks grubu, Birle\u015fmi\u015f Milletler, AB, hepsi sava\u015fa derhal son verilmesi \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131s\u0131nda bulundu; ancak \u00fclkeler geri ad\u0131m atmad\u0131. Her iki taraftaki kay\u0131plar artmaya devam ediyor. Geli\u015fmelerle ilgili daha fazla haber i\u00e7in Euronews\u2019te kal\u0131n.<\/em><\/p>\n

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