{"id":57764,"date":"2020-06-30T04:14:45","date_gmt":"2020-06-30T09:14:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=57764"},"modified":"2020-06-30T04:14:45","modified_gmt":"2020-06-30T09:14:45","slug":"protestan-din-gorevlileri-ve-aileleri-sinirdisi-baskisi-altinda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=57764","title":{"rendered":"Protestan din g\u00f6revlileri ve aileleri s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 bask\u0131s\u0131 alt\u0131nda"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-57765\" src=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri-360x240.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"240\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri-560x373.jpg 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri-260x173.jpg 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri-160x107.jpg 160w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/06\/Protestan-din-g\u00f6revlileri.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"post-meta\"><strong><span class=\"posted-by\"><span class=\"reviewer\"><a title=\"Ferda Balancar\" href=\"http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazar\/28\/ferda-balancar\" rel=\"author\">Ferda Balancar<\/a><\/span> \u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<div class=\"post-meta\"><em><span style=\"color: #333333; font-family: 'Cantata One', serif; letter-spacing: 0.05em;\">Son y\u0131llarda Protestan din g\u00f6revlilerinin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorunlar gittik\u00e7e art\u0131yor. Konu, ge\u00e7en hafta HDP Mardin Milletvekili Tuma \u00c7elik\u2019in TBMM\u2019ye verdi\u011fi soru \u00f6nergesiyle birlikte yeniden g\u00fcndeme geldi. \u00c7elik, \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 S\u00fcleyman Soylu\u2019nun cevaplamas\u0131 istemiyle verdi\u011fi soru \u00f6nergesinde, \u201cSon y\u0131llarda din g\u00f6revlilerine T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ikamet izni verilmiyor ya da mevcut izinler uzat\u0131lm\u0131yor. \u0130kamet izni iptallerine de N82 ve G82 kodlar\u0131 konulmu\u015ftur\u201d diyor. Konuyu Protestan Kiliseler Birli\u011fi Bas\u0131n S\u00f6zc\u00fcs\u00fc Soner Tufan ile konu\u015ftuk.<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n<div class=\"post-container cf\">\n<div class=\"post-content-right\">\n<div class=\"post-content description \">\n<p><strong>Protestan toplumunun t\u00fczel ki\u015filik sorunu ge\u00e7mi\u015ften bu yana s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. \u00d6te yandan son y\u0131llarda Protestan din g\u00f6revlilerinin s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 edilmesi gibi sorunlar artarak ya\u015fan\u0131yor. Bug\u00fcne kadar ne kadar Protestan din g\u00f6revlisi s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 edildi? Bu vakalar aras\u0131nda e\u015fi T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015f\u0131 olanlar oldu\u011fu da iddia ediliyor. Bu da asl\u0131nda bir insan hakk\u0131 ve anayasal hak olan ailenin b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcne ayk\u0131r\u0131 bir uygulama. Bu t\u00fcr olaylar ya\u015fan\u0131yor mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Protestanlar\u0131n t\u00fczel ki\u015filik sorunu \u00e7ok uzun s\u00fcredir var ve \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcne y\u00f6nelik bir \u0131\u015f\u0131k da g\u00f6r\u00fcnm\u00fcyor. Halen b\u00f6yle b\u00fcy\u00fck bir sorunla ya\u015farken son iki y\u0131l i\u00e7inde kiliselerde hizmet eden din g\u00f6revlilerinin s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 edilmesinde ciddi bir art\u0131\u015f var. Bize bildirilen rakamlara g\u00f6re ge\u00e7en y\u0131l 36 ki\u015fi s\u0131n\u0131r d\u0131\u015f\u0131 edildi. Bu vakalar\u0131n \u00e7o\u011funda aileden biri se\u00e7ildi\u011fi i\u00e7in, aile olarak \u00fclkeden ayr\u0131lmak zorunda kald\u0131lar. Bu \u015fekilde hesaplay\u0131nca say\u0131 \u00fc\u00e7, d\u00f6rt kat\u0131na \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor zira e\u015flerden biri bir \u015fekilde kilisede din g\u00f6revini y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcyorsa \u00f6b\u00fcr e\u015f de farkl\u0131 \u015fekillerde kilisede bir g\u00f6revi ifa ediyordu. Ayr\u0131ca \u00e7ocuklar a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan da \u00e7ok zor bir durum bu. Bu sene i\u00e7in bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda hen\u00fcz alt\u0131nc\u0131 ayda olmam\u0131za kar\u015f\u0131n 20 civar\u0131nda ki\u015fi e\u015fleri ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131yla birlikte \u00fclkeden ayr\u0131lmak zorunda kald\u0131.<br \/>\n2019 y\u0131l\u0131na kadar ger\u00e7ekten de bir \u015fekilde s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 olan aileler ayr\u0131l\u0131yordu. Mesela resmi i\u015flemlerin zaman\u0131nda yap\u0131lmamas\u0131, evrak eksikli\u011fi gibi nedenlerden \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc&#8230; Son iki y\u0131l\u0131n rakamlar\u0131 ise \u00e7ok artt\u0131. Ayr\u0131ca \u00f6nceki d\u00f6nemlerde sadece s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 ediliyordu; sorun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde geri d\u00f6nebilirlerdi. \u015eimdi milli g\u00fcvenli\u011fe tehdit kodu ile (N82, G82) g\u00f6nderildi\u011finden geri d\u00f6nmeleri m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. \u015eunu da ekleyelim ki bunlar bize bildirilen rakamlar. Ayr\u0131ca gitti\u011fini bilsek de rakam olarak bile kay\u0131tlara girmek istemeyenler var ki onlar\u0131 da eklersek \u00e7ok ciddi bir kitle ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar.<br \/>\nEvet, e\u015fi T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015f\u0131 olan aileler de g\u00f6nderiliyor. Benim bildi\u011fim bu durumda olan \u00fc\u00e7 aile var. Bunlar\u0131n ilki ge\u00e7en y\u0131l e\u015fi ile ABD\u2019ye gitmek zorunda kald\u0131; di\u011fer ikisi Ankara\u2019da ama onlar\u0131n durumu da ayn\u0131. \u015eunu da tekrar vurgulayay\u0131m ki bizi bilgilendirip verileri kullanmam\u0131za izin verenler hakk\u0131nda konu\u015fuyorum.<\/p>\n<p><strong>15 Temmuz 2016 askeri darbe giri\u015fimi sonras\u0131nda ABD\u2019li Protestan rahip Andrew Bronson\u2019la ilgili olarak ABD ve T\u00fcrkiye aras\u0131nda ciddi bir kriz ya\u015fanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Protestan din g\u00f6revlilerinin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorunlar\u0131n art\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bu olay\u0131n etkisi var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bu bir yorum olarak de\u011ferlendirilebilir, \u201czamanlamas\u0131 manidar\u201d denilebilir. Zaman olarak iki olay\u0131n birbirinin arkas\u0131ndan gelmesi bu sorular\u0131 ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yor. H\u00fck\u00fcmet, Andrew Brunson olay\u0131nda ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tekrar tecr\u00fcbe etmek istemiyor olabilir. Ki Andrew Brunson olay\u0131 herkesi farkl\u0131 \u015fekillerde ciddi bir \u015fekilde sarst\u0131.<\/p>\n<div id=\"photoholder1\" class=\"photoholder no-display appear\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"no-display appear\" src=\"http:\/\/admin.agos.com.tr\/Upload\/Agos\/Images\/sonertufan2.jpg\" alt=\"Soner Tufan\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"photoholder no-display appear\"><em><span class=\"title\">Soner Tufan<\/span><\/em><\/div>\n<p><strong>N82 ve G82 kodlar\u0131n\u0131n anlam\u0131 nedir? Neden Protestan din g\u00f6revlileri bu kodlar dahilinde s\u0131n\u0131r d\u0131\u015f\u0131 ediliyor?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bu sorunun yan\u0131t\u0131n\u0131 herkes merak ediyor. Geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f yolu olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in tercih edilmi\u015f olabilir, tek y\u00f6nl\u00fc bilet gibi. Konuyla ilgili temel iki kod vard\u0131r. N-kodu: Oturum izniniz ve vizeniz iptal edilmi\u015ftir. Ayn\u0131 vize ile T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye tekrar girmek isterseniz giri\u015finize izin verilmeyecektir. U\u00e7a\u011f\u0131n\u0131zla sizi geldi\u011finiz \u00fclkeye geri g\u00f6ndereceklerdir. Bu durumda, bulundu\u011funuz \u00fclkenin T\u00fcrkiye Konsoloslu\u011funa gidip \u00f6zel bir amac\u0131 olan (me\u015fruhatl\u0131) vize ba\u015fvurusunda bulunman\u0131z gerekir. Konsolosluk vize verirse, verilen vize s\u0131n\u0131rlamalar\u0131 i\u00e7inde T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye giri\u015f yapabilirsiniz. Yani N kodunda giri\u015f yasa\u011f\u0131 bulunmamaktad\u0131r. G-Kodu\u2019nda ise oturum izniniz ve vizeniz milli g\u00fcvenli\u011fe, toplum d\u00fczenine ve toplum sa\u011fl\u0131\u011f\u0131na tehdit olu\u015fturdu\u011funuz i\u00e7in iptal edilmi\u015ftir. Vizeniz olsa dahi T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye giri\u015finize be\u015f y\u0131l boyunca izin verilmeyecektir. Her iki kodu da kald\u0131rmak ancak \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019na itiraz ve reddi durumunda mahkeme yolu ile m\u00fcmk\u00fcnd\u00fcr. Mahkemede kazan\u0131rsan\u0131z kald\u0131r\u0131l\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Konuyla ilgili resmi yetkililerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015febildiniz mi? Resmi olarak olmasa da ne t\u00fcr a\u00e7\u0131klamalar yap\u0131yorlar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Asl\u0131nda resmi olarak davala\u015fmalar yoluyla gelen kimi yan\u0131tlar var. Ancak en \u00f6nemli \u015fey bu ki\u015filerin misyonerlik yapt\u0131klar\u0131 gerek\u00e7esiyle bu kodu alarak g\u00f6nderildikleri y\u00f6n\u00fcnde. Bir davada da kod alan ki\u015fiye bu kodlar\u0131n M\u0130T raporu nedeniyle verildi\u011fini g\u00f6steren bir belge var. Ancak bu hukuki i\u015flemler d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda devlet kanad\u0131ndan hi\u00e7 bir yan\u0131t gelmedi. Bu konuyla ilgili olarak bir\u00e7ok ki\u015fiden; Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131, \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131, G\u00f6\u00e7 \u0130daresi de dahil olmak \u00fczere, randevu talep edildi ancak bir sonu\u00e7 \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131. Resm\u00ee olmayan s\u00f6ylentilere g\u00f6re bir M\u0130T raporu olu\u015fturulmu\u015f ve liste \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. HDP Mardin Milletvekili Tuma \u00c7elik konuyla ilgili etrafl\u0131 bir soru \u00f6nergesi de verdi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Protestan din g\u00f6revlilerinin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorunlar\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc i\u00e7in ne t\u00fcr \u00f6nerileriniz var?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00d6ncelikle Protestanlar\u0131n t\u00fczel ki\u015filik sorunu \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmeli, elbette ger\u00e7ekten \u00fclkemizin g\u00fcvenli\u011fini tehdit eden ki\u015filer varsa bunlar olabildi\u011fi kadar hakl\u0131 gerek\u00e7elere dayand\u0131r\u0131larak ciddi anlamda yarg\u0131lan\u0131p g\u00f6nderilmeli; belirsizlik i\u00e7inde yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda \u00fclke uluslararas\u0131 arenada daha zor duruma d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor. Ger\u00e7ek delillerle ve \u015feffaf bir hukuki s\u00fcre\u00e7ten sonra g\u00f6nderilmeliler. \u015eimdiye dek Protestanlar\u0131n pek de yan\u0131nda olmayan bir sicili d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcnce ister istemez bunlar\u0131n siyasi ya da keyfi uygulamalar oldu\u011fu yorumlar\u0131 ortaya \u00e7\u0131kabiliyor. \u00dclkede ya\u015fayan M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmayan b\u00fct\u00fcn kitle kabul edilmeli ve bir normal vatanda\u015f\u0131n sahip oldu\u011fu t\u00fcm haklara sahip olmal\u0131. Ya\u015fam hakk\u0131na sahip olduklar\u0131 vurgulanmal\u0131, misyonerlik diye bir su\u00e7 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ifade edilmeli. \u00dclkede kiliselerde hizmet etmek \u00fczere din adam\u0131n\u0131n yeti\u015ftirilmesinin altyap\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n kurulmas\u0131na izin verilmeli. T\u00fcrk H\u0131ristiyanlar\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131n gidebilece\u011fi H\u0131ristiyan eti\u011fine uygun e\u011fitim verecek, tabii ki Milli E\u011fitim Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 m\u00fcfredat\u0131n\u0131 uygulayacak okullar\u0131n kurulmas\u0131na izin verilmeli. \u0130badethanelerin kurulmas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fc a\u00e7\u0131lmal\u0131. Kiliselerin kurdu\u011fu dernek yoluyla ka\u011f\u0131t \u00fczerinde sahip olduklar\u0131 haklar\u0131 kullanmalar\u0131na izin verilmeli ki din adam\u0131 istihdam etmek ve o izinle burada ya\u015famas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fc a\u00e7acak mevzuat zaten var, uygulamada eksikler var. Yani yapacak \u00e7ok \u015fey var ama temelde Protestan T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015flar\u0131n var oldu\u011fu kabul edilmeli, onlara haklar\u0131 teslim edilmeli ve onlarla ayn\u0131 fikirde olunmasa da onlara tahamm\u00fcl edilmesi \u00f6\u011frenilmeli. Bir arada bar\u0131\u015f i\u00e7inde ya\u015fanabilece\u011fine inanarak hareket edilmeli. Protestan vatanda\u015flar\u0131n bir T\u00fcrk M\u00fcsl\u00fcman\u2019\u0131n sahip oldu\u011fu haktan fazlas\u0131nda g\u00f6z\u00fc yok, bu da bilinmeli. Protestan vatanda\u015flar \u00f6c\u00fc gibi \u00f6tekile\u015ftirilmek yerine tan\u0131nmal\u0131, kendilerini tan\u0131tmalar\u0131na izin verilmeli. \u0130\u015fte o zaman pek \u00e7ok sorun, sorun olmaktan \u00e7\u0131kacakt\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazi\/24225\/protestan-din-gorevlileri-ve-aileleri-sinirdisi-baskisi-altinda<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ferda Balancar \u00a0 Son y\u0131llarda Protestan din g\u00f6revlilerinin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorunlar gittik\u00e7e art\u0131yor. Konu, ge\u00e7en hafta HDP Mardin Milletvekili Tuma \u00c7elik\u2019in TBMM\u2019ye verdi\u011fi soru \u00f6nergesiyle birlikte yeniden g\u00fcndeme geldi. \u00c7elik, \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 S\u00fcleyman Soylu\u2019nun cevaplamas\u0131 istemiyle verdi\u011fi soru \u00f6nergesinde, \u201cSon y\u0131llarda din g\u00f6revlilerine T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ikamet izni verilmiyor ya da mevcut izinler uzat\u0131lm\u0131yor. \u0130kamet izni iptallerine de [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":57765,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,71,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-57764","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-haberler","category-mulakatlar","category-turkiyede-azinliklar"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Protestan din g\u00f6revlileri ve aileleri s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 bask\u0131s\u0131 alt\u0131nda - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=57764\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Protestan din g\u00f6revlileri ve aileleri s\u0131n\u0131rd\u0131\u015f\u0131 bask\u0131s\u0131 alt\u0131nda - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Ferda Balancar \u00a0 Son y\u0131llarda Protestan din g\u00f6revlilerinin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 sorunlar gittik\u00e7e art\u0131yor. 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