{"id":57183,"date":"2020-04-27T04:13:21","date_gmt":"2020-04-27T09:13:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=57183"},"modified":"2020-04-27T04:13:21","modified_gmt":"2020-04-27T09:13:21","slug":"dersimin-ermenileri-ya-da-ermenilerin-dersimi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=57183","title":{"rendered":"Dersim\u2019in Ermenileri ya da Ermenilerin Dersim\u2019i"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-57184\" src=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri-360x203.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri-360x203.jpeg 360w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri-768x432.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri-560x315.jpeg 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri-260x146.jpeg 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri-160x90.jpeg 160w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2020\/04\/Dersim\u2019in-Ermenileri.jpeg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Y\u0131llarca susan, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131na, e\u015flerine bile sessiz \u00e7\u0131\u011fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 duyurmam\u0131\u015f \/ anlatamam\u0131\u015f \u201ckay\u0131p k\u0131zlar\u201d dertlerini bize anlat\u0131rken a\u011f\u0131r bir sorumluluk y\u00fcklemi\u015flerdi omuzlar\u0131m\u0131za\u2026<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kaz\u0131m G\u00fcndo\u011fan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Dersim\u2019in Kay\u0131p K\u0131zlar\u0131<\/em>\u00a0film ve kitap \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m\u0131zdan sonra Dersim\u2019in tarihsel ve toplumsal sorunlar\u0131ndan kopamad\u0131k. \u0130stesek de kopamaz duruma geldik. Zira hem Dersimliler, hem de Dersim hakikatini \u00f6\u011frenmek isteyen \u00e7ok de\u011fi\u015fik kesimler taraf\u0131ndan bir sorumluluk y\u00fcklendi omuzlar\u0131m\u0131za. Bu kadar ac\u0131y\u0131 ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f bir toplumun hakikatini \u00f6\u011frenince insan bu g\u00f6rev ve sorumluluktan ka\u00e7amaz hale geliyor\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Y\u0131llarca susan, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131na, e\u015flerine bile sessiz \u00e7\u0131\u011fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 duyurmam\u0131\u015f \/anlatamam\u0131\u015f \u201c<em>kay\u0131p k\u0131zlar<\/em>\u201d dertlerini bize anlat\u0131rken a\u011f\u0131r bir sorumluluk y\u00fcklemi\u015flerdi omuzlar\u0131m\u0131za\u2026 Onlara s\u00f6z vermi\u015ftik; bize verdikleri sorumlulu\u011fu onurla ta\u015f\u0131yacak, anlatacak ve seslerini d\u00fcnyaya duyuracakt\u0131k\u2026 Onurla ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131k elbet bu sorumlulu\u011fu\u2026 Anlatt\u0131k ve anlatmaya devam ediyoruz.<\/p>\n<p>Sadece \u00f6yk\u00fclerini anlatmad\u0131k; ac\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 olguya d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrerek d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn d\u00fcnyas\u0131nda da kavramsalla\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131k. \u201c<em>Dersim\u2019in Kay\u0131p K\u0131zlar\u0131<\/em>\u201d hem belgesel, hem de kitap olarak bu alanda ilk ve temel kaynak olarak hak etti\u011fi yeri ald\u0131\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalara ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, Dersim\u2019in Cumhuriyet Devleti\u2019nin \u201ckarakutusu\u201d oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemi\u015ftik. \u201c<em>Dersim\u2019in Kay\u0131p K\u0131zlar\u0131<\/em>\u201cn\u0131n konu\u015fmaya ba\u015flamas\u0131yla a\u00e7\u0131lan bu karakutuda nelerin oldu\u011fu, de\u011fi\u015fik alanlardaki ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar ve eserlerle daha da g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcr, anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131r hale geldi\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Cumhuriyet Devleti\u2019nin t\u00fcm halklar\u0131 T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirme ve \u0130slamla\u015ft\u0131rma politikas\u0131, Dersim\u2019de yakla\u015f\u0131k 20 y\u0131l boyunca (1926-1947) merkezi bir politikayla son derece planl\u0131 bi\u00e7imde uygulanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. San\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi 1937\u2019de ba\u015flay\u0131p 1938\u2019de biten bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 de\u011fildi Dersim meselesi.<\/p>\n<p>Belirtmek gerekir ki, Dersim sadece bir Cumhuriyet d\u00f6nemi sorunu de\u011fildi. Zira esas olarak Hilafet\u00e7i Osmanl\u0131\u2019dan \u201cdevral\u0131nan bir sorun\u201ddu\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Dersim gibi kadim bir halklar yurduna dair \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rken; oradaki b\u00fct\u00fcn etnik ve inan\u00e7 kimliklerine dair bir s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fcz olmal\u0131d\u0131r. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla ara\u015ft\u0131rman\u0131n bir a\u015famas\u0131nda \u201c<em>Dersim tarihsel olarak K\u0131rman\u00e7\/Zazalar\u0131n, K\u00fcrtlerin, Ermenilerin inan\u00e7 bak\u0131m\u0131ndan da esas olarak K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f\/Alevilerin ve Hristiyanlar\u0131n ortak yurdudur<\/em>\u201cdiyerek s\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc s\u00f6ylemi\u015f olduk\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla Dersim\u2019i \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rken orada ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f kadim halklardan biri olan ve iki tertele (1915, 1937\/38) ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f Ermenilere dair bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma yapmak, hem tablonun b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6rmek, hem de ahlaki sorumluluk a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan gereklilikten \u00f6te zorunluluktu bizim i\u00e7in\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u0130\u015fte bu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce ve duyguyla Dersimli Ermenilere dair toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z bilgileri 2010 y\u0131l\u0131nda somut bir projeye d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrd\u00fck.<\/p>\n<p>Bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma iki esere d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Biri\u00a0<strong>Nezahat G\u00fcndo\u011fan<\/strong>\u2019\u0131n y\u00f6netmenli\u011fini yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131\u00a0<em>Vank\u2019\u0131n \u00c7ocuklar\u0131<\/em>\u00a0belgesel filmi; di\u011feri ise yazar\u0131 oldu\u011fum \u201c<em>Ke\u015fi\u015f\u2019in Torunlar\u0131, Dersimli Ermeniler 1<\/em>\u201d kitab\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Bu kitapta; k\u0131smen 1895-96 k\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 ve 1915 Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019nda Dersim\u2019de ya\u015fananlar\u0131, katliam\u0131n yan\u0131 s\u0131ra; m\u00fclkiyetini,\u00a0dinini, dilini kaybeden ve ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 topraklardan s\u00fcrg\u00fcn edilen Ermeni halk\u0131n\u0131n giderek toplumsal ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yitiri\u015fini anlatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m.<\/p>\n<p>Kitab\u0131n esas\u0131 ise; 1937-38 Dersim Tertelesi\u2019nde (Tertele; Zaza\/K\u0131rman\u00e7 dilinde soyk\u0131r\u0131m anlam\u0131nda kullan\u0131l\u0131yor.) sa\u011f kalan Vank ve Z\u0131mekli Hristiyan Ermenilerin izini s\u00fcrerken toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131m \u00f6yk\u00fclerden olu\u015fmaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>Kitap; tan\u0131klar\u0131n dilinden ve belgelerle 1915 Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019ndan sonra Dersim\u2019de kurumsal varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrebilen tek ibadet yeri olan Halvori Surp Garabet Manast\u0131r\u0131\u2019n\u0131n (Vank\u2019\u0131n) 1937 y\u0131l\u0131nda Sabiha G\u00f6k\u00e7en taraf\u0131ndan bombalanarak y\u0131k\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131, \u201cKe\u015fi\u015f ailesi\u201dnin ve Hristiyan toplulu\u011funun Alevi\/K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015flarla birlikte \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclmesini ve geride kalan az say\u0131daki aile fertlerinin T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin de\u011fi\u015fik yerlerinde \u201czorunlu isk\u00e2n\u201da ve asimilasyona tabi tutulmalar\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p>K\u00f6klerinden kopar\u0131lan bu toplulu\u011fun geride kalan \u00fcyelerini Isparta, \u0130zmir, Dersim, Bolu, \u0130stanbul, Almanya ve Fransa\u2019da bulup g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler yaparak, tertele \u00f6ncesi ya\u015famlar\u0131n\u0131,\u00a0tertele s\u00fcrecini, s\u00fcrg\u00fcn ve zorunlu isk\u00e2n d\u00f6nemini, T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirme, \u0130slamla\u015ft\u0131rma, Alevile\u015f(tir)me s\u00fcre\u00e7lerine dair travmalar\u0131n\u0131,hat\u0131rlad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131\/ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131\/tan\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131, ya\u015fama tutunma bi\u00e7imlerini ve birbirlerini bulmalar\u0131n\u0131 kaydederek birer belgeye d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrd\u00fck.<\/p>\n<p>Tertele ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f her insan bir belgedir. \u201cKe\u015fi\u015f\u2019in Torunlar\u0131\u201d b\u00fct\u00fcn bu travmatik \u00f6yk\u00fcleri ku\u015faktan ku\u015fa\u011fa ta\u015f\u0131yacak onlarca belgeden olu\u015fmaktad\u0131r\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Kitaba konu olan \u00f6yk\u00fclerde; 1926 y\u0131l\u0131ndan itibaren y\u00fcr\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011fe konulan devletin \u201c\u015eark Islahat Plan\u0131\u201dn\u0131n Dersim\u2019de 1947, hatta 1950 y\u0131l\u0131na kadar merkezi\u00a0bir planla uyguland\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7ok net olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcrken, \u00f6te yandan bu politikalar\u0131n nas\u0131l uyguland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n da foto\u011fraf\u0131 \u00e7ekiliyor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ke\u015fi\u015f\u2019in Torunlar\u0131- Dersimli Ermeniler-1 \/ K\u00e2z\u0131m G\u00fcndo\u011fan\/ Ayr\u0131nt\u0131 Yay\u0131nlar\u0131\/ 336 sayfa.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Birinci Bas\u0131m, Ocak 2016<br \/>\n\u0130kinci Bas\u0131m, \u015eubat 2016<br \/>\n\u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc Bas\u0131m, \u015eubat 2016<br \/>\nD\u00f6rd\u00fcnc\u00fc Bas\u0131m, Ocak 2020<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kitaptan b\u00f6l\u00fcmler<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cDersim\u2019in kay\u0131p Ermeni k\u0131z\u0131 Asl\u0131han Kiremit\u00e7iyan\u201d 2011 y\u0131l\u0131nda Isparta\u2019n\u0131n \u015earkikaraa\u011fa\u00e7 \u0130l\u00e7esi\u2019nde Ke\u015fi\u015f ailesinden buldu\u011fumuz ilk ki\u015fiydi\u2026 Uzun ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar ve aramalar sonras\u0131 Ke\u015fi\u015f ailesinin di\u011fer pek \u00e7ok \u00fcyesine de ula\u015f\u0131p, \u00f6yk\u00fclerini kay\u0131t alt\u0131na alabildik.<\/p>\n<p>Kitapta yer alan \u00f6yk\u00fclerden k\u0131sa k\u0131sa\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Agop Kiremit\u00e7iyan ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131<\/strong>: Agop bir o\u011flu ve k\u0131z\u0131 Z\u0131verta (7\u20138 ) ile birlikte Bolu\u2019ya, di\u011fer k\u0131z\u0131 Asl\u0131han ise babas\u0131ndan kopar\u0131larak Konya\u2019ya s\u00fcrg\u00fcne g\u00f6nderilir. Agop ile o\u011flu bir s\u00fcre sonra Bolu- Mengen\u2019de ya\u015famlar\u0131n\u0131 yitirirler.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Z\u0131verta:<\/strong>\u00a0Z\u0131verta\u2019ya s\u00fcrg\u00fcnde \u201cElif\u201d ad\u0131 verilir. Bir s\u00fcre sonra kendisi gibi s\u00fcrg\u00fcn bir ailenin o\u011flu olan Mazgirtli bir Aleviyle evlendirilir. 1947\u2019de Dersim s\u00fcrg\u00fcnlerine geriye d\u00f6nebileceklerine dair af \u00e7\u0131k\u0131nca e\u015fiyle birlikte Dersim\u2019e d\u00f6ner. Uzun y\u0131llar Dersim\u2019de ya\u015fad\u0131ktan sonra ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131 yitiren Z\u0131verta\u2019y\u0131 o\u011flu Ali Kaya \u015f\u00f6yle anlatt\u0131:<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>Annem Ermeni olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen tamamen Alevi olmu\u015ftu. En koyu Alevi\u2019den daha Aleviydi. Teyzem (Asl\u0131han) ise S\u00fcnni olmu\u015ftu. Teyzem namaz\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131lan, orucunu tutan S\u00fcnni M\u00fcsl\u00fcman; annem X\u0131z\u0131r, On \u0130ki \u0130mam Orucu\u2019nu tutan, ziyaretlere giden bir Alevi\u2026 Bilmem ki ne demeli bu duruma?<\/em>\u201c<\/p>\n<p><strong>Asl\u0131han:\u00a0<\/strong>Agop\u2019un di\u011fer k\u0131z\u0131 Asl\u0131han, ad\u0131 Konya\u2019da Fatma olarak de\u011fi\u015ftirildi\u011finde 5-6 ya\u015f\u0131nda; kelime-i \u015fahadet getirtilip, M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131larak evlendirildi\u011finde ise hen\u00fcz 13 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir \u00e7ocuktu\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Asl\u0131han Kiremit\u00e7iyan:<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>K\u00f6yde b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ceviz, etraf\u0131nda yine ceviz a\u011fa\u00e7lar\u0131 vard\u0131. Bir tabur adam getirdiler. Arkas\u0131nda b\u00fct\u00fcn silahl\u0131 insanlar. Hepsini g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fcler orada s\u0131ralad\u0131lar. Tak\u0131r tak\u0131r vurdular ittiler, vurdular ittiler, vurdular ittiler. (\u2026) bir adam da\u011fdan geldi. Ekinle \u00fcst\u00fcm\u00fc \u00f6rtt\u00fc \u2018sus\u2019 diye. B\u00f6yle kurtuldum. Sonra k\u00f6ye nas\u0131l gitmi\u015fim akl\u0131m ermiyor. Halam al\u0131p g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcyor ma\u011faralara ka\u00e7\u0131yoruz. Ondan sonra ma\u011faralardan alm\u0131\u015flar bizi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye da\u011f\u0131tm\u0131\u015flar. Bunlar\u0131 hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cBey\u015fehir\u2019de beni \u00f6nce bir albaya verdiler. Onun tayini \u00e7\u0131k\u0131nca n\u00fcfus m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn yan\u0131na verildim. Beni besleme olarak yanlar\u0131na alan \u201cailem\u201d beni \u00e7ok d\u00f6verdi. Odunla yedi\u011fim dayak y\u00fcz\u00fcnden parmaklar\u0131m k\u0131r\u0131kt\u0131r. Hi\u00e7bir doktora g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fclmedim. N\u00fcfus m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn evinde g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm i\u015fkenceler y\u00fcz\u00fcnden evden ka\u00e7t\u0131m. Daha sonra ba\u015fka bir aile beni yan\u0131na ald\u0131. Orada da \u00e7ok i\u015fkenceye maruz kald\u0131m. Sonra 35 ya\u015f\u0131nda olan birisi ile beni evlendirdiler. Evlendirmeden \u00f6nce kelime-i \u015fahadet getirtip beni M\u00fcsl\u00fcman yapt\u0131lar. A\u00e7 susuz, i\u015fkence dolu bir ya\u015fant\u0131m oldu. Her \u015feyden \u00f6nce \u00e7ocuktum\u2026 Evsiz, sahipsiz, kimsesiz ve i\u015fsizdim. Sokaklarda kald\u0131m. \u00c7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131 bu \u015fartlarla b\u00fcy\u00fctt\u00fcm.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ermenili\u011fimi tam olmasa da biliyordum ama gizledim. (..) Babam devletine ba\u011fl\u0131 bir Ermeni vatanda\u015fm\u0131\u015f.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u011fsa:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00c7ocuklar\u0131n en b\u00fcy\u00fc\u011f\u00fc Mi\u015fan 12 ya\u015flar\u0131ndad\u0131r. V\u00fccudunda onlarca s\u00fcng\u00fc yaras\u0131yla \u00f6l\u00fclerin alt\u0131ndan kurtulur. Toplan\u0131p Konya\u2019n\u0131n Bey\u015fehir il\u00e7esine s\u00fcrg\u00fcn edilirler. Ermeni kimlikleri bilindi\u011fi i\u00e7in ilkin isimleri de\u011fi\u015ftirilir, T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirilir. I\u011fsa\u2019ya \u201cFatma\u201d, Mi\u015fan\u2019a \u201cAli\u015fan\u201d, Abkar\u2019aA.,M.\u2019a M. adlar\u0131 verilir. Sonra bu \u00e7ocuklar zorla s\u00fcnnet edilerek, M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131l\u0131r!<\/p>\n<p>Ali\u015fan Istanbul\u2019da, Abkar Bolu\u2019da, M. ise Paris\u2019te ya\u015famaktad\u0131r. Onlar\u0131n \u00f6yk\u00fcleri kendilerinden ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131n anlat\u0131mlar\u0131ndan aktar\u0131l\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Garebet Kiremit\u00e7iyan<\/strong>: Garo Leng (Topal Garo) ailesiyle birlikte \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcl\u00fcr. \u0130ki k\u0131z\u0131, bir ye\u011feni kurtulur. K\u00fchet, Sultan ve Varte Agop\u2019la birlikte Bolu\u2019ya s\u00fcrg\u00fcne g\u00f6nderilir. K\u00fchet \u201cEmine\u201d olur. Sultan\u2019\u0131n ismi problem olmaz. Varte hakk\u0131nda ise \u00e7ok az \u015fey biliniyor\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>K\u00fchet:<\/strong>\u00a0K\u0131z\u0131 Cevahir ve o\u011flu Ahmet ile torunu Ahmet\u2019in anlat\u0131mlar\u0131ndan K\u00fchet\u2019in hayat hik\u00e2yesi\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cevahir Ak:<\/strong>\u00a0\u201c<em>Benim annem Ermenidir. Vank Ke\u015fi\u015fi\u2019nin torunudur. Anneme Emine diyorlard\u0131. Ama sonra \u00f6\u011frendik ger\u00e7ek ad\u0131 Ermenice K\u00fchet\u2019mi\u015f. K\u00f6yde \u00e7ocuklar bize, \u201c\u00c7ena Hermeni\u201d (Ermeni k\u0131z\u0131) derlerdi. \u00dcz\u00fcl\u00fcr a\u011flard\u0131m.Hakaret olarak s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlard\u0131. Bilmiyorduk annemizin Ermenili\u011finden s\u00f6ylendi\u011fini. Sonra \u00f6\u011frendik. Annem hi\u00e7 g\u00fclmez, hep a\u011flard\u0131\u2026 \u015eimdi annemle gurur duyuyorum\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sultan:<\/strong>\u00a0Sultan\u2019\u0131n Ermenice bir ad\u0131 var m\u0131yd\u0131 bilemiyoruz. O, \u201c<em>Ben hep Sultan\u2019d\u0131m\u201d\u00a0<\/em>diyor. \u2018Alevi Piri\u2019yle (Dede) evleniyor. 1947 y\u0131l\u0131nda Dersim\u2019e d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde Alevile\u015fiyor. 1994 y\u0131l\u0131nda tekrar ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 s\u00fcrg\u00fcn nedeniyle Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019da iki k\u0131z\u0131yla birlikte ya\u015f\u0131yor, 85 ya\u015f\u0131nda\u2026<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0\u201cBiz k\u00f6yde, arpa bi\u00e7mi\u015f, harman yap\u0131yorduk. Asker b\u00fct\u00fcn erkekleri toplam\u0131\u015f \u00e7ay\u0131n\u00a0<\/em>(Munzur\u00e7ay\u0131)<em>\u00a0k\u0131y\u0131s\u0131na g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fc. Karde\u015fim de i\u00e7lerinde\u2026 Hepsini katlettiler. Cesetlerin hepsini suya att\u0131lar (..). Bakt\u0131k kad\u0131nlar\u0131n hepsini orada katletmi\u015fler. O kadar \u00e7ok kad\u0131n cesedi vard\u0131 ki\u2026 O cesetlerin aras\u0131nda \u00e7ocuklar vard\u0131. Art\u0131k erkek mi k\u0131z \u00e7ocu\u011fu mu bilmiyorum, cesetlerin aras\u0131nda a\u011fl\u0131yorlar. Aa,a derken bizi de tarad\u0131lar\u2026 Ben \u00f6yle a\u015fa\u011f\u0131 do\u011fru ka\u00e7t\u0131m gittim. Benim yan\u0131mda bir k\u0131z kurtuldu\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>1938\u2019de ben on ya\u015f\u0131ndayd\u0131m. Vanke Karabas derlerdi bizim k\u00f6ye. Kilisesi vard\u0131. G\u00fczel evlerimiz vard\u0131. O kilisenin \u00e7ok de\u011ferli mallar\u0131 vard\u0131\u2026 Day\u0131mlar, kilisenin sahipleriydi. Evleri kilisedeydi. Bizim evler de biraz \u00f6te tarafta iki katl\u0131yd\u0131.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>K\u0131rman\u00e7lar kiliseye gelmiyorlard\u0131. Neden gelsinler? Onlar Aleviydi, biz Ermeni. Biz kurbanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 kesip g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp K\u0131rman\u00e7lara veriyorduk. Onlarda bize getiriyordu. K\u0131rman\u00e7lar ile Ermeniler birbirleriyle katiyen evlenmezlerdi.(\u2026) Bizim ne adetlerimiz, t\u00f6relerimiz, ne inanc\u0131m\u0131z; arkada hi\u00e7 bir \u015fey kalmam\u0131\u015f. Devlet bizimkileri alt \u00fcst etmi\u015f. K\u00e2fir, Mervan, Yezit! Sen s\u00f6yle, Biz ne yapt\u0131k ki? Gen\u00e7lerimizi, \u00e7oluk \u00e7ocu\u011fumuzu katledip suya att\u0131lar!..<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>On iki day\u0131m vard\u0131\u2026 Kilisenin sahibini, babam\u0131, karde\u015fimi, halam\u0131, onun e\u015fini ve o\u011fullar\u0131n\u0131, di\u011fer kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n tamam\u0131n\u0131, hi\u00e7 sorma\u2026 \u201c<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Varte:<\/strong>\u00a0Varte, katliamdan kurtulup s\u00fcrg\u00fcne g\u00f6nderilmeyen tek ki\u015fidir. E\u015fini ve \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131 katliamda kaybeder, ma\u011faralarda, ormanda saklan\u0131r. S\u00fcrg\u00fcne g\u00f6nderilmeyen Tilek K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2019ndeki Alevi\/K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f dostlar\u0131na s\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131r. Dersim\u2019de olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen 1947\u2019de af \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131ktan sonra ancak Vank\u2019a geri d\u00f6nebilir.<\/p>\n<p>Varte, manast\u0131r\u0131n y\u0131k\u0131k duvarlar\u0131n\u0131 korumaya adar ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131. K\u00f6yl\u00fcler ona ve y\u0131k\u0131k manast\u0131ra sayg\u0131 g\u00f6sterir, yard\u0131m ederler. Zaten K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015flar da manast\u0131r\u0131 kutsal bir mek\u00e2n (Oca\u011fa \u0130mamsen -Hazreti H\u00fcseyin\u2019in Oca\u011f\u0131) olarak g\u00f6rmektedirler. Varte 1976 y\u0131l\u0131nda \u00f6l\u00fcr. 1938\u2019den sonra Vank\u2019\u0131n Ermeni mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131na g\u00f6m\u00fclebilen tek ki\u015fi Varte olur\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Toros Vartabetyan<\/strong>: Toros, katliam zaman\u0131nda 15\u201316 ya\u015flar\u0131ndad\u0131r. Denizli\u2019ye s\u00fcrg\u00fcne g\u00f6nderilir. Ke\u015fi\u015f\u2019in sa\u011f kalan tek erkek \u00e7ocu\u011fudur.<\/p>\n<p>Toros\u2019un Denizli ve Konya\u2019daki ad\u0131 Mehmet Balc\u0131\u2019d\u0131r. \u0130stanbul\u2019da ise, Toros Vartabetyan olur. Toros Vartabetyan\u2019\u0131n k\u0131z\u0131 Meryem, babas\u0131ndan kendisine kalan \u201cac\u0131 an\u0131lar\u0131\u201d \u015f\u00f6yle anlatt\u0131;<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>Babam \u2018Dersim vakas\u0131\u2019 derdi. \u2018Dersim olaylar\u0131nda karde\u015flerimi g\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn \u00f6n\u00fcnde \u00f6ld\u00fcrd\u00fcler. Ben ormanl\u0131k bir alandayd\u0131m, ormanl\u0131k alanda saklanarak kendimi korudum, iki asker g\u00f6rd\u00fc, \u00fcst\u00fcme ate\u015f a\u00e7t\u0131, ben ka\u00e7t\u0131m. Sa\u011f\u0131mdan solumdan kur\u015funlar sekiyordu ama kurtaran Allah kurtard\u0131\u2026 Kurtuldum\u2026\u2019diyordu. Anne, babas\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7ok anlatmazd\u0131 ama karde\u015flerini unutam\u0131yordu. Karde\u015flerinin d\u00f6rd\u00fcn\u00fc kur\u015funa dizerek \u00f6ld\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015fler. \u00c7o\u011fu zaman anlat\u0131r, a\u011flard\u0131. Hatta vefat edece\u011fi zaman bile ba\u015f\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015fla ezdikleri karde\u015finin ismini say\u0131klayarak\u2026\u00a0<\/em>(a\u011fl\u0131yor)<em>. Nefesini verirken aya\u011fa kalkt\u0131, \u2018Baba ne oldu?\u2019 dedim. Dedi ki, \u2018Harut\u2019u g\u00f6rd\u00fcm, kar\u015f\u0131da duruyor.\u2019 \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ondan \u00e7ok etkilenmi\u015fti\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Konya\u2019dan \u0130stanbul\u2019a gelene kadar babam\u0131n Ermeni oldu\u011funu bilmiyorduk. \u0130stanbul\u2019a geldikten sonra babam s\u00f6yledi. \u0130stanbul\u2019da ad\u0131 Toros olduktan sonra ya\u015fam\u0131nda \u00e7ok \u015fey de\u011fi\u015fti. Mezar ta\u015f\u0131na Toros yazd\u0131rd\u0131\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Babam Konya\u2019da oru\u00e7 tutard\u0131 ama \u0130stanbul\u2019a geldikten sonra kendi \u015feyini\u00a0<\/em>(orucunu)<em>\u00a0tutmaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Orada, 12 \u0130mamlarda da, Ramazanda da oru\u00e7 tutuyordu, ama \u2018Allah kalbimi biliyor, tuttu\u011fum oru\u00e7, etti\u011fim dua istedi\u011fim y\u00f6nde gidiyor\u2019 derdi. \u201cCamide namaz\u0131n\u0131 k\u0131ld\u0131ktan sonra evde ayr\u0131ca dua ederdi, ondan sonra da ha\u00e7\u2019\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131rd\u0131. \u00d6yle dua etti\u011fini bilirim. Nenemi de\u00a0<\/em>(I\u011fsa nene )<em>\u00a0bilirim. Oda \u00f6yle dua ederdi. Elinde tespih, tespihin ucuna da ha\u00e7 takm\u0131\u015ft\u0131, \u00f6yle dua ederdi.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Meryem:<\/strong>\u00a0Meryem\u2019in hik\u00e2yesi de ikinci ku\u015fak Dersim Ermenileri\u2019nin ortak hik\u00e2yesidir;<\/p>\n<p>\u201c<em>17 ya\u015f\u0131mdayken \u0130stanbul\u2019a geldik ve Ermeni oldu\u011fumu \u00f6\u011frendim. Tabii ister istemez kiliseye gidiyorsun, kiliseyi yad\u0131rg\u0131yorsun.( \u2026 ) Kiliseye ilk gitti\u011fimde, El hamd\u00fclillah\u0131 okuyorum, S\u00fcbhaneke\u2019yi okuyorum, Fatiha\u2019y\u0131 okuyorum\u2026 Mesela Haymer\u2019i sorsalar bilmiyordum. Ermenilerin i\u00e7ine giriyorsun, kendini onlara yak\u0131n hissedemiyorsun. Gene en yak\u0131n Alevilerle oluyordu. Onlarla \u00e7ok \u015feyi payla\u015f\u0131yorduk. Karde\u015flerim de \u00f6yle, ben de \u00f6yle\u2026 \u0130ki k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn hatta 2\u20133 k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn, inanc\u0131n aras\u0131nda ge\u00e7ti bizim \u00e7ocuklu\u011fumuz\u2026\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Kework Gregoryan:\u00a0<em>\u201c<\/em><\/strong><em>Hozat\u2019\u0131n Z\u0131mek k\u00f6y\u00fcnde do\u011fmu\u015fum. Soyk\u0131r\u0131m zaman\u0131nda 5-6 ya\u015flar\u0131ndayd\u0131m. Annem, k\u0131z karde\u015fim, a\u011fabeyimle birlikte y\u00fczlerce ki\u015fi topluca \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc. \u00d6l\u00fclerin alt\u0131nda sa\u011f kalm\u0131\u015f\u0131m\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Sonra s\u00fcrg\u00fcn. Ad\u0131m\u0131z\u0131, dinimizi de\u011fi\u015ftirdiler orada. Mehmet oldu ad\u0131m. Y\u0131llar sonra af \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p Z\u0131mek\u2019e geri geldi\u011fimizde her \u015feyimize el konulmu\u015ftu\u2026Kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z Kilise ta\u015flar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6k\u00fcp ev yapm\u0131\u015flard\u0131. Sahibi oldu\u011fumuz topraklar\u0131n marabas\u0131 olduk\u2026 Dersim\u2019i terk ettik!\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u0130ki Tertele (1915, 1937\/38) ya\u015fam\u0131\u015f, T\u00fcrkiye ve d\u00fcnyan\u0131n de\u011fi\u015fik yerlerinde ya\u015famak zorunda kalan Ke\u015fi\u015f ailesinin mensuplar\u0131 ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 asimilasyon ve travmalara ra\u011fmen bug\u00fcn birbirinden ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olarak \u201cbiz Dersimliyiz ve Ke\u015fi\u015f\u2019in torunlar\u0131y\u0131z\u201d demeleri, Dersimli Ermeni kimlikleri hakk\u0131nda ortak bir belle\u011fe (g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc olmasa da) sahip olduklar\u0131 s\u00f6ylenebilir\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/t24.com.tr\/haber\/dersim-in-ermenileri-ya-da-ermenilerin-dersim-i,875079\">https:\/\/t24.com.tr\/haber\/dersim-in-ermenileri-ya-da-ermenilerin-dersim-i,875079<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Y\u0131llarca susan, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131na, e\u015flerine bile sessiz \u00e7\u0131\u011fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 duyurmam\u0131\u015f \/ anlatamam\u0131\u015f \u201ckay\u0131p k\u0131zlar\u201d dertlerini bize anlat\u0131rken a\u011f\u0131r bir sorumluluk y\u00fcklemi\u015flerdi omuzlar\u0131m\u0131za\u2026 Kaz\u0131m G\u00fcndo\u011fan Dersim\u2019in Kay\u0131p K\u0131zlar\u0131\u00a0film ve kitap \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m\u0131zdan sonra Dersim\u2019in tarihsel ve toplumsal sorunlar\u0131ndan kopamad\u0131k. \u0130stesek de kopamaz duruma geldik. 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