{"id":55117,"date":"2019-10-04T02:52:50","date_gmt":"2019-10-04T07:52:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=55117"},"modified":"2019-10-04T02:52:50","modified_gmt":"2019-10-04T07:52:50","slug":"tekrar-istanbula-mahsus-episkoposlar-uzerine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=55117","title":{"rendered":"Tekrar \u201c\u0130stanbul\u2019a mahsus episkoposlar\u201d \u00fczerine\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-55118\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/\u0130stanbul-Ermeni-Patrikhanesi-360x229.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"229\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/10\/\u0130stanbul-Ermeni-Patrikhanesi-360x229.jpg 360w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/10\/\u0130stanbul-Ermeni-Patrikhanesi-560x356.jpg 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/10\/\u0130stanbul-Ermeni-Patrikhanesi-260x165.jpg 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/10\/\u0130stanbul-Ermeni-Patrikhanesi-160x102.jpg 160w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/10\/\u0130stanbul-Ermeni-Patrikhanesi.jpg 580w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>E\u011fer 2019 talimatnamesini \u201csadece \u0130stanbul episkoposlar\u0131\u201d olarak okuyanlara uyarsak, I. \u015e\u0131norhk ve II. Karekin \u0130stanbul\u2019a patrik olamayacakt\u0131, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc ikisi de Kud\u00fcs episkoposu idi. Onlar T\u00fcrkiye do\u011fumlu veya \u201cbabadan T\u00fcrk\u201d olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in \u0130stanbul\u2019a patrik olabildi. Al\u0131nan bir hakk\u0131 bug\u00fcn neden elimizin tersiyle itip, ki\u015fisel h\u0131rslardan dolay\u0131 \u0130stanbul Patriklik makam\u0131n\u0131n gelece\u011fini tehlikeye atal\u0131m?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazar\/224\/sevan-degirmenciyan\"><strong>Sevan De\u011firmenciyan<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 taraf\u0131ndan Ermeni Patrikli\u011fi\u2019ne tevdi edilen se\u00e7im talimatnamesinde bulunan ve patrik aday\u0131 olabilme \u015fartlar\u0131n\u0131 belirleyen 25. maddenin c bendinin \u00f6ng\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc \u201c\u0130stanbul Ermeni Patrikhanesine mahsus episkoposlar s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131na dahil olmak\u201d \u015fart\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fmalara ve farkl\u0131 yorumlara kap\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131. \u00c7o\u011fu ki\u015fi bu maddenin sadece \u201c\u0130stanbul Ermeni Patrikhanesi episkoposlar\u0131na\u201d patrik aday\u0131 olabilme imkan\u0131 sa\u011flad\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnde, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc on y\u0131llar sonra bu \u015fart\u0131 oraya koyanlar\u0131n niyeti maalesef iyi de\u011fil. Bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc savunanlar da kendi aralar\u0131nda ikiye ayr\u0131lm\u0131\u015f durumda. \u00c7o\u011fu ki\u015fi, hakl\u0131 olarak, bu \u015fartlarda yap\u0131lacak olan bir se\u00e7imin Ermeni toplumunun demokratik ve adil se\u00e7im hakk\u0131na yap\u0131lacak bir m\u00fcdahale olaca\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnde. Baz\u0131lar\u0131 da idareden gelen bu \u015fart\u0131 herhangi bir itirazda bulunmadan kabul edip, yang\u0131ndan mal ka\u00e7\u0131r\u0131rcas\u0131na bir an \u00f6nce se\u00e7imi organize etmek taraftar\u0131. Hak kaybetmenin vakit kaybetmekden daha vahim oldu\u011funun fark\u0131nda de\u011filler maalesef.<br \/>\nGe\u00e7en hafta yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131m gibi, bu \u015fart\u0131n herhangi bir k\u0131s\u0131tlama getirmedi\u011fini ve E\u00e7miadzin\u2019e ba\u011fl\u0131 episkoposlar\u0131n, di\u011fer \u015fartlar\u0131 doldurduklar\u0131 \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde, aday olabilece\u011fini savunanlar da var. Bu tezimi savunurken ge\u00e7en hafta 1863 Nizamnamesi\u2019nin tasla\u011f\u0131 olarak niteleyebilece\u011fimiz, \u00a0Ermeni toplumu taraf\u0131ndan 1860 tarihinde Bab-\u0131 Ali\u2019ye sunulan belgeyi \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f noktas\u0131 olarak alm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. 1860 n\u00fcshas\u0131nda patrik adayl\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in tek \u015fart vard\u0131: \u201cEpiskoposluk derecesi E\u00e7miadzin Katolikosu taraf\u0131ndan verilmi\u015f veya episkoposlu\u011fu E\u00e7miadzin taraf\u0131ndan kabul edilmi\u015f olmas\u0131\u201d.<br \/>\nFakat 1863\u2019de Bab-\u0131 Ali farkl\u0131 bir \u00fclkede bulunan E\u00e7miadzin\u2019i anmamak ad\u0131na patrik aday\u0131n\u0131n \u201c\u2026ez-kadim patrikli\u011fe mahsus olan piskoposlar\u0131n s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131ndan bulunmas\u0131\u2026\u201d olarak de\u011fi\u015ftirmi\u015fti.<br \/>\n2019\u2019da tekrar talimatnameye giren bu ko\u015ful, baz\u0131 ki\u015filerce nizamnameye yap\u0131lan bir at\u0131f olarak sevin\u00e7 naralar\u0131yla kar\u015f\u0131land\u0131 dersek abartm\u0131\u015f olmay\u0131z san\u0131r\u0131m. Bu ki\u015filere g\u00f6re idare 1863 Nizamnamesi\u2019ne vurgu yapmakta, unutulan eski bir metni tekrar canland\u0131r\u0131p ileride yapaca\u011f\u0131 l\u00fctuflar\u0131n ucundan az\u0131c\u0131k da olsa g\u00f6stermekte.<br \/>\nBu yaz\u0131mda 1860\u2019a de\u011fil, bizzat 1863 Nizamnamesi\u2019ne referans verip, \u201cpatrikli\u011fe mahsus episkopos\u201d kavram\u0131n\u0131 bir ba\u015fka a\u00e7\u0131dan anlatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015faca\u011f\u0131m. Her daim nizamnameye at\u0131f yapanlar belki b\u00f6ylece ikna olur.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nizamnamedeki Kud\u00fcs Patrikli\u011fi \u015eart\u0131<\/strong><br \/>\n1863 Nizamnames\u2019inde Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fine dair maddeler de var. \u0130stanbul\u2019dan farkl\u0131 olarak, Kud\u00fcs bir manast\u0131r ve her manast\u0131rda oldu\u011fu gibi orada bir \u201cmiapanutyun\u201d, kongregasyon, nizamnamede belirtilen ad\u0131 ile bir \u201cruhban cemaati\u201d var. Kud\u00fcs patri\u011fi se\u00e7ilecek olan \u015fah\u0131s \u201cotuz be\u015f ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131 tekmil etmi\u015f olup, pederinden beri tebaai Devlet-i Aliyeden\u201d olmal\u0131.<br \/>\nBuraya kadar \u0130stanbul Patri\u011fi se\u00e7ilecek ki\u015fi ile ayn\u0131 \u00f6zelliklere vurgu yapmakta. Fakat, Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi se\u00e7ilecek ki\u015finin \u201ccemaat\u0131 mezk\u00fcre piskopos veya ruhbanlar\u0131ndan bulunmas\u0131, ve cemaat\u0131 mezk\u00fcreden infisal etmemi\u015f olmas\u0131 iktiba eder\u201d. Terc\u00fcmesi \u015fu: Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi olacak ki\u015finin Kud\u00fcs kongregasyonu episkoposlar\u0131ndan veya rahiplerinden olmas\u0131 gerekir ve bu \u015fah\u0131s kongregasyondan, yani \u201cmiapanutyun\u201ddan ayr\u0131lm\u0131\u015f biri olmamal\u0131. Antrparantez belirtmek isterim; bu kural bug\u00fcne kadar uygulan\u0131r. Nerede do\u011fdu\u011funa veya nerede g\u00f6rev yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131na bak\u0131lmaks\u0131z\u0131n, Kud\u00fcs patri\u011fi sadece kongregasyon i\u00e7inden ve kongregasyon taraf\u0131ndan se\u00e7ilir.<br \/>\n\u0130stanbul Patri\u011fi i\u00e7in benzer bir \u015fart yok. \u0130stanbul Patrikli\u011fi bir manast\u0131r merkezi de\u011fil, \u201cmiapanutyun\u201da sahip de\u011fil, olmad\u0131 da. Bug\u00fcn at\u0131f yap\u0131lan nizamnameye g\u00f6re, \u0130stanbul Patri\u011fi olmak i\u00e7in E\u00e7miadzin taraf\u0131ndan takdis edilmek, 35 ya\u015f\u0131n\u0131 doldurmu\u015f olmak, babadan Osmanl\u0131 tebaas\u0131 olmak kaafi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nizamnamede Kozan ve Akhtamar yok. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc\u2026<\/strong><br \/>\nNizamnamede \u0130stanbul ve Kud\u00fcs patriklikleri hakk\u0131nda maddeler varken, Osmanl\u0131 s\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131 dahilinde bulunan Kozan ve Akhtamar Katolikosluklar\u0131 hakk\u0131nda tek bir sat\u0131r bile olmamas\u0131 dikkatinizi \u00e7ekti mi acaba? Nizamnamenin Ermeni toplumu taraf\u0131ndan haz\u0131rland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6z \u00f6n\u00fcne ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda, asl\u0131nda binlerce y\u0131ll\u0131k kilise tarihi boyunca E\u00e7miadzin\u2019e kar\u015f\u0131 kurulmu\u015f bu merkezlerin nas\u0131l alg\u0131land\u0131\u011f\u0131 konusunda da bir fikir sahibi olabiliriz. Kilisenin resmi merkezi olan E\u00e7miadzin\u2019e kar\u015f\u0131 o veya bu nedenle kurulmu\u015f bu katolikosluklar tabii ki nizamnameye dahil edilip legalize edilemezdi, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla sadece E\u00e7miadzin taraf\u0131ndan takdis edilen ki\u015filer \u201cez-kadim patrikli\u011fe mahsus piskoposlar s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131na\u201d dahil olabilirdi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cAlayl\u0131\u201d \u00a0Patrikler<\/strong><br \/>\nGelin \u00f6rneklerle konu\u015fal\u0131m biraz\u2026<br \/>\nEn \u00fcnl\u00fc patriklerden Ye\u011fi\u015fe Turyan her ne kadar Arma\u015f Manast\u0131r\u0131 kurucular\u0131ndan olsa da, manast\u0131r y\u00fcz\u00fc g\u00f6rmemi\u015fti. Di\u011fer \u00fcnl\u00fc patrikler Mateos \u0130zmirliyan, Hovhannes Ar\u015faruni, Nerses Varjabedyan gibi yani. Bu isimler \u0130stanbul\u2019da manast\u0131r olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in herhangi bir manast\u0131r tedrisat\u0131ndan ge\u00e7mi\u015f de\u011fildi, Galatasaray Lisesi ve benzeri sivil okullarda e\u011fitim alm\u0131\u015flar ve kiliseye hizmet i\u00e7in ruhani olmu\u015flard\u0131. \u201c\u0130stanbul episkoposu\u201d de\u011fil, tabiri caizse \u201calayl\u0131\u201d ruhanilerdi hepsi de, E\u00e7miadzin\u2019de episkopos takdis edildikleri veya daha sonra E\u00e7miadzin\u2019e ba\u011fl\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 ilan ettikleri i\u00e7in \u201cez-kadim patrikli\u011fe mahsus piskoposlar s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131na\u201d dahillerdi.<br \/>\nBug\u00fcn baz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201c\u0130stanbul Patrikli\u011fi episkoposu\u201d tabiri kulak t\u0131rmalayan bir deyim, zira \u0130stanbul bir manas\u0131r kongregasyonuna sahip de\u011fil. \u0130stanbul kendi episkoposlar\u0131n\u0131 takdis eden bir katolikosluk merkezi de de\u011fil. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, E\u00e7miadzin episkoposlar\u0131 \u0130stanbul\u2019a mahsus olmu\u015flard\u0131r en ba\u015ftan. \u00a0Mesela bug\u00fcn Beyrut\u2019ta bulunan Kilikya Katolikoslu\u011fu episkoposlar\u0131ndan Varujan Hergelyan, soyad\u0131ndan da net olarak anla\u015f\u0131laca\u011f\u0131 \u00fczere, Samanda\u011fl\u0131d\u0131r. Patrik aday listesinde ad\u0131 dahi ge\u00e7memesinin nedeni E\u00e7miadzin taraf\u0131ndan de\u011fil, Kilikya Katolikoslu\u011fu taraf\u0131ndan episkopos takdis edilmesi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kalustyan ve Kazanciyan nereden geldi?<\/strong><br \/>\nDaha yak\u0131n tarihe gelecek olursak. 1961 talimatnamesi ile se\u00e7ilen ilk patrik olan \u015e\u0131norhk Kalustyan 1913 Yozgat do\u011fumlu. 1915\u2019de yetim kald\u0131ktan sonra, 1927\u2019de Kud\u00fcs\u2019e gitmi\u015f. \u0130ngiltere ve ABD\u2019de g\u00f6rev yapm\u0131\u015f. 1955\u2019de E\u00e7miadzin\u2019de episkopos takdis edildi. 1960\u2019da misafir olarak geldi\u011fi \u0130stanbul\u2019da Karekin Ha\u00e7aduryan\u2019\u0131n aniden vefat etmesinden sonra patrik se\u00e7ilir. Halefi Karekin Kazanc\u0131yan da \u015e\u0131norhk Kalustyan gibi Kud\u00fcs kongregasyonu \u00fcyesi idi. Bir s\u00fcre \u0130stanbul\u2019da g\u00f6rev yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. 30 y\u0131ll\u0131k aradan sonra 1990\u2019da patrik olarak \u0130stanbul\u2019a d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc.<br \/>\nUzun laf\u0131n k\u0131sas\u0131, e\u011fer 2019 talimatnamesini \u201csadece \u0130stanbul episkoposlar\u0131\u201d olarak okuyanlara uyarsak, I. \u015e\u0131norhk ve II. Karekin \u0130stanbul\u2019a patrik olamayacakt\u0131, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc ikisi de Kud\u00fcs episkoposu idi.<br \/>\nOnlar T\u00fcrkiye do\u011fumlu veya \u201cbabadan T\u00fcrk\u201d olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in \u0130stanbul\u2019a patrik olabildi. Al\u0131nan bir hakk\u0131 bug\u00fcn neden elimizin tersiyle itip, ki\u015fisel h\u0131rslardan dolay\u0131 \u0130stanbul Patriklik makam\u0131n\u0131n gelece\u011fini tehlikeye atal\u0131m? Bug\u00fcn T\u00fcrkiye do\u011fumlu olup da E\u00e7miadzin Katolikoslu\u011fu, Kud\u00fcs Patrikli\u011fi b\u00fcnyesinde, Amerika\u2019da yahut ba\u015fka yerlerde g\u00f6rev yapan ruhaniler var; Khajak Barsamyan, Sebuh \u00c7ulcuyan, Viken Aykazyan, Sevan \u011earibyan, Taniel F\u0131nd\u0131kl\u0131yan, Vazken Karayan vs. gibi. Kendimizi neden bu insanlardan mahrum edip, Ermeni Kilisesi\u2019nin b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcyle olan ba\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 zay\u0131flatal\u0131m? 1961 Talimatnamesinde bulunan \u015fartlar\u0131 iyile\u015ftirmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnecekken, kazan\u0131lan haklar\u0131m\u0131zdan dahi feraget etmeyi konu\u015fuyorsak ger\u00e7ekten halimiz yaman\u2026<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazi\/22998\/tekrar-istanbula-mahsus-episkoposlar-uzerine\"><strong><em>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazi\/22998\/tekrar-istanbula-mahsus-episkoposlar-uzerine<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>E\u011fer 2019 talimatnamesini \u201csadece \u0130stanbul episkoposlar\u0131\u201d olarak okuyanlara uyarsak, I. \u015e\u0131norhk ve II. Karekin \u0130stanbul\u2019a patrik olamayacakt\u0131, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc ikisi de Kud\u00fcs episkoposu idi. Onlar T\u00fcrkiye do\u011fumlu veya \u201cbabadan T\u00fcrk\u201d olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in \u0130stanbul\u2019a patrik olabildi. Al\u0131nan bir hakk\u0131 bug\u00fcn neden elimizin tersiyle itip, ki\u015fisel h\u0131rslardan dolay\u0131 \u0130stanbul Patriklik makam\u0131n\u0131n gelece\u011fini tehlikeye atal\u0131m? 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