{"id":5247,"date":"2011-04-18T12:46:21","date_gmt":"2011-04-18T17:46:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=5247"},"modified":"2011-04-18T12:47:14","modified_gmt":"2011-04-18T17:47:14","slug":"biz-hrant-dink-kadar-cesur-degiliz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=5247","title":{"rendered":"Biz Hrant Dink kadar cesur de\u011filiz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-5248\" href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=5248\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5248\" title=\"Agos\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/Agos.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"96\" height=\"80\" \/><\/a>M\u00dcJGAN HAL\u0130S<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>Agos gazetesi bundan 15 y\u0131l \u00f6nce bir grup Ermeni ayd\u0131n\u0131n bir araya gelmesiyle kuruldu. Onlardan biri de kartvizinde &#8216;so\u011futma ustas\u0131&#8217; yazan Sarkis Seropyan&#8217;d\u0131. Gazetenin Ermenice sayfalar\u0131n\u0131n edit\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yapan Seropyan &#8220;Agos hep sol ve ele\u015ftirel bir gazete olacak,&#8221; diyor.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Sarkis<strong> <\/strong>Seropyan (75) bir gazeteci, tan\u0131yanlar onu T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin ya\u015fayan en bilgili ayd\u0131nlar\u0131ndan oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Onun en \u00f6nemli \u00f6zelliklerinden biri de 60 ya\u015f\u0131nda\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>&#8216;un kurucu kadrosunun i\u00e7inde yer almas\u0131. \u0130lk say\u0131s\u0131 5 Nisan 1996&#8217;da yay\u0131mlanan ve bu y\u0131l 15 ya\u015f\u0131na giren\u00a0<em>Agos <\/em>gazetesinin do\u011fum g\u00fcn\u00fc vesileyle bir araya geldi\u011fimiz Seropyan&#8217;la gazetenin ilk g\u00fcnlerine gittik. Ermeni kimli\u011finin i\u015fkence \u00e7ekti\u011fi g\u00fcnlerde yay\u0131mlanan, K\u00fcrt meselesinin bile Ermenilere atfetildi\u011fi o g\u00fcnlerde bir grup insan\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck bir cesaretle yay\u0131mlama karar\u0131 ald\u0131\u011f\u0131\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>, s\u00f6zc\u00fck anlam\u0131yla &#8216;saban\u0131n suda a\u00e7t\u0131\u011f\u0131 ark&#8217; anlam\u0131na geliyor. 1915&#8217;te askeri doktor olan b\u00fcy\u00fck dedesini kaybeden, ailesinin b\u00fcy\u00fck k\u0131sm\u0131 da\u011f\u0131lan Sarkis Seropyan \u00fc\u00e7 ku\u015fakt\u0131r \u0130stanbullu olan bir Ermeni. Ortaokuldan sonra okuyamam\u0131\u015f ve &#8216;so\u011futma ustas\u0131&#8217; olmu\u015f. Ama bir yandan da okuyup yazmaktan hi\u00e7 vazge\u00e7memi\u015f. Ve 60 ya\u015f\u0131nda kendisini\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>&#8216;ta anadilinde yaz\u0131 yazarken bulmu\u015f. Hrant Dink&#8217;in \u00f6nc\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde &#8216;suyun akt\u0131\u011f\u0131 yer&#8217; imgesi ile 15 y\u0131l \u00f6nce ba\u015flayan\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>&#8216;un hikayesini\u00a0<em>Cang\u00fcl\u00fcm Anahit ve Kazben <\/em>kitab\u0131n\u0131n da yazar\u0131 olan Sarkis Seropyan&#8217;la konu\u015ftuk.<br \/>\n<strong>&#8211; Bundan 15 y\u0131l \u00f6nce\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>&#8216;u \u00e7\u0131kartmaya karar verdiniz. O g\u00fcnlere geri d\u00f6nelim mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Benim o zamanlarda bir d\u00fckkan\u0131m vard\u0131, 1995 y\u0131l\u0131nda Hrant Dink bana geldi ve &#8216;Bir gazete kuruyoruz, var m\u0131s\u0131n a\u011fabey?&#8217; dedi. Ben de hi\u00e7 nazlanmadan &#8216;Var\u0131m,&#8217; dedim. Birka\u00e7 arkada\u015fla birlikte ayl\u0131k bir dergi \u00e7\u0131karmay\u0131 ve orada bir \u015feyleri yazmay\u0131 zaten istiyordum. O g\u00fcne kadar g\u00fcnl\u00fck gazetelerde ve sanat dergilerinde Ermenice yaz\u0131 yazm\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131m da vard\u0131. Ama daha \u00e7ok seyahat yaz\u0131lar\u0131 ve g\u00fcncel meselelerle ilgiliydim, politik konulara girmezdim. Bir araya geldikten sonra kafam\u0131zda gazeteyi tasarlamaya ba\u015flad\u0131k. Gazetenin ilk kurucular\u0131 tan\u0131d\u0131klar\u0131md\u0131 zaten, ya\u015f\u00e7a hepsinden b\u00fcy\u00fckt\u00fcm.<br \/>\n<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>PASKALYA, DO\u011eUM G\u00dcN\u00dcM\u00dcZ<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n&#8211; O isimleri hat\u0131rlayal\u0131m m\u0131? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Tabii iyi olur. (Elindeki foto\u011fraflara bakarak) Hrant Dink, Luiz Bakar, Harutyun \u015ee\u015fetyan, Anna Turay, Sarkis Seropyan, Arus Yumul, Sendi Zuriko\u011flu, Diran Bakar, Setrak Davuthan, N\u0131ver Lazo\u011flu ve birka\u00e7 ki\u015fi daha&#8230;<br \/>\n<strong>-Siz o zaman 60 ya\u015f\u0131nda m\u0131yd\u0131n\u0131z?<br \/>\n<\/strong> &#8211; 60 m\u0131 oluyor bakay\u0131m, 1935 do\u011fumluyum evet 60 ya\u015f\u0131mdaym\u0131\u015f\u0131m. Bu sayd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ki\u015filerin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda o foto\u011fraflara girmeyen, giremeyen, girmek istemeyen arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z vard\u0131. \u0130sim saymak gerekirse Anna Turay&#8217;\u0131n i\u015f arkada\u015flar\u0131, yazar\u00e7izerlerden \u00dcmit K\u0131van\u00e7, Kemal G\u00f6khan G\u00fcrses, Rag\u0131p Duran. Ve 96&#8217;n\u0131n nisan ay\u0131nda art\u0131k gazeteyi \u00e7\u0131karmaya karar verdik. Birinci say\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 bir Paskalya Bayram\u0131 arifesinde \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131k. Bu y\u00fczden de\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>&#8216;un y\u0131ld\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fc hep Paskalya Bayram\u0131&#8217;nda kutlan\u0131r. \u00d6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki pazar hem Paskalya&#8217;y\u0131 hem de\u00a0<em>Agos<\/em>&#8216;un ya\u015f g\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00fc kutlayaca\u011f\u0131z.<br \/>\n<strong>-\u00d6zel bir 15. y\u0131l program\u0131 var m\u0131? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Hay\u0131r, biz 19 Ocak 2007&#8217;den beri \u00f6yle co\u015fkulu kutlamalar yapm\u0131yoruz. En son 10. kutlamam\u0131z\u0131 hep beraber yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. Y\u0131lba\u015f\u0131na da yak\u0131n bir tarihti. Hrant&#8217;la son e\u011flencemizdi o. Vur patlas\u0131n \u00e7al oynas\u0131n Hrant&#8217;\u0131 oynatm\u0131\u015ft\u0131k o g\u00fcn.\u00a0<strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>D\u00d6RT SAYFA ERMEN\u0130CE \u00c7IKIYOR<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><strong>&#8211;\u00a0<em>Agos <\/em>y\u0131llar i\u00e7erisinde nas\u0131l bir etki uyand\u0131rd\u0131 sizce T\u00fcrkiye kamuoyunda?<br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8211;\u00a0<em>Agos <\/em>ilk yay\u0131mland\u0131\u011f\u0131 zamanlarda biriki tan\u0131t\u0131m toplant\u0131s\u0131 yapt\u0131k. O toplant\u0131lardan biri de Gazeteciler Cemiyeti&#8217;nde yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu kokteyle Ermeni cemaatinden \u00f6nemli ki\u015filer geldi\u011fi gibi, T\u00fcrk bas\u0131n\u0131ndan da hayli etkili insan gelmi\u015fti. O g\u00fcnlerde kendimizi iyi tan\u0131tabiliyorduk, insanlar kuyru\u011fa girip abonelik kayd\u0131 yapt\u0131r\u0131yordu. Ama o arada bizim cemaatimizden negatif baz\u0131 ki\u015filer &#8216;Yahu ne kadar \u00f6mr\u00fc olacak ki b\u00f6yle bir gazetenin, bir senelik abone olma, alt\u0131 ay yeter, nas\u0131l olsa alt\u0131 aya kadar batar,&#8217; diyordu. Hatta hi\u00e7 gelmeyenler vard\u0131, inkar edenler vard\u0131, &#8216;Bunlar Ermeni alfabesine, Ermeni harflerine ihanet ediyor,&#8217; diyenler vard\u0131. Bir-iki say\u0131da biraz cesur say\u0131labilecek, devleti ele\u015ftiren yaz\u0131lar \u00e7\u0131k\u0131nca &#8216;Bunlar bir yerden g\u00fc\u00e7 al\u0131yorlar, bunlar M\u0130T yahu,&#8217; bile dediler. \u0130\u015fin garip taraf\u0131, biz bunlar\u0131 diyenleri tan\u0131yorduk.<br \/>\n<strong>&#8211; Bunlar\u0131 Ermeni cemaati mi s\u00f6yl\u00fcyordu?<\/strong> <strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ne yaz\u0131k ki hem de en ileri gelenleri. Bir ismi tepkilerimizle susturduk, hatta baya\u011f\u0131 sert bir tepki g\u00f6stermi\u015f olmal\u0131y\u0131z ki art\u0131k pek konu\u015fmuyor. Ondan \u00f6nce konu\u015fur, yazard\u0131. B\u00fct\u00fcn bunlara kar\u015f\u0131n, kimsenin adam\u0131, kimsenin yak\u0131n\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7in i\u00e7imiz rahatt\u0131.<br \/>\n<strong>-Siz gazetenin Ermenice sayfalar\u0131n\u0131n edit\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yap\u0131yorsunuz de\u011fil mi?<br \/>\n<\/strong>-Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7tan beri Ermenice yazabildi\u011fim i\u00e7in belki Ermenice sayfalarla ilgileniyordum. Ama zaman zaman ba\u015fka s\u0131fatlar\u0131m oldu, hatta yarg\u0131land\u0131m, ceza yedim. Bug\u00fcn 24 sayfal\u0131k gazetenin d\u00f6rt sayfas\u0131 Ermenice \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Ve bu Ermenice \u00e7\u0131kan sayfalar \u00e7eviri de\u011fildir. Ermenice sayfalarda \u00f6zg\u00fcn yazarlar\u0131m\u0131z var, onlar T\u00fcrk\u00e7e sayfalarda yok.<br \/>\n<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Ermeni alg\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftirdik<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8220;Agos&#8217;un Ermenilerin T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de tan\u0131nmas\u0131na, en az\u0131ndan art\u0131k negatif de\u011fil de, pozitif tan\u0131nmas\u0131na b\u00fcy\u00fck katk\u0131s\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Zaten en ba\u015ftan beri ama\u00e7lar\u0131m\u0131zdan biri de buydu. 60 bin civar\u0131nda oldu\u011fu tahmin edilen \u0130stanbul Ermeni toplumunun (\u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc hi\u00e7bir n\u00fcfus say\u0131m\u0131nda Ermeniler say\u0131lmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r) y\u00fczde 80&#8217;i Ermenice okuyup yazam\u0131yor. Bu y\u00fczden Ermenice yay\u0131n yapan gazetelerin tiraj\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor ama Agos&#8217;un tiraj\u0131 y\u00fckseliyordu. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc Agos, Ermenice okuyamayan ama bu y\u00fczden de kendilerini Ermenilerden uzak tutanlar\u0131 muhatap ald\u0131. Kar\u015f\u0131 olanlar, k\u00fcfredenler de yok de\u011fildi. Onlara bir s\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcz yok ama Ermeniyi d\u00fc\u015fman bilen d\u00fcr\u00fcst insanlar Agos&#8217;u okumaya ba\u015flay\u0131nca kendisine \u00f6\u011fretilenlerin yanl\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funu g\u00f6r\u00fcyordu. O g\u00fcnlerde Hrant &#8216;Oraya sak\u0131n gitme,&#8217; denilen yerlere gitmi\u015f, \u00f6nce yuhalanm\u0131\u015f ama sonunda oradan sarma\u015f dola\u015f \u00e7ekilmi\u015f foto\u011fraflarla ayr\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bu, Agos&#8217;un tutumu sayesinde oldu ve Hrant&#8217;tan ba\u015fka biri buna cesaret edememi\u015fti, ondan sonra da kimse ceserat edemedi. &#8216;Agos de\u011fi\u015fti,&#8217; diye bir kan\u0131 varsa \u015fundand\u0131r: Agos&#8217;un de\u011fi\u015fti\u011fini zannedenler Hrant&#8217;\u0131n olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 fark edenlerdir. Biz Hrant kadar cesur de\u011filiz galiba.&#8221;<br \/>\n<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Sald\u0131rganlar\u0131 pencereden izliyorduk<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n&#8211; Agos&#8217;u \u00e7evreleyen bir bask\u0131, ku\u015fatma s\u00fcreci ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131nda Agos \u00e7al\u0131\u015fanlar\u0131 olarak neler yap\u0131yordunuz?<br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8211; Pencereden izliyorduk onlar\u0131. Her hafta yeni bir grup geliyordu. Bir gece ans\u0131z\u0131n geleceklerini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlard\u0131, &#8216;ya sev ya terk et&#8217; diye ba\u011f\u0131r\u0131yorlard\u0131. &#8216;Ya sev ya terk et&#8217; s\u00f6z\u00fc beni \u00e7ok k\u0131zd\u0131r\u0131yor. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ben kimsenin sevgisini \u00f6l\u00e7emedi\u011fime g\u00f6re, kimse de benim sevgimi tartamaz. Bu s\u00f6z da\u011fda ta\u015fta, duvarda, her yerde kar\u015f\u0131ma \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Bir keresinde Tunceli&#8217;de bile kar\u015f\u0131ma \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. O c\u00fcmleyi g\u00f6r\u00fcnce &#8216;Benim gelece\u011fimi nereden duydunuz da, bunu yazd\u0131n\u0131z?&#8217; diye tak\u0131ld\u0131m, o s\u0131rada orada olan bir K\u00fcrt &#8216;Onu senin i\u00e7in de\u011fil, bizim i\u00e7in yazd\u0131lar,&#8217; demi\u015fti. Ge\u00e7en sene Van-\u00c7atak karayolunda gidiyorduk, yeni yak\u0131lm\u0131\u015f hen\u00fcz dumanlar\u0131 t\u00fcten bir ormanl\u0131k alan g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. &#8216;Yang\u0131n m\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131?&#8217; diye sordu\u011fumda jandarman\u0131n yakt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendim. PKK art\u0131k orada saklanmas\u0131n diyeymi\u015f. Bunlar m\u0131 seviyor \u015fimdi vatan\u0131, orman\u0131n\u0131 yakan vatan\u0131n\u0131 sevebilir mi? Biz ger\u00e7ekten seviyoruz buray\u0131, art\u0131k sa\u011f\u0131r sultan bile duydu bunu.<br \/>\n<strong>-Agos&#8217;un isim babas\u0131 kim?<br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8211; Agos&#8217;un ismini gen\u00e7ler koydu esas\u0131nda. Gen\u00e7leri toplad\u0131 bir g\u00fcn Hrant: &#8216;Agos mu, Parev mi?&#8217; diye sordu. Agos&#8217;un kelime anlam\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenince, &#8216;Agos olsun,&#8217; dediler. Ama hakk\u0131n\u0131 yemeyelim Agos ismini ilk ortaya atan o d\u00f6nem Ermenice sayfalar\u0131n\u0131 yapan Rupen Ma\u015foyan&#8217;d\u0131.<br \/>\n<strong>-Bundan sonras\u0131 i\u00e7in hedef ne?<\/strong><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong>&#8211; Yolumuza aynen devam ediyoruz. Bir g\u00fcn Hrant&#8217;la konu\u015furken &#8216;Agos&#8217;un \u00f6nemini sen bile tam olarak anlayamad\u0131n a\u011fabey, g\u00fcn gelecek anlayacaks\u0131n. Agos&#8217;tan \u00f6nce ve sonra diye iki milat olacak,&#8217; dedi. Dedi\u011fi do\u011fruydu ama ben o s\u00f6z\u00fc biraz de\u011fi\u015ftiriyorum art\u0131k &#8216;Hrant&#8217;tan \u00f6nce ve Hrant&#8217;tan sonra&#8217; diye. Evet Agos&#8217;la \u00e7ok \u015fey de\u011fi\u015fti ama bunlar Hrant&#8217;la de\u011fi\u015fti. Biz yine Agos&#8217;u Hrant&#8217;\u0131n \u00e7izdi\u011fi yoldan devam ettirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz; yani sol, ele\u015ftirel ve her zaman inand\u0131\u011f\u0131 do\u011frular\u0131 savunan bir gazete olaca\u011f\u0131z.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>17.04.2011<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/sabah.com.tr\/Pazar\/2011\/04\/17\/biz-hrant-dink-kadar-cesur-degiliz\">http:\/\/sabah.com.tr\/Pazar\/2011\/04\/17\/biz-hrant-dink-kadar-cesur-degiliz<\/a><\/em><\/strong><strong><em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>M\u00dcJGAN HAL\u0130S Agos gazetesi bundan 15 y\u0131l \u00f6nce bir grup Ermeni ayd\u0131n\u0131n bir araya gelmesiyle kuruldu. Onlardan biri de kartvizinde &#8216;so\u011futma ustas\u0131&#8217; yazan Sarkis Seropyan&#8217;d\u0131. Gazetenin Ermenice sayfalar\u0131n\u0131n edit\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc yapan Seropyan &#8220;Agos hep sol ve ele\u015ftirel bir gazete olacak,&#8221; diyor. Sarkis Seropyan (75) bir gazeteci, tan\u0131yanlar onu T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin ya\u015fayan en bilgili ayd\u0131nlar\u0131ndan oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor. 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