{"id":51576,"date":"2019-02-27T03:56:27","date_gmt":"2019-02-27T08:56:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=51576"},"modified":"2019-02-27T03:56:27","modified_gmt":"2019-02-27T08:56:27","slug":"nuh-nereye-kondu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=51576","title":{"rendered":"Nuh nereye kondu?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=51577\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-51577\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-51577\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Ararat.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/02\/Ararat.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/02\/Ararat-360x203.jpg 360w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/02\/Ararat-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/02\/Ararat-560x315.jpg 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/02\/Ararat-260x146.jpg 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/02\/Ararat-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sevan Ni\u015fanyan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Ararat ad\u0131 Yahudi Kutsal Kitab\u0131nda d\u00f6rt kez ge\u00e7iyor. En \u00fcnl\u00fcs\u00fc Yarat\u0131l\u0131\u015f (Genesis) kitab\u0131 8:4 \u2013 Tufan\u2019dan sonra Nuh\u2019un gemisi \u201cyedinci ay\u0131n on yedinci g\u00fcn\u00fc\u00a0Ararat da\u011flar\u0131na\u00a0oturdu\u201d. \u2018Ararat da\u011f\u0131\u2019 de\u011fil, gayet sarih \u2018Ararat da\u011flar\u0131\u2019,\u00a0hare Ararad\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u05d4\u05b8\u05e8\u05b5\u05d9<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u05d0\u05b2\u05e8\u05b8\u05e8\u05b8\u05d8<\/em><\/strong><strong><em>\u00a0, \u00e7o\u011ful.<br \/>\n<\/em><\/strong>2 Krallar 19:37 ve onu aynen tekrarlayan Ye\u015faya 37:38\u2019de Ararat\u2019\u0131n bir \u00fclke oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011freniyoruz: Asur kral\u0131 Sanherib (\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc M\u00d6 681) Musul yak\u0131n\u0131ndaki Ninive\u2019de \u201cbir g\u00fcn ilah\u0131 Nisrok\u2019un tap\u0131na\u011f\u0131nda tap\u0131n\u0131rken, o\u011fullar\u0131ndan Adrammelek\u2019le \u015eareser, onu k\u0131l\u0131\u00e7la \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcp\u00a0Ararat \u00fclkesine\u00a0ka\u00e7t\u0131lar.\u201dYeremya 51:27\u2019de Yeremya peygamberin tanr\u0131s\u0131 uluslar\u0131 Babil\u2019e kar\u015f\u0131 sava\u015fa \u00e7a\u011f\u0131r\u0131rken \u201cArarat, Minni, A\u015fkenaz krall\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131\u00a0ona kar\u015f\u0131 toplay\u0131n; ona kar\u015f\u0131 bir komutan atay\u0131n; \u00e7ekirge s\u00fcr\u00fcs\u00fc kadar at g\u00f6nderin \u00fczerine\u201d diyerek sava\u015f k\u0131\u015fk\u0131rt\u0131c\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 yap\u0131yor. Buradaki A\u015fkenaz genel olarak at yeti\u015ftiricili\u011fiyle tan\u0131nan bir kuzey kavminin ad\u0131: belki \u0130skitler, ya da M\u00d6 714 ile M\u00d6 619 y\u0131llar\u0131 aras\u0131nda Anadolu\u2019yu talan ettikten sonra Kayseri ile Malatya aras\u0131nda bir yerlere yerle\u015ftikleri san\u0131lan Kimmerler. Minni, Asurcas\u0131 Mannai, Bat\u0131 \u0130ran\u2019da Urmiye G\u00f6l\u00fc civar\u0131ndaki bir krall\u0131k. Jewish Encyclopedia \u201cErmeni\u201d demi\u015f ama a\u00e7\u0131klamaya gerek g\u00f6rmemi\u015f. Ararat ise besbelli Asurlular\u0131n Urartu diye adland\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 krall\u0131\u011f\u0131n \u0130branicesi. Merkezi Van, Asur\u2019un ba\u015f d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131, M\u00d6 612\u2019de \u0130ran\u2019daki Medlerle bir olup Asur devletine son vermi\u015f, 27 y\u0131l sonra bu kez Med\u2019lere yenik d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f. Yeremya peygamber M\u00d6 626 ile 587 y\u0131llar\u0131 aras\u0131nda aktif oldu\u011funa g\u00f6re Allah\u2019tan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 mesajlarda g\u00fcncel d\u00fcnya politikas\u0131 da konu\u015fulmu\u015f g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor.Mezopotamya d\u00fczl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden kuzeye do\u011fru bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda Ararat \u00fclkesinin koca bir da\u011f k\u00fctlesi gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcnmesi normal. Mezopotamya\u2019y\u0131 sular bast\u0131\u011f\u0131nda ilk karaya \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z yerin \u201cArarat Da\u011flar\u0131\u201d \u2013 mesela o da\u011flar\u0131n en g\u00fcneydeki uzant\u0131s\u0131 olan Cudi Da\u011f\u0131 \u2013 olmas\u0131 da mant\u0131kl\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor, e\u011fer bu i\u015flerde mant\u0131k aran\u0131yorsa.*Aziz Eugenios, ya da S\u00fcryanice ad\u0131yla Mar Awgin, manast\u0131r gelene\u011fini 4. yy ba\u015flar\u0131nda M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019dan Mezopotamya\u2019ya getiren ki\u015fi olarak an\u0131l\u0131r. T\u00fcrbesi Nusaybin ile Cizre aras\u0131ndaki Girmeli\u2019nin s\u0131rt\u0131nda ku\u015f u\u00e7maz kervan ge\u00e7mez bir yerdedir. Y\u0131l 2000\u2019di galiba, M\u00fcjde ile ziyaret edip, en az bin y\u0131ll\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fcnen bir k\u0131r\u0131k kiremidini alm\u0131\u015f, \u015eirince\u2019deki evimizin duvar\u0131na eklemi\u015ftik.Aziz Eugenios\/Awgin menak\u0131bnamesinden \u00f6\u011frendi\u011fimize g\u00f6re bu muhterem\u00a0Qard\u00fb\u00a0ilinin k\u00f6ylerini gezip putperest halk\u0131 iman yoluna getirirken, Nuh\u2019un gemisinin bulundu\u011fu da\u011f\u0131n yak\u0131n\u0131nda Sarg\u00fbg\u00e2 adl\u0131 k\u00f6ye u\u011fram\u0131\u015f. Bu k\u00f6y, Sanherib\u2019in o\u011flu \u015ear-ussur\u2019\u0131n Ninive\u2019den ka\u00e7\u0131p geldi\u011fi yermi\u015f. Burada (\u00f6ld\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc) babas\u0131 ad\u0131na bir tap\u0131nak (t\u00fcrbe?) yapt\u0131rm\u0131\u015f; soyundan gelenler hal\u00e2, yani yakla\u015f\u0131k bin y\u0131l sonra, o tap\u0131na\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6zetmekte ve orada ibadet etmekteymi\u015f. (Paul Bedjan ed.,\u00a0Acta martyrum et sanctorum,\u00a0III.446, Paris 1896).Sarguga\u2019n\u0131n yeri belli de\u011fil ancak\u00a0Qard\u00fb \u00fclkesi\u00a0(B\u00eath Qard\u00fb) belli: eskilerin\u00a0Kurtoi\u00a0veya\u00a0Karduoi\u00a0veya\u00a0Gorduei\u00a0diye adland\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 halk\u0131n diyar\u0131, Ksenophon\u2019da\u00a0Karduxoi\u00a0\u00fclkesi, Strabon\u2019da\u00a0Gordu\u00ean\u00ea: bug\u00fcnk\u00fc \u015e\u0131rnak merkez ile G\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fckonak ve Eruh y\u00f6resi. \u201cNuh gemisinin bulundu\u011fu da\u011f\u201d derken, besbelli \u015e\u0131rnak\u2019\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131nda dev bir gemi gibi y\u00fckselen Cudi Da\u011f\u0131 kastedilmi\u015f.O e\u015fle\u015ftirmenin bildi\u011fimiz en eski ifadesi, Yahudi Kutsal Kitab\u0131n\u0131n halk dili olan Aramice meal ve tefsirleri olan\u00a0Targum\u2019lard\u0131r. Yonathan b. Uzziel Targum\u2019u Milattan hemen \u00f6nceki y\u0131llara aittir. Ye\u015faya 37:38 tefsirinde Sanherib\u2019in o\u011fullar\u0131n\u0131n ka\u00e7t\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00fclkeyi \u201cQardu \u00fclkesi\u201d olarak tefsir eder. (<a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.gr\/books?id=_boCAAAAQAAJ\">books.google.gr\/books?id=_boCAAAAQAAJ<\/a>, sf 126). MS 1. yy\u2019\u0131n ikinci yar\u0131s\u0131nda kaleme al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 kabul edilen Onkelos Targum\u2019unda Tevrat\u2019taki \u201cArarat Da\u011flar\u0131\u201d ifadesi Aramice \u201cQardu Da\u011f\u0131\u201d olarak yorumlan\u0131r (<a href=\"http:\/\/targum.info\/onk\/Gen6_11.htm\">targum.info\/onk\/Gen6_11.htm<\/a>). Daha ge\u00e7 tarihe ait Targum Yeru\u015falmi\u2019de da\u011f\u0131n ad\u0131\u00a0Qardon\u00a0Da\u011f\u0131 (t\u00fbre d\u2019qard\u00f4n), \u00fclkenin ad\u0131 ise\u00a0Qardania\u00a0olarak ge\u00e7er. (<a href=\"http:\/\/targum.info\/pj\/pjgen6-11.htm\">targum.info\/pj\/pjgen6-11.htm<\/a>, yaz\u0131m hatal\u0131, do\u011frusu Qardania).\u00a0Targum\u2019larla ayn\u0131 d\u00f6nemin eseri olan\u00a0P\u015fitta, Yahudi Kutsal Kitab\u0131n\u0131n bir ba\u015fka Arami leh\u00e7esi olan Urfa S\u00fcryanicesine \u00e7evirisidir. Orada da Ararat s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcn ge\u00e7ti\u011fi d\u00f6rt pasaj\u0131n her biri \u201cQardon da\u011flar\u0131\u201d ve \u201cQardon \u00fclkesi\u201d olarak terc\u00fcme edilir (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.peshitta.org\/\">www.peshitta.org\/<\/a>. \u00d6r. Genesis 8:4, ilk sat\u0131r \u0130branice\u00a0hare Ararat,\u00a0ikinci sat\u0131r Aramice\u00a0ture Qardon; \u0130ngilizcesi\u00a0mountains of Ararat).MS 1. yy\u2019da Yahudi inan\u00e7 ve t\u00f6relerini Greko-Romen d\u00fcnyas\u0131na tan\u0131tmaya giri\u015fen tarih\u00e7i\u00a0Josephus\u00a0kafam\u0131z\u0131 biraz kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131r\u0131r. MS 95 tarihli\u00a0Antiquitates Iudaicae\u2019nin 1. cilt 3. b\u00f6l\u00fcm 5-6 paragraflar\u0131na g\u00f6re Nuh\u2019un gemisi \u201cErmeni \u00fclkesinde\u201d (\u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u1f70 \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u1f08\u03c1\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd\u03af\u03b1\u03bd) Korduene\u2019liler Da\u011f\u0131n\u0131n (\u03c0\u03c1\u1f78\u03c2 \u03c4\u1ff7 \u1f44\u03c1\u03b5\u03b9 \u03c4\u1ff6\u03bd \u039a\u03bf\u03c1\u03b4\u03c5\u03b1\u03af\u03c9\u03bd) zirvesine konmu\u015ftur. (<a href=\"http:\/\/sacred-texts.com\/jud\/josephus\/ant-1.htm\">http:\/\/sacred-texts.com\/jud\/josephus\/ant-1.htm<\/a>) Geminin kal\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 hala mevcut olup insanlar bundan toplad\u0131klar\u0131 zift par\u00e7alar\u0131n\u0131 muska olarak ta\u015f\u0131rlar. Ermeniler Nuh\u2019un topra\u011fa ilk ayak bast\u0131\u011f\u0131 yere\u00a0\u0130\u00e7evan\u00a0(\u201cini\u015f yeri, menzil\u201d) ad\u0131n\u0131 verir ve geminin kal\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 ziyaret\u00e7ilere g\u00f6sterirler.\u201cErmenistan\u2019daki K\u00fcrt Da\u011f\u0131\u201d ilk bak\u0131\u015fta \u00e7eli\u015fki gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcnse de yoruma m\u00fcsaittir. Antik terminolojide Armenia \u00fclkesi Urartu krall\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile e\u015fde\u011ferdi; g\u00fcney s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131 \u015e\u0131rnak ve Hakkari\u2019yi de i\u00e7erirdi. Kordu \u00fclkesi (s\u0131k s\u0131k isyan edip ba\u015f\u0131na buyruk gitse de) bunun bir vilayetiydi. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla \u201cArmenia \u00fclkesinde Korduenelilerin Da\u011f\u0131\u201d pekala \u015e\u0131rnak\u2019taki Cudi Da\u011f\u0131 olabilir.S\u0131ra Kutsal Kitap\u2019\u0131n 382-384 y\u0131llar\u0131na yap\u0131lan standart Latince \u00e7evirisine gelince bir ad\u0131m daha ileri gideriz. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze dek Katolik kilisesinin tanr\u0131 kelam\u0131 kabul etti\u011fi bu metinde, Ararat s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fc\u00a0Armenia\u00a0olarak \u00a0\u00e7evrilmi\u015ftir. Buyurun: Genesis 8:4 \u201crequievitque arca mense septimo vicesima septima die mensis super montes\u00a0Armeniae.\u201d 2 Krallar 19:37 ve \u0130saiah 37:38 Sanherib\u2019in o\u011fullar\u0131 \u201cfugeruntque in terram\u00a0Armeniorum.\u201d Sadece Yeremya 51:27\u2019de Ararat krall\u0131\u011f\u0131 Ararat olarak kal\u0131r.Nuh\u2019un gemisi tufandan sonra kald\u0131\u011f\u0131 yerden kuzeye do\u011fru ad\u0131m ad\u0131m yol almaktad\u0131r\u2026*K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir parantez a\u00e7al\u0131m. Kuran\u2019\u0131n H\u00fbd suresi 25-46\u2019da aktard\u0131\u011f\u0131 Nuh tufan\u0131 versiyonuna g\u00f6re geminin karaya oturdu\u011fu yer\u00a0el-c\u00fbd\u00ee\u2019dir (\u0627\u0644\u062c\u0648\u062f\u0649). Kuran metni Targum\u2019lardaki ve P\u015fitta\u2019daki anlat\u0131y\u0131 olduk\u00e7a yak\u0131n bir \u015fekilde (fakat k\u0131saltarak ve araya mutat tehdit ve hakaret c\u00fcmlelerini ekleyerek) tekrarlar. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla el-C\u00fbd\u00ee adl\u0131 yerin bir \u015fekilde Targum metinlerindeki\u00a0Qard\u00fb\u00a0veya Josephus\u2019un Yunancas\u0131ndaki\u00a0Gordu\u2013 ad\u0131yla ilgili oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebiliriz. Aramice ve Yunanca \/g\/ sesinin, bu sesi tan\u0131mayan Arap dilinde daima \/c\/ \u015feklini ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, yine Arap\u00e7ada bulunmayan \/o\/ sesinin daima \/u\/ olarak telaffuz edildi\u011fini biliyoruz. Demek ki Arap\u00e7a bir anlam\u0131 olmayan C\u00fbd\u00ee, bu dillerdeki\u00a0God\u00ee\u00a0s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcne tekab\u00fcl eder veya en az\u0131ndan edebilir.\u00a0Aradaki \/r\/ harfinin kayb\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klayam\u0131yoruz. Kuran yazar\u0131 \u00a0bizim haberdar olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z bilgi kaynaklar\u0131na m\u0131 sahiptir? Yoksa ismi yanl\u0131\u015f duymu\u015f veya edit\u00f6r hatas\u0131na m\u0131 kurban gitmi\u015ftir? Bu sorular\u0131 sormakla yetinelim. \u00a0*A\u011fr\u0131 Da\u011f\u0131n\u0131n Ermenice \u00f6z ad\u0131 Ararat de\u011fildir,\u00a0Masis\u2019tir. Tamlayan hali\u00a0Maseats\u00a0olur, yani \u201cMasis Da\u011f\u0131\u201d de\u011fil\u00a0Maseats Ler\u00a0\u0544\u0561\u057d\u0565\u0561\u0581\u00a0\u056c\u0565\u057c\u00a0denir. B\u00fcy\u00fck olas\u0131l\u0131kla Eski Fars\u00e7a \u201cen b\u00fcy\u00fck\u201d anlam\u0131na gelen\u00a0masi\u015ft-\u00a0s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnden uyarlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Meis adas\u0131ndan tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z Yunancamegisti, majestelerinden tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z Latince\u00a0maiestas\u00a0\u00a0ve eski Anglosaksonca maest-\u2018ten gelen \u0130ngilizce\u00a0most\u00a0ile k\u00f6kte\u015ftir. Tabandan zirveye net y\u00fckseklik a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan Bat\u0131 Asya\u2019n\u0131n ve hatta san\u0131r\u0131m b\u00fct\u00fcn Asya\u2019n\u0131n en y\u00fcksek da\u011f\u0131na yak\u0131\u015f\u0131r bir isimdir.Eski Ermeni vakan\u00fcvislerinden Pavsdos Puzant (4. yy), \u011eazar Parpetsi ve Movses Xorenatsi (5. yy veya sonra), ve anonim A\u015fxarhatsuyts yazar\u0131 (7. yy) \u00a0da\u011fdan sadece Masis ad\u0131yla s\u00f6z ederler; da\u011fda bulunan Akori veya A\u011fori kentini anarlar. Fakat bu da\u011fla ilgili olarak Nuh tufan\u0131 efsanesine de\u011finmezler. 13. yy sonuna dek di\u011fer tarih\u00e7ilerde herhangi bir ba\u011flamda bu da\u011fdan s\u00f6z edene rastlamad\u0131m. Buna kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131k Pavsdos\u2019ta daha da ilgin\u00e7 bir detay buluruz. Bu tarih\u00e7inin muhtemelen bir S\u00fcryani kayna\u011f\u0131ndan aktard\u0131\u011f\u0131 Nusaybin\u2019li Aziz Yakup menk\u0131besine g\u00f6re, ol nurlu ki\u015fi Pers \u00fclkesinde bulunan Nusaybin kentinden<a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/blogger.g?blogID=1302467060357060984#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0\u00e7\u0131k\u0131p \u201cErmeni \u00fclkesinin s\u0131n\u0131rlar\u0131nda, Korduk diyar\u0131ndaki\u00a0Sararat\u00a0Da\u011f\u0131na\u201d gelir. Burada Allah\u2019a dua ederek Nuh\u2019un gemisinin yerini kendisine g\u00f6stermesi i\u00e7in yalvar\u0131r. \u00c7ok kurak olan da\u011fda susuzluktan \u00f6lmek \u00fczereyken Allah\u2019\u0131n inayetiyle yerden bir p\u0131nar \u00e7\u0131kar. Allah\u0131n mele\u011fi uykusunda Yakup\u2019a seslenerek arad\u0131\u011f\u0131 yerin buras\u0131 oldu\u011funu, daha ileri gitmemesi gerekti\u011fini bildirir. Uyand\u0131\u011f\u0131nda orada insan eliyle kesilmi\u015f birtak\u0131m tahtalar bulur, geminin kal\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 oldu\u011funu anlar. Bu m\u00fcthi\u015f mucize \u00fczerine y\u00f6re halk\u0131 Yakup\u2019un Allah taraf\u0131ndan se\u00e7ilmi\u015f biri oldu\u011funa inan\u0131r, co\u015fkuyla ona biat eder, p\u0131nar\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131 yeri kutsal sayar, onun buldu\u011fu tahtay\u0131 Allah\u2019\u0131n inayetinin b\u00fcy\u00fck bir simgesi sayarak saklar.Ayn\u0131 \u00f6yk\u00fcy\u00fc hemen hemen ayn\u0131 kelimelerle 12. yy\u2019da Urfal\u0131 Mateos Vekayinamesine zeyl yazan Rahip Grigor tekrarlayacak, ancak Sararat yerine\u00a0Ararat\u00a0ad\u0131n\u0131 kullanacakt\u0131r. Tahminimce Pavsdos\u2019un ekledi\u011fi S harfi bir m\u00fcstensih hatas\u0131 olsa gerekir.\u00d6yle anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor ki en az\u0131ndan 12. yy\u2019a dek Ermeni tarih\u00e7ileri, S\u00fcryani kom\u015fular\u0131na uyarak, Tevrat\u2019ta ad\u0131 ge\u00e7en \u201cArarat\u201d da\u011f\u0131n\u0131n K\u00fcrt diyar\u0131ndaki Cudi da\u011f\u0131 oldu\u011fu inanc\u0131n\u0131 korumu\u015flard\u0131r.*Ararat ad\u0131 ve Nuh efsanesi ilk ne zaman kesin olarak A\u011fr\u0131 Da\u011f\u0131na ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131?\u00a0Orta\u00e7a\u011f-sonras\u0131 Ermeni tarih\u00e7ilerini yeterince tan\u0131mad\u0131\u011f\u0131m i\u00e7in bu soruya tatmin edici bir cevap veremiyorum. O y\u00fczden Bat\u0131l\u0131 kaynaklarda standart olan bilgilerle yetinece\u011fim. Yayg\u0131n g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fe g\u00f6re \u00f6yk\u00fcn\u00fcn o versiyonunu ilk kez anlatan ki\u015fi 1253 y\u0131l\u0131nda Fransa kral\u0131 ad\u0131na Mo\u011fol Han\u0131na el\u00e7i giden Willem de Rubruquis\u2019tir. Ancak Rubruquis bilfiil A\u011fr\u0131 Da\u011f\u0131 y\u00f6resine gitmemi\u015f, \u0130stanbul\u2019daki Ermenilerden duyduklar\u0131n\u0131 aktarm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Anlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00f6yk\u00fc az \u00f6nce g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm\u00fcz Nusaybinli Aziz Yakup \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fcd\u00fcr. Da\u011f\u0131n ad\u0131 \u201cMasis veya Ararat\u201d olarak verilmi\u015f, Aras nehrinin bu da\u011f\u0131n eteklerinden do\u011fdu\u011fu bildirilmi\u015ftir. Nuh\u2019un ad\u0131m att\u0131\u011f\u0131 yerin ad\u0131 bu kez \u0130\u00e7evan de\u011fil \u2018Naksua\u2019d\u0131r. Yani Naxi\u00e7evan (\u201cilk ini\u015fyeri, ilk menzil\u201d). Bkz.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/journeyofwilliam00ruys\/\">archive.org\/details\/journeyofwilliam00ruys\/<\/a>\u00a0sf. 269-271.San\u0131r\u0131m Nah\u00e7ivan\u2019\u0131n ilk kez ne zaman bu isimle adland\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bulsak, Ararat da\u011f\u0131n\u0131n A\u011fr\u0131\u2019ya ta\u015f\u0131nma tarihinin \u00fcst limitini de bulmu\u015f oluruz.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/blogger.g?blogID=1302467060357060984#_ftnref1\"><em>[1]<\/em><\/a><em>\u00a0Ermenilerin Mtsbin ad\u0131yla and\u0131\u011f\u0131 Ns\u00eeb\u00een kenti 363 y\u0131l\u0131ndan \u0130slam istilas\u0131na dek \u0130ran (Sasani) imparatorlu\u011funun bat\u0131daki u\u00e7 kentiydi. D\u00fcz ovada bulunan Nusaybin ve Cizre kentleri \u0130ran\u2019a ait olan Gzirta (Cizre) diyar\u0131nda bulunurken, \u015e\u0131rnak\u2019\u0131n (387 veya 451 y\u0131l\u0131nda Sasani devletince yutulacak olan) Ermenistan krall\u0131\u011f\u0131na ait say\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor. Da\u011f\u0131n \u201ckurak\u201d olmas\u0131, A\u011fr\u0131 Da\u011f\u0131\u2019ndan s\u00f6z edilmedi\u011finin belirtisidir.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/nisanyan1.blogspot.com\/2019\/02\/nuh-nereye-kondu.html\"><strong><em>http:\/\/nisanyan1.blogspot.com\/2019\/02\/nuh-nereye-kondu.html<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sevan Ni\u015fanyan Ararat ad\u0131 Yahudi Kutsal Kitab\u0131nda d\u00f6rt kez ge\u00e7iyor. En \u00fcnl\u00fcs\u00fc Yarat\u0131l\u0131\u015f (Genesis) kitab\u0131 8:4 \u2013 Tufan\u2019dan sonra Nuh\u2019un gemisi \u201cyedinci ay\u0131n on yedinci g\u00fcn\u00fc\u00a0Ararat da\u011flar\u0131na\u00a0oturdu\u201d. \u2018Ararat da\u011f\u0131\u2019 de\u011fil, gayet sarih \u2018Ararat da\u011flar\u0131\u2019,\u00a0hare Ararad\u00a0\u05d4\u05b8\u05e8\u05b5\u05d9\u00a0\u05d0\u05b2\u05e8\u05b8\u05e8\u05b8\u05d8\u00a0, \u00e7o\u011ful. 2 Krallar 19:37 ve onu aynen tekrarlayan Ye\u015faya 37:38\u2019de Ararat\u2019\u0131n bir \u00fclke oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011freniyoruz: Asur kral\u0131 Sanherib (\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc M\u00d6 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":51578,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,70,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-51576","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-haberler","category-makaleler","category-tarih-sayfalari"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Nuh nereye kondu? - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=51576\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Nuh nereye kondu? - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Sevan Ni\u015fanyan Ararat ad\u0131 Yahudi Kutsal Kitab\u0131nda d\u00f6rt kez ge\u00e7iyor. 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