{"id":5105,"date":"2011-04-06T01:52:01","date_gmt":"2011-04-06T06:52:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=5105"},"modified":"2011-04-06T01:53:05","modified_gmt":"2011-04-06T06:53:05","slug":"%e2%80%9ccemal-pasa%e2%80%99nin-torunu-ne-diyecek%e2%80%9d","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=5105","title":{"rendered":"\u201cCemal Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n torunu ne diyecek?\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-5106\" href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=5106\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5106\" title=\"100_b\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/100_b.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"176\" height=\"200\" \/><\/a>\u0130ki sivil polisle arka kap\u0131dan giriyorum. G\u00fcvenlik \u00f6nlemleri galiba biraz abart\u0131lm\u0131\u015f&#8230;<br \/>\nSalon dolu.<br \/>\nYerde oturan gen\u00e7ler d\u0131\u015far\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kart\u0131l\u0131yor. \u0130tfaiye izin vermemi\u015f&#8230;<br \/>\nFark\u0131nday\u0131m, dikkatler \u00fcst\u00fcmde.<br \/>\n\u201cCemal Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n torunu ne diyecek?\u201d<br \/>\nKuliste vozurdayanlar olmu\u015f:<br \/>\n\u201c1915\u2019te bizi kesenlerin torununu ne diye davet ettiniz?\u201d<br \/>\nKula\u011f\u0131ma e\u011filiyor:<br \/>\n\u201cBizim de Kerin\u00e7siz\u2019lerimiz var.\u201d<br \/>\n\u201cBizimki kodeste!\u201d<br \/>\nOturdu\u011fum yerden bak\u0131\u015flar\u0131, y\u00fcz ifadelerini izliyorum. Rahats\u0131z edici bir vaziyet yok.<br \/>\nHer \u015fey s\u0131cak, dost\u00e7a&#8230;<br \/>\nAma yine de zor bir ak\u015fam bekliyor beni&#8230;<br \/>\nK\u0131sa ad\u0131 UCLA olan Los Angeles California \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde b\u00fcy\u00fck bir toplant\u0131 salonu.<br \/>\nK\u00fcrs\u00fcde benimle birlikte \u00fc\u00e7 ki\u015fi var.<br \/>\nBiri, Ermeni Diasporas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n a\u011f\u0131r topu, tarih\u00e7i Prof. Richard Hovannisian.<br \/>\nDi\u011feri, Dr. Pamela Steiner.<br \/>\n\u0130ki y\u0131l \u00f6nce Boston\u2019da, ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 Harvard Humanitarian Initiative\u2019in \u00e7at\u0131s\u0131 alt\u0131nda benim i\u00e7in benzer bir toplant\u0131 d\u00fczenlemi\u015fti.<br \/>\n\u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc ki\u015fi, Kurken Berksanlar.<br \/>\n\u0130stanbullu bir Ermeni, i\u015fadam\u0131.<br \/>\nToplant\u0131y\u0131 d\u00fczenleyen AGBU ASBEDS\u2019in tepe y\u00f6neticisi. 1906\u2019da Kahire\u2019de Nubar Pa\u015fa taraf\u0131ndan kurulan ASBEDS, Ermeni Diasporas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n en b\u00fcy\u00fck yard\u0131m \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fc&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kurken Bey toplant\u0131n\u0131n moderat\u00f6r\u00fc.<br \/>\nBana at\u0131\u015f serbest!<br \/>\nMemnunum, laf\u0131 istedi\u011fim gibi uzatabilece\u011fim. Di\u011fer ikisi benim s\u00f6ylediklerimi tart\u0131\u015facak, sonra da soru cevap fasl\u0131&#8230;<br \/>\n\u201cBenim i\u00e7in hi\u00e7 de kolay bir ak\u015fam olamayacak\u201d diye ba\u015fl\u0131yorum konu\u015fmama.<br \/>\n\u201cAnadolu\u2019dan size selam getirdim, k\u00f6klerimiz ayn\u0131 topraklara uzan\u0131yor, ac\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 biliyorum, payla\u015f\u0131yorum\u201d dedikten sonra, salona birka\u00e7 kelimelik Ermeniceyle de hitap edince alk\u0131\u015f kopuyor.<br \/>\nUzun ama g\u00fczel bir ak\u015famd\u0131.<br \/>\nHi\u00e7 kimsenin kayg\u0131land\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi olmad\u0131.<br \/>\n\u0130ki y\u0131l \u00f6nce Boston\u2019daki toplant\u0131dan d\u00f6nerken havaliman\u0131nda ba\u015f\u0131mdan ge\u00e7en bir olay\u0131 anlatt\u0131m toplant\u0131 biterken.<br \/>\nYan\u0131ma biri gelmi\u015fti. Ermeni bir gazeteciymi\u015f. Benim Boston\u2019daki konu\u015fmalar\u0131m\u0131 izledi\u011fini, be\u011fendi\u011fini belirttikten sonra \u015f\u00f6yle demi\u015fti:<br \/>\n\u201cSizi o\u011flum tan\u0131d\u0131. Ama o benim gibi yan\u0131n\u0131za gelip elinizi s\u0131kmak istemedi. Diaspora\u2019da gen\u00e7ler b\u00f6yle&#8230;\u201d<br \/>\nBunu anlatt\u0131ktan sonra devam ettim:<br \/>\n\u201cBen buraya Ermeni gen\u00e7lerine elimi uzatmak i\u00e7in geldim. Ac\u0131lar elbette unutulmayacak. Ama ac\u0131lar\u0131n bar\u0131\u015fa giden yollar\u0131 t\u0131kamas\u0131na da izin vermeyece\u011fiz.\u201d<br \/>\nBu s\u00f6zler de alk\u0131\u015f ald\u0131.<br \/>\nGen\u00e7 bir kad\u0131n geldi yan\u0131ma. Ermeni lisesinde \u00f6\u011fretmenmi\u015f.<br \/>\n\u015e\u00f6yle dedi:<br \/>\n\u201c\u0130\u015fte biz tam da bunu yapmaya ba\u015flad\u0131k okulda. Ermeni gen\u00e7lerine T\u00fcrklerin d\u00fc\u015fman olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131yoruz. Siz de bunu yap\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de, Ermenilerin d\u00fc\u015fman olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131za&#8230;\u201d<br \/>\nKula\u011f\u0131ma e\u011filiyor:<br \/>\n\u201cGe\u00e7enlerde gazetelerde okuduk. Korkun\u00e7tu. Galiba Bayburt\u2019un kurtulu\u015f g\u00fcn\u00fc kutlan\u0131rken, temsili olarak Ermeni \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131n s\u0131rt\u0131na ha\u00e7 vurulmu\u015ftu, yerlerde s\u00fcng\u00fclenenler var. Felaket bir resimdi. H\u00e2l\u00e2 b\u00f6yle kutlama olabilir mi?\u201d: Yerden g\u00f6\u011fe hakl\u0131yd\u0131.<br \/>\nBen de kendisine Karin Karaka\u015fl\u0131\u2019n\u0131n bu konuda Radikal \u0130ki\u2019de enfes bir ele\u015ftiri yaz\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledim.<br \/>\nBu arada Prof. Hovannisian ilk kez bir T\u00fcrk\u2019le nas\u0131l kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlatt\u0131.<br \/>\n18 ya\u015f\u0131ndaym\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">1951\u2019de San Francisco\u2019da Japonya\u2019yla ilgili bir konferansta kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131na bir T\u00fcrk \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f. T\u00fcrk oldu\u011funu yakas\u0131ndaki T\u00fcrk bayra\u011f\u0131ndan anlam\u0131\u015f. Bir an ne yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u015fa\u015f\u0131rm\u0131\u015f. Sonunda a\u011fz\u0131ndan \u015fu c\u00fcmle \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f:<br \/>\n\u201cH\u00e2l\u00e2 Ermenileri \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fcyor musunuz?\u201d<br \/>\nOnlara sevgili arkada\u015f\u0131m Bahad\u0131r Demir\u2019i anlatt\u0131m, 1973 y\u0131l\u0131 Ocak ay\u0131nda, Los Angeles\u2019ta ya\u015fl\u0131 bir Ermeninin cinayetine kurban giden ilk T\u00fcrk diplomat\u0131n\u0131&#8230;<br \/>\nSessizce dinlediler.<br \/>\nBir ba\u015fkas\u0131, bir Ermeni genci, 1980\u2019lerin ba\u015f\u0131nda Beyrut\u2019tan Amerika\u2019ya okumak i\u00e7in gelmi\u015f. \u00dcniversite kafeteryas\u0131nda s\u0131ra beklerken yan\u0131na biri gelmi\u015f. T\u00fcrk oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frenince duygular\u0131n\u0131 \u015f\u00f6yle anlat\u0131yor:<br \/>\n\u201c\u0130lk kez kar\u015f\u0131mda bir T\u00fcrk&#8230; Elim aya\u011f\u0131m bo\u015fald\u0131. Bir T\u00fcrk! Ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131, ona nas\u0131l davranaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131 \u015fa\u015f\u0131rd\u0131m.\u201d<br \/>\nBu duvarlar h\u00e2l\u00e2 y\u0131k\u0131lmay\u0131 bekliyor.<br \/>\nT\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin, Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n, Ermeni Diasporas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n ve iki tarafta da sivil toplumun yapmas\u0131 gerekenler var bunun i\u00e7in.<br \/>\nDiyalog kanallar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7o\u011falt\u0131lmas\u0131, geni\u015fletilmesi laz\u0131m. T\u00fcrkiye-Ermenistan s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131 mutlaka a\u00e7\u0131lmal\u0131. Ankara, Ermeni Diasporas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n bir \u00f6c\u00fc olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlamal\u0131. Ders kitaplar\u0131 yeniden yaz\u0131lmal\u0131&#8230; 1915\u2019in, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u00e7ok daha \u00f6zg\u00fcrce tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131 \u015fart.<br \/>\nBir de 1915 var.<br \/>\nSoyk\u0131r\u0131m, yaln\u0131z Ermeniler de\u011fil, neredeyse b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnya i\u00e7in \u00f6yle.<br \/>\nSoyk\u0131r\u0131m ger\u00e7e\u011fi de\u011fi\u015fmez.<br \/>\nAma bu ger\u00e7ek, T\u00fcrkiye-Ermenistan s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131n\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131, ili\u015fkilerin normalle\u015fme ray\u0131na oturmas\u0131n\u0131, Ermeni Diasporas\u0131\u2019yla diyalog kanallar\u0131n\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131, sivil toplum ili\u015fkilerinin geli\u015ftirilmesini engellemez.<br \/>\nEngellememelidir de.<br \/>\nE\u011fer engellerse, araba at\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcne konmu\u015f olur ki, bu da kimseye yarar sa\u011flamaz.<br \/>\nK\u00fcrs\u00fcye yakla\u015f\u0131yor:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cSayd\u0131m, konu\u015fman\u0131zda d\u00f6rt kere ge\u00e7ti soyk\u0131r\u0131m s\u00f6zc\u00fc\u011f\u00fc&#8230; Korkmuyor musunuz?\u201d<br \/>\nBen ona toplant\u0131n\u0131n bro\u015f\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc\u00a0 g\u00f6steriyorum. \u00dcst\u00fcne, \u00fc\u00e7 y\u0131l \u00f6nce Erivan\u2019daki Soyk\u0131r\u0131m An\u0131t\u0131\u2019na \u00fc\u00e7 sap beyaz karanfil koyarken \u00e7ekilmi\u015f foto\u011fraf\u0131m\u0131 basm\u0131\u015flar.<br \/>\nUzun ve g\u00fczel bir ak\u015famd\u0131.<br \/>\nYeni \u015feyler \u00f6\u011frendim ve hissettim.<br \/>\nSan\u0131yorum, k\u00f6kleri Anadolu\u2019nun her yan\u0131na uzanan Ermeni karde\u015flerim i\u00e7in de \u00f6yle oldu.<br \/>\n\u0130yi pazarlar!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Hasan Cemal<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"mailto:%20h.cemal@milliyet.com.tr\">h.cemal@milliyet.com.tr<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>03.04.2011 <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>http:\/\/www.kanalahaber.com\/cemal-pasanin-torunu-ne-diyecek-yazisi-16662.htm<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0130ki sivil polisle arka kap\u0131dan giriyorum. G\u00fcvenlik \u00f6nlemleri galiba biraz abart\u0131lm\u0131\u015f&#8230; Salon dolu. Yerde oturan gen\u00e7ler d\u0131\u015far\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kart\u0131l\u0131yor. \u0130tfaiye izin vermemi\u015f&#8230; Fark\u0131nday\u0131m, dikkatler \u00fcst\u00fcmde. \u201cCemal Pa\u015fa\u2019n\u0131n torunu ne diyecek?\u201d Kuliste vozurdayanlar olmu\u015f: \u201c1915\u2019te bizi kesenlerin torununu ne diye davet ettiniz?\u201d Kula\u011f\u0131ma e\u011filiyor: \u201cBizim de Kerin\u00e7siz\u2019lerimiz var.\u201d \u201cBizimki kodeste!\u201d Oturdu\u011fum yerden bak\u0131\u015flar\u0131, y\u00fcz ifadelerini izliyorum. 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