{"id":50575,"date":"2019-01-14T02:51:14","date_gmt":"2019-01-14T07:51:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=50575"},"modified":"2019-01-14T02:51:14","modified_gmt":"2019-01-14T07:51:14","slug":"turkiyede-yunanca-yer-adlari-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=50575","title":{"rendered":"T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Yunanca yer adlar\u0131 \u2013 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=50576\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-50576\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-50576\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Sevan-Nishanyan.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"750\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/01\/Sevan-Nishanyan.jpg 750w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/01\/Sevan-Nishanyan-360x202.jpg 360w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/01\/Sevan-Nishanyan-560x314.jpg 560w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/01\/Sevan-Nishanyan-260x146.jpg 260w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2019\/01\/Sevan-Nishanyan-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sevan Ni\u015fanyan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00dc\u00e7 d\u00f6rt g\u00fcn s\u00fcrecek bir dizinin ilki.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de 1453\u2019ten \u00f6nce Yunanca ad\u0131 kay\u0131tl\u0131 olup bug\u00fcn yerini az \u00e7ok kesinlikle tespit edebildi\u011fimiz yerle\u015fim birimi 900 kadar. Ben 886 sayd\u0131m. Hemen hepsi F\u0131rat nehrinin bat\u0131s\u0131nda ve kuzeyde Karadeniz k\u0131y\u0131lar\u0131ndad\u0131r. Do\u011fudaki bir avu\u00e7 yerin Eski Yunanca ad\u0131n\u0131 da dahil ettiysem, Yunan kaynaklar\u0131 Ermenice ve S\u00fcryaniceden daha zengin oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in elimizde bu yerlerin Helence yaz\u0131l\u0131 kayd\u0131 bulundu\u011fundand\u0131r. Yoksa \u015e\u0131rnak\u2019ta, Nusaybin\u2019de Yunan\u0131n ne i\u015fi var?<\/p>\n<p>Yer adlar\u0131n\u0131n alt limitini tayin etmek kolay de\u011fil. Mesela \u201c\u0130skele mevkii\u201d, \u201cHasangiller mahallesi\u201d, \u201cNemesis Tap\u0131na\u011f\u0131\u201d, \u201cYukar\u0131 Tarlalar\u201d yer ad\u0131 say\u0131l\u0131r m\u0131? Ben saymad\u0131m. Az \u00e7ok hukuki stat\u00fcs\u00fc olan ya da oran\u0131n yerlisi olmayanlar\u0131n da kullanaca\u011f\u0131 adlarla kendimi s\u0131n\u0131rlad\u0131m. Da\u011f, dere, tepe, \u0131rmak adlar\u0131n\u0131 dahil etmedim. \u00c7ok fazla g\u00f6zden ka\u00e7m\u0131\u015f olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 tahmin etmiyorum.<\/p>\n<p>Yerini tespit edemediklerimizin say\u0131s\u0131 daha azd\u0131r. \u00dc\u00e7te iki desek toplam 1500-1600 rakam\u0131n\u0131 buluruz. Bunlara F\u0131rat\u2019\u0131n do\u011fusunda fetih \u00f6ncesi kayda ge\u00e7en 300 k\u00fcsur Ermenice, 50 k\u00fcsur S\u00fcryanice, bir avu\u00e7 G\u00fcrc\u00fcce<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a>, bir avu\u00e7 Arap\u00e7a yer ad\u0131n\u0131 ekleyelim. Eldeki malzeme bu. Unuttu\u011fum ba\u015fka dil var m\u0131? Yok.<\/p>\n<p>Bu say\u0131lara neler dahil DE\u011e\u0130L onu da g\u00f6relim.<\/p>\n<p>Bir, yukar\u0131dakiler haricinde T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de halen kullan\u0131lan ya da 20. yy\u2019a dek kullan\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olan \u2013 muhafazakar tahminle \u2013 1200 dolay\u0131nda yer ad\u0131n\u0131n Rumca k\u00f6kenli oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyebiliyoruz. Efkeri (Evkeria), Yereg\u00f6m\u00fc (Hier\u00e1komi), Hortamya (Xortema), Hayrados (Xariades), Ayvasil (Ayios Vasilios), \u0130stolos (Stolos), Hoyran (Xoriani), Mavrucan (Mavridion), Manahor, Belkilise (Paleoklisia), Avlan (Aulon), \u0130stanoz (Stenos), Giregi (Kyriaki), Serkiz (Sergios) vesaire kolay. \u0130rdat\u0131, Hevekse, Durmanas, T\u00fcrbelinas, Holoz, Vekse, Vara, G\u00f6stesin, Arlasun, Azdavay, Kolay, Utay, Firistay, Abay, Zuday, \u0130zvay, Guray, Holay, S\u0131rvay, Bo\u011fay, Bolay, Ka\u011fay, \u00c7ontay, Ku\u00e7ay, Ho\u015falay, Do\u011fray, Duday, Daday, Varay, Coray, Somay, Samay<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a>\u00a0da \u015f\u00fcphesiz Rumca, ya da Rumca \u00fczerinden gelmi\u015f, ama \u00e7\u00f6zmesi zor. B\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcn fetih \u00f6ncesinden kalma adlar oldu\u011funu varsayabiliriz. Ancak elimizde bunu kan\u0131tlayacak belge yok. Yani 1453\u2019ten eski bir kaynakta bu yerlerin ad\u0131 ge\u00e7miyor. Yahut ge\u00e7iyor, biz ba\u011flant\u0131y\u0131 kuramad\u0131k.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki, 19. yy sonu ile 20. yy ba\u015f\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Rumlarla meskun olan 200\u2019e yak\u0131n k\u00f6y ve kasaban\u0131n o tarihteki Rumca ad\u0131n\u0131 biliyoruz. Bunlar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131 \u00a0T\u00fcrk\u00e7eden adaptedir (Yass\u0131\u00f6ren &gt; Diasorna, Kumba\u011f\u0131 &gt; Kumb\u00e1on, S\u00f6ke &gt; Sokia)<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a>. Yabanc\u0131 adlar\u0131 kendi telaffuzuna uydurup millile\u015ftirmek T\u00fcrklere has bir spor de\u011fil. Bir k\u0131sm\u0131 dah eski olan T\u00fcrk\u00e7e ad\u0131n \u00e7evirisidir (Alt\u0131nta\u015f &gt; Xrysolithos, Arnavutk\u00f6y &gt; Arvanitoxorio, Ayval\u0131k &gt; Kidonies<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a>, I\u015f\u0131klar &gt; Sxolari<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a>, B\u00fcy\u00fck \u00c7ekmece &gt; Mega Zeugma). Bu e\u011filimin \u00f6zellikle 1920\u2019lere do\u011fru \u015fiddetlendi\u011fi, mesela 1880\u2019lerin Rumca belgesinde T\u00fcrk\u00e7e olan ad\u0131n k\u0131rk y\u0131l sonra Helenle\u015fti\u011fi g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Kalanlar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131 besbelli yeni adland\u0131rma olsa gerek. Belki 100 kadar\u0131 fetih \u00f6ncesinden kalm\u0131\u015f olabilir. Bunun da belgesi yok. Belki kilise ar\u015fivlerinin derin yerinde bir \u015feyler vard\u0131r, ama kim u\u011fra\u015facak?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ya\u015fama tutunanlar<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Fetih \u00f6ncesinden kalma 900 ad\u0131n 280 kadar\u0131 halen kullan\u0131mdad\u0131r. Ba\u015fta \u015fanl\u0131 ba\u015fkentimiz Ankara, sonra \u0130zmir, Bursa, Adana, Konya, K\u00fctahya, Malatya, Edirne, Antalya, K\u00fctahya, Bolu, \u00c7ank\u0131r\u0131, Sinop, Samsun, Giresun, Trabzon, Rize ilk akla gelenler. Di\u011ferleri akla gelmez; iyi kamufle edildiklerinden 20. yy\u2019\u0131n k\u00fclt\u00fcrel katliamlar\u0131ndan sa\u011f kurtulabilmi\u015fler: K\u0131reli (&lt; Karallia), E\u011fribasan (&lt; Ariass\u00f3n), Haruniye (&lt; Eiren\u00eda), Minare (&lt; Pinara), Bozburun (&lt;Poseid\u00f3nio, \u00fc\u00e7 tane!), Emirda\u011f (&lt; Am\u00f3rion), So\u011fanl\u0131 (&lt; Soand\u00f3s), \u0130bribey (&lt; \u00c1proi), Endi\u015fe (&lt; Aphrodisi\u00e1), Evre\u015fe (&lt; ba\u015fka Aphrodisi\u00e1), Datbey (&lt; Dapay &lt; ta Hypaipa), Sakarba\u015f\u0131 (&lt; Sykora) \u2026 Bizim Torbal\u0131 da asl\u0131nda Metr\u00f3polis olmal\u0131 diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Vurguyu ikinci heceye koyup M\u0131tr\u00f3bol\u0131 deyin hak verirsiniz. Hem \u201ctorba\u201d ne demek?<\/p>\n<p>350 kadar yer ad\u0131 o kadar \u015fansl\u0131 olmam\u0131\u015f. 20. yy\u2019a dek kullan\u0131mda kalm\u0131\u015flar, cumhuriyet devrinde tarihe kar\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015flar. Geriye kalan 270 kadar yer fetihten sonra iz b\u0131rakmadan silinmi\u015f. Kotyaion K\u00fctahya olmu\u015f, ama onunla e\u015f konumdaki Dorylaion, 1200\u2019lere dek ad\u0131 varken, ertesi y\u00fczy\u0131lda Eski\u015fehir olup ads\u0131zlara kar\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f. Neden? Bilmiyorum. Bir\u00e7ok yerde yerle\u015fim T\u00fcrk\u00e7e ad alsa da eski isim da\u011f, dere, ova ya da kale ad\u0131nda korunmu\u015f. Bunlar\u0131 belgelemek \u00e7ok zor. \u00c7o\u011funu yaz\u0131l\u0131 kaynaklarda bulmak imkans\u0131z (21. yy T\u00fcrkiye\u2019si, kayda de\u011fer yaz\u0131l\u0131 \u00fcretim a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan Ta\u015f Devrinden biraz hallice maalesef). Yerinde incelemek laz\u0131m; o da her il\u00e7ede bir hafta gibi insan\u00fcst\u00fc bir tempo da tuttursan 20 sene eder. Olmaz.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130lgin\u00e7 bir detay dikkatimi \u00e7ekti, ona da de\u011fineyim, T\u00fcrk\u00e7ele\u015ftirmenin sosyolojisi a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan belki bir ipucu verir. Bir\u00e7ok yerde eski yerle\u015fimin resmi ve oturakl\u0131 ad\u0131 yerine muhtemelen Rum\u2019un avam kesiminin kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00fcndelik isimler T\u00fcrk\u00e7ede benimsenmi\u015f. En me\u015fhuru tabii Kostantin kenti: ancak sokaktaki cahil Rum\u2019un isimden sayaca\u011f\u0131 Stinboli (\u201c\u015fehir\u201d), koskoca \u015fehrin ad\u0131 olarak benimsenmi\u015f. Alikarnaso (Halikarnass\u00f3s) ad\u0131 15. yy\u2019a dek canl\u0131 oldu\u011fu halde, o yerin ad\u0131 P\u00e9trion (\u201cta\u015fl\u0131k, ta\u015f oca\u011f\u0131\u201d) olmu\u015f, \u015fimdi Bodrum. \u00dc\u00e7 bin y\u0131ll\u0131k Miletos, Pal\u00e1ti (\u201csaray\u201d) &gt; Balat diye s\u0131radanla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Mut\u2019taki Adrass\u00f3s kimliksiz bir Pale\u00f3poli\u2019ye (\u201ceski \u015fehir\u201d) indirgenmi\u015f, Balabolu bi\u00e7iminde g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze gelmi\u015f. Anadolu\u2019nun en eski kutsal yerlerinden biri olan Pessin\u00fas, Pali\u00e1 (\u201ceskiler, eski \u015feyler\u201d) diye harcanm\u0131\u015f, T\u00fcrk\u00e7esi kal\u0131n l ile Balahisar olmu\u015f.<\/p>\n<p>Bu adlarda ben bir tav\u0131r g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Sanki eski k\u00fclt\u00fcrden s\u0131k\u0131lm\u0131\u015flar. Ya da o k\u00fclt\u00fcre omuz silken bir halk s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131 gelmi\u015f, cehaletiyle gurur duymu\u015f, eski adlar\u0131n muhaf\u0131z\u0131 olan z\u00fcmrelere \u2013 kiliseye, resmi b\u00fcrokrasiye, okumu\u015f kesime \u2013 s\u0131rt\u0131n\u0131 d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015f. \u201cNolucak, T\u00fcrkse T\u00fcrk, bir de onu deneyelim\u201d demi\u015f de olabilirler pekala.<\/p>\n<p>Kendilerine \u201cAnadolu kaplanlar\u0131\u201d gibi bir isim bulmu\u015flar m\u0131d\u0131r acep?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0G\u00fcrc\u00fcce zor konu. 9. yy\u2019dan itibaren tutuldu\u011fu anla\u015f\u0131lan G\u00fcrc\u00fc vekayinamelerinde baz\u0131 yer adlar\u0131 ge\u00e7iyor. Lakin G\u00fcrc\u00fc vekayinamelerinin eldeki tek g\u00fcvenilir n\u00fcshas\u0131 13. yy\u2019da yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f Ermenice bir \u00e7eviri. \u015eimdi bu isimler G\u00fcrc\u00fcce mi, Ermenice mi?<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a>\u00a0Ay\u2019l\u0131 adlar\u0131n hepsi Kastamonu-Sinop-Samsun-Amasya b\u00f6lgesinden. Yap\u0131 ve anlama dair bir fikrim yok.<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftnref3\">[3]<\/a>\u00a0Ala\u00e7at\u0131 ad\u0131n\u0131n kayna\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilmiyorum. Rumca Alats\u00e1ta esasen T\u00fcrk\u00e7e Alaca At m\u0131d\u0131r? Sanmam. Piri Reis haritas\u0131ndaki bir tek yamuk kay\u0131ttan sonu\u00e7 \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lamaz.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftnref4\">[4]<\/a>\u00a0Ayval\u0131k ad\u0131n\u0131n ayva ile ilgili oldu\u011funu sanm\u0131yorum. O y\u00f6renin eski ad\u0131 Eol\u00eda, idari birimin tamlama hali de Eoliki\u2019dir. Ayval\u0131k bu isimden uyarlanm\u0131\u015f olmal\u0131. (\u201cNereden geliyorsun? Eolik nahiyesinden.\u201d) Rumca \u00e7eviri\u00a0<em>Kidonia<\/em>\u00a0(\u201cayva\u201d) veya\u00a0<em>Kidonies<\/em>\u00a0(\u201cayvalar\u201d) ancak 19. yy\u2019da belirir.<a href=\"https:\/\/hyetert.org\/Users\/pc\/Documents\/Yunanca%20yer%20adlar%C4%B1.docx#_ftnref5\">[5]<\/a>\u00a0T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de otuzu a\u015fk\u0131n \u00f6rne\u011fi olan I\u015f\u0131klar ad\u0131 esasen \u2018a\u015f\u0131klar\u2019, yani dervi\u015fler demektir. Eski yaz\u0131da daima ayn harfiyle yaz\u0131l\u0131r. Yunanca \u03a3\u03c7\u03bf\u03bb\u03ac\u03c1\u03bf\u03b9 bunun \u00e7evirisi olsa gerek. \u0130ngilizce\u00a0<em>scholar<\/em>esasen \u201cbo\u015f gezen\u201d anlam\u0131na gelir.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/nisanyan1.blogspot.com\/2019\/01\/turkiyede-yunanca-yer-adlar-1.html\"><strong><em>http:\/\/nisanyan1.blogspot.com\/2019\/01\/turkiyede-yunanca-yer-adlar-1.html<\/em><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sevan Ni\u015fanyan \u00dc\u00e7 d\u00f6rt g\u00fcn s\u00fcrecek bir dizinin ilki. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de 1453\u2019ten \u00f6nce Yunanca ad\u0131 kay\u0131tl\u0131 olup bug\u00fcn yerini az \u00e7ok kesinlikle tespit edebildi\u011fimiz yerle\u015fim birimi 900 kadar. Ben 886 sayd\u0131m. Hemen hepsi F\u0131rat nehrinin bat\u0131s\u0131nda ve kuzeyde Karadeniz k\u0131y\u0131lar\u0131ndad\u0131r. Do\u011fudaki bir avu\u00e7 yerin Eski Yunanca ad\u0131n\u0131 da dahil ettiysem, Yunan kaynaklar\u0131 Ermenice ve S\u00fcryaniceden daha [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":50577,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,70],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50575","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-haberler","category-makaleler"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Yunanca yer adlar\u0131 \u2013 1 - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=50575\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Yunanca yer adlar\u0131 \u2013 1 - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Sevan Ni\u015fanyan \u00dc\u00e7 d\u00f6rt g\u00fcn s\u00fcrecek bir dizinin ilki. 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