{"id":49610,"date":"2018-11-15T02:28:02","date_gmt":"2018-11-15T07:28:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=49610"},"modified":"2018-11-15T02:28:02","modified_gmt":"2018-11-15T07:28:02","slug":"ermenistana-tatile-gidilir-mi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=49610","title":{"rendered":"Ermenistan’a Tatile Gidilir Mi?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Veli Yal\u00e7\u0131n
\n<\/strong>\u00a0\u201cT\u00fcrklerle Ermeniler aras\u0131nda bir diyalog, bir normalle\u015fme\u00a0isteniyorsa bu ancak konu\u015fmayla olur. Susarak olmaz,\u00a0engellenerek olmaz. \u201c
\nHrank Dink
\n<\/em><\/strong>Sokakta insanlar\u0131 \u00e7evirip s\u0131n\u0131r kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 say\u0131n desek, eminin \u00e7o\u011fumuzun akl\u0131na Ermenistan\u2019\u0131 saymak gelmez. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n en uzak k\u00f6\u015fesindeki \u00fclkeleri sayar\u0131z da yan\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131zdaki kom\u015fumuzu g\u00f6rmezlikten geliriz. Biz T\u00fcrklerin b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011funun d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce kodlar\u0131nda bir Ermeni ve Ermenistan korkusu var.
\nS\u0131n\u0131r kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131zla hemen hi\u00e7 ilgilenmiyoruz. Onlarla ilgili bir \u015fey bilmiyor, g\u00f6rm\u00fcyor ve duymuyoruz. \u0130ran, Irak, Suriye, Bulgaristan, Yunanistan, Ermenistan. Sadece kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z de\u011fil b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnyaya \u00f6yle bak\u0131yoruz.\u00a0 \u00d6nce yak\u0131n kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z, sonra d\u00fcnya bize kar\u015f\u0131 diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyoruz.
\nOysa \u00f6n yarg\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6nce insana, sonra do\u011faya nas\u0131l d\u00fc\u015fman bir duygu ve zararl\u0131 oldu\u011funu anlamam\u0131z i\u00e7in i\u00e7inde ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z kabu\u011fun d\u0131\u015f\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kmam\u0131z gerekiyor.\u00a0 Maalesef en hafif deyimle, bu hastal\u0131kl\u0131 yakla\u015f\u0131m hala devam ediyor. \u0130\u00e7inde ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z olumsuz ko\u015fullara bak\u0131nca uzunca bir s\u00fcrede devam edece\u011fe benziyor. Oysa bizim iyiden,\u00a0 g\u00fczelden,\u00a0 bar\u0131\u015ftan, \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckten, insanca bir ya\u015famdan yana olanlar\u0131n, yani \u201cy\u00e2rin yana\u011f\u0131ndan gayri her \u015feyde ortak olmak\u201d isteyenlerin, \u201cya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 cehennemi cennete \u00e7evirmeye talip\u201d h\u00fclyalar\u0131m\u0131z,\u00a0 d\u00fcnyan\u0131n b\u00fct\u00fcn pisli\u011fine ra\u011fmen ge\u00e7erlili\u011fini koruyor. Z\u00fclf\u00fc Livaneli\u2019nin bir \u015fark\u0131s\u0131nda s\u00f6yledi\u011fi gibi \u201cD\u00fcnyay\u0131 g\u00fczellikler kurtaracak \/ Bir insan\u0131 sevmekle ba\u015flayacak her \u015fey\u201d.
\nYukar\u0131da yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131m kimi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelere kat\u0131lmayabilirsiniz. Bir gezi yaz\u0131s\u0131 i\u00e7in gereksiz ya da anlams\u0131z da bulabilirsiniz. Sizi anlayabilirim, ama size hak veremem. Futbol i\u00e7in s\u00f6ylenen g\u00fczel bir s\u00f6z, gezi yaz\u0131lar\u0131 i\u00e7inde ge\u00e7erli olmal\u0131d\u0131r. Gezi yaz\u0131s\u0131 asla sadece gezi yaz\u0131s\u0131 de\u011fildir \/ olmamal\u0131d\u0131r da.
\n\u00d6zelde Erivan\u2019a genelde Ermenistan\u2019a gitmeye karar verdi\u011fimde, birlikte gitmeyi teklif etti\u011fim yol arkada\u015f\u0131m biraz teredd\u00fct ya\u015fad\u0131 ve teklifime s\u0131cak yakla\u015fmad\u0131. Birlikte gelmek isteyen ba\u015fkalar\u0131 da oldu, ama i\u015f ciddiye binince kimseden ses \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131. \u0130ki \u00fclke aras\u0131ndaki siyasi gerginlikten dolay\u0131 gitme diyenler de oldu. G\u00f6recek ba\u015fka yer mi bulamad\u0131n diyenler de. T\u0131pk\u0131 \u0130ran ve Irak K\u00fcrdistan\u2019\u0131na \u00a0giderken kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m tepkilerin benzeriyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131m. D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce d\u00fcnyamda \u201cd\u00fc\u015fman halk\u201d kavram\u0131 bulunmuyor. D\u00fcnya halklar\u0131n\u0131 olu\u015fturan her ulusu (\u00fclkesi olsun ya da olmas\u0131n) seviyorum. Ben d\u00fcnyaya ezen\/ezilen \u2013 s\u00f6m\u00fcren\/s\u00f6m\u00fcr\u00fclen perspektifinden bak\u0131yorum. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndaki bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n ge\u00e7erlili\u011fine inanm\u0131yorum. \u00a0\u00a0Hele i\u00e7ine ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z toplumun bu konudaki \u00f6n yarg\u0131lar\u0131yla hesapla\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenlerdenim.
\nT\u00fcrkiye ile Ermenistan aras\u0131nda diplomatik ili\u015fki bulunmad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan dolay\u0131, direk s\u0131n\u0131rdan giri\u015f\u00a0 olana\u011f\u0131 bulunmuyor. I\u011fd\u0131r\u2019a ba\u011fl\u0131 Alican ve Kars\u2019a ba\u011fl\u0131 Akyaka s\u0131n\u0131r kap\u0131lar\u0131 kapal\u0131 oldu\u011fundan karadan ge\u00e7i\u015f m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil. Bu nedenle Ermenistan\u2019a G\u00fcrcistan ya da \u0130ran \u00fczerinden ge\u00e7ebilirsiniz. Ermenistan\u2019a giri\u015f yapmak i\u00e7in vize alman\u0131z gerekiyor. \u0130ki \u00fclke aras\u0131nda diplomatik ili\u015fki olmay\u0131nca, diplomatik temsilcikler de yok haliyle. Vizeyi ya ikinci bir \u00fclkede bulunan ilgili devletin b\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7ili\u011fi veya konsoloslu\u011fundan ya da s\u0131n\u0131r kap\u0131s\u0131nda almal\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. Bu nedenle Ermenistan\u2019a gitmek isterseniz dolayl\u0131 olarak \u0130ran veya G\u00fcrcistan\u2019\u0131 kullanman\u0131z gerekiyor.
\nUzun zamand\u0131r Ermenistan\u2019a gitmek hayalimdi. Ye\u015fil pasaportlu olunca, internet d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda vizeye ba\u015fvuru \u015fans\u0131m yoktu. Ba\u015fvurum kabul edilmedi. Neden kabul edilmedi\u011fi a\u00e7\u0131klanm\u0131yor, \u201cret\u201d deniliyor o kadar. Ye\u015fili bir kenara koydum, normal pasaporta ba\u015fvurdum. Sosyal medyadan \u201csak\u0131n gitme, ne i\u015fin var orada\u201d diyenler mi, \u201csak\u0131n T\u00fcrk oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleme\u201d diyenler mi ya da s\u0131n\u0131rda ye\u015fil pasaportun oldu\u011fu ortaya \u00e7\u0131kar, vize alamazs\u0131n\u201d diyenler mi g\u0131rla gitti. Her \u015feye kulaklar\u0131m\u0131 t\u0131kad\u0131m ve yola \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131m. Gitmeden sosyal medyadan bir arkada\u015f Erivan\u2019dan birisini \u00f6nerdi. Facebook\u2019ta arkada\u015f olduk. O T\u00fcrk\u00e7e ben Ermenice bilmiyoruz. Bende \u0130ngilizce de birka\u00e7 c\u00fcmle, hepsi o kadar. \u00d6nce Facebook \u00fczerinden konu\u015ftuk. Yol uzunmu\u015f, yorucuymu\u015f hepsi kabul\u00fcm oldu. Bir gece sabaha kar\u015f\u0131 kendimi Ermenistan s\u0131n\u0131r kap\u0131s\u0131nda buldum. Vizeyi bir dakikada ald\u0131m. Pasaport polisi pasaportun b\u00fct\u00fcn sayfalar\u0131n\u0131 \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011fa tuttu, \u201cniye geldin\u201d,\u00a0 dedi. \u201cTurist\u201d, dedim, bana bakt\u0131 ve pasaporta damgay\u0131 vurdu. \u0130\u00e7eri girdim, inanam\u0131yorum. Ermenistan\u2019day\u0131m, g\u00fcl\u00fcyorum kendi kendime. \u015eimdiye kadar 24 \u00fclkeden hi\u00e7 birinde bu duyguyu ya\u015famad\u0131m. Beni Erivan g\u00f6t\u00fcrecek minib\u00fcse h\u0131zl\u0131ca bindim, \u00e7ok ama \u00e7ok mutluydum.
\nErmenistan bekledi\u011fimden de g\u00fczel bir \u00fclke gerek insanlar\u0131 gerekse co\u011frafyas\u0131yla. G\u00fczel insanlar tan\u0131d\u0131m. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den geldi\u011fimi duyunca boynuma sar\u0131l\u0131p yanaklar\u0131m\u0131 \u00f6penler mi, evinde misafir etmek isteyenler mi, arabas\u0131yla sokak sokak dola\u015f\u0131p otele kadar beni b\u0131rakanlar m\u0131, bir sorunla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015f\u0131rsan ara geleyim deyip telefon ve ad\u0131n\u0131 verenler mi, i\u015fini g\u00fcc\u00fcn\u00fc b\u0131rak\u0131p gezilecek yerleri benimle gezenler mi daha neler neler\u2026 Her toplumun iyisi ve k\u00f6t\u00fcs\u00fc vard\u0131r. Erivan\u2019da, G\u00fcmr\u00fc\u2019de ve di\u011fer \u015fehirlerde bana iyi ve g\u00fczel insanlar denk geldi. Hepsini \u00e7ok sevdim, oldum olas\u0131 severdim zaten.
\nBize \u00e7ok yak\u0131n ama \u00e7ok uzak kom\u015fu, ke\u015fke \u00e7ok daha yak\u0131n olsayd\u0131k. Ac\u0131lar\u0131 \u00e7o\u011faltmak yerine payla\u015farak azaltmak olmal\u0131 \u00e7abam\u0131z. Erivan ve G\u00fcmr\u00fc s\u0131n\u0131r kap\u0131lar\u0131 \u015farts\u0131z ve ko\u015fulsuz a\u00e7\u0131lmal\u0131d\u0131r. B\u00fct\u00fcn kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131zla dost olmal\u0131y\u0131z.
\nErmenistan\u2019a gidilir mi? Seve seve gidilir.
\nKap\u0131dan \u00e7\u0131kmadan \u00f6nce \u00f6n yarg\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6p sepetine at\u0131n.<\/p>\n

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  1. Not: \u00a0\u00d6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki hafta Ermenistan\u2019a gitmek isteyenler ya da d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnenler i\u00e7in k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir rehber \u00f6nerece\u011fim.<\/em><\/li>\n
  2. Ayn\u0131 internet sitesindeki gazetede kom\u015fuluk yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m Serhan Seyhan\u2019\u0131 tan\u0131mam ve hi\u00e7 de kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fmad\u0131m. Say\u0131n Seyhan\u2019\u0131n\u00a0 12 Kas\u0131m 2018 tarihli \u201cLa \u0130lahe \u0130llalah Demeyi Su\u00e7 Kabul Edenler!!!\u201d yaz\u0131s\u0131 kimi do\u011fru ve yanl\u0131\u015flar\u0131n ayn\u0131 boh\u00e7aya konuldu\u011fu yamal\u0131 boh\u00e7a izlenimi veriyor. Bende bu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceyi uyand\u0131rd\u0131. Bu nedenle yaz\u0131n\u0131n ana fikrine kat\u0131lmam s\u00f6z konusu de\u011fil.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    Bu notu yazarken amac\u0131m bir tart\u0131\u015fma ba\u015flatmak de\u011fil, ama \u00fclke ile ilgili genel yarg\u0131lar verirken daha dikkatli olmak ve s\u00f6zc\u00fckleri de\u011fil c\u00fcmleleri kurarken kimseye haks\u0131zl\u0131k etmemek gerekir. Serhan Seyhan \u201cdemokrasi ve d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc\u201d konusunda s\u00f6z s\u00f6ylerken ve kesin h\u00fck\u00fcmde bulunurken kimseye de haks\u0131zl\u0131k etmemesini isterim.<\/em><\/p>\n

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    Veli Yal\u00e7\u0131n \u00a0\u201cT\u00fcrklerle Ermeniler aras\u0131nda bir diyalog, bir normalle\u015fme\u00a0isteniyorsa bu ancak konu\u015fmayla olur. Susarak olmaz,\u00a0engellenerek olmaz. \u201c Hrank Dink Sokakta insanlar\u0131 \u00e7evirip s\u0131n\u0131r kom\u015fular\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 say\u0131n desek, eminin \u00e7o\u011fumuzun akl\u0131na Ermenistan\u2019\u0131 saymak gelmez. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n en uzak k\u00f6\u015fesindeki \u00fclkeleri sayar\u0131z da yan\u0131 ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131zdaki kom\u015fumuzu g\u00f6rmezlikten geliriz. Biz T\u00fcrklerin b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011funun d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce kodlar\u0131nda bir Ermeni ve Ermenistan korkusu […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":49612,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49610","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-haberler"],"yoast_head":"\nErmenistan'a Tatile Gidilir Mi? - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=49610\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ermenistan'a Tatile Gidilir Mi? - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Veli Yal\u00e7\u0131n \u00a0\u201cT\u00fcrklerle Ermeniler aras\u0131nda bir diyalog, bir normalle\u015fme\u00a0isteniyorsa bu ancak konu\u015fmayla olur. 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