{"id":42324,"date":"2016-10-18T03:04:22","date_gmt":"2016-10-18T08:04:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=42324"},"modified":"2016-10-18T03:04:22","modified_gmt":"2016-10-18T08:04:22","slug":"turkiyedeki-uc-farkli-ermeni-kimligi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=42324","title":{"rendered":"T\u00fcrkiye’deki \u00fc\u00e7 farkl\u0131 Ermeni kimli\u011fi"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"hrag-papazian\"<\/a>Varduhi Balyan<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n

7-8 Ekim’de Hrant Dink Vakf\u0131 ve Hamazkayin ortakl\u0131\u011f\u0131yla d\u00fczenlenen ’21. y\u00fczy\u0131lda Ermeni Kimli\u011fine Ele\u015ftirel Yakla\u015f\u0131mlar: K\u0131r\u0131lganl\u0131k, Diren\u00e7 ve D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm’ ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 konferansa doktora \u00f6\u011frencisi Hrag Papazian, ‘T\u00fcrkiye’de Ermeniler ve \u00d6teki Ermeniler’ ba\u015fl\u0131kl\u0131 bir sunum yapt\u0131. Doktora tezi i\u00e7in bir s\u00fcredir T\u00fcrkiye’de kalan Papazian’la tezinde ele ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 konuyla ilgilenmesine neden olan ki\u015fisel hikayesini ve konu ile ilgili izlenimlerini konu\u015ftuk.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Hayat hikayeniz ve T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermeniler konusunda nas\u0131l \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/h4>\n

1991’de Beyrut’ta do\u011fdum. Ermeni lisesinde okudum. L\u00fcbnan Amerikan \u00dcniversitesi’nin \u0130leti\u015fim Fak\u00fcltesi’nde e\u011fitimimi tamamlad\u0131ktan sonra Oxford \u00dcniversitesi’nde Sosyal Antropoloji \u00fczerine y\u00fcksek lisans yapt\u0131m. Antropolojiye ge\u00e7i\u015f yapmam\u0131n en temmel nedeni Ermeni olmamd\u0131. Okuldan \u00f6nce kapal\u0131 bir Ermeni \u00e7evresi i\u00e7erisindeydim, Ermeni olmayan tek bir arkada\u015f\u0131m bile yoktu. \u00dcniveristede art\u0131k kendi kimli\u011fim hakk\u0131nda sorular sormaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. O zamana kadar gettola\u015fm\u0131\u015f bir \u00e7evrede b\u00fcy\u00fcy\u00fcp Ermeni oldu\u011fumu, Ermenistan’\u0131n benim vatan\u0131m oldu\u011funu \u00f6\u011frenmi\u015ftim. Demek ki \u00e7evre hakk\u0131nda b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerim farkl\u0131yd\u0131. Etraf\u0131mdaki insanlar\u0131n kimlikleri benimkinden farkl\u0131yd\u0131, kendi Ermeni kimli\u011fimden uzakt\u0131. Kendi kimli\u011fimle ilgili sorular ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Her \u015feyi sorgulayan biri oldu\u011fum i\u00e7in o zamana kadar bana sunulanlar\u0131 oldu\u011fu gibi kabul edip hayat\u0131ma devam edemedim ve kendi kendime \u201cNeden benim vatan\u0131m Ermenistan veya atalar\u0131m\u0131n geldi\u011fi Bat\u0131 Ermenistan? Neden do\u011fdu\u011fum yer benim vatan\u0131m de\u011fil? Bunlar do\u011fal m\u0131 de\u011fil mi?\u201d gibi sorular sormaya ba\u015flad\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Ulusal d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelere kap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m zaman \u201cAcaba beynim y\u0131kanm\u0131\u015f m\u0131?\u201d diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, bunlar bir yerden sonra insan\u0131 y\u0131pratmaya ba\u015fl\u0131yor. Ulus, k\u00fclt\u00fcr, kimlik gibi kavramlar\u0131 sorgulamaya ba\u015flad\u0131m, do\u011fal m\u0131 yoksa sosyal \u00e7evremiz taraf\u0131ndan m\u0131 yarat\u0131ld\u0131? \u00d6te yandan da L\u00fcbnan’da ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m e\u011fitim daha \u00e7ok teknik e\u011fitimdi ve e\u011fitimin teorik k\u0131sm\u0131 zay\u0131f kalm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu iki neden de beni sosyal antropolojiye y\u00f6neltti ve bu alanda kimlikle ilgili sorular\u0131m\u0131n cevab\u0131n\u0131 bulurum diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm, yan\u0131lmad\u0131m da. \u0130stanbullu Ermenilerle ilk konta\u011f\u0131m\u0131 da o zamanlar kurdum. Y\u00fcksek lisans tezimi \u0130stanbul’daki Ermeni toplumu, ba\u015fka bir deyi\u015fle H\u0131ristiyan Ermeniler \u00fczerine yazmaya karar verdim. Buradaki Ermeni toplumu, d\u0131\u015far\u0131dan \u00e7ok \u00e7ekici geliyordu. 2013-2014’ten bahsediyoruz. Ondan alt\u0131 y\u0131l \u00f6nce Hrant Dink cinayeti ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmi\u015fti, sonra Sevag Bal\u0131k\u00e7\u0131 \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc, Marisa K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck cinayeti… \u00d6te yandan da toplumda bir hareketlenme vard\u0131, Agos, Hrant Dink Vakf\u0131, Nor Zartonk gibi olu\u015fumlar, Ermeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 anmalar\u0131 vesaire… Ayn\u0131 \u00fcniversitede doktora yapmaya ba\u015flad\u0131m ve bu sefer daha geni\u015f bir konuyu, T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermenileri \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak i\u00e7in T\u00fcrkiye’ye geldim.<\/p>\n

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T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Ermenileri \u00fc\u00e7 gruba ay\u0131r\u0131yorsunuz. Bunu anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/h4>\n

T\u00fcrkiye’deki Ermenileri \u00fc\u00e7 gruba ay\u0131r\u0131yorum. Elbette bunlar\u0131n alt gruplar\u0131 da var. \u0130lki T\u00fcrkiye’de \u00f6zellikle de \u0130stanbul’da ya\u015fayan geleneksel Ermeni toplumu veya H\u0131ristiyan Ermeniler. T\u00fcrkiye’de dini az\u0131nl\u0131klar var, Lozan antla\u015fmas\u0131na g\u00f6re T\u00fcrkiye’de ya\u015fayan dini az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131 az\u0131nl\u0131k olarak kabul ediliyor. Ermeni n\u00fcfusu ile ilgili rakamlar da H\u0131ristiyan olarak kay\u0131tl\u0131 olan Ermenilerle ilgili. O y\u00fczden bu gruba H\u0131ristiyan Ermeniler diyorum, yani resm\u00ee olarak devlet taraf\u0131ndan kabul edilen Ermeniler. \u0130kinci grup \u00f6zellikle Ermenistan’\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan sonra T\u00fcrkiye’ye, daha do\u011frusu \u0130stanbul’a \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya gelen ve \u00e7o\u011funlukla ka\u00e7ak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan Ermeniler veya g\u00f6\u00e7men Ermeniler. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fcs\u00fc ise M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler. Bu gruba\u00a0 ‘Ermeniyim’ diyen ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olan, ya da en az\u0131ndan kimlikte M\u00fcsl\u00fcman yazanlar\u0131 dahil ediyorum.\u201d<\/p>\n

Bu gruplar i\u00e7in Ermeni olmak ne anlam ifade ediyor?<\/h4>\n

Farkl\u0131 anlamlara geldi\u011fi a\u015fikar. Her bir grup i\u00e7in Ermeni olmak farkl\u0131 anlam ta\u015f\u0131yor. H\u0131ristiyan Ermeniler i\u00e7in Ermeni olman\u0131n en \u00f6nemli fakt\u00f6r\u00fc H\u0131ristiyan olmak, Ermeni kilisesine \u00fcye olmakt\u0131r. Bu alg\u0131 her yerde mevcut. Fakat burada Lozan’\u0131n da etkisi var. 1950’lere ait bir pasaportta ‘Din-Ermeni’ yaz\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ilk g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde \u00e7ok \u015fa\u015f\u0131rm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Bunun devlet kay\u0131tlar\u0131na bile yans\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bilmiyordum. H\u0131ristiyan Ermeni de de\u011fil, din hanesinde do\u011frudan Ermeni yaz\u0131yordu. Pratikte de \u00f6yle. Mesela g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde H\u0131ristiyan Ermeni olmayan, Ermeni okuluna kay\u0131t yapt\u0131ram\u0131yor. Zira okullar da H\u0131ristiyan Ermenilere ba\u011fl\u0131. Ermeni okullar\u0131 kiliselere ba\u011fl\u0131.<\/p>\n

Ermenistan’dan gelen gruplar i\u00e7in Ermeni kimli\u011finin en \u00f6nemli s\u00fctunlar\u0131ndan biri Ermenistan. Bu noktada geleneksel Ermeni toplumu ile yollar ayr\u0131\u015f\u0131yor ve bu iki grubun birbirlerinin Ermenili\u011fini sorgulamas\u0131na yol a\u00e7\u0131yor. Bir de Ermenistan’dan buraya gelenler i\u00e7in ahlak\u00ee de\u011ferler var ve onlara g\u00f6re ger\u00e7ek Ermeni, Ermenilerin tabiriyle ‘Garkin Hay’, bu de\u011ferlere sahip \u00e7\u0131kmal\u0131. Sahip \u00e7\u0131kamayanlar\u0131n Ermenili\u011fini sorgulamaya ba\u015fl\u0131yorlar. Mesela konu\u015ftu\u011fum Ermenistanl\u0131lardan biri bana \u015f\u00f6yle demi\u015fti: \u201cYa\u015fl\u0131 anne babalar\u0131na bile bakmay\u0131p onlar\u0131 huzur evlerine yerle\u015ftiriyorlar.\u201d Bununla, T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermenilerin Ermenilikten ne kadar uzakla\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 vurguluyor.<\/p>\n

M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler, di\u011fer iki gruptan farkl\u0131 olarak Ermeni kimli\u011fini \u015fekillendirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan devletin veya dini kurumlar\u0131n etkisi alt\u0131nda olmadan Ermeni olarak ya\u015famaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Bu grup i\u00e7in Ermeni olmak daha \u00e7ok retrospektif (geriye d\u00f6n\u00fck) bir s\u00fcre\u00e7. \u00d6rne\u011fin Mehmet\u2019in k\u0131z arkada\u015f\u0131, K\u00fcrt ortamda b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in Mehmet\u2019in K\u00fcrt oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi\u011finde onun cevab\u0131 \u015fu oluyor: \u201cHay\u0131r, ben Ermeni\u2019yim. Dedemin ismi Mgrditch\u2019ti, onun babas\u0131n\u0131n ismi ise Kevork. Dinimizi de\u011fi\u015ftirmi\u015f olabiliriz fakat bu isimler de\u011fi\u015fmedik\u00e7e ben Ermeni kalaca\u011f\u0131m. Irk\u0131m Ermeni.\u201d<\/p>\n

Bu \u00fc\u00e7 grup aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkileri a\u00e7ar m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?<\/h4>\n

Ermenistan’dan gelenler ve genellikle kad\u0131nlar, T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermenilerin evlerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla onlar\u0131n ili\u015fkisi s\u0131n\u0131fsal ba\u011flamda kuruluyor. Bu, iki grubun da birbirlerine yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde belirliyor. T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermenilerde Ermenistan’dan gelenlere kar\u015f\u0131 bir g\u00fcvensizlik de s\u00f6z konusu. Ya\u015fanan h\u0131rs\u0131zl\u0131k olaylar\u0131nda bile genelleme yap\u0131l\u0131yor. Bir de \u00fcstten bakma durumu s\u00f6z konusu. Ermenistanl\u0131lar\u0131 k\u00f6yl\u00fc, kaba olarak g\u00f6rme ger\u00e7e\u011fi de var. Bu sefer de T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermeniler Ermenistanl\u0131lar\u0131 kendi ahlak\u00ee de\u011ferlerine ait olmayan bir kesim olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n

Ermenistanl\u0131 Ermeniler ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler aras\u0131nda \u00e7ok az ileti\u015fim var. M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermenilerle ilgili Ermenistanl\u0131lar\u0131n bir\u00e7o\u011funun pek bilgisi yok. Sorunca, pek olumlu yan\u0131t vermiyorlar. Onlar da \u0130slam ve Ermeni terimlerini yan yana koyam\u0131yorlar. Fakat \u0130stanbullu Ermeniler kadar sert yakla\u015f\u0131mlar\u0131 da yok. T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermeniler i\u00e7in H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k ve Ermenilik \u00e7ok yak\u0131n kavramlar haline geldi\u011fi i\u00e7in, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeni kavram\u0131n\u0131 anlamak zor. Kabul edenler, bilenler de var fakat daha yayg\u0131n bak\u0131\u015f hakk\u0131nda konu\u015fuyorum. Onlar i\u00e7in birinin Ermeni olup namaz k\u0131lmas\u0131 inan\u0131lmaz ve \u00e7o\u011fu zaman kabul edilemez.<\/p>\n

M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler ise ne Ermenistanl\u0131 ne de bural\u0131 Ermenilerin Ermenili\u011fini sorguluyorlar \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc kendilerinin Ermenili\u011fini geri getirme veya ispatlama \u00e7abas\u0131ndalar. Elbette H\u0131ristiyan Ermenilerin inkar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yorlar ve iki defa inkara u\u011frad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 dile getiriyorlar. Baz\u0131 T\u00fcrk veya K\u00fcrt ortamlar\u0131nda Ermeni olduklar\u0131ndan kabullenemiyorlar, Ermeni olduklar\u0131n\u0131 dile getirdiklerinde bu sefer de H\u0131ristiyan Ermenilerden gelen inkarla kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya kal\u0131yorlar.<\/p>\n

Foto\u011fraf: Berge Arabian<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

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