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\"kudus\"<\/a>Yakup Barokas<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u015ealom gazetesinin eski yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni, gazeteci ve yazar Yakup Barokas Kud\u00fcs\u2019te Ermeni Patrikhanesi\u2019ni ziyaret etti, Patrikhane\u2019nin tarihi ve bug\u00fcn\u00fc \u00fczerine Patrikhane S\u00f6zc\u00fcs\u00fc Goryun Ba\u011fdasaryan ile geni\u015f bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi yapt\u0131.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Ermenilerin bu topraklara gelmeleri nas\u0131l ve hangi tarihte olmu\u015ftur? \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ermeniler M.S 4. y\u00fczy\u0131lda H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 kabul ettikten sonra bu topraklara geldiler. O d\u00f6nemde H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k hen\u00fcz Romal\u0131lar taraf\u0131ndan resmi din olarak kabul edilmemi\u015fti. Ermeni hac\u0131lar kutsal mek\u00e2nlar\u0131n aray\u0131\u015f\u0131 i\u00e7indeydiler. Ermeniler bu kutsal yerlerin \u00f6neminin bilinciyle k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck kiliseler in\u015fa ettiler.<\/p>\n

Kentin Ermeni b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcndeki kutsal mek\u00e2nlar hakk\u0131nda bilgi verebilir misiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ermeniler d\u00e2hil t\u00fcm H\u0131ristiyan \u00e2lemi i\u00e7in \u00f6nem ta\u015f\u0131yan yerler var; bir de sadece Ermenilere ait yerler var. \u2018The Church of the Holy Sepulchre\u2019 (Kutsal Kabir Kilisesi) Katolik, Ermeni ve Ortodoks kiliselerini i\u00e7erir.\u00a0 Bu kilisenin 4. y\u00fczy\u0131lda Bizans \u0130mparatoru Konstantin taraf\u0131ndan in\u015fa edildi\u011fi ileri s\u00fcr\u00fclen en \u00f6nemli b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc Ermenilere aittir. \u0130sa\u2019n\u0131n do\u011fdu\u011fu yer olan \u2018The Church of the Nativity\u2019 (Do\u011fu\u015f Kilisesi) Ermenilere ve Yunanl\u0131lara aittir. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc \u00f6nemli mek\u00e2n Kutsal Meryem\u2019in mezar\u0131n\u0131n \u00fczerine in\u015fa edilen \u2018Tomb of the Virgin Mary\u2019dir (Bakire Meryem\u2019in Mezar\u0131). Bu kilise de Ermeni ve Yunanl\u0131lara aittir. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda Saint James (Surp Agop) Katedrali gibi sadece Ermenilere ait olan kutsal yerler de bulunmaktad\u0131r. Bu katedralde Havari Yakup\u2019un kesik ba\u015f\u0131 ile Kud\u00fcs\u2019\u00fcn ilk patri\u011fi olan Yakup\u2019un bedeni g\u00f6m\u00fcl\u00fcd\u00fcr. Ayr\u0131ca bu sayd\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda Ermenilere ait pek \u00e7ok kilise ve \u015fapel de mevcuttur.<\/p>\n

Kud\u00fcs Ermenileri, Ermenistan d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda diasporadaki en eski toplumdur. Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi\u2019nin d\u00fcnya Ermenileri \u00fcst\u00fcnde ruhani liderli\u011fi veya etkinli\u011fi s\u00f6z konusu mudur?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bir zamanlar Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi M\u0131s\u0131r, L\u00fcbnan, Irak, K\u0131br\u0131s ve Suriye d\u00e2hil Ortado\u011fu\u2019daki t\u00fcm Ermeni cemaatlerinin ruhani lideri konumunda idi. 1915 \u00f6ncesinde en yo\u011fun Ermeni n\u00fcfusa sahip \u00fclkelerden biri M\u0131s\u0131r idi. Ancak tehcir sonras\u0131nda yerlerinden olan bir k\u0131s\u0131m Ermeniler, \u00f6zellikle Frans\u0131z Mandas\u0131 alt\u0131nda bulunan Suriye ve di\u011fer b\u00f6lge \u00fclkelerine da\u011f\u0131ld\u0131lar. Bu g\u00f6\u00e7menler Osmanl\u0131 topraklar\u0131na ve terk ettikleri b\u00f6lgelere d\u00f6nme umutlar\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yorlard\u0131. Ancak Cumhuriyet\u2019in ilan\u0131ndan sonra bunun m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlad\u0131lar ve Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi\u2019nden yerle\u015fme m\u00fcsaadesi istediler. Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi yurtlar\u0131ndan edilen bu Ermenilerin kendi egemenlik alan\u0131 i\u00e7inde bulunan Halep, \u015eam ve Beyrut\u2019ta ya\u015famlar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmelerini sa\u011flad\u0131. Yine de bunun ge\u00e7ici bir durum oldu\u011fu kan\u0131s\u0131 vard\u0131. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi sadece \u00dcrd\u00fcn, \u0130srail ve Filistin topraklar\u0131ndaki Ermeni cemaatlerinin ruhani temsilcisidir.<\/p>\n

Ermenistan\u2019da Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi\u2019nin yetkileri tan\u0131n\u0131r m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tabii ki Kud\u00fcs patri\u011fi olarak tan\u0131n\u0131r. Ancak Ermenistan d\u00e2hil d\u00fcnyada yukar\u0131da sayd\u0131\u011f\u0131m \u00fclkeler d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda di\u011fer hi\u00e7bir Ermeni cemaati \u00fczerinde yetkisi yoktur.<\/p>\n

G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde Eski Kud\u00fcs\u2019te (Antik Kud\u00fcs) n\u00fcfus 40 bin oldu\u011fu halde kentin alt\u0131da birini olu\u015fturan Ermeni b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnde sadece 500 Ermeni ya\u015f\u0131yor. \u0130srail\u2019in di\u011fer kentlerinde de Ermeniler var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130srail\u2019deki Ermenileri \u00fc\u00e7e ay\u0131rabiliriz. Birinci grup, 1915 olaylar\u0131ndan \u00f6nce Kud\u00fcs\u2019e gelenlerdir ki onlar\u0131\u00a0 \u2018kentliler\u2019 anlam\u0131na gelen bir terim ile \u2018ka\u011fakatsi\u2019 diye adland\u0131r\u0131yoruz. Bunlar\u0131n kendi farkl\u0131 ya\u015fam tarzlar\u0131, leh\u00e7eleri bulunmakta ve \u2018Eski Kent\u2019te, manast\u0131r\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ya\u015famaktayd\u0131lar.\u00a0 Daha sonra s\u0131\u011f\u0131nmac\u0131lar geldi. Bunlar 1915 olaylar\u0131ndan ka\u00e7anlard\u0131. 1917-1918 y\u0131llar\u0131nda \u0130ngilizlerin Kud\u00fcs\u2019\u00fc Osmanl\u0131lardan almalar\u0131 \u00fczerine Halep ve civar\u0131nda bulunan bu s\u0131\u011f\u0131nmac\u0131lar Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi\u2019nden talepte bulundular. 8 bin civar\u0131nda Ermeni Kud\u00fcs\u2019e geldi. Patri\u011fin bu istemi geri \u00e7evirmesi m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildi. Manast\u0131r\u2019da Ermeni hac\u0131lar\u0131 a\u011f\u0131rlamak i\u00e7in 1000 oda vard\u0131. Bunlar iki hac\u0131n\u0131n birlikte yatabilecekleri k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck odalard\u0131\u00a0 ama \u00e7aresizlikten kalabal\u0131k aileler bu odalarda ya\u015famak zorunda kald\u0131lar. Onlar\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fc, belki de d\u00f6rd\u00fcnc\u00fc nesilleri halen Manast\u0131r\u2019da ya\u015famay\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcyorlar. Bir de Sovyetler\u2019in da\u011f\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan gelen yeni bir g\u00f6\u00e7men dalgas\u0131 var. Bunlar Geri D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f Yasas\u0131\u2019na g\u00f6re aile fertlerinden birinin Yahudi olmas\u0131 ko\u015fulu ile \u0130srail vatanda\u015f\u0131 olmaya hak kazanm\u0131\u015f ki\u015filerdir. Bir Ermeni\u2019nin b\u00fcy\u00fckannesinin bile Yahudi olmas\u0131 yeterliydi. Eski Kud\u00fcs\u2019te ya\u015fayanlar d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda kentin Beyt Hanina, Alman semti gibi yerlerinde, ayr\u0131ca Beyt\u00fcllahim, Hayfa ve Yafa\u2019da yerle\u015fmi\u015f Ermeniler var. 1915 \u00f6ncesinde Hayfa\u2019da bir Ermeni yerle\u015fimi yoktu. Bu kentteki n\u00fcfus o tarihten sonra gelenlerden olu\u015fmaktad\u0131r. Sovyetler\u2019in da\u011f\u0131lmas\u0131ndan sonra gelenler ise Petah Tikva, Bat-Yam, Tel Aviv, Yafa gibi farkl\u0131 kentlere yerle\u015ftiler. \u0130srail\u2019de toplam 8 bin ki\u015filik bir Ermeni toplumu ya\u015f\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

Bu kesimler aras\u0131nda konu\u015ftuklar\u0131 lisan a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bir fark var m\u0131?\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

1915 \u00f6ncesinde bu topraklara yerle\u015fmi\u015f olan Ermenilerin farkl\u0131 leh\u00e7eleri vard\u0131. Arap\u00e7ay\u0131 da g\u00fcnl\u00fck lisan olarak kullanmaktayd\u0131lar. G\u00fcneydo\u011fu Anadolu\u2019dan gelenler T\u00fcrk\u00e7e konu\u015fuyorlard\u0131, hatta Ermeniceyi bile tam olarak bilmiyorlard\u0131. Sovyetler\u2019den, Ermenistan\u2019dan gelenler Ermenice konu\u015furken \u00d6zbekistan, T\u00fcrkmenistan gibi di\u011fer \u00fclkelerden gelenler Ermeniceyi bilmiyor, Rus\u00e7a konu\u015fuyorlard\u0131. 1929\u2019da burada \u2018Surp Tarkman\u00e7ats\u2019 ad\u0131nda bir okul a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131. Bu okulda t\u00fcm kesimlerin \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 Bat\u0131 Ermenicesi ile e\u011fitim ald\u0131. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde yeni ku\u015faklar tamamen ayn\u0131 dili kullan\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

Benim edindi\u011fim bilgi, 1948 \u00f6ncesinde bu topraklarda 35 bin Ermeni\u2019nin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u00fcnde. Siz ise toplam 8 binden s\u00f6z ediyorsunuz. Bu \u00e7ok ciddi bir fark de\u011fil mi?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130kinci D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n ard\u0131ndan 1946 ve 1947\u2019de yeniden Ermenistan\u2019a d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f ak\u0131m\u0131 ba\u015flad\u0131. Sovyet h\u00fck\u00fcmeti t\u00fcm diasporadan Ermenistan\u2019a g\u00f6\u00e7\u00fc destekledi hatta d\u00fczenledi. \u0130srail\u2019de Yafa, Hayfa gibi kentlerden de Sovyetler ile ba\u011flant\u0131l\u0131 olan Ermenilerin torunlar\u0131 bu g\u00f6\u00e7e kat\u0131ld\u0131. Say\u0131lar\u0131 d\u00f6rt, be\u015f bini buluyordu. Hatta d\u00f6nemin Patri\u011fi Hayfa\u2019ya gidip Ermenistan\u2019a g\u00f6\u00e7 edenleri yolcu etmi\u015fti. Beyrut Liman\u0131\u2019ndan kalkan b\u00fcy\u00fck bir gemi, aralar\u0131nda M\u0131s\u0131r\u2019dan gelenlerin de yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u00f6lgedeki Ermeni g\u00f6\u00e7menleri Ermenistan\u2019a ge\u00e7mek \u00fczere Batum\u2019a ta\u015f\u0131m\u0131\u015ft\u0131. 1948 sonras\u0131nda \u00f6zellikle Yafa\u2019da oturanlar olmak \u00fczere \u00e7ok say\u0131da Ermeni bir g\u00fcn d\u00f6nme umuduyla bu topraklar\u0131 terk etti. Ge\u00e7ici bir s\u00fcre i\u00e7in \u00dcrd\u00fcn\u2019e yerle\u015fti. 1948 sonras\u0131 \u0130srail-Arap sava\u015flar\u0131 da Ermeni n\u00fcfusunu olumsuz y\u00f6nde etkiledi.<\/p>\n

Kud\u00fcs\u2019teki Ermeniler genellikle hangi mesleklerde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorlar? Kuyumculuk sekt\u00f6r\u00fcnde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fanlar \u00e7o\u011funlukta m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n

En yayg\u0131n meslek seramik i\u015f\u00e7ili\u011fidir. K\u00fctahya\u2019dan seramik sanat\u0131n\u0131 bu topraklara 17 ve 18. y\u00fczy\u0131lda ta\u015f\u0131yanlar Ermenilerdir. Hatta K\u00fctahya\u2019da bu mesle\u011fi ba\u015flatanlar ve sanata d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrenler de onlard\u0131r. G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde ticaretin \u00e7e\u015fitli alanlar\u0131nda ve \u00f6zellikle kuyumculuk alan\u0131nda \u00f6ne \u00e7\u0131kmaktad\u0131rlar. 1915 sonras\u0131nda bu topraklarda en usta terzi, kundurac\u0131 ve saat\u00e7ilerin Ermeniler olduklar\u0131 s\u00f6ylenir.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin de daha kozmopolit bir n\u00fcfusa sahip oldu\u011fu y\u0131llarda yemek alan\u0131nda Rumlar\u0131n ve el i\u015f\u00e7ili\u011finde Ermenilerin uzman olduklar\u0131 bilinir\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ancak yeni ku\u015fak gen\u00e7ler art\u0131k \u00fcniversitelerde \u00f6\u011frenim g\u00f6r\u00fcyorlar. \u00c7ok yetenekli mimar, doktor, hem\u015fire ve m\u00fchendisler var. Daha do\u011frusu Ermeniler hemen her alanda faaliyet g\u00f6steriyorlar.<\/p>\n

Ben Eski Kud\u00fcs\u2019te Yahudilerin de Araplar\u0131n da kendi dinda\u015flar\u0131na d\u00fckk\u00e2nlar\u0131n\u0131 kiraya verdiklerini veya satt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 duydum. Bu do\u011fruysa Ermeniler bundan etkileniyor mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ermenilerin kendi mesleklerinde \u00e7ok iyi olduklar\u0131 bilinir. Ne m\u00fc\u015fteri a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan ne de d\u00fckk\u00e2n bulma a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bir sorunlar\u0131 yoktur. Zaten Ermeni n\u00fcfusu Yahudi-Arap anla\u015fmazl\u0131\u011f\u0131na kar\u0131\u015fmaz. Sion Kap\u0131s\u0131 giri\u015finde, Yahudilerin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u00f6lgede bile\u00a0 Ermeni d\u00fckk\u00e2nlar\u0131 halen mevcut ve oradan al\u0131\u015fveri\u015f yapanlar da Yahudilerdir.<\/p>\n

Yahudiler ile Araplar aras\u0131ndaki anla\u015fmazl\u0131klar, Ermenileri etkiliyor mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Biz politika ile ilgilenmiyoruz. Patri\u011fin g\u00f6revi kutsal mek\u00e2nlar\u0131n haklar\u0131n\u0131 savunmak ve korumak, t\u00f6renleri y\u00f6netmek ve Ermeni hac\u0131lar\u0131n buralara gelmesini sa\u011flamakt\u0131r. Bar\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131 bizim buradaki g\u00f6revlerimizi daha kolayl\u0131kla ve huzur i\u00e7inde s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmemizi sa\u011flar. Fakat bizim farkl\u0131 bir sorunumuz var; dini k\u0131yafetlerimiz ve sakall\u0131 olarak gezindi\u011fimizde a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 radikal dindar Yahudiler taraf\u0131ndan hakarete u\u011fruyoruz; bazen \u00fcst\u00fcm\u00fcze t\u00fck\u00fcrenler, ta\u015f atanlar oluyor.<\/p>\n

Yad\u0131rgad\u0131m, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de az\u0131nl\u0131klar, Yahudi, Ermeni, Rum ve di\u011fer dini temsilciler resmi t\u00f6renlere bile kendi \u00f6zel k\u0131yafetleri ile kat\u0131l\u0131rlar.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130srail\u2019de bu \u00e7irkin hareketlerde bulunanlar \u00e7ok ufak ve marjinal bir az\u0131nl\u0131k. Oysa ger\u00e7ekte \u0130srailliler de bu t\u00fcr davran\u0131\u015flar\u0131 \u00e7irkin buluyor ve k\u0131n\u0131yorlar.<\/p>\n

Kud\u00fcs\u2019teki k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck n\u00fcfusunuza ra\u011fmen bu denli \u00e7ok say\u0131daki kutsal mek\u00e2nlar\u0131n bak\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 ve masraflar\u0131n\u0131 nas\u0131l kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

1853\u2019te Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu ile Rus \u00c7arl\u0131\u011f\u0131 aras\u0131nda iki y\u0131l\u00a0 s\u00fcren bir sava\u015f oldu. Bu sava\u015f hem o b\u00f6lgede ya\u015fayanlar\u0131, hem Ruslar\u0131 hem de Osmanl\u0131lar\u0131 olumsuz y\u00f6nde etkiledi. O d\u00f6neme kadar Kud\u00fcs\u2019teki Ermeni Patrikhanesi hac\u0131lar\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131\u015flar\u0131 ile varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcyordu. Fakat bu sava\u015f y\u0131llar\u0131 s\u00fcresince hac\u0131lar Kud\u00fcs\u2019e gelemedi. Tarihi belgelere g\u00f6re sadece so\u011fan ve ekmek alacak fakir bir b\u00fct\u00e7eye sahip olundu\u011fundan o y\u0131llarda so\u011fan \u00e7orbas\u0131 ile beslenmek zorunda kal\u0131nm\u0131\u015f. O d\u00f6nemin \u0130zmir do\u011fumlu Patri\u011fi Hovhannes \u00e7ok zeki bir ki\u015fi idi. \u201cBu iki y\u0131l s\u00fcren sava\u015fta so\u011fan \u00e7orbas\u0131 ile beslenmek zorunda kald\u0131ysak daha uzun s\u00fcrebilecek bir sava\u015fta tamamen a\u00e7 kal\u0131r\u0131z\u201d diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc. \u00c7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc Ermeni hac\u0131lar\u0131n ba\u011f\u0131\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131 arazi sat\u0131n al\u0131m\u0131nda kullanmakta buldu. Ancak Kud\u00fcs\u2019te, Eski Kent d\u00e2hilinde arsa sat\u0131n almak i\u00e7in yeterli para yoktu. Bu durumda kentin surlar\u0131 d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda toprak sat\u0131n al\u0131m\u0131na ba\u015fland\u0131. Bu farkl\u0131 bir ekonomik y\u00f6ntemdi. 1860\u2019larda ve 1870\u2019lerde hi\u00e7 kimse surlar\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ya\u015fam\u0131yordu. 1890\u2019lardan sonra ahali \u00e7o\u011fal\u0131nca kent surlar\u0131 d\u0131\u015f\u0131ndaki b\u00f6lgeler de\u011ferlendi. Ermeni toplumuna ait arazilerde in\u015faatlar yap\u0131ld\u0131 ve bu in\u015faatlar farkl\u0131 ihtiya\u00e7lar i\u00e7in kiraya verildi. O tarihten g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze dek biz de ayn\u0131 ekonomik y\u00f6ntemi s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcyoruz. K\u0131sacas\u0131 ekonomik a\u00e7\u0131dan bir sorun ya\u015fam\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n

Kendinizi \u0130srailli mi yoksa Filistinli mi olarak tan\u0131ml\u0131yorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Biz kendimiz \u00f6ncelikle Ermeni sonra Kud\u00fcsl\u00fc olarak tan\u0131ml\u0131yoruz. Beyt\u00fcllahim\u2019de ya\u015fayan da kendini Beyt\u00fcllahimli Ermeni olarak tan\u0131mlar.<\/p>\n

K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir topluluksunuz. Geleneklerinizi, \u00f6rf ve adetlerinizi koruma konusunda bir sorun ya\u015f\u0131yor musunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dilimizi, k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc, geleneklerimizi koruman\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7 temel unsuru vard\u0131r. Kilise, okul ve aile\u2026 Kilise g\u00f6revini g\u00f6r\u00fcyor. Yuvadan liseye e\u011fitim veren okulumuz \u00e7ocuklara \u00fc\u00e7 ya\u015f\u0131ndan 18 ya\u015f\u0131na kadar e\u011fitim verirken Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc, tarihini, dilini gen\u00e7 nesillere aktar\u0131yor. Di\u011fer bir deyi\u015fle 200 kadar \u00f6\u011frencisi olan okul i\u015flevini yerine getiriyor. Aileler de geleneklere ba\u011fl\u0131lar. Belki tam terimi de\u011fil ama ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u2018getto\u2019 hayat\u0131 de\u011ferlerimizin korunmas\u0131nda \u00f6nemli bir etken. Teknoloji \u00e7a\u011f\u0131nda ya\u015f\u0131yoruz. Her Ermeni evinde Ermenistan televizyonun 10 farkl\u0131 kanal\u0131 seyrediliyor. Sosyal medyan\u0131n da \u00e7ok olumlu etkisi oluyor. Gen\u00e7ler mesajlar\u0131n\u0131 Ermenice yaz\u0131yor, d\u00fcnyadaki Ermeni ya\u015f\u0131tlar\u0131 ile ileti\u015fime bu dilde ge\u00e7iyorlar.<\/p>\n

Ge\u00e7ti\u011fimiz g\u00fcnlerde ya\u015fam\u0131n\u0131 yitiren Nobel Bar\u0131\u015f \u00d6d\u00fcl\u00fc sahibi \u015eimon Peres 2001\u2019de d\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakan\u0131 oldu\u011fu d\u00f6nemde, Ermenilerin 1915 y\u0131l\u0131nda ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 trajedinin Holokost ile bir tutulamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylemi\u015fti. \u015eimdiki Devlet Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Reuven Rivlin de tehciri \u2018mass killing\u2019 (kitlesel k\u0131y\u0131m) olarak nitelendirdi. Bu konudaki g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcz nedir?<\/p>\n

Reuven Rivlin \u0130srail\u2019in Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131 i\u00e7in \u00f6nc\u00fcl\u00fck eden ve bu y\u00f6nde \u00e7ok \u00e7aba harcayan ki\u015filerden biriydi. Rivlin milletvekilli\u011fi ve Knesset (Meclis) Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6nemlerde bu konu ile ilgili Knesset\u2019te d\u00fczenledi\u011fi g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme ve tart\u0131\u015fmalara Kud\u00fcs Ermeni Patri\u011fini de davet etmi\u015fti. Ben de Knesset\u2019teki t\u00fcm oturumlara kat\u0131ld\u0131m. O, bizzat oturumlar\u0131 y\u00f6netmi\u015fti; devlet ba\u015fkan\u0131 se\u00e7ildi\u011finde umutland\u0131k. Devlet ba\u015fkan\u0131 se\u00e7ildikten sonra Rivlin kelime oyunu ile ya\u015fananlar\u0131 kitlesel bir i\u00e7erikten soyutlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Ne diyebilirim ki, buras\u0131 bizim vatanda\u015f\u0131 oldu\u011fumuz bir \u00fclke\u2026 Devlet ba\u015fkan\u0131 istedi\u011fi ifadeyi kullanabilir, bizim buna kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmam\u0131z s\u00f6z konusu de\u011fildir. Devlet politikas\u0131 b\u00f6ylesini gerektiriyorsa devlet ba\u015fkan\u0131 da buna uymak zorundad\u0131r. \u0130srail, T\u00fcrkiye ile ili\u015fkilerine \u00f6nem veriyor. Biz Ermeni toplumu olarak \u0130srail devletinden Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131 tan\u0131mas\u0131n\u0131 istemedik, istemeyece\u011fiz de. Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131 tan\u0131mak \u0130srail halk\u0131n\u0131n ahlaki sorumlulu\u011fudur.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki Ermeni toplumu ile ili\u015fkileriniz nas\u0131l?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tabii ki \u00e7ok iyi ili\u015fkilerimiz mevcut; hem toplum olarak, hem de dini temsilcilikler a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan. Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi 15 Temmuz darbe giri\u015fiminde \u0130stanbul\u2019dayd\u0131 ve havaalan\u0131na gidiyordu. K\u00f6pr\u00fcye ula\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131nda gidemeyece\u011fini anlad\u0131 ve Patrikhane\u2019ye geri d\u00f6nd\u00fc. Bayramlarda kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 ziyaretler oluyor. Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu d\u00f6neminde \u0130stanbul Patri\u011fi her konuda, \u00f6zellikle kutsal mek\u00e2nlar\u0131n korunmas\u0131 s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda Kud\u00fcs Patri\u011fi\u2019ne \u00e7ok yard\u0131mc\u0131 olmu\u015ftu. Patrikhaneler aras\u0131 ili\u015fkiler tarih boyunca s\u00fcregeldi.<\/p>\n

Patrik\u00a0Nurhan Manukyan ile tan\u0131\u015fma<\/strong><\/p>\n

Patrik bizleri g\u00fcn \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n bolca ayd\u0131nlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131, duvarlar\u0131 eski patriklerin devasa boyutta ya\u011fl\u0131 boya tablolar\u0131 ile dekore edilmi\u015f Patrikhanenin geni\u015f hol\u00fcnde kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131. Tablolarda her patrik, toplumuna yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00f6nemli katk\u0131lar\u0131n ve ba\u015far\u0131lar\u0131n simgeleri ile yans\u0131t\u0131lmakta. \u00d6rne\u011fin 1838 y\u0131l\u0131nda matbaay\u0131 Kud\u00fcs\u2019e getiren Patrik Zakaria Gopetzi elinde bir kitap tutarken, Patrik Hovhannes,\u00a0 Kud\u00fcs surlar\u0131 ard\u0131ndaki arazilerin \u00f6n\u00fcnde g\u00f6r\u00fcnt\u00fclenmektedir.<\/p>\n

Patrik Nurhan Manukyan sa\u011fl\u0131k durumu nedeniyle erken saatte dinlenmeye giderken ayak\u00fcst\u00fc yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z k\u0131sa s\u00f6yle\u015fide bana T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin durumu ve \u00f6zellikle Hrant Dink davas\u0131 ile ilgili geli\u015fmeleri sordu.<\/p>\n

Patrik, Erivanl\u0131 David adl\u0131 gen\u00e7 bir rahibin rehberli\u011finde Eski kentin Ermeni kesimini gezmemizi de sa\u011flad\u0131.<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazi\/16722\/once-ermeni-sonra-kudusluyuz<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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