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\"Dersim'in<\/a>\u00d6zel Haber: G\u00d6K\u00c7EN B. D\u0130N\u00c7 \/ AKT\u00dcEL<\/strong>
\n Foto\u011fraflar: ERGUN CANDEM\u0130R<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tarihi travmalarla dolu bir b\u00f6lgenin, ge\u00e7mi\u015fi ac\u0131larla dolu insanlar\u0131: Dersim Ermenileri. Onlar \u015fimdi travmalarla dolu tarihlerini hat\u0131rl\u0131yor. Akt\u00fcel, Dersim\u2019de Ermenilerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

\u0130LK KEZ K\u0130ML\u0130KLER\u0130N\u0130 TARTI\u015eIP YA\u015eADIKLARINI ANLATIYORLAR<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cG\u00f6kte H\u0131z\u0131r da olsam Ermeni diyorlar\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tarihi travmalarla dolu bir b\u00f6lgenin, ge\u00e7mi\u015fi ac\u0131larla dolu insanlar\u0131: Dersim Ermenileri. Onlar \u015fimdi travmalarla dolu tarihlerini hat\u0131rl\u0131yor. Yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 haberlerle g\u00fcndem ibelirleyen dergi Akt\u00fcel, Dersim\u2019de Ermenilerle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc.<\/p>\n

\u201cErmeni oldu\u011fumuzu 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de \u00f6\u011frendik\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

“Annem K\u00fcrt ama babam\u0131n ailesi Ermeni. 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de \u00f6\u011frendik Ermeni oldu\u011fumuzu, kendimizi K\u00fcrt san\u0131yorduk, devlet biliyormu\u015f, biz bilmiyorduk. O zaman Ankara\u2019d a \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yordum, e\u015fimin, ailemin yan\u0131na k\u00f6y\u00fcme gidemiyordum. Gelsem de tokat yemeden d\u00f6nemiyordum. Sonra ailemi yan\u0131ma ald\u0131rd\u0131m, annem babam kald\u0131 bir tek. Zaten k\u00f6ylerde sadece ya\u015fl\u0131lar kald\u0131. Ama onlar Ermenili\u011fini s\u00f6ylemiyor bask\u0131dan, buradan g\u00f6\u00e7en gen\u00e7ler s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor \u00f6zg\u00fcrce.”<\/p>\n

Resmi ad\u0131yla Tunceli\u2019nin Alanyaz\u0131, halk\u0131n diliyle Dersim\u2019in Xozun k\u00f6y\u00fcndeyiz. Bir zamanlar Ermeni kilisesinin oldu\u011fu alanda, kiliseden kalan tek ta\u015f\u0131n \u00fczerine oturmu\u015f Hasan Polat b\u00f6yle anlat\u0131yor hik\u00e2yesini. Alanyaz\u0131 k\u00f6y\u00fcnde do\u011fan, Ankara\u2019da k\u00f6y hizmetlerinden emekli olan Polat, ba\u015fkentte sorun ya\u015famam\u0131\u015f, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc kimli\u011finde \u201c\u0130slam\u201d yaz\u0131yormu\u015f. \u201cBe\u015f \u00e7ocu\u011fum hen\u00fcz kimli\u011fimizin tam fark\u0131nda de\u011fil\u201d diyen Polat asl\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ilk kez konu\u015fulmaya ba\u015flayan bir toplulu\u011fun \u00fcyesi: Dersim Ermenileri. Bug\u00fcne kadar 1915 Ermeni tehcirinde Dersim b\u00f6lgesine s\u0131\u011f\u0131nd\u0131klar\u0131 s\u00f6ylenen, 1937-38 Dersim olaylar\u0131nda b\u00f6lgede ya\u015fanan ac\u0131lara ortak olan Dersim Ermenileri, 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019de ve 90\u2019l\u0131 y\u0131llar\u0131n ter\u00f6r ortam\u0131nda da b\u00fcy\u00fck travmalar ya\u015fad\u0131lar.<\/p>\n

\u201cDersim hi\u00e7bir yere benzemez\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dersimli bir Ermeni olan Mirhan Prgi\u00e7 G\u00fcltekin\u2019in dernek kurmaya haz\u0131rland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6\u011frenince kendisiyle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fck. B\u00f6lgede ya\u015fayanlar\u0131n bu giri\u015fim hakk\u0131nda ne d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc \u00f6\u011frenmek, onlar\u0131n hik\u00e2yelerini dinlemek i\u00e7in Dersim\u2019in yolunu tuttuk.<\/p>\n

Tarihi travmalarla dolu bir b\u00f6lgede, hele Ermeni olman\u0131n h\u00e2l\u00e2 \u201ck\u00fcf\u00fcr\u201d addedildi\u011fi, bas\u0131nda \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015fayan \u2018gizli Ermeniler\u2019 b\u00f6l\u00fcc\u00fcl\u00fckte \u00f6nemli rol oynuyor\u201d gibi c\u00fcmlelerin kolayca sarf edildi\u011fi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde, neyle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015faca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 tahmin ediyorduk asl\u0131nda. M\u00fclkiye M\u00fcfetti\u015fi Hamdi Bey\u2019in, \u015eubat 1926\u2019da h\u00fck\u00fcmete sundu\u011fu raporda, \u201cCumhuriyet h\u00fck\u00fcmeti i\u00e7in bir \u00e7\u0131banba\u015f\u0131\u201d dedi\u011fi Dersim\u2019de ilk g\u00fcn, Munzur nehrine tepeden bakan bir kahvede uzun s\u00fcre sohbet etti\u011fimiz Ermeniler, katliamlar\u0131, ac\u0131lar\u0131 ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 anlatt\u0131lar; y\u0131llard\u0131r Ermeni k\u00f6kenli olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in d\u0131\u015fland\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylediler ama ses kay\u0131t cihaz\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7mam\u0131z\u0131 veya foto\u011fraf \u00e7ekmemizi istemediler. Kimi \u201cBen gencim, b\u00fcy\u00fcklerim k\u00f6kenini s\u00f6ylemedikten sonra ben bir \u015fey demem\u201d dedi, kimi \u201ckimli\u011fimize sahip \u00e7\u0131kal\u0131m ama acele etmeyelim, buras\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin ba\u015fka hi\u00e7bir b\u00f6lgesine benzemez\u201d diyerek uyard\u0131.<\/p>\n

Elbette \u201cDersim Ermenileri Derne\u011fi\u201dni kurmaya haz\u0131rlanan 29 Temmuz-1 A\u011fustos\u2019ta d\u00fczenlenen 10\u2019uncu Munzur K\u00fclt\u00fcr ve Do\u011fa Festivali\u2019nde stant a\u00e7an Mirhan Prgi\u00e7 G\u00fcltekin onlarla hemfikir de\u011fil: \u201cErmenilik bug\u00fcn k\u00fcf\u00fcr gibi alg\u0131lan\u0131yor. Bunun sebebi, bilmemek ve korkmak. Derne\u011fi kurmaya karar verdikten sonra bana hem festivalde hem de sonras\u0131nda bir\u00e7ok Dersimli Ermeni ula\u015ft\u0131 ve olumlu bakt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylediler.\u201d Dersim\u2019de Ermenilere dair hi\u00e7bir \u015fey kalmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyen, k\u0131sa s\u00fcre \u00f6nce Bak\u0131rk\u00f6y\u2019de ismini de\u011fi\u015ftiren Mirhan Prgi\u00e7, dernek olarak b\u00f6lgedeki Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne sahip \u00e7\u0131kacaklar\u0131n\u0131 belirtiyor: \u201cBu \u00fclkedeki di\u011fer halklarla e\u015fit ko\u015fullarda ya\u015famak istiyoruz. Ermeni isem Ermeni ismi ta\u015f\u0131mak benim en do\u011fal hakk\u0131m. En k\u00f6t\u00fcs\u00fc kendi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc ba\u015fkas\u0131n\u0131n k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc diye ya\u015famak. Mesela halay Ermeni oyunudur, biz K\u00fcrtlerin oyunu diye \u00f6\u011frendik. Dersim\u2019de K\u00fcrtler, Aleviler, T\u00fcrkler kendi k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerini ya\u015f\u0131yorlar ama biz ya\u015fayam\u0131yoruz. E\u011fer bu \u00fclke demokratikle\u015fecek, tarihiyle y\u00fczle\u015fecekse insanlar\u0131n de\u011ferlerini tan\u0131mal\u0131.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cArkam\u0131zdan Ermeni derler, soyu k\u0131r\u0131k derler\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tarihle y\u00fczle\u015fmek denilince T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de akla gelen ilk tabu \u201cErmeni tehciri\u201d s\u0131ras\u0131nda ya\u015fananlar, b\u00f6lgeye \u00f6zel bir \u00f6nem kazand\u0131r\u0131yor. Uzun y\u0131llard\u0131r s\u00f6yleneni, avukat H\u00fcseyin Aygun\u2019un s\u00f6zleri \u00f6zetliyor: \u201cErmeniler toplan\u0131p tehcir ve k\u0131r\u0131ma g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcl\u00fcrken Dersimliler son derece onurlu bir tutum tak\u0131n\u0131r. B\u00f6lgenin bu \u2018kadim halk\u0131\u2019na bir H\u0131z\u0131r gibi yeti\u015firler; onlar\u0131 saklarlar; Erzincan\u2019a kadar g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp Ruslara teslim ederek can g\u00fcvenliklerini sa\u011flarlar.\u201d \u0130ddialara g\u00f6re b\u00f6lgeye s\u0131\u011f\u0131nan 20 bin Ermeni, Erzincan \u00fczerinden olu\u015fturulan \u2018yeralt\u0131 demiryolu\u2019 sayesinde Rusya\u2019ya ka\u00e7arak hayatta kalabilmi\u015f.
\nBu iddialar do\u011fru olsa da, do\u011fdu\u011fundan beri Dersim\u2019in Alanyaz\u0131 k\u00f6y\u00fcnde ya\u015fayan 84 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki H\u0131d\u0131r Bozta\u015f\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6zleri sorular\u0131 \u00e7o\u011falt\u0131yor: \u201cMirakan a\u015firetindeniz. \u00c7ok s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 \u00e7ektik, daha da \u00e7ekiyoruz, dedemizden beddua m\u0131 ald\u0131k nedir, bilmiyorum. Burada ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k hep vard\u0131, bitmez. Babam 1915\u2019te buradaym\u0131\u015f, dedemin alt\u0131n\u0131yla arazi alm\u0131\u015flar da onlara, korumu\u015flar bizi. Pirimiz bir demi\u015fler, bizdensiniz demi\u015fler. K\u0131z ald\u0131k, verdik, kar\u0131m H\u0131ran a\u015firetinden, pirimiz onlar\u0131n piri, ama yine ayn\u0131, arkam\u0131zdan Ermeni derler, soyu k\u0131r\u0131k derler.\u201d H\u0131d\u0131r Bey\u2019in o\u011flu \u0130mam Bozta\u015f 2004\u2019te faili me\u00e7hul bir cinayete kurban gitmi\u015f, di\u011fer \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 b\u00f6lgeden g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015f, o da e\u015fiyle gitmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fc\u015f ama \u201cburada i\u00e7 i\u00e7e b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fckleri, buraya al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131, nereye gitseler zaten ayn\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131\u201d i\u00e7in gitmemi\u015fler. Bozta\u015f sadece 1915 Ermeni tehcirinde de\u011fil, 1937-38\u2019de de yine arazi vererek kurtulduklar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n

1937-38 Dersim olaylar\u0131 asl\u0131nda bir s\u00fcredir T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de konu\u015fuluyor. Osmanl\u0131\u2019da Yavuz Sultan Selim d\u00f6neminden beri \u201csorun\u201d olan b\u00f6lgeye 1937\u2019de \u00fc\u00e7 u\u00e7ak filosu bomba ya\u011fm\u0131\u015f. 1938\u2019de Seyit R\u0131za ve o\u011flu ile beraber bir\u00e7ok a\u015firet reisi idam edilmi\u015f, idamlardan sonra 15 Temmuz ve 10 A\u011fustos 1938\u2019teki harek\u00e2tlarda binlerce insan \u00f6lm\u00fc\u015f, s\u00fcrg\u00fcn edilmi\u015fti. Mirhan Prgi\u00e7, 38 katliam\u0131n\u0131n \u201cErmenileri saklad\u0131n\u0131z\u201d gerek\u00e7esiyle daha sert oldu\u011funu iddia ediyor.<\/p>\n

\u201cErmeni bizi kabul etmiyor ki!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

Alanyaz\u0131 k\u00f6y\u00fcnden, 87 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki Mehmet Ali Bozta\u015f o y\u0131llarda 15 ya\u015f\u0131ndaym\u0131\u015f: \u201c38\u2019i g\u00f6rd\u00fcm, anam \u2018o\u011flum bizi k\u0131racaklar\u2019 dedi. Bir tabur asker ge\u00e7ti, sonra makineli t\u00fcfekle \u00f6ld\u00fcrd\u00fcler herkesi\u201d. Mehmet Ali Bey, y\u0131llarca b\u00f6lgedeki halkla beraber ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 h\u00e2lde ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131n de\u011fi\u015fmedi\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor: \u201cG\u00f6kte H\u0131z\u0131r da olsam Ermeni diyorlar, onlar i\u00e7in en kutsal ki\u015fi olan H\u0131z\u0131r\u2019\u0131n o\u011flu olsam da Ermeni diyorlar. Annem Ermeni de\u011fil. Biz Alevi diyoruz kendimize, ke\u015fke Ermeni olsayd\u0131m, ama Ermeni bizi kabul etmiyor ki, siz Alevisiniz diyorlar, bana da, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131ma da, Ermenice bilmiyorsunuz, H\u0131ran a\u015firetindensiniz diyorlar. H\u00e2lbuki ben damar\u0131m\u0131 ink\u00e2r etmem.\u201d
\nMehmet Ali Bey\u2019in amcas\u0131n\u0131n o\u011flu \u0130brahim Bozta\u015f da k\u00f6kenini ink\u00e2r etmiyor. 1934 do\u011fumlu olan \u0130brahim Bey\u2019in ailesi 1915\u2019te B\u00fcy\u00fckyurt k\u00f6y\u00fcnden gelmi\u015f Dersim\u2019e, dedesi Temir A\u011fa\u2019ya s\u0131\u011f\u0131nm\u0131\u015f. Hen\u00fcz d\u00f6rt ya\u015f\u0131nda oldu\u011fu 1938\u2019e dair ona anlat\u0131lanlar\u0131 ise \u00e7ok iyi hat\u0131rl\u0131yor: \u201cDersimli bir grup bir ma\u011faraya saklan\u0131yor, onlardan biri albaya haber veriyor nerede sakland\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131. Komutan \u00f6nce \u015fik\u00e2yet edeni vur diyor, kendi halk\u0131na faydas\u0131 olmayan\u0131n bana hi\u00e7 faydas\u0131 olmaz. Onu vuruyorlar, sonra da ma\u011faradakileri \u00f6ld\u00fcrm\u00fc\u015fler.\u201d \u0130brahim Bey yine de 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019den \u00f6nce rahat olduklar\u0131n\u0131 ama \u201cpis bir zaman\u201d dedi\u011fi 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019den sonra \u00e7ok \u00e7ektiklerini anlat\u0131yor: \u201cAmbargo koydular, 10 \u00e7ocu\u011fum var, 12 ki\u015fiye haftada bir kilo \u015feker, yar\u0131m \u00e7uval un, neye yeter. Ambargo Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019da, Erzincan\u2019da yoktu, sadece bize vard\u0131. Cemevine ba\u011fl\u0131y\u0131z, dedemiz Alevili\u011fi kabul etmi\u015f, mecbur o yolda gidiyoruz, ama bizim s\u00fclalemiz Ermeni oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in daha \u00e7ok s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131lar.\u201d G\u00f6\u00e7lerin ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ter\u00f6r y\u0131llar\u0131nda e\u015fi G\u00fczel Bozta\u015f \u201cburadan gidelim\u201d demi\u015f ama \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 g\u00f6\u00e7 etse de onlar hi\u00e7 ayr\u0131lmam\u0131\u015flar k\u00f6ylerinden.
\nDersim halk\u0131n\u0131n k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc ve Ermenilerin k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc benzer 70 y\u0131ld\u0131r bu k\u00f6yde ya\u015fayan G\u00fczel Han\u0131m Ermeni de\u011fil, ama \u201c\u00c7ok \u00e7ektik ter\u00f6r zaman\u0131, 12 Eyl\u00fcl\u2019den sonra\u201d diyor, \u201cKorkuyorduk \u00e7ok, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcyorlard\u0131, i\u015fkenceler yapt\u0131lar, geceleri pencereleri kapat\u0131n, \u0131\u015f\u0131klar\u0131 a\u00e7may\u0131n diyorlard\u0131, zorla evden i\u00e7eri giriyorlard\u0131. Polatlar ve Bozta\u015flar\u2019\u0131 g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcyorlard\u0131 sadece, Ermeni olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in\u201d.<\/p>\n

B\u00f6yle bir b\u00f6lgede Ermeni k\u00f6kenini saklaman\u0131n sebebini elbette sadece korkakl\u0131k olarak a\u00e7\u0131klamak zor. Ba\u015fka bir sebep de asl\u0131nda Dersim\u2019de ya\u015fayan Ermenilerin \u00e7o\u011funun art\u0131k Alevi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc benimsemi\u015f olmalar\u0131. Mirhan Prgi\u00e7, Harput\u2019ta, Sason\u2019da, Malatya\u2019da az da olsa ismiyle ya\u015fayan Ermenilerin bulundu\u011funu, ama Dersim Ermenilerinin hepsinin \u201cd\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc\u201d\u201d s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor ve ekliyor: \u201c\u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc Dersim halk\u0131n\u0131n k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc ile Ermenilerin k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc benziyor.\u201d
\nDersimde konu\u015fulan dilde Ermenice s\u00f6zc\u00fcklere rastlan\u0131yor. Benzerlikler dille s\u0131n\u0131rl\u0131 de\u011fil, \u00f6rne\u011fin K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f K\u00fcrt gelene\u011finde ya\u015fanan Gagan Bayram\u0131 bir nevi y\u0131lba\u015f\u0131 olarak kutlan\u0131yor ve oca\u011f\u0131n ikinci haftas\u0131na denk geliyor. Benzer bir gelenek Orthodoks-Gregoryan Ermeni K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcnde de mevcut. Orthodoks-Gregoryan Ermeniler Ga\u011fant ad\u0131 alt\u0131nda y\u0131lba\u015f\u0131n\u0131 ve m\u00fcteakiben 6 Ocakta Noel Bayram\u0131\u2019n\u0131 kutluyorlar.<\/p>\n

Tunceli esnaf\u0131 Zeki Sar\u0131ca<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cErmenice bilmiyorum, ama k\u00f6kenimi \u00f6\u011frenmek istiyorum\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201c1980 Mazgirt do\u011fumluyum, 30 y\u0131ld\u0131r burada ya\u015f\u0131yorum. H\u00fcseyin dedem burada do\u011fmu\u015f b\u00fcy\u00fcm\u00fc\u015f, Ermeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131nda Burmage\u00e7it k\u00f6y\u00fcn\u00fcn b\u00fcy\u00fck b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc dedeme aitmi\u015f, babas\u0131, karde\u015fleri katledilmi\u015f, dedem ka\u00e7\u0131p burada Mazgirt Dazkaya k\u00f6y\u00fcnde Mustafa a\u011fan\u0131n yan\u0131na s\u0131\u011f\u0131nm\u0131\u015f, tek ba\u015f\u0131na kurtulmu\u015f. Karde\u015flerinin \u00e7o\u011fu \u00f6ld\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f, hayatta kalanlar\u0131 da kaybetmi\u015f. Babaannem de Ermeni. G\u00fcltekin\u2019in giri\u015fimi \u00e7ok daha \u00f6nce yap\u0131lmal\u0131yd\u0131 bence. Burada \u00e7ok Ermeni var ama kendilerini gizliyorlar. Asimile olmu\u015flar ve korkuyorlar. Ben Ermeni oldu\u011fumu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum ama babam bunu yapm\u0131yor. Toplum i\u00e7inde herkes biliyor onun Ermeni oldu\u011funu, asker, polis de biliyor ama \u2018biz Seyithan a\u015firetindeniz\u2019 diyor. Korkuyorlar, ben art\u0131k korkmuyorum. Dersim\u2019de yak\u0131n zamana kadar Ermeni olmak \u00e7ok zordu, H\u0131rant Dink\u2019in \u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcnden sonra Ermeniler daha cesur oldu. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de \u00e7ok \u015fey de\u011fi\u015fiyor, en az\u0131ndan insanlar kendi isimlerini kullanabiliyor. 20 sene \u00f6nce okulda Zazaca konu\u015fursak \u00f6\u011fretmen bizi d\u00f6v\u00fcyordu. Ermenice bilmiyorum, ama k\u00f6kenimi \u00f6\u011frenmek istiyorum, soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 dahi tam olarak bilmiyorum, ne olmu\u015f? 38\u2019de ne olmu\u015f, tam olarak \u00f6\u011frenmek istiyorum. \u015eimdi bunlar m\u00fcmk\u00fcn g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor ama T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de her an her \u015fey de\u011fi\u015febilir. Ben h\u00fcmanistim, benim K\u00fcrtlerle, T\u00fcrklerle sorunum yok, ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k yap\u0131lmas\u0131n yeter.”<\/p>\n

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