{"id":4121,"date":"2011-02-03T06:25:39","date_gmt":"2011-02-03T11:25:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=4121"},"modified":"2011-02-03T06:27:24","modified_gmt":"2011-02-03T11:27:24","slug":"miran-pirgic-gultekinle-soylesimiz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=4121","title":{"rendered":"Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin’le s\u00f6yle\u015fimiz"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Dersim Ermenileri \u0130nan<\/em><\/strong>\u00e7<\/em><\/strong> ve Sosyal Yard\u0131mla\u015fma Derne\u011fi Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin, Bat\u0131 Ermenistan ve Bat\u0131 Ermenileri Sorunlar\u0131 Ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar Merkezi\u2019ne \u015fu s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi verdi: <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Say\u0131n Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin, Ermenistanl\u0131lar, Derne\u011finizin <\/strong>\u00e7<\/strong>al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ilgi g\u00f6steriyorlar. Pek \u00f6nemli bir giri\u015fimde bulunmu\u015fsunuz. Derne\u011fi kurma d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesinin nas\u0131l ortaya <\/strong>\u00e7<\/strong>\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Aile ya\u015fam\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7inde bilinen kimli\u011fimizle b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fck ve bu kimli\u011fin yeniden kullanma d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesi hep akl\u0131m\u0131zdayd\u0131. Bu s\u00fcrecin olu\u015fmas\u0131na hayat\u0131ma y\u00f6n veren siyasi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncelerim \u00f6n ayak olmu\u015ftur. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi ve d\u00fcnyay\u0131 sarsan Hrant Dink, cinayetinin ard\u0131ndan Ermeni kimli\u011finin korkulmas\u0131 ve saklanmas\u0131 gereken de\u011fil savunulmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fck. Hrant Dink\u2019in katledilmesinin ard\u0131ndan ba\u015flayan kimlik m\u00fccadelesi, K\u00fcrt sorununda devam eden kimlik m\u00fccadelesi bizlere de m\u00fccadele etme, birlik olma y\u00fck\u00fcn\u00fc y\u00fckledi.<\/p>\n

\u0130stanbul Ermenilerinin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda Anadolu\u2019da ya\u015fayan Ermenilerin \u00f6rg\u00fctlenme tart\u0131\u015famalar\u0131 ba\u015flay\u0131nca dernek kurma fikri giderek olgunla\u015fmaya ba\u015flad.<\/p>\n

Dernek \u00fcyeleri aras\u0131nda Dersim\u2019de ya\u015fayanlar var m\u0131 aceba?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dersim\u2019de \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma yapan y\u00f6netici ve \u00fcye arkada\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z var.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Derne\u011finiz hangi hedefi takip ediyor. Bunlara ul\u015fama yolunda bir engel <\/strong>\u00e7<\/strong>\u0131k\u0131yor mu? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Dernek asl\u0131nda fikir olarak Dersim\u2019de ya\u015fayan, s\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f ve kimlik konusunda s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 ya\u015fayan Ermenileri\u00a0 bir araya getirmeye, hi\u00e7 olmazsa kimliklerinin fark\u0131ndal\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Dersim\u2019de art\u0131k yok olamaya y\u00fcz tutmu\u015f Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc \u00fczerine de \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma yapmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de bu tarz sivil toplum m\u00fccadelesi konusunda olduk\u00e7a yeni yol katediyor. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n derneklere ve vak\u0131flara ula\u015fmas\u0131 konusunda s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 ya\u015fan\u0131yor. \u0130stanbul Ermenileri de dernek ve vak\u0131flar\u0131 olduk\u00e7a aktif \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 olsa da derne\u011fimiz ba\u015fta olmak \u00fczere pek \u00e7ok Anadolu Ermenilerinin \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 derneklere s\u0131cak bakm\u0131yorlar. Dil ve inan\u00e7lar\u0131n asimle edilmi\u015f olmas\u0131n\u0131n verdi\u011fi s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar var. Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n g\u00f6sterdi\u011fi ilgi ve destek \u0130stanbul Ermenilerinden gelmiyor. Cemaat, azalma ve darl\u0131k s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na ra\u011fmen a\u00e7\u0131lmay\u0131 g\u00f6ze alam\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye Ermenilerinin, T\u00fcrkiye Patrikli\u011fi d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda sivil \u00fcst \u00f6rg\u00fctl\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc olmamas\u0131 da ciddi bir s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131.<\/p>\n

Derne\u011finizin ka<\/strong>\u00e7<\/strong> \u00fcyesi var? <\/strong><\/p>\n

80 \u00fcyemiz var.<\/p>\n

Derne\u011finize sadece Ermeniler mi \u00fcye oluyorlar? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Ermeniler ve d\u00f6nme Ermenilerini \u00fcye yap\u0131yoruz<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kimliklerine d\u00f6nen Ermeniler, ne <\/strong>gibi b\u00fcrokratik sorunlarla kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya kal\u0131yorlar? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Hi\u00e7bir b\u00fcrokratik s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 ya\u015famad\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Ge\u00e7ende Dersim\u2019i ziyaret ettiniz. Orada yapm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funuz \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 biraz anlatabilir misiniz? Dersim\u2019de d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceleriniz ne gibi kabul g\u00f6rd\u00fcler? Derne\u011finiz, Dersim\u2019de faaliyet g\u00f6steriyor mu? <\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Dersim\u2019de Mazgirt (Mazgert), Ovac\u0131k (Pulur), Hozat (Xozat) il\u00e7eleri ve k\u00f6ylerini dernek faaliyetleri kapsam\u0131nda gezdik. Bu il\u00e7elerde bulunan Ermenilere ait, yani k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcze ait tarihi yerleri g\u00f6r\u00fcp, foto\u011fraflad\u0131k. \u0130l\u00e7e belediye ba\u015fkanlar\u0131 ile yapm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fumuz sohbet gelecek i\u00e7in umut vericiydi. Bu ba\u015fkanlardan festival davetleri ald\u0131k. Ayr\u0131ca birebir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f oldu\u011fumuz il\u00e7e sakinleri i\u00e7erisinde Ermeniler vard\u0131 ve bu insanlarla birlikte yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z sohbetlerde kendilerini \u00e7ok rahat ifade ettiklerini g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Ziyaret etmi\u015f oldu\u011fumuz y\u0131k\u0131k kiliselerde, y\u00f6re halk\u0131n\u0131n \u2013y\u0131k\u0131k olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen- ibadet ettiklerini anlad\u0131k. Osmanl\u0131 d\u00f6neminde katledilen Ermenilerin, katledildikleri yerleri g\u00f6rd\u00fck ve y\u00f6re halk\u0131ndan buralar\u0131n hikayelerini dinledik.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

\u00a0Siz Dersim\u2019de ya\u015fayan bir kripto Ermeni ailesinde do\u011fdunuz. Kimli\u011finizi nas\u0131l ke\u015ffettiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Aile i\u00e7ersinde hep bu kimlik ile b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fck. Kimli\u011fin yeniden ke\u015ffi ger\u00e7ekle\u015fti bir anlamda. Toplumlar\u0131n bu kadar i\u00e7i i\u00e7e ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir co\u011frafyada \u00fcst kimlik dayatmalar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 geli\u015fen m\u00fccadelede \u00f6nce \u00fcst kimli\u011fe tepki, sonra \u00f6ze d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f olarak Ermenili\u011fi ya\u015famaya ba\u015flad\u0131k. E\u015fimin de d\u00f6nme Ermeni olmas\u0131 ve kimli\u011fin ya\u015fanmas\u0131 konusunda verdi\u011fi destekler, bu d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f\u00fc kolayla\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131\u2026<\/p>\n

Ailenizde Ermeni gelenekler korunmu\u015f <\/strong><\/p>\n

muydular?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>\u00dcst kimlik dayatmalar\u0131n\u0131n yaratt\u0131\u011f\u0131 asimilasyon sonras\u0131nda \u015fu anda maalesef ya\u015fanan hi\u00e7bir gelenek yok.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Aileniz, soyk\u0131r\u0131m s\u0131ras\u0131nda m\u0131, daha \u00f6nce mi Dersim\u2019e gitmi\u015ftir? Sizin ve ailenizin hikayesini anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z biraz?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>Aile olarak 1915\u2019ten sonra M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015farak Alevi meshebini ya\u015famay\u0131 ya\u015faman\u0131n tekk alternatifi olarak g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015fler. \u00d6nce 1915 ard\u0131ndan cumhuriyetten sonra Ermeni okullar\u0131n\u0131n ve kiliselerin yok edilmesi kimli\u011fin kendini ya\u015fatmas\u0131na engel oldu.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dostlar\u0131n\u0131z karar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 nas\u0131l kabul ettiler? <\/strong><\/p>\n

Ba\u015flarda bir garipseme ya\u015fansa da sonras\u0131nda desteklerini esirgemedi.<\/p>\n

Dersim\u2019de \u00e7ok mu kripto Ermeni var? <\/strong>Osmanl\u0131\u2019da \u0130ttihat ve Terraki anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n yayg\u0131nla\u015fmas\u0131ndan sonra Dersimli Ermeniler, Dersim\u2019de Alevili\u011fi tercih ederek ya\u015famaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Ancak Dersim\u2019de \u00e7ok say\u0131da Ermeni fertleri K\u00fcrt Alevi A\u015firetleri i\u00e7inde kendini ifade etmeye \u00e7al\u0131yor. Objektif bir say\u0131ya ula\u015fmak \u00e7ok zor.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Halen T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de sergilenen g\u00f6reli \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck Ermenilerin k\u00f6klerine d\u00f6nmelerini sa\u011fl\u0131yor mu? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>Hay\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ya\u015fayan gayri M\u00fcslimlere y\u00f6nelik \u2018\u00f6teki\u2019 yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde devam ediyor. Devlet kurumlar\u0131 halen Ermenilere y\u00f6nelik inkarc\u0131 ve \u00f6tekile\u015ftirici yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcyor. D\u00f6nme Ermeniler kimli\u011fine d\u00f6nm\u00fc\u015f olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen Ermeni okullar\u0131nda okuma \u015fans\u0131 olmuyor.\u00a0 Rahip santaro, Zirve yay\u0131nevi katliam\u0131 ve Hrant Dink\u2019in katledilmesi AKP iktidar\u0131 d\u00f6neminde ya\u015fand\u0131. Y\u00fczle\u015fmeyi sa\u011flayacak bir yarg\u0131lama s\u00fcreci de ya\u015fanmad\u0131. Devletin \u00fcst kimli\u011fe sahip olmas\u0131 d\u00f6nme Ermenilerinin \u00f6z\u00fcne d\u00f6nmesini engelliyor.<\/p>\n

\u0130stanbul\u2019da insanlar\u0131n kimliklerine d\u00f6nmeleri ba\u015fka yerlerden daha kolay oluyor. Dersim\u2019de kolay m\u0131 aceba?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u0130stanbul\u2019da ya\u015fayanlarda daha zor durumlar\u0131. \u015eimdiye kadar hi\u00e7 ya\u015fanmad\u0131.<\/p>\n

Devlet \u00a0ve Dersimli K\u00fcrtler, Ermenilerin kimliklerine d\u00f6nmelerine nas\u0131l davran\u0131yorlar? <\/strong>Dersim\u2019de hi\u00e7 denenmi\u015f bir yol de\u011fil. Bu nedenle fazla fikir sahibi de\u011filim.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

\u00a0 Dersim Ermenileri \u0130nan\u00e7 ve Sosyal Yard\u0131mla\u015fma Derne\u011fi Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin, Bat\u0131 Ermenistan ve Bat\u0131 Ermenileri Sorunlar\u0131 Ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar Merkezi\u2019ne \u015fu s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi verdi: \u00a0 Say\u0131n Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin, Ermenistanl\u0131lar, Derne\u011finizin \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ilgi g\u00f6steriyorlar. Pek \u00f6nemli bir giri\u015fimde bulunmu\u015fsunuz. Derne\u011fi kurma d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesinin nas\u0131l ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z? Aile ya\u015fam\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7inde bilinen kimli\u011fimizle b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fck ve […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,22,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4121","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gunumuzde-bati-ermenileri","category-gunumuzde-bati-ermenistan","category-haberler"],"yoast_head":"\nMiran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin'le s\u00f6yle\u015fimiz - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=4121\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin'le s\u00f6yle\u015fimiz - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u00a0 Dersim Ermenileri \u0130nan\u00e7 ve Sosyal Yard\u0131mla\u015fma Derne\u011fi Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin, Bat\u0131 Ermenistan ve Bat\u0131 Ermenileri Sorunlar\u0131 Ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar Merkezi\u2019ne \u015fu s\u00f6yle\u015fiyi verdi: \u00a0 Say\u0131n Miran P\u0131rgic G\u00fcltekin, Ermenistanl\u0131lar, Derne\u011finizin \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ilgi g\u00f6steriyorlar. 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