{"id":39587,"date":"2016-04-20T03:23:25","date_gmt":"2016-04-20T08:23:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=39587"},"modified":"2016-04-20T03:23:25","modified_gmt":"2016-04-20T08:23:25","slug":"erzurumda-efsanelerde-kalan-ermeniler","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=39587","title":{"rendered":"Erzurum&#8217;da efsanelerde kalan Ermeniler"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=39588\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39588\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-39588\" alt=\"Erzurum Kilise\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/Erzurum-Kilise-300x150.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2016\/04\/Erzurum-Kilise-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2016\/04\/Erzurum-Kilise-600x300.jpg 600w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2016\/04\/Erzurum-Kilise.jpg 620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Aris Nalc\u0131<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>Amac\u0131m\u0131z ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri hep gidilen rotalar\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda turistik veya s\u00f6zl\u00fc tarih\u00e7ilerin \u00e7ok da gitmedi\u011fi rotalara gitmekti. Erzurum&#8217;da Merkez&#8217;den sonra k\u00f6ylere y\u00f6neliyoruz.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Garin b\u00f6lgesi tarihi boyunca Ermeni krall\u0131klar\u0131na ev sahipli\u011fi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan \u00e7evre k\u00f6ylerde \u00e7ok fazla yap\u0131 oldu\u011fu biliniyor. En az\u0131ndan kaynaklarda ge\u00e7iyor. Biz de merkeze yak\u0131n yerlerden ba\u015fl\u0131yoruz. K\u00f6ylerin \u00e7o\u011funda bizi defineci san\u0131yorlar. \u00d6nce a\u011fz\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 biraz yoklad\u0131ktan sonra kiliseyi veya mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6steriyorlar. Definecilik Erzurum&#8217;da bir efsane olarak di\u011fer kentlerdeki gibi yay\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Alt\u0131n bulan ailelerin isimleri bile halk aras\u0131nda dola\u015f\u0131mda. \u0130sim vermesek de zaman\u0131nda Ermeni kuyumcular\u0131n yo\u011funlukta oldu\u011fu Erzurum&#8217;un me\u015fhur 1,5 kilometre uzunlu\u011fundaki \u00e7ar\u015f\u0131n\u0131n en zengin kuyumcular\u0131ndan biri i\u00e7in iki farkl\u0131 ki\u015fiden \u015fu hikayeyi duydum:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i>&#8220;Onlar Ermeni. Zaten bu Ermenilerin imza kampanyas\u0131na da imza vermi\u015fler. O kampanyaya Erzurum\u2019dan 300 imza \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131 onlar\u0131n hepsi de i\u015fte o Ermenilerden. Zaman\u0131nda gitmi\u015fler Ermenistan&#8217;da akrabalar\u0131n\u0131 bulmu\u015flar, onlar da alt\u0131nlar\u0131n yerini s\u00f6ylemi\u015f. \u00d6yle zengin olmu\u015flar.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00d6te yandan Erzurum&#8217;un tah\u0131l deposu Pasinler il\u00e7esi yolu boyunca arsalar\u0131 15 kilometre s\u00fcren k\u00f6y\u00fcn a\u011falar\u0131n\u0131n da yan k\u00f6ydeki Ermenilerin arazilerin konarak zengin oldu\u011fu anlat\u0131lan efsanelerden:\u00a0<i>&#8220;Onlar\u0131n kap\u0131s\u0131ndan ekmek yemeyen yoktur&#8221;\u00a0<\/i>diyor \u015fof\u00f6r\u00fcm\u00fcz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Gezk\u00f6y, Surp Minas<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Patrikhane kay\u0131tlar\u0131na g\u00f6re 1915 \u00f6ncesinde 1103 Ermeni\u00a0<i>(144 hane)\u00a0<\/i>ve 170 T\u00fcrk n\u00fcfusun bulundu\u011fu k\u00f6yde bug\u00fcn kimse ya\u015fam\u0131yor. Erzurum havaliman\u0131 yolundaki k\u00f6y tam otoban kenar\u0131nda kald\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan ve kilise de k\u00f6y\u00fcn otobandan g\u00f6r\u00fcnen taraf\u0131nda oldu\u011fundan uzun bir s\u00fcre definecilerin istilas\u0131na u\u011fram\u0131\u015f. Sonra TOK\u0130 gelmi\u015f ve yazl\u0131k site yapaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yleyip t\u00fcm binalar\u0131 tek tek sat\u0131n alm\u0131\u015f. \u015eimdi k\u00f6yde bir tek bina bile yok. K\u00f6ydeki evleri y\u0131kmaya gelen kep\u00e7eler bu y\u0131k\u0131m s\u00fcreci boyunca Surp Minas Kilisesi&#8217;nin etraf\u0131n\u0131 da delik de\u015fik etmek i\u00e7in kullan\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. K\u00f6y\u00fcn ileri gelenlerinden biri bizi de defineci san\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Y\u00fczlerce delikle k\u00f6stebek yuvas\u0131na d\u00f6nen kilisenin i\u00e7i ve \u00e7evresi \u015fimdi An\u0131tlar Kurulu&#8217;nun ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 kararla k\u0131smen korunuyor. Camlar\u0131na tu\u011fla \u00f6r\u00fclmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ama kap\u0131s\u0131 hala a\u00e7\u0131k. Khoran&#8217;daki (mihrab) Aziz resminin bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc halen g\u00f6r\u00fclebiliyor ancak yap\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6nlem al\u0131nmaz ise k\u0131sa s\u00fcrede yok olaca\u011f\u0131 belli.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yazl\u0131k sitelerine bir an \u00f6nce kavu\u015fmak isteyen y\u00f6re halk\u0131 da kilise y\u0131k\u0131lamad\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan in\u015faatlar\u0131n k\u0131smen durmas\u0131ndan duydu\u011fu k\u0131zg\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 her f\u0131rsatta kiliseden \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yor gibi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Yolge\u00e7ti &#8211; Tsitho\u011fig<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Sevan N\u0131\u015fanyan&#8217;\u0131n haritas\u0131ndan \u00f6\u011frendi\u011fimize g\u00f6re Bu rotadaki k\u00f6ylerden biri de &#8216;Tsitho\u011f&#8217;\u00a0<i>(tahminimce zeytinlik anlam\u0131nda kullan\u0131lm\u0131\u015f)\u00a0<\/i>k\u00f6yl\u00fcler\u00a0<i>Tsitho\u011fug\u00a0<\/i>\u00a0diyor. Erzurum&#8217;da k\u00f6y isimlerini de\u011fi\u015ftirme mazisi hen\u00fcz \u00e7ok yeni. K\u00f6yl\u00fclerin dedi\u011fine g\u00f6re 6-7 y\u0131l. Kimsenin k\u00f6ylerin eski isimlerini kullanmaktan \u00e7ekindi\u011fi de yok, rahats\u0131z oldu\u011fu da. Ben Yolge\u00e7ti&#8217;yi sorduk\u00e7a onlar Tsitho\u011fug&#8217;u anlat\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">K\u00f6y\u00fc gezerken eski, tek katl\u0131 bir Ermeni yap\u0131s\u0131na rastl\u0131yoruz. Reymond Kevorkian&#8217;\u0131n Ermeniler kitab\u0131ndaki k\u00f6y okulu ile t\u0131pat\u0131p benziyor. Tek de\u011fi\u015fen demir do\u011frama pencereler ve kap\u0131lar. Okul da\u011f\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. \u00c7ocuklar \u00f6n\u00fcnde &#8216;yakar top&#8217; oynuyorlar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Kimse i\u00e7eri girmemizi yad\u0131rgam\u0131yor. Erzurum&#8217;un so\u011fuk k\u0131\u015f g\u00fcne\u015finin s\u0131cakl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor \u00e7ocuklar bizi. \u0130\u00e7imiz biraz da olsa \u0131s\u0131n\u0131yor onlar\u0131n g\u00fcl\u00fcc\u00fckleriyle.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Okulun kar\u015f\u0131s\u0131ndan iki ya\u015fl\u0131 amca \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor d\u0131\u015far\u0131 bizi kar\u015f\u0131lamaya.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">-Ho\u015f geldiniz<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">-Ho\u015f bulduk.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">-Nedir bu bina amca.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">-Eski okulmu\u015f \u00e7ok eskiden. Ermenilerden kalma.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Bu k\u00f6y Ermenilerin mi?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; He buradaki k\u00f6ylerin y\u00fczde 80 &#8211; 90&#8217;\u0131 Ermenilerden kalmad\u0131r. Buran\u0131n ad\u0131 da\u00a0<i>&#8216;Tsitavu\u011f.&#8217;<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i>&#8211;\u00a0<\/i>O ne demek?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Ermenice. Buralar\u0131n isimleri hepsi Ermenice, yeni de\u011fi\u015fti. Ermenilerden kalma buralar. Kilise varm\u0131\u015f \u015fimdi y\u0131k\u0131ld\u0131. Mezarl\u0131k yol \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015f\u0131nda. Ermeniler dedelerimizi alm\u0131\u015flar &#8216;<i>Ardzvi<\/i>&#8216;ye g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp yakm\u0131\u015flar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; Ardzvi?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; O da Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hayretler i\u00e7inde amcan\u0131n Ermenice &#8216;ts&#8217; ve &#8216;tz&#8217; harflerini ne kadar rahat kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 dinliyorum. Ermenice terimleri gayet iyi biliyor ve konu\u015fuyor. Onu bu konuda daha \u00e7ok zorlamaya g\u00f6nl\u00fcm el vermiyor. Ermenice&#8217;yi bu denli d\u00fczg\u00fcn konu\u015fmay\u0131 tahminen ailesinden \u00f6\u011frendi. Ermenilerle birlikte ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 birka\u00e7 kez hat\u0131rlat\u0131yor bana konu\u015fmam\u0131z s\u0131ras\u0131nda.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bir s\u00fcre sustuktan sonra tekrar ba\u015fl\u0131yor:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">&#8211; G\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcp yakm\u0131\u015flar, kesmi\u015fler&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Mudurga, M\u00fcd\u00fcrge, \u00c7ay\u0131rtepe<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Erzurum&#8217;un kuzeyindeki merkeze yak\u0131n Ermeni k\u00f6ylerinden biri de Mudurga. \u015eimdiki ad\u0131 \u00c7ay\u0131rtepe, k\u00f6yl\u00fcler ise M\u00fcd\u00fcrge olarak kullan\u0131yorlar. Burada Surp Kevork Manast\u0131r\u0131, Surp Agop ve Surp S\u0131rpots Nahadagats (\u015fehitler kilisesi) oldu\u011fu yaz\u0131yor Ermeni kaynaklar\u0131nda. Bug\u00fcn ise bu kiliselerin sadece ta\u015flar\u0131 kalm\u0131\u015f, o ta\u015flar ise\u00a0 k\u00f6y\u00fcn evlerinin \u00e7e\u015fitli yerlerinde kullan\u0131l\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>K\u00f6pr\u00fc K\u00f6y<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ermenice ad\u0131 Hovvi Gamur\u00e7 (\u00c7oban k\u00f6pr\u00fcs\u00fc) olan k\u00f6y Pasinler giri\u015finde. K\u00f6pr\u00fcn\u00fcn hemen yan\u0131ndaki k\u00f6y bug\u00fcn bir Alevi k\u00f6y\u00fc. Gen\u00e7 bir k\u00f6yl\u00fc burada bulunan Meryemana Kilisesi&#8217;nin bug\u00fcn bir Alevi dedenin mezar\u0131n\u0131n bulundu\u011fu tepe oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Kiliseyle ilgili herhangi bir kal\u0131nt\u0131 bulunmasa da adak yeri olarak kullan\u0131lan bu tepeye k\u00f6yde herkse Meryem Ana tepesi diyor.<br \/>\n<b>Arus K\u00f6y\u00fc<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Erzurum&#8217;un en geni\u015f Ermeni yerle\u015fim yerlerinden biri de Mu\u015f s\u0131n\u0131r\u0131ndaki H\u0131n\u0131s. H\u0131n\u0131s giri\u015finde K\u00fcrt\u00e7e T\u00fcrk\u00e7e ho\u015f geldiniz tabelas\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor gelenleri. H\u0131n\u0131s&#8217;ta bulunan Ermeni k\u00f6ylerinde ayakta kalabilenlerin say\u0131s\u0131 ise \u00e7ok az.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bunlardan biri Arus k\u00f6y\u00fc.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u015eimdiki ad\u0131 Yol\u00fcst\u00fc. K\u00fcrt n\u00fcfusun yo\u011funlukta oldu\u011fu k\u00f6ydekilerin b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu son 10 y\u0131lda g\u00f6\u00e7 etmi\u015f. 70 haneli k\u00f6ydeki en eskilerden Mustafa amca ise yerli olmamas\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131n k\u00f6y\u00fcn Ermeni ge\u00e7mi\u015finden haberdar. Mustafa amca k\u00f6y\u00fcn ad\u0131n\u0131n buradaki Ermeni gelinden geldi\u011fini anlat\u0131yor. Ba\u015fkalar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ekinerek yerini g\u00f6stermek istemedi\u011fi Surp Sarkis Kilisesi&#8217;nden kalanlar\u0131 g\u00f6steriyor bize.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">K\u00f6y\u00fcn s\u0131rt\u0131n\u0131 dayad\u0131\u011f\u0131 da\u011fa oyulmu\u015f kaya i\u00e7i adak yerlerini, Ermenilerden kalan evleri bizlere g\u00f6steriyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c7o\u011fu delik de\u015fik olmu\u015f bu evler Ermeni mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131na bak\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Yol kenar\u0131nda kalan mezarl\u0131ktan ise tek bir iz bile yok&#8230;<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"center\">\n<hr align=\"center\" size=\"2\" width=\"100%\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>Arta Kalan Projesi\u00a0<\/i><\/b><i>A\u00e7\u0131k Toplum Vakf\u0131, Heinrich B\u00f6ll Stiftung Derne\u011fi T\u00fcrkiye Temsilcili\u011fi, Calouste Gulbenkian Vakf\u0131, Aziz Surp Tur ve Ermeni K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc ve Dayan\u0131\u015fma Derne\u011fi taraf\u0131ndan desteklenmi\u015ftir.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i>Foto\u011fraflar:\u00a0<b>Umut Vedat<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>http:\/\/t24.com.tr\/yazarlar\/aris-nalci\/erzurumda-efsanelerde-kalan-ermeniler,14359?utm_medium=social&amp;utm_content=sharebutton<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aris Nalc\u0131 Amac\u0131m\u0131z ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri hep gidilen rotalar\u0131n d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda turistik veya s\u00f6zl\u00fc tarih\u00e7ilerin \u00e7ok da gitmedi\u011fi rotalara gitmekti. Erzurum&#8217;da Merkez&#8217;den sonra k\u00f6ylere y\u00f6neliyoruz. Garin b\u00f6lgesi tarihi boyunca Ermeni krall\u0131klar\u0131na ev sahipli\u011fi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan \u00e7evre k\u00f6ylerde \u00e7ok fazla yap\u0131 oldu\u011fu biliniyor. En az\u0131ndan kaynaklarda ge\u00e7iyor. Biz de merkeze yak\u0131n yerlerden ba\u015fl\u0131yoruz. 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