{"id":39103,"date":"2016-03-17T02:24:15","date_gmt":"2016-03-17T07:24:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=39103"},"modified":"2016-03-17T02:24:15","modified_gmt":"2016-03-17T07:24:15","slug":"vatansiz-tek-ulus-cingeneler-ve-cingenelerin-ermenilesmisleri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=39103","title":{"rendered":"Vatans\u0131z Tek Ulus \u00c7ingeneler ve \u00c7ingenelerin Ermenile\u015fmi\u015fleri"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=39104\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-39104\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-39104\" alt=\"Cingene\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/Cingene-300x204.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2016\/03\/Cingene-300x204.jpg 300w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2016\/03\/Cingene-600x409.jpg 600w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2016\/03\/Cingene.jpg 793w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>SARK\u0130S SEROPYAN<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>D\u00fcnyada yakla\u015f\u0131k 3 milyon \u00c7ingene ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 san\u0131l\u0131yor. Avrupa&#8217;da 780.000 civar\u0131nda \u00c7ingene ya\u015famakta. Avrupa&#8217;ya ge\u00e7en \u00c7ingeneler&#8217;in ser\u00fcvenlerini bir yana b\u0131rak\u0131p Anadolu&#8217;dakileri ele al\u0131rsak, say\u0131lar\u0131 67.000 olarak tespit edilmi\u015f. V\u0131rtanes Papazyan&#8217;\u0131n ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar\u0131na g\u00f6re, bunlar\u0131n 50.000&#8217;i Hay-Po\u015fa.<\/i><\/b><b><i><br \/>\n<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Anadolu&#8217;nun hemen her taraf\u0131nda Hay-Po\u015falar&#8217;a rastlan\u0131yor. Vaspurakan b\u00f6lgesi d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda Ermenilerin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 her yere yerle\u015fmi\u015fler, ancak b\u00fcy\u00fck bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc Sivas b\u00f6lgesinde (Vezirk\u00f6pr\u00fc&#8217;den Boyabat ve Kastamonu&#8217;ya kadar) ya\u015f\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Gizli \u0130\u015faretler<\/b><br \/>\nPo\u015falar&#8217;in g\u00f6\u00e7ederken, ilk kez ayak bast\u0131klar\u0131 topraklarda gayet rahat ve emin yer de\u011fi\u015ftirmelerinin, konaklama yerlerini bulmalar\u0131n\u0131n, dost veya d\u00fc\u015fman toplumlar\u0131 kolayca ay\u0131rt etmelerinin s\u0131rr\u0131 zor da olsa \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclebilmi\u015f. G\u00f6\u00e7 eden \u00c7ingene gruplar\u0131, ge\u00e7tikleri yollarda duvarlara, aga\u00e7 g\u00f6vdelerine yaln\u0131zca &#8216;kendi \u0131rkda\u015flar\u0131n\u0131n anlayabildi\u011fi \u00f6zel i\u015faretler b\u0131rak\u0131rlar.<br \/>\nBunlardan birincisi ve en \u00e7ok kullan\u0131lan\u0131 &#8220;\u00dc\u00e7 Kollu&#8221; olup, i\u015faretin sap\u0131 gidilebilecek istikameti g\u00f6steriyor. Eski bir Budist i\u015fareti olan ikincisine \u00c7ingeneler &#8220;Svastika&#8221; diyorlar ve yolun kapal\u0131 veya tehlikeli oldu\u011funu belirtiyor. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fcs\u00fc; ha\u00e7\u0131n sap\u0131 yine gidilmesi gereken y\u00f6n\u00fc g\u00f6steriyor. Daha ziyade T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de g\u00f6r\u00fclen d\u00f6rd\u00fcnc\u00fc i\u015faret ise yolun gayet tehlikeli ve \u00c7ingeneler i\u00e7in \u00f6l\u00fcmle sonu\u00e7lanabilir oldu\u011funu g\u00f6steriyor. \u0130\u015faretler bu kadar de\u011fil, pek \u00e7ok anlam\u0131 olanlar\u0131 var.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Hay-Po\u015falar&#8217;\u0131n k\u00f6kenleri<\/b><br \/>\nGer\u00e7i Hay-Po\u015falar Avrupa ve Asya&#8217;daki di\u011fer uluslar aras\u0131nda g\u00f6\u00e7ebe ya\u015fayan tziganlardan farkl\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar, fakat ikisi aras\u0131nda yap\u0131lacak dikkatli bir tetkik sonucunda gelenek g\u00f6renek, antropoloji hatta dilde b\u00fcy\u00fck benzerlikler bulunabilir. G\u00f6r\u00fcnen farklar Po\u015falar&#8217;\u0131n Anadolu&#8217;ya gelmeden \u00f6nce y\u00fczy\u0131llardan beri birlikte ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 di\u011fer halklara mal edilebilir.<br \/>\nDaha \u00f6nce de belirtti\u011fimiz gibi \u00c7ingeneler farkl\u0131 g\u00f6\u00e7 yollar\u0131 izleyerek y\u00fczy\u0131llar sonra Anadolu&#8217;da bulu\u015ftuklar\u0131nda farkl\u0131 toplumlar\u0131n g\u00f6reneklerinden etkilenerek farkl\u0131 \u00e7ehreler kazanm\u0131\u015flar. Isl\u00e2mli\u011fi benimseyen tziganlar \u00c7ingene, Ermenilerle ya\u015fayip Hiristiyan olanlar ise Hay-Po\u015fa ad\u0131n\u0131 alm\u0131\u015f. Bu sonuncular giderek Ermeni gelenek ve g\u00f6reneklerini benimsemi\u015fler. Po\u015falar&#8217;\u0131n \u0130ran&#8217;da uzun s\u00fcre kald\u0131klari da bilinmekte. Pers \u00fclkesinde Tziganlar&#8217;a &#8220;Luri&#8221;, &#8220;Mitrip&#8221;, &#8220;Kara\u00e7i&#8221; adlar\u0131 verilmi\u015f. Onlara &#8220;Po\u015fa&#8221; ad\u0131n\u0131 verenler Ermeniler. \u0130smin k\u00f6keni ise Po\u015f=bo\u015f&#8221; (bo\u015fgezen) olabilir ve bu ad s\u00fcrekli a\u015fa\u011f\u0131lamak i\u00e7in kullan\u0131lm\u0131\u015f, zira Ermeni dilinde \u00c7ingene-Tzigan s\u00f6zc\u00fcg\u00fcn\u00fcn kars\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 eskiden beri &#8220;Kin\u00e7u&#8221; olup Po\u015fa s\u00f6zc\u00fcg\u00fc sonradan, 19. y\u00fczy\u0131lda benimsenmi\u015f.<br \/>\nBirtakim arast\u0131rmac\u0131lar (P. Nerses Sarkisyan) Po\u015falar&#8217;\u0131n &#8220;Tontragetziler&#8221;in (Tend\u00fcrekliler bir sapk\u0131n Ermeni tarikati) ve\/veya Arevortiler&#8217;in (Vantzyan, G\u00fcne\u015f o\u011fullar\u0131 G\u00fcne\u015fe tapan bir tarikat) kal\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 oldu\u011funu tahmin ederler. Bu arada Kalkedon konsili nedeniyle Ermeni Kilisesi&#8217;nden ger\u00e7eklesen kopmalar nedeniyle Kastamonu-Sinop aras\u0131nda ya\u015fayan Ermeni k\u00f6kenli halka da Po\u015fa denildigi de biliniyor.<br \/>\nErmenilerde Po\u015falar aleyhine bir y\u0131\u011f\u0131n s\u00f6ylence var. Bunca a\u015fa\u011f\u0131lamaya ve de kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 &#8220;akrabal\u0131ktan ka\u00e7\u0131nma&#8221; k\u0131z al\u0131p vermeme gayretlerine kar\u015f\u0131n Po\u015falar&#8217;\u0131n s\u00fcrt\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fc t\u00fcm di\u011fer uluslardan farkl\u0131 olarak Ermenilerle kayna\u015f\u0131p bir arada ya\u015fayabilmi\u015f olmas\u0131 ger\u00e7ekten ilgin\u00e7. Her seye ra\u011fmen Po\u015falar&#8217;\u0131n Ermenilere (20. y\u00fczy\u0131l ba\u015flar\u0131nda) k\u0131z al\u0131p vermesi ender rastlanan olaylardan.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Bar\u0131nak<\/b><br \/>\nK\u0131\u015f bast\u0131r\u0131nca Po\u015falar yak\u0131n k\u00f6ylere veya kentlere dolu\u015fup kiralad\u0131klar\u0131 kul\u00fcbelere yerle\u015fir, birbirine yak\u0131n ya\u015farlar. K\u00f6y evlerinde, &#8220;kom&#8221; yani art\u0131k ailenin \u00f6nemli ferdi say\u0131labilecek e\u015fe\u011fin bulundugu a\u011f\u0131lda mutlaka bir tand\u0131r yer alir. Tand\u0131r hem ekmek hem yemek pi\u015firmeye ve de \u0131s\u0131nmaya yarar, \u00f6yle ki i\u015fler bitip ate\u015f s\u00f6nd\u00fckten sonra aile halk\u0131 tand\u0131r\u0131n i\u00e7ine ayaklar\u0131n\u0131 sark\u0131t\u0131p, \u00e7epe\u00e7evre oturur ve bacaklar\u0131n\u0131 ortak bir \u00f6rt\u00fcyle \u00f6rterek \u0131s\u0131n\u0131rlar. Evin ilgin\u00e7 bir yan\u0131 da bir duvarda yer alan ve &#8220;santo&#8221; ad\u0131 verilen &#8220;ocak&#8221;t\u0131r. Ocakta haftada bir kez, o da \u0131s\u0131nmak i\u00e7in degil de, ailenin \u00f6len fertlerine sayg\u0131 i\u00e7in ate\u015f yak\u0131l\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Yeme-i\u00e7me<\/b><br \/>\nPo\u015falar \u00f6b\u00fcr olup s\u00fcrekli ve zamanl\u0131 zamans\u0131z bir\u015feyler yerler. Ac\u0131, ek\u015fi, baharatl\u0131, yak\u0131c\u0131 yemekleri tercih eder, sar\u0131msak, biber ve sirkeyi eksik etmez sofras\u0131ndan. Az et yerler, en sevdikleri yemekler &#8220;malez&#8221; ve &#8220;pilav&#8221;dir. Ulusal yemekleri say\u0131lan malez, hamur ve ya\u011fla haz\u0131rlan\u0131r ve Vaspurakanl\u0131lar\u0131n (Van y\u00f6resi) &#8220;khavidz&#8221;ine benzer; Hamuru s\u0131cak suya atar s\u00fcrekli kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131rarak pi\u015firir, sonra par\u00e7alara ay\u0131r\u0131p \u00fczerine ya\u011f ekler ve yerler. \u00c7irli (kurutulmu\u015f meyve) pilav\u0131 \u00e7ok severler. \u00c7irli pilav ve Tsi-vadzeg (yumurtaya bat\u0131r\u0131lm\u0131\u015f k\u0131zart\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ekmek) ziyafetlerde \u00f6zg\u00fcn yemek olarak sofraya getirilir.<br \/>\nYemeklerde erkekler kad\u0131n ve \u00e7ocuklardan ayr\u0131 otururlar sofraya ve i\u00e7kilerden yaln\u0131zca rak\u0131 i\u00e7er, bira veya \u015farap kullanmazlar. Erkekler ve ya\u015fl\u0131 kad\u0131nlar t\u00fct\u00fcn ve enfiye kullan\u0131r, ancak \u00c7ingene ve Tzigan kad\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131n aksine Po\u015fa kad\u0131nlar t\u00fct\u00fcn i\u00e7meyi ay\u0131p sayarlar.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Faiz yok<\/b><br \/>\nPo\u015falar bir\u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc al\u0131\u015fkanl\u0131klar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131n, para al\u0131\u015fveri\u015flerinde \u00e7ok d\u00fcr\u00fcst olup s\u00f6ze \u00f6nem verirler. Yaln\u0131zca s\u00f6ze dayanarak bor\u00e7 al\u0131p verir. Ancak &#8220;faiz&#8221; mefhumunu kesinlikle tan\u0131maz, ne faiz verir, ne de al\u0131r ve kendi zarar\u0131na da olsa s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc veya yeminini mutlaka yerine getirir.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>(Agos)<\/i><\/b><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/team-aow.discuforum.info\/t6203-Ermeni-Cingenelri.htm?start=15\"><b><i>http:\/\/team-aow.discuforum.info\/t6203-Ermeni-Cingenelri.htm?start=15<\/i><\/b><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SARK\u0130S SEROPYAN D\u00fcnyada yakla\u015f\u0131k 3 milyon \u00c7ingene ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 san\u0131l\u0131yor. Avrupa&#8217;da 780.000 civar\u0131nda \u00c7ingene ya\u015famakta. Avrupa&#8217;ya ge\u00e7en \u00c7ingeneler&#8217;in ser\u00fcvenlerini bir yana b\u0131rak\u0131p Anadolu&#8217;dakileri ele al\u0131rsak, say\u0131lar\u0131 67.000 olarak tespit edilmi\u015f. V\u0131rtanes Papazyan&#8217;\u0131n ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar\u0131na g\u00f6re, bunlar\u0131n 50.000&#8217;i Hay-Po\u015fa. Anadolu&#8217;nun hemen her taraf\u0131nda Hay-Po\u015falar&#8217;a rastlan\u0131yor. Vaspurakan b\u00f6lgesi d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda Ermenilerin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 her yere yerle\u015fmi\u015fler, ancak b\u00fcy\u00fck bir b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc Sivas [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,70,53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-39103","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-haberler","category-makaleler","category-turkiyede-azinliklar"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Vatans\u0131z Tek Ulus \u00c7ingeneler ve \u00c7ingenelerin Ermenile\u015fmi\u015fleri - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=39103\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Vatans\u0131z Tek Ulus \u00c7ingeneler ve \u00c7ingenelerin Ermenile\u015fmi\u015fleri - Bati Ermenistan Ve Bati Ermenileri Sorunlari Ara\u015ftirmalar Merkezi\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"SARK\u0130S SEROPYAN D\u00fcnyada yakla\u015f\u0131k 3 milyon \u00c7ingene ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 san\u0131l\u0131yor. 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