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Mikail Aslan<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

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Mikail Aslan, 1972 y\u0131l\u0131nda Dersim\/Xozat\u2019da do\u011fdu. On ya\u015f\u0131na geldi\u011finde, ailesi ile birlikte Kayseri\u2019ye g\u00f6\u00e7 etti. Malatya \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde matematik okumaya ba\u015flad\u0131. \u0130ki sene sonra, politik nedenlerden dolay\u0131 \u00fcniversiteden uzakla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131. Bu d<\/em>\u00f6nemden itibaren hayat\u0131na m\u00fczik ile y\u00f6n verdi. Zazaca yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 ilk eserlerini, Grup Munzur ve Grup Tohum\u2019da seslendirdi. 1994 y\u0131l\u0131nda Amanya\u2019ya yerle\u015fti. Mainz kentinde Peter Cornelius Konsevatuar\u0131\u2019nda klasik gitar \u00f6\u011fretmenli\u011finden mezun oldu. Anadilindeki ilk solo alb\u00fcm\u00fc Agereyis (D\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f-1999) ile hayat buldu. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda, Kilit\u00ea Kou (Da\u011flar\u0131n Anahtar\u0131-2003), M\u00eeraz (Maya-2005), Zernkut (Simya-2008), Petag (Dersim Ermeni Halk \ufb01ark\u0131lar\u0131-2010) ve Pelguzar (2010) ad\u0131nda be\u015f alb\u00fcm\u00fc mevcuttur.<\/em><\/p>\n

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BELG\u0130N CENG\u0130Z<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Dersim Ermeni \ufb01ark\u0131lar\u0131 projesi nas\u0131l ba\u015flad\u0131, sizi bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya ne y\u00f6nlendirdi?<\/p>\n

Bunun a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131n\u0131 alb\u00fcm\u00fcn sunu\u015f yaz\u0131s\u0131nda yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, \u201ckainatta yank\u0131lanm\u0131\u015f hi\u00e7bir ses kaybolmaz\u201d diye… Dersim\u2019de Ermenilerin k\u00f6kl\u00fc bir ge\u00e7mi\u015fe sahip olduklar\u0131n\u0131, orada ge\u00e7en \u00e7ocukluk y\u0131llar\u0131mdan, b\u00fcy\u00fcklerimizin anlat\u0131mlar\u0131ndan az \u00e7ok biliyordum. Son y\u00fczy\u0131la kadar diri olan bir varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n, b\u00f6yle k\u0131sa bir zamanda nas\u0131l bu kadar silik duruma getirildi\u011fi beynimi kurcalayan bir soruydu. Zamanla 1915 ger\u00e7e\u011fini \u00f6\u011frendik\u00e7e, merak etti\u011fim cevaplar\u0131 bulmaya ba\u015flad\u0131m. Dersim \u00fczerine Ermenice kaynaklar\u0131 inceleyen dostum Hovsep Hayreni ile sohbetlerimde b\u00f6lgemize ili\u015fkin bilgiler edindim. O, her g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmemizde bana elindeki kitaplardan ilgin\u00e7 pasajlar okuyor, Ermenice yaz\u0131l\u0131 haritalardan k\u00f6ylerimizin, da\u011flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n, derelerimizin orijinal isimleri ve anlamlar\u0131n\u0131 aktar\u0131yordu. B\u00f6ylece yak\u0131n k\u00f6ylerimizden olan Sorpiyan\u2019\u0131n asl\u0131nda \u2018Surp Ohan\u2019 (Aziz Ohan), Ergen\u2019in asl\u0131nda \u2018Yergan Inguzak\u2019 (uzun ceviz a\u011fac\u0131), Tavuk denen ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fclerek alay konusu edilen bizim k\u00f6y ile yasland\u0131\u011f\u0131 da\u011f\u0131n ad\u0131n\u0131n ise asl\u0131nda Ermenice \u2018Tavug\u2019 ya da \u2018Tavud\u2019 oldu\u011funu (s\u0131k ormanl\u0131k, yo\u011fun koruluk) \u00f6\u011freniyordum. B\u00f6yle derin k\u00f6klere sahip bir uygarl\u0131k ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn zaman i\u00e7inde yank\u0131lanm\u0131\u015f sesleri de kay\u0131p olamazd\u0131. Bir m\u00fczisyen olarak, Dersim\u2019in, Zazaca otantik ezgilerini derleme ve anadilimde yeni eserler verme \u00e7abas\u0131n\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fcr\u00fcrken, tarihleri bizimle bu kadar i\u00e7 i\u00e7e kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 etkile\u015fim g\u00f6steren karde\u015f Ermeni halk\u0131n\u0131n yerel m\u00fczi\u011fini de merak ediyordum.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Bu alb\u00fcm \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131nda derleme ama\u00e7l\u0131 se\u00e7ti\u011finiz \u015fark\u0131lara hangi kaynaklardan ula\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z ve se\u00e7kiyi nas\u0131l olu\u015fturdunuz?<\/p>\n

Bel\u00e7ika\u2019dan sevgili dostum Hosvep Hayreni\u2019nin vas\u0131tas\u0131yla Hampartsum Kasparyan\u2019\u0131n \u2018\u00c7\u0131m\u0131\u015fgadzak yev ir K\u00fc\u011fer\u0131 – \u00c7emi\u015fgezek ve K\u00f6yleri\u2019 adl\u0131 kitab\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan haberdar oldum. 1915 soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131ndan ka\u00e7\u0131p Amerika\u2019ya s\u0131\u011f\u0131nan \u00c7emi\u015fgezekli Bagikyan ve Celalyan soyad\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yan ailelerin beraberinde g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc halk ezgileri, Komitas Okulu\u2019ndan de\u011ferli Muzikolog Mihran Tumatchyan taraf\u0131ndan notaya al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131.\u00a0 Ilda Simonian\u2019\u0131n da ar\u015fivindeki \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 benimle payla\u015fmas\u0131 akabinde,\u00a0 Dersim ve \u00e7evresine ait yakla\u015f\u0131k 100\u2019e yak\u0131n esere ula\u015fm\u0131\u015f olduk. Pilot kay\u0131tlar\u0131 m\u00fczisyen arkada\u015f\u0131m Cebrail Kal\u0131n ile beraber ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdik. Alb\u00fcm\u00fcn y\u00f6netmenli\u011fini Levent G\u00fcne\u015f, aranjelerini Levent G\u00fcne\u015f ve Cebrail Kal\u0131n \u00fcstlendi.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Ermeni t\u00fcrk\u00fclerini de\u011ferlendirirsek Anadolu ezgileri b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc i\u00e7inde nas\u0131l bir yerde tan\u0131mlars\u0131n\u0131z?<\/p>\n

Ermeni m\u00fczi\u011fi anla\u015f\u0131lmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 takdirde Anadolu m\u00fczi\u011fi anla\u015f\u0131lamaz. Halk musikisi \u00fczerinde yo\u011funla\u015fan Maro Muradyan Akunq Ensemle\u2019nin repertuar\u0131n\u0131 dinledi\u011fim s\u0131rada ne kadar b\u00fcy\u00fck bir mirastan yoksun kald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 fark ettim ve hay\u0131fland\u0131m. Duydu\u011fum her melodi beni b\u00fcy\u00fcl\u00fcyor ve Anadolu\u2019nun en sahici, do\u011fal tonlar\u0131n\u0131 dinledik\u00e7e haf\u0131zam\u0131n yar\u0131s\u0131 tamamlan\u0131yor ve tarihsel-k\u00fclt\u00fcrel belle\u011fim bir b\u00fct\u00fcne var\u0131yordu. Anadolu m\u00fczi\u011finin yar\u0131s\u0131ndan \u00e7o\u011funu Ermeni Halk musikisi olu\u015fturuyor.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Alb\u00fcm \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131nda nas\u0131l bir y\u00f6ntem izlediniz ve kimler sizi destekledi?<\/p>\n

M\u00fczisyen arkada\u015f\u0131m Levent G\u00fcne\u015f ile beraber eski Ermeni Halk musikisine dair bir ara\u015ft\u0131rma yapt\u0131k, eski ozanlar\u0131 dinledik. Eserleri \u00e7ok modernle\u015ftirmeden, otantik \u00f6rg\u00fclerine ba\u011fl\u0131 kalarak, sade bir \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma yapmay\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorduk. D\u00fczenlemeleri yaparken; Ermeni halk \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 Dersim\u2019deki genel m\u00fczi\u011fe ve kendi m\u00fczi\u011fimize benzetmemeliyiz kayg\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yorduk. Bu kayg\u0131larla Yerevan\u2019a gidince de\u011ferli a\u011fabeyim Tigran Hekobyan bana \u201cneden bu kadar kurcal\u0131yorsunuz yahu, Ermeni musikisi sizin m\u00fczi\u011finizden farkl\u0131 de\u011fil ki, Anadolu m\u00fczi\u011fi i\u015fte\u201d deyince kafamda \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli bir kayg\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f oldu. Yerevan\u2019da, Samvel Felekyan\u2019\u0131n arac\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 ile Tigran Hekobyan ve Lilit Simonyan ile tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Samvel ve bu arkada\u015flar\u0131n deste\u011fi olmaks\u0131z\u0131n yola devam etmemiz neredeyse imk\u00e2ns\u0131zd\u0131. Akunq Ensemble\u2019den de\u011ferli m\u00fczisyenlerle beraber Yerevan\u2019da bir haftal\u0131k geceli, g\u00fcnd\u00fczl\u00fc \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma y\u00fcr\u00fctt\u00fck. Maro Muradyan Akunq Ensemble ve Norayr Grigoryan\u2019\u0131n de\u011ferli emekleri sonucunda alb\u00fcm\u00fc istedi\u011fimiz noktaya ta\u015f\u0131m\u0131\u015f olduk. Yerevan K\u00fclt\u00fcr Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019ndan de\u011ferli a\u011fabeyimiz Tigran Hekobyan\u2019\u0131n organizasyonu \u00fcstlenmesi ve b\u00fct\u00fcn olanaklar\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131lamas\u0131 ayr\u0131ca takdire de\u011fer bir davran\u0131\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Alb\u00fcm Ermeniler a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan nas\u0131l kar\u015f\u0131land\u0131?<\/p>\n

Bir hafta \u00f6nce Ermenistan\u2019dayd\u0131m. Petag alb\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc beraber yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z Akunq Ensemble ile beraber alb\u00fcm\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc tan\u0131tt\u0131k. Tahmin etti\u011fimizden daha b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ilgi ve sevgi ile kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131k. Hatta konserden sonra Mu\u015f k\u00f6kenli ya\u015fl\u0131 bir kad\u0131n \u201cy\u00fcz y\u0131ld\u0131r sizi bekliyorduk nerde kald\u0131n\u0131z\u201d deyince g\u00f6zya\u015flar\u0131m\u0131 tutamad\u0131m. Alb\u00fcm Ermeni halk\u0131 i\u00e7erisinde \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir yank\u0131 yaratt\u0131. Bana aktar\u0131lan bilgiye g\u00f6re Ermenistan televizyonundaki bir yay\u0131nda alb\u00fcm \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam\u0131z\u0131 de\u011ferlendiren sanat\u00e7\u0131 ve ayd\u0131nlardan biri, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmam\u0131z\u0131 tarihteki Gomidas\u2019\u0131n ruhunu ya\u015fatman\u0131n se\u00e7kin ve g\u00fczel bir \u00f6rne\u011fi olarak takdir etmi\u015f ki bu bizler i\u00e7in \u00e7ok onore edici bir \u015fey.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Dersim k\u00f6kenli tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z Ermeniler var m\u0131? G\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fczde nerelerde ya\u015f\u0131yor ve neler hissediyorlar?<\/p>\n

Her \u015feyden \u00f6nce, soyk\u0131r\u0131mdan kurtularak \u00e7e\u015fitli \u00fclkelere da\u011f\u0131lan Dersimli Ermenilerin torunlar\u0131 d\u00fcnyan\u0131n her taraf\u0131nda var. K\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 izleyen y\u0131llar Halep\u2019te Beyrut\u2019ta, Dersim ve \u00e7evresinden ma\u011fdur g\u00f6\u00e7menlerin, yetimlerin topland\u0131\u011f\u0131 yurtlar, okullar olmu\u015f, bir k\u0131sm\u0131 Sovyet Ermenistan\u0131\u2019nda yeni ya\u015fama ge\u00e7mi\u015f, ABD ve Fransa\u2019da \u00e7e\u015fitli yard\u0131mla\u015fma dernekleri \u00f6rg\u00fctlenmi\u015f. \u0130kincisi, Dersim\u2019de az da olsa Ermeni ve H\u0131ristiyan kimliklerini koruyarak buradan \u0130stanbul ve yurt d\u0131\u015f\u0131na g\u00f6\u00e7en ailelerdir. \u00dc\u00e7\u00fcnc\u00fcs\u00fc, k\u0131r\u0131mdan sonra Dersim i\u00e7lerinde ve yine \u00c7arsancak y\u00f6resinde kalmaya devam ederken devletin g\u00f6z\u00fcne batmamak i\u00e7in Alevi inanc\u0131na kendini adapte eden ve okul filan olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in nesilden nesle dillerini de unutarak K\u00fcrtle\u015fen Ermenilerdir. Tek tek bireyler baz\u0131nda giderek kendi \u00f6z kimli\u011fine sahip \u00e7\u0131kan, mahkeme yoluyla M\u00fcsl\u00fcman isimlerini de\u011fi\u015ftiren ve kilisede vaftiz olanlar da vard\u0131r. Bunun son \u00f6rne\u011fini olu\u015fturan Miran P\u0131rgi\u00e7 G\u00fcltekin\u2019in \u00f6yk\u00fcs\u00fc Dersim Hayat Gazetesi\u2019nin Haziran 2010 tarihli ikinci say\u0131s\u0131nda okunabilir. Hrant Dink\u2019in katlinden sonra ivme kazanan bu asl\u0131na r\u00fccu hareketi, korku da\u011flar\u0131n\u0131 b\u00fcy\u00fctmek isteyenlere verilen iyi bir yan\u0131tt\u0131r.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Dersim Eyaleti\u2019nin b\u00fct\u00fcn\u00fcnde (Erzincan, Bing\u00f6l, Elaz\u0131\u011f, Erzurum, Malatya vb.) 100 y\u0131l \u00f6ncesine kadar yo\u011fun olan Ermeni varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n art\u0131k esamesi okunmaz duruma getirilmesini nas\u0131l a\u00e7\u0131klamal\u0131?<\/p>\n

Bunun iki boyutu var. Birincisi elbette ink\u00e2r edilen 1915 soyk\u0131r\u0131m ger\u00e7e\u011fi. Bununla Ermeni ulusunun binlerce y\u0131ll\u0131k kendi \u00f6z vatan\u0131ndaki varl\u0131\u011f\u0131 topyekun bitirilmek istendi. \u0130kinci boyut olarak k\u00fclt\u00fcr ve uygarl\u0131k izlerini silme operasyonu her t\u00fcrl\u00fc i\u015fletildi. Kilise, manast\u0131r ve mezarl\u0131klar\u0131n harabelerine bile tahamm\u00fcl edilmedi. Yer isimleri komple T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirildi. Bir zamanlar bu topraklarda b\u00f6yle bir halk\u0131n ve uygarl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n hi\u00e7 ya\u015fanmam\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu imaj\u0131 \u00e7izildi. Ermeni dendi\u011finde sanki bu topraklar\u0131n kadim yerlisi de\u011fil de, uzak diyarlardan gelip buralara g\u00f6z dikmi\u015f ecnebi gibi bahsedildi. T\u00fcrk\u00e7e tarih kitaplar\u0131nda Ermenistan ve Ermenilik, hi\u00e7bir d\u00f6nem i\u00e7in var olmam\u0131\u015f say\u0131ld\u0131. Anlay\u0131\u015f bu olunca, adam, tarihsel Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n son ba\u015fkentlerinden Ani\u2019yi de hi\u00e7 s\u0131k\u0131lmadan T\u00fcrk\u00e7e hat\u0131ra anlam\u0131nda \u2018An\u0131\u2019 diye tan\u0131t\u0131yor d\u00fcnyaya. Axtamar\u2019\u0131n Surp Xa\u00e7\u2019\u0131n\u0131 ise \u2018Akdamar Kilisesi\u2019 diye, zannedersin ki o eseri Sel\u00e7uklu T\u00fcrkleri yapm\u0131\u015f…<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Dersim\u2019in tarihinde Ermenilerle Alevi Zazalar\u0131n ge\u00e7mi\u015f ba\u011flar\u0131 ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel etkile\u015fimleri konusunda neler s\u00f6yleyebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n

Ermenilerin yaz\u0131l\u0131 tarihi ve Dersimlilerin s\u00f6zl\u00fc tarihi i\u00e7inde s\u00fcr\u00fclen izler, iki halk\u0131n uzun ge\u00e7mi\u015findeki belli damarlar\u0131n paralel gitti\u011fi, belli kav\u015faklarda kesi\u015fti\u011fi, hatta kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 soy ge\u00e7i\u015fleri ve kar\u0131\u015f\u0131mlar\u0131n\u0131n da \u00f6nemli boyutlarda ya\u015fand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcr\u00fcyor. Ermenice ile Dersim Zazacas\u0131 aras\u0131ndaki fonetik yak\u0131nl\u0131k ve baz\u0131 gramer benzerlikleri, kelime hazinesindeki ortakl\u0131k oran\u0131ndan daha fazlas\u0131n\u0131 ifade eden belirtilerdir. \u0130nan\u00e7 ortakl\u0131klar\u0131 daha da ilgin\u00e7. Her iki halk\u0131n eski \u00e7ok tanr\u0131l\u0131 inan\u00e7 ve geleneklerinden pek \u00e7ok \u015feyi daha sonraki H\u0131ristiyan ve Alevi inan\u00e7 sistemleri i\u00e7ine adapte ettikleri g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Bu \u00f6zellikle do\u011fan\u0131n g\u00fcc\u00fcne inanma ve ate\u015fe, suya, da\u011fa, ta\u015fa, a\u011faca tap\u0131nma y\u00f6n\u00fcyle belirgin. Dersim\u2019de Surp Sarkis\u2019e paralel H\u0131z\u0131r fig\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn yan\u0131 s\u0131ra Ermeni gelene\u011fiyle ortakla\u015fan Ga\u011fant (yeni y\u0131l) ve daha ba\u015fka rit\u00fcellerin benzerli\u011fi yine bu k\u00fclt\u00fcrel yak\u0131nl\u0131\u011fa i\u015faret eder. Onun i\u00e7in eskiler, Dersim\u2019deki Alevilikle Ermenilik fark\u0131n\u0131n so\u011fan zar\u0131ndan \u00f6nemsiz oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemi\u015fler. \u0130\u00e7 i\u00e7e ya\u015fayan iki halk aras\u0131nda kirvelik, musayiplik gibi ba\u011flar eksik olmam\u0131\u015f. \u00c7ok yerde k\u0131z al\u0131p vermi\u015f ve \u2018x\u0131nami\u2019\u00a0 (d\u00fcn\u00fcr) olmu\u015flar.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0Bilindi\u011fi kadar\u0131yla Ermeni-Zaza ve K\u00fcrt ili\u015fkileri nas\u0131l bir seyir izlemi\u015f ve 1915\u2019te b\u00f6lgenin tutumu nas\u0131l \u015fekillenmi\u015ftir?<\/p>\n

Tehcir \u00f6ncesi son d\u00f6nem g\u00f6r\u00fcnen tablo, Ermenilerin da\u011fl\u0131k kesimlerden daha \u00e7ok, tar\u0131ma elveri\u015fli d\u00fczl\u00fcklere do\u011fru kayd\u0131klar\u0131 ve kasaba gibi merkezlere toparland\u0131klar\u0131, K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f Zaza-K\u00fcrtlerin ise y\u00fcksek kesimlerde hayvanc\u0131l\u0131\u011fa dayal\u0131, k\u0131smen de g\u00f6\u00e7ebe tarz\u0131 a\u015firet hayat\u0131 s\u00fcrd\u00fckleri g\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. 1915-16\u2019larda Dersim\u2019in K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f Zaza-K\u00fcrtleri \u00e7oklukla ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z kalm\u0131\u015f, devlete asker vermemi\u015f, \u00f6te yandan Rus ordular\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 da savunma \u00f6nlemi alm\u0131\u015f. Da\u011fl\u0131k b\u00f6lgedeki bu otonom vaziyet, \u00e7ok k\u00fclt\u00fcrl\u00fc Dersim\u2019in h\u00fcmanist \u00f6zellikleri ve iki halk aras\u0131ndaki ili\u015fkilerin yak\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131, tehcir ve k\u0131r\u0131ma u\u011frat\u0131lan Ermeniler i\u00e7in Dersim\u2019i bir \u00e7ekim merkezi yapm\u0131\u015f. Soyk\u0131r\u0131mda on binden fazla Ermeni ka\u00e7a\u011fa s\u0131\u011f\u0131nma imk\u00e2n\u0131 sa\u011flay\u0131p Rus denetimindeki Erzincan\u2019a ge\u00e7melerine yard\u0131mc\u0131 olan Dersimli K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015flar, \u00e7ok de\u011ferli bir dostluk \u00f6rne\u011fi sergilemi\u015ftir. Bununla beraber yer yer devlete milislik yapan, k\u0131r\u0131m veya talana i\u015ftirak edenlerin de oldu\u011fu biliniyor, ki daha sonra Dersim\u2019in hedeflendi\u011fi durumda bu ihaneti birbirine yapanlar da eksik olmam\u0131\u015f. Dersim\u2019de eskiden yerle\u015fik olan ve s\u0131\u011f\u0131nanlar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131 sava\u015f y\u0131llar\u0131nda g\u00f6\u00e7erken, bir k\u0131sm\u0131n\u0131n Alevi a\u015firetler aras\u0131nda kald\u0131\u011f\u0131 biliniyor. Hatta devletin bunlar\u0131 izlemeyi b\u0131rakmay\u0131p, 1937-38 Harek\u00e2t\u0131 s\u0131ras\u0131nda Halvori gibi katliam serileri i\u00e7in \u00f6zel olarak hedefledi\u011fi de s\u0131r de\u011fildir. Bizim alb\u00fcm\u00fcn bro\u015f\u00fcr\u00fcnde resmi bulunan Dersim\u2019deki kilise, Halvori\u2019nin yukar\u0131s\u0131nda Munzur suyuna naz\u0131r tarihi Surp Garabet Vank\u0131\u2019d\u0131r (Manast\u0131r\u0131). 1937\u2019ye kadar ayakta olan Vank\u2019\u0131n ke\u015fi\u015fi, Seyit R\u0131za\u2019n\u0131n yak\u0131n dostu olarak onun \u00f6nemli emanetlerini saklarm\u0131\u015f. Seyid\u2019in yard\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n an\u0131lar\u0131ndan anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor ki, a\u015firetlerin direni\u015f yemini bu Vank\u2019\u0131n alt\u0131ndaki kutsal bilinen su kenar\u0131nda yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Sonra direni\u015fi ezen ordu, bu \u00e7evrede muazzam katliamlar yaparken, Surp Garabet Vank\u0131\u2019n\u0131 da topa tutarak y\u0131km\u0131\u015f. Alb\u00fcmde s\u00f6ylenen \u2018Surp Garabet\u2019e gitmi\u015fim\u2019 t\u00fcrk\u00fcs\u00fc esasen Mu\u015f\u2019taki me\u015fhur manast\u0131r \u00fczerinedir, ama Dersim\u2019deki Surp Garabet de bu b\u00f6lgede hem Ermenilerin ayakta kalan en b\u00fcy\u00fck manast\u0131r\u0131, hem de K\u0131z\u0131lba\u015f Zaza-K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n kutsal bilip ziyaret etti\u011fi ve askeri harek\u00e2tlara kar\u015f\u0131 silahla korudu\u011fu bir mek\u00e2n olarak \u00e7ok g\u00f6zde olmu\u015ftur.<\/p>\n

\u2022\u00a0T\u00fcrkiye-Ermenistan ili\u015fkileri ve T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermeniler a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan ne t\u00fcr bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 tavsiye edebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n

Tabii ki iki \u00fclke ve halklar\u0131 aras\u0131nda diyalog ve ili\u015fkilerin engelsiz geli\u015fmesinden yanay\u0131m. Normal ili\u015fkiler i\u00e7in hi\u00e7 bir \u00f6n \u015fart olmamal\u0131 ve T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan kapal\u0131 tutulan s\u0131n\u0131r kap\u0131s\u0131 derhal a\u00e7\u0131lmal\u0131d\u0131r. \u00d6te yandan tarihle y\u00fczle\u015fme sorunu, y\u00fcz y\u0131ll\u0131k d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131k ve kilitlenmeleri a\u015fman\u0131n anahtar\u0131, daha \u00e7ok da sivil giri\u015fimler. Do\u011frudan halklar aras\u0131 diyalog ve tart\u0131\u015fmalarla olgunla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lacak yeni bir s\u00fcrece ihtiya\u00e7 var. Bu bak\u0131mdan T\u00fcrkiyeli sanat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n ve ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n Ermenistan\u2019daki benzer \u00e7evrelerle geli\u015ftirece\u011fi dostluklar\u0131n iyi bir i\u015flevi olaca\u011f\u0131na inan\u0131yorum. Unutulmas\u0131n ki, bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131 ve karde\u015f\u00e7e bir gelecek i\u00e7in Ermenistan ve diaspora toplumundaki derin g\u00fcvensizli\u011fin giderilmesi, y\u00fcrekleri ferahland\u0131ran vicdani yakla\u015f\u0131mlarla toptanc\u0131 ulusal \u00f6nyarg\u0131lar\u0131n k\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131, bu taraftaki ink\u00e2rc\u0131 refleks ve kindarl\u0131klar\u0131n k\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131 kadar \u00f6nemlidir. T\u00fcrkiyeli Ermenilerin de bu bak\u0131mdan yap\u0131c\u0131 rolleri olabilir.<\/p>\n

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Mikail Aslan\u2019\u0131n a\u011fz\u0131ndan: Kay\u0131\u015fo\u011flu Yarmas\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n

Annemin anlat\u0131mlar\u0131na g\u00f6re b\u00fcy\u00fcklerimiz, Ermenilerle ilgili olaylar\u0131 anlatmamay\u0131 s\u00fcrekli \u00f6\u011f\u00fctl\u00fcyorlarm\u0131\u015f ki \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131na bir \u015fey gelmesin. Bu gelene\u011fi k\u0131rmak ad\u0131na yak\u0131n \u00e7evremizde ya\u015fanan bir olay\u0131 burada aktarmak istiyorum.<\/p>\n

\u2018Ermeniler\u2019 deyince akla gelen ilk \u015fey, k\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fcn yak\u0131nlar\u0131ndaki bir u\u00e7urumdu: \u201cKay\u0131\u015fo\u011flu Yarmas\u0131.\u201d Pertek taraf\u0131ndan Hozat\u2019a do\u011fru giderken yol \u00fczerinde bulunan bu u\u00e7urumdan, 1915 y\u0131l\u0131nda y\u00fczlerce Ermeni\u2019nin at\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 ya\u015fl\u0131lar taraf\u0131ndan s\u00fcrekli anlat\u0131l\u0131yordu. \u00c7oluk-\u00e7ocuk, kad\u0131n-k\u0131z y\u00fczlerce insan\u0131n birbirlerine ba\u011flanarak diri diri bu u\u00e7urumdan a\u015fa\u011f\u0131ya at\u0131lmas\u0131 saatlerce s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. Bu s\u0131rada ordu yetkilisi, birli\u011findeki askerlerin s\u00fcrekli azald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 fark ediyor. Me\u011ferki zorla yerden s\u00fcr\u00fcklenerek a\u015fa\u011f\u0131ya at\u0131lanlar, yanlar\u0131nda birer iki\u015fer asker a\u015fa\u011f\u0131ya \u00e7ekiyorlarm\u0131\u015f. Bu durumdan sonra kalanlar s\u00fcng\u00fclenerek a\u015fa\u011f\u0131ya at\u0131l\u0131yor. Bu vah\u015fetten \u00fc\u00e7 g\u00fcn sonra annemin dedesi Usen A\u011fay\u00ea Kav\u0131r\u00ee bu vadiye gidip s\u00fcp\u00fcrgelik topluyor. Vadiden, inleme sesleri geliyor kula\u011f\u0131na, \u00f6nce korkudan duymazl\u0131ktan geliyor. Sonra inlemelerin k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir \u00e7ocu\u011fa ait oldu\u011funu fark ediyor. Cesaretini toplay\u0131p burnunun dire\u011fini k\u0131ran ceset kokular\u0131na ald\u0131r\u0131\u015f etmeden \u00f6l\u00fclerin bulundu\u011fu alana var\u0131yor. Kafa \u00fcst\u00fc, s\u0131k dikenlerin i\u00e7erisine d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f 3-4 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki \u00e7ocu\u011fu \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yor. G\u00fcnd\u00fcz vakti Ermenilerin pe\u015fine d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f ihbarc\u0131 ve milislerden korktu\u011fu i\u00e7in geceyi bekliyor. Gece yar\u0131s\u0131 \u00e7ocu\u011fun yaralar\u0131n\u0131 sar\u0131p ah\u0131rda kendisine yer yap\u0131yor. Birka\u00e7 g\u00fcn sonra \u00e7ocuk kendine geliyor ve konu\u015fuyor. \u00d6l\u00fclerin bulundu\u011fu yerde kendisinden ba\u015fka bir k\u0131z \u00e7ocu\u011funun varl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan s\u00f6z ediyor. Usen A\u011fa, gidip onu da al\u0131p geliyor. Her ikisini iyile\u015ftirdikten sonra k\u0131z\u0131 yan\u0131na alarak gizlice k\u00f6yden ayr\u0131l\u0131yor. Birka\u00e7 g\u00fcn sonra k\u0131z\u0131 al\u0131p k\u00f6ye geri d\u00f6n\u00fcyor. Getirdi\u011fi k\u0131z\u0131n bir yak\u0131n\u0131na ait oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yleyerek ya\u015fama d\u00f6nmesini \u015fa\u011fl\u0131yor. Ad\u0131 Mecir olan bu k\u0131z daha sonra evlenip \u00e7oluk-\u00e7ocuk sahibi oluyor. Erkek \u00e7ocu\u011fu da birka\u00e7 y\u0131l ah\u0131rda gizlice a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131yor, onu da ayn\u0131 k\u0131z gibi, bir g\u00fcn al\u0131p \u00e7oban diye k\u00f6ye getiriyor. \u00c7ocuk 16 ya\u015f\u0131na var\u0131nca kendi iste\u011fiyle Elaz\u0131\u011f\u2019a, oradan \u0130stanbul\u2019a gidiyor. Y\u0131llar sonra annem ve ailesi Or\u00eeya X\u0131d\u0131r (Sultan X\u0131d\u0131r) ziyaretine gidiyorlar. Ana-baba g\u00fcn\u00fcd\u00fcr, y\u00fczlerce insan… Bir adam kasalarla meyve ve yiyecek da\u011f\u0131t\u0131yor. Gelenlere, Usena A\u011fay\u00ea Kav\u0131r\u00ee\u2019yi soruyor. Bizimkiler \u00f6nce korkup kendilerini tan\u0131tm\u0131yorlar, ilerleyen saatlerde annemin halas\u0131 adama yakla\u015f\u0131yor, a\u011fz\u0131n\u0131 ar\u0131yor. Bu adam\u0131n o \u00e7ocuk oldu\u011funu anlayan halam ger\u00e7ek kimli\u011fini s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor. Adam \u0130stanbul\u2019daki adresini falan veriyor ama bir daha ba\u011flant\u0131 kurulam\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

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Mikail Aslan Mikail Aslan, 1972 y\u0131l\u0131nda Dersim\/Xozat\u2019da do\u011fdu. On ya\u015f\u0131na geldi\u011finde, ailesi ile birlikte Kayseri\u2019ye g\u00f6\u00e7 etti. Malatya \u0130n\u00f6n\u00fc \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde matematik okumaya ba\u015flad\u0131. \u0130ki sene sonra, politik nedenlerden dolay\u0131 \u00fcniversiteden uzakla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131. Bu d\u00f6nemden itibaren hayat\u0131na m\u00fczik ile y\u00f6n verdi. Zazaca yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 ilk eserlerini, Grup Munzur ve Grup Tohum\u2019da seslendirdi. 1994 y\u0131l\u0131nda Amanya\u2019ya yerle\u015fti. 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