{"id":37065,"date":"2015-10-26T02:03:01","date_gmt":"2015-10-26T07:03:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=37065"},"modified":"2015-10-26T02:03:01","modified_gmt":"2015-10-26T07:03:01","slug":"gavur-degiliz-ki-biz-inaniyoruz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=37065","title":{"rendered":"\u2018G\u00e2vur de\u011filiz ki biz, inan\u0131yoruz\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"

<\/b><\/a>\"\u015eabo\"<\/a>Rita Ender<\/a><\/p>\n

Y\u0131l 1839. G\u00fclhane Park\u0131\u2019nda Tanzimat Ferman\u0131 okunuyor. Fermanda kimi haklar s\u0131ralan\u0131yor ve deniyor ki, \u201cY\u00fcce devletimizin tebaas\u0131 M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlarla, \u00f6b\u00fcr milletler bu haklardan tam yararlanacaklard\u0131r.\u201d Kimileri bunun nas\u0131l bir \u015fey oldu\u011funu anlayam\u0131yor, tellallar sokakta naralar atarak onlara durumu anlat\u0131yor: \u201cBundan b\u00f6yle g\u00e2vura g\u00e2vur demek yoktur ha\u2026\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

\u0130sminizin anlam\u0131yla ba\u015flayal\u0131m m\u0131 s\u00f6ze?\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

\u2018\u015eabo\u2019, S\u00fcryanice bir kelime. Pazar g\u00fcn\u00fc anlam\u0131na geliyor. H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k inanc\u0131na g\u00f6re Tanr\u0131 d\u00fcnyay\u0131 yedi g\u00fcnde yaratt\u0131 ve en son g\u00fcn olan pazar g\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00fc insanlara dinlenmeleri i\u00e7in ay\u0131rd\u0131. O dinlenme ve ibadet g\u00fcn\u00fc, S\u00fcryanicede \u2018\u015eabo\u2019dur. Ben de bunu \u00e7ok sonradan \u00f6\u011frendim.<\/p>\n

Nas\u0131l, ne zaman, kimden \u00f6\u011frendiniz?<\/b><\/p>\n

S\u00fcryanice bilmiyoruz. Mardinliyiz biz, Arap\u00e7a konu\u015fuyoruz genelde. \u00dcniversite y\u0131llar\u0131ndan sonra \u0130stanbul\u2019da kendi toplumumun i\u00e7inde girmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m ben, o zaman bana ismimin anlam\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylediler. \u00dcniversiteye giderken \u00e7evremde hi\u00e7 S\u00fcryani yoktu, ne anlama geldi\u011fini bilmiyordum ismimin, sonradan \u00f6\u011frendim. Ailem de pek a\u00e7\u0131klam\u0131yordu. Babam rahmetli olmadan \u00f6nce anlatt\u0131: \u015eabo, onun babas\u0131n\u0131n ismiymi\u015f. Babas\u0131 1915\u2019te kaybolmu\u015f, ba\u015f\u0131na ne geldi\u011fini bilememi\u015fler. Babam da \u00e7ocuklar\u0131ndan birine onun ismini vermek istemi\u015f hep ama i\u00e7inde bir \u00e7ekince varm\u0131\u015f. \u201cYa yar\u0131n \u00f6b\u00fcr g\u00fcn ad\u0131ndan S\u00fcryani oldu\u011fu anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in ba\u015f\u0131na bir \u015fey gelirse\u201d endi\u015fesiyle, benden \u00f6nceki \u00e7ocuklar\u0131na S\u00fcryanice isimler koyamam\u0131\u015f. Be\u015f karde\u015fiz biz, b\u00fct\u00fcn karde\u015flerime, a\u011fabey ve ablalar\u0131ma T\u00fcrk ismi vermi\u015f. En son bana bu ismi vermi\u015f fakat ben bu ismin s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 hayat\u0131m boyunca \u00e7ok ya\u015fad\u0131m. \u0130sminiz farkl\u0131 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in her \u015feye negatif olarak ba\u015fl\u0131yorsunuz.<\/p>\n

Bu se\u00e7imi y\u00fcz\u00fcnden baban\u0131za k\u0131zd\u0131n\u0131z m\u0131?<\/b><\/p>\n

\u0130lk \u00f6nceleri, ufakken k\u0131z\u0131yordum. Sonra ho\u015fuma gitmeye ba\u015flad\u0131, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu benim atalar\u0131mdan gelen bir isim, onu gururla ta\u015f\u0131mam gerekiyor. Sevmeye ba\u015flad\u0131m. Fakat insanlar hep sizi T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirmeye, asimile etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorlar. S\u00fcryanice isminizi T\u00fcrk\u00e7e forma sokup \u00f6yle s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar. Ben bunu asimilasyon olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. \u201c\u015eabo\u201d dedi\u011fim zaman kabullenemiyorlar, \u201cGel biz sana ba\u015fka bir isim verelim: \u015eaban\u201d diyorlar. Kemal Sunal filmlerinin \u00e7ok reva\u00e7ta oldu\u011fu y\u0131llarda bundan \u00e7ok rahats\u0131z olurdum, sinirlenirdim. Fakat art\u0131k d\u00fczeltmekten, ad\u0131n\u0131z\u0131n do\u011frusunu s\u00f6ylemekten o kadar yoruluyorsunuz ki, b\u0131k\u0131yorsunuz ve bir noktadan sonra teslim oluyorsunuz. Kar\u015f\u0131n\u0131zdaki her zaman S\u00fcryanili\u011fin ne demek oldu\u011funu da bilmiyor. Hemen \u2018g\u00e2vur\u2019la \u00f6zde\u015fle\u015ftiriliyorsunuz. H\u0131ristiyanlara kar\u015f\u0131 negatif bir anlay\u0131\u015f var \u00e7o\u011fu insanda, bununla m\u00fccadele ediyorsunuz.<\/p>\n

Nas\u0131l bir m\u00fccadele bu?<\/b><\/p>\n

Bir kere, \u2018g\u00e2vur\u2019 inanmayan, k\u00e2fir demek. Biz S\u00fcryaniler, inanan insanlar\u0131z. 2000 y\u0131ldan beri Mesih\u2019e inan\u0131yoruz. Bunu anlat\u0131yoruz. Fakat bunun s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131s\u0131yla \u00f6m\u00fcr ge\u00e7iyor. Askerde \u00f6zellikle… K\u0131sa d\u00f6nem yapt\u0131m askerli\u011fi. Ben gitti\u011fimde oradakilere dediler ki, \u201cMardinli bir \u00e7avu\u015f geldi.\u201d Mardinli \u00e7avu\u015f \u00e7ok azd\u0131, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc o b\u00f6lgede ya\u015fayan insanlar \u00e7o\u011funlukla K\u00fcrt\u2019t\u00fc, K\u00fcrtlerden \u00e7avu\u015f yap\u0131lmazd\u0131. Ben gittim, tan\u0131tt\u0131m kendimi. \u0130smimi, kim oldu\u011fumu s\u00f6yleyince, beni kar\u015f\u0131lamaya gelenler ka\u00e7t\u0131lar. \u00c7evremde kimse kalmad\u0131. Y\u00fcksek r\u00fctbeli insanlar vard\u0131, onlar bana s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 ya\u015fatt\u0131. Birka\u00e7 k\u00f6t\u00fc an\u0131m oldu, bana \u201cg\u00e2vur\u201d dendi, tepki verdim. Askerlikte tepki pek g\u00fczel bir \u015fey de\u011fil, \u2018emir demiri keser\u2019 orada. Bu y\u00fczden ve \u00f6zellikle ismimden dolay\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bir askerlik ya\u015fad\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Bu s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131za isim se\u00e7erken belirleyici oldu mu?<\/b><\/p>\n

Hay\u0131r. Ben \u00e7ocuklar\u0131ma T\u00fcrk\u00e7e isim vermedim. Umar\u0131m onlar ayn\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 ya\u015famazlar.<\/p>\n

\u0130simleri ve kimliklerine dair fark\u0131ndal\u0131klar\u0131 var m\u0131?<\/b><\/p>\n

\u015eu \u00e2na kadar \u00f6yle bir fark\u0131ndal\u0131k ya\u015famad\u0131lar. Herhalde olursa bana sorarlar, \u201cBaba benim ismim niye b\u00f6yle?\u201d diye. O\u011flan yedi, k\u0131z 11 ya\u015f\u0131nda; daha sormad\u0131lar bunu. \u00c7ocuklar\u0131na zorluk \u00e7ekmesin diye T\u00fcrk\u00e7e isimler koyup entegre olmay\u0131 se\u00e7en insanlar da var. Ya kabul edeceksiniz asimilasyonu, ya da…<\/p>\n

Asimile olmak sizin i\u00e7in ne ifade ediyor?<\/b><\/p>\n

Kendi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcnden, kendi dilinden, kendi inanc\u0131ndan zorla uzakla\u015ft\u0131r\u0131lmak… Avrupa\u2019ya giden insanlar bu s\u00fcre\u00e7ten ge\u00e7iyorlar mesela; dillerine, k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerine uzakla\u015f\u0131yorlar. Zaman\u0131nda cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131m\u0131z demi\u015fti, \u201cAsimilasyon bir insanl\u0131k su\u00e7udur.\u201d T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de de ayn\u0131 s\u00fcre\u00e7 i\u015fliyor, burada da farkl\u0131 insanlar asimilasyona t\u00e2bi tutuluyorlar. Ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131k hayat\u0131n \u00e7e\u015fitli alanlar\u0131nda var. Fakat ne yaz\u0131k ki insanlar, asimilasyona u\u011framayan insanlar bunun varl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 kabullenemiyorlar.<\/p>\n

S\u00fcryaniler ne gibi ayr\u0131mc\u0131l\u0131klara maruz kald\u0131lar, kal\u0131yorlar?<\/b><\/p>\n

S\u00fcryaniler kendilerini g\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc asimilasyona tabi tutmalar\u0131na ra\u011fmen baz\u0131 haklardan mahrum kald\u0131lar. Bu h\u00e2l\u00e2 s\u00fcr\u00fcyor. \u00d6rne\u011fin e\u011fitim hakk\u0131ndan yararlanamad\u0131lar. Onlar da bir az\u0131nl\u0131k olmalar\u0131na, Lozan Antla\u015fmas\u0131\u2019nda \u201cM\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmayan\u201d terimi yer almas\u0131na ra\u011fmen, e\u011fitim hakk\u0131ndan faydaland\u0131r\u0131lmad\u0131lar. Kendi kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 kuramad\u0131lar. Anaokulu a\u00e7mak i\u00e7in bile hukuk\u00ee s\u00fcrece girmek zorunda kald\u0131lar. Sonunda dava kazanarak anaokulu a\u00e7t\u0131lar fakat herhangi bir T\u00fcrkiye vatanda\u015f\u0131 \u00e7ok kolay bir \u015fekilde anaokulu a\u00e7abilir. E\u011fitim kurumlar\u0131 yok, eskiden di\u011fer az\u0131nl\u0131k gruplar\u0131n\u0131n okullar\u0131na g\u00f6nderirlerdi. Son zamanlarda orada da zorluklar var, Ermeni okullar\u0131na kay\u0131t yap\u0131l\u0131rken vaftiz belgesi isteniyor. Midyat\u2019ta ya\u015fayan S\u00fcryaniler okul i\u00e7in Mill\u00ee E\u011fitim Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019na soru sormu\u015flard\u0131, cevap alamad\u0131lar, s\u00fcr\u00fcncemede b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131. K\u0131rsal b\u00f6lgeler oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in orada insanlar daha s\u0131k\u0131 sar\u0131l\u0131yorlar kimliklerine. B\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehirde kimlik feda edilebiliyor.<\/p>\n

\u0130nsanlar\u0131n kimliklerine s\u0131k\u0131 sar\u0131lm\u0131\u015f oldu\u011fu nas\u0131l anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131yor?<\/b><\/p>\n

Bak\u0131yorsunuz; isimleri S\u00fcryanice, kim olduklar\u0131 biliniyor, hep bir arada bulunuyorlar, al\u0131\u015fveri\u015fleri ayn\u0131 yerlerden yap\u0131yorlar. Burada farkl\u0131 yerlerde ya\u015f\u0131yorlar, b\u00f6l\u00fck p\u00f6r\u00e7\u00fckler. Orada devaml\u0131 bir aradalar. B\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehirde ya\u015fam\u0131n getirdi\u011fi zorluklar var. Mesela S\u00fcryanilerde Hano Kritho diye bir gelenek var; \u00fc\u00e7 g\u00fcn boyunca \u015fenlik yap\u0131l\u0131yor. Herkes evinden getirdi\u011fi yiyece\u011fi k\u00f6y meydan\u0131nda topluyor, o yiyecekleri hep birlikte t\u00fcketiyorlar, e\u011fleniyorlar. Baz\u0131 k\u00f6ylerde h\u00e2l\u00e2 yap\u0131l\u0131yor ama tabii ki b\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehir i\u00e7in olanaks\u0131z bir \u015fey bu. \u0130nsanlar b\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehrin getirdi\u011fi zorluklar\u0131 a\u015fmakta zorlan\u0131yorlar, uzakla\u015f\u0131yorlar. Bir arada bulunam\u0131yorlar. Etkinlikleri unutuyorlar zamanla; yapmaya yapmaya unutuluyor. B\u00fcy\u00fck \u015fehirde ya\u015fam nas\u0131ld\u0131r? Sabah kalk\u0131l\u0131r, i\u015fe gidilir, ak\u015fam yorgun d\u00f6n\u00fcl\u00fcr, ertesi sabah rutin yine ba\u015flar. Oysa k\u0131rsal kesimde b\u00f6yle bir s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 yok. Mesela harman zaman\u0131 insanlar tarlada \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rlar, sonra gelirler, k\u00f6y meydan\u0131nda hep beraber otururlar.<\/p>\n

Hano Kritho \u015fenli\u011fi \u0130stanbul\u2019da d\u00fczenlenecek olsa, hangi meydan, hangi semt se\u00e7ilirdi?<\/b><\/p>\n

Bak\u0131rk\u00f6y, Ye\u015filk\u00f6y, herhalde o taraflarda bir yer olurdu. Fakat, hi\u00e7bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr ait olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir yerde ya\u015fayamaz. Biz de Mezopotamya topraklar\u0131na aittik. Oradan kopar\u0131ld\u0131k, kopmak zorunda kald\u0131k. Gitti\u011fimiz yerlerde k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcm\u00fcz\u00fc ya\u015fatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz ama ana g\u00f6vdeden koptu\u011fumuz i\u00e7in ya\u015famam\u0131z zor olacak. N\u00fcfusumuz \u00e7ok azal\u0131yor, g\u00f6\u00e7 ediliyor. S\u00fcryanilerin rengi soluyor.<\/p>\n

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Rita Ender Y\u0131l 1839. G\u00fclhane Park\u0131\u2019nda Tanzimat Ferman\u0131 okunuyor. 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