{"id":33940,"date":"2015-03-10T05:03:53","date_gmt":"2015-03-10T10:03:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=33940"},"modified":"2015-03-10T05:03:53","modified_gmt":"2015-03-10T10:03:53","slug":"sev-aspadz-mek-vovik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=33940","title":{"rendered":"Sev Aspadz! Mek Vovik?*"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=33941\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-33941\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-33941\" alt=\"Mahir \u00d6zkan\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Mahir-\u00d6zkan.jpg\" width=\"200\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2015\/03\/Mahir-\u00d6zkan.jpg 200w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2015\/03\/Mahir-\u00d6zkan-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a>Mahir \u00d6zkan<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>15 \u015eubat Pazar g\u00fcn\u00fc, Vartanants Korosu\u2019nun kurulu\u015funun 83. Y\u0131l\u0131 vesilesi ile yap\u0131lan t\u00f6rende Patrik Genel Vekili Ba\u015fepiskopos Aram Ate\u015fyan bir konu\u015fma yapt\u0131.<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0Konu\u015fmas\u0131nda, M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermenilere ili\u015fkin g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerini de i\u00e7erecek \u015fekilde Ermeni kimli\u011finden ne anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ortaya koydu. Anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131yla daha \u00e7ok Soyk\u0131r\u0131m d\u00f6neminin \u201ck\u0131l\u0131\u00e7art\u0131klar\u0131\u201d idi s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc ettikleri san\u0131r\u0131m. Ancak M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermeniler meselesi son y\u00fczy\u0131l\u0131n meselesi de\u011fildir. \u00c7ok daha eski zamanlardan bu yana M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmu\u015f Hem\u015finli Ermenileri de yak\u0131ndan ilgilendiriyor bu konu.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Genel olarak M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermeniler konusu ve \u00f6zelde Hem\u015finli M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeniler son y\u0131llarda toplum g\u00fcndemine daha s\u0131kl\u0131kla gelmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015f durumda. Bu tart\u0131\u015fmalar Hem\u015finliler i\u00e7erisinde ciddi tart\u0131\u015fmalara ve aray\u0131\u015flara yol a\u00e7\u0131yor. Herkes bu yeni duruma g\u00f6re yeniden konum belirliyor, tutum almaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Bir yandan da mesele ile ilgili hem tarihi hem k\u00fclt\u00fcrel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Hem\u015fin diline ili\u015fkin duyarl\u0131l\u0131k geli\u015fiyor. Hem\u015fin Ermenicesi ile yaz\u0131lm\u0131\u015f hem derleme hem telif eserler yay\u0131na haz\u0131rlan\u0131yor. Dil, horon vb. kurslar ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcl\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Do\u011fal olarak bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalara y\u00f6nelik olumsuz reaksiyonlar da oluyor. Bu reaksiyonlar genellikle tahmin edilebilece\u011fi \u00fczere her renkten T\u00fcrk- \u0130slamc\u0131 ve ulusalc\u0131 \u00e7evrelerden geliyor. Bu reaksiyonlarda en \u00e7ok \u00f6ne \u00e7\u0131kan arg\u00fcman ise, \u201cErmeni kimli\u011finin dinsel bir kimlik oldu\u011fu ve Hem\u015finlilerin M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmas\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 bu kimli\u011fe sahip olmalar\u0131n\u0131n imkans\u0131z oldu\u011fu\u201d arg\u00fcman\u0131d\u0131r. Bu arg\u00fcman\u0131, Hem\u015finlilerin Ermenilikle ili\u015fkilerinin bir d\u00f6nem Ermeni kilisesine ba\u011flanmaktan kaynakland\u0131\u011f\u0131 ancak Ermeni kilisesine ba\u011flanmadan \u00f6nce de T\u00fcrk olduklar\u0131 teziyle desteklerler. Yani zaten dinsel bir kimlik olan Ermenilikten M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olduktan sonra tamamen \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131ktan \u00f6nce de T\u00fcrk olduklar\u0131na g\u00f6re \u015fu anda tam da istenen kimlik olan T\u00fcrk- \u0130slam kimli\u011fini rahatl\u0131kla benimseyebilirler. Hem\u015finlilerin hi\u00e7bir zaman H\u0131ristiyan olmad\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 ve H\u0131ristiyan olan Hem\u015finli Ermenilerin \u00fclkeyi terk ettikleri! Kimsenin M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermeni olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 savunacak kadar ger\u00e7eklikten kopanlar da \u00e7\u0131kmaya ba\u015flad\u0131 son y\u0131llarda.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Sonu\u00e7 itibar\u0131yla samimiyetle dinsel kimli\u011fi kimli\u011fin belirleyici bir unsuru olarak g\u00f6rs\u00fcn veya dini T\u00fcrkiye toplumunun b\u00fct\u00fcn gayri T\u00fcrk M\u00fcsl\u00fcman unsurlar\u0131n\u0131 T\u00fcrkle\u015ftirmenin bir arac\u0131 olarak g\u00f6rs\u00fcn sonu\u00e7 de\u011fi\u015fmiyor. Hem\u015finlilerin asimilasyonunda din \u00f6nemli bir i\u015flev g\u00f6r\u00fcyor. Bu i\u015flevi g\u00f6rebilmesinde en \u00f6nemli unsur ise \u201cM\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeni olmaz\u201d diyen, T\u00fcrkl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanl\u0131kla, Ermenili\u011fi H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131kla e\u015fitleyen anlay\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u015eimdi Ate\u015fyan\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6zlerine gelebiliriz. Ate\u015fyan diyor ki:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201c\u2018Benim b\u00fcy\u00fckannem Ermeni\u2019ymi\u015f\u2019&#8230; Senin b\u00fcy\u00fckbaban da M\u00fcsl\u00fcman\u2019d\u0131. Kimin kan\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yorsun sen? Ermeni, diniyle ayr\u0131lmaz bir b\u00fct\u00fcnd\u00fcr. E\u011fer Ermeni olmak istiyorsan, gelir vaftiz olursun, Ermeni Kilisesi mensubu olursun, ve o zaman dersin \u2018Ben Ermeni\u2019yim\u2019\u2026\u2026 Biz kimden ne talep ediyoruz? \u00d6\u011frencilerden vaftiz k\u00e2\u011f\u0131d\u0131 m\u0131 talep ediyoruz? Y\u00f6netim kurulu \u00fcyelerinden vaftiz k\u00e2\u011f\u0131d\u0131 m\u0131 talep ediyoruz? Ne oldu\u011funu nereden biliyoruz? \u2018Ermeni\u2019yim\u2019 der, Ermenice konu\u015fur, yeter. Dinimiz o kadar ucuz olmamal\u0131. Mademki biz Ermeni\u2019yiz, H\u0131ristiyan\u2019\u0131z, dinimizi ve kimli\u011fimizi koruyaca\u011f\u0131z. Mill\u00ee ve din\u00ee t\u00fcm de\u011ferlerimize sahip \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131z. Yoksa, bo\u015f bir \u015feydir \u2018Ben Ermeniyim\u2019 demek. \u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Tane tane gidelim. Ebeveynlerden kad\u0131n olan Ermeni, oldu\u011fu durumda diyor ki, Ate\u015fyan, erkek olan da M\u00fcsl\u00fcman. Bir kere daha yanl\u0131\u015f kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rma. Ermeni ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman kimlikleri kar\u015f\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131ya kullan\u0131lamaz. T\u00fcrk M\u00fcsl\u00fcman, T\u00fcrk H\u0131ristiyan, T\u00fcrk Ateist vb. olabildi\u011fi gibi, Ermeni M\u00fcsl\u00fcman, Ermeni H\u0131ristiyan, Ermeni ateist de olabilir.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Soruyor Ate\u015fyan; \u201cKimin kan\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131yorsun sen?\u201d Ben de soruyorum size say\u0131n Ate\u015fyan: Kimin ruhunu ta\u015f\u0131yorsunuz siz? Kan ve soy ba\u011f\u0131 da nedir? Homojen bir \u0131rk m\u0131 var d\u00fcnyada? Bunlar \u00e7ok eskilerde kalmad\u0131 m\u0131 art\u0131k? D\u00fcnyada yap\u0131lan b\u00fct\u00fcn DNA \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 defalarca bunu g\u00f6stermedi mi?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cErmeni, diniyle ayr\u0131lmaz bir b\u00fct\u00fcnd\u00fcr. E\u011fer Ermeni olmak istiyorsan, gelir vaftiz olursun, Ermeni Kilisesi mensubu olursun, ve o zaman dersin \u2018Ben Ermeni\u2019yim\u2019\u201d diyor Ate\u015fyan. Hadi insan\u0131n i\u00e7inden \u201cEmredersiniz pa\u015fam!\u201d dedirten \u00fcslubu bir yana b\u0131rakal\u0131m da benim tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131m onlarca ateist Ermeni var, onlar\u0131 ne yapaca\u011f\u0131z. Kilisenize kay\u0131tl\u0131 olmalar\u0131n\u0131n inan\u00e7l\u0131 olduklar\u0131 anlam\u0131na gelmedi\u011fini bilecek kadar tecr\u00fcbeye sahip oldu\u011funuzu tahmin ederim. \u015eimdi bu arkada\u015flar Ermenilikten \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015f m\u0131 say\u0131l\u0131yorlar? \u00c7\u0131kt\u0131larsa ne oluyorlar?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ayr\u0131ca hadi diyelim ki bilmem ka\u00e7 ku\u015fak \u00f6nceki dedelerimiz zorla M\u00fcsl\u00fcman oldu. Ondan sonra ku\u015faklar boyunca insanlar g\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc olarak M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 benimsediler. M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanl\u0131k art\u0131k bu insanlar\u0131n do\u011fal dini olmu\u015f durumunda. Zorla M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015ft\u0131rman\u0131n tarihsel bir haks\u0131zl\u0131k olmas\u0131 kadar, art\u0131k bu insanlar\u0131n samimi olarak M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olduklar\u0131 da bir ger\u00e7ek. Say\u0131n Ate\u015fyan size ve T\u00fcrk- \u0130slamc\u0131 zevata tavsiyem; \u0130nsanlar\u0131 M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanl\u0131klar\u0131 \u00fczerinden T\u00fcrk, H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131klar\u0131 \u00fczerinden Ermeni saymaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak yerine M\u00fcsl\u00fcman Ermeni ger\u00e7e\u011fi ile bar\u0131\u015f\u0131n.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Say\u0131n Ate\u015fyan, ben derleme \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m s\u0131ras\u0131nda hem Hem\u015fin Ermenicesi konu\u015fan Hem\u015finlilerde, hem konu\u015famayanlarda baz\u0131 dualar kaydettim. Bu dualar Ermenice ve hi\u00e7 M\u00fcsl\u00fcman dualar\u0131na benzemiyor. Hi\u00e7 H\u0131ristiyan dualar\u0131na da benzemiyor. Bu dualar H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131ktan bile eski muhtemelen ve Ermenice. Y\u00fczy\u0131llar\u0131 a\u015f\u0131p gelmi\u015f Hem\u015finlilerin belle\u011finde. H\u0131r\u0131tiyanl\u0131k \u00f6ncesinden gelen vartavar ve xodo\u00e7<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftn2\">[2]<\/a>\u00a0hala kutlan\u0131yor Hem\u015finin baz\u0131 yaylalar\u0131nda. Biz hala insanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 tabutla g\u00f6m\u00fcyoruz. Mezarlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda \u0131\u015f\u0131k yak\u0131yoruz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bizim masallar\u0131m\u0131z, a\u011f\u0131tlar\u0131m\u0131z, f\u0131kralar\u0131m\u0131z, manilerimiz, horonlar\u0131m\u0131z, ezgilerimiz var. \u00c7ok eski zamanlar\u0131n izlerini ta\u015f\u0131yan. Bunlar\u0131 derliyoruz, yenilerini yazmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Bunlar bug\u00fcn\u00fcn Ermeni k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc de besleyen zenginle\u015ftiren \u00f6\u011feleri olarak kayda ge\u00e7iyor. Hem\u015finlilerin dil konu\u015fan\u0131 konu\u015fmayan\u0131, H\u0131ristiyan\u0131, M\u00fcsl\u00fcman\u0131 kendilerini birle\u015ftiren bir\u00e7ok ortak de\u011feri \u00fczerinden ili\u015fkileniyor, birbirinden \u00f6\u011freniyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0130nsanlar evet dinlerini de\u011fi\u015ftirmi\u015fler ama kimliklerinin ba\u015fka bir\u00e7ok unsurunu da korumu\u015flar. Ermeniyim demek, Ermenice konu\u015fmak yetmiyor size anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131yla. Peki o zaman ilk gen\u00e7lik y\u0131llar\u0131mda anneme \u201cErmeniyiz biz\u201d dedi\u011fimde verdi\u011fi tepkiyi payla\u015fmam belki nas\u0131l bir \u015feyden s\u00f6z etti\u011fimizi hat\u0131rlat\u0131r size: \u201ckena emen da\u011f Ermeniyim asa u kezi gedrin\u201d<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftn3\">[3]<\/a>. Ya da belki \u015f\u00f6yle yazmal\u0131y\u0131m: \u201ckna amen de\u011f Ermeniem \u0131se u kezi gdrin.\u201d Yani say\u0131n Ate\u015fyan, bu \u00fclkede ben Ermeniyim, demek hi\u00e7bir zaman bo\u015f bir \u015fey olmad\u0131, bug\u00fcn de de\u011fil.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Biz k\u00f6t\u00fc \u015feylerden s\u00f6z ederken, hayk\u0131r\u0131rken, \u015fa\u015f\u0131r\u0131rken \u201csev aspadz\u201d<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftn4\">[4]<\/a>\u00a0deriz. Annem bir g\u00fcn de \u201cyes erginki cermag aspadz unim\u201d<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftn5\">[5]<\/a>\u00a0dedi, g\u00f6ksel korumaya ihtiya\u00e7 duydu\u011fu bir anda.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u015eimdi soruyorum say\u0131n Ate\u015fyan: Sev aspadz! Mek vovik?<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftn6\">[6]<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftnref1\"><i>[1]<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0<\/i><i><a href=\"http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazi\/10690\/atesyandan-tartisilacak-sozler?utm_source=dlvr.it&amp;utm_medium=facebook\">http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/tr\/yazi\/10690\/atesyandan-tartisilacak-sozler?utm_source=dlvr.it&amp;utm_medium=facebook<\/a><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftnref2\"><i>[2]<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0Vartavar ve xodo\u00e7: k\u00f6kleri H\u0131ristiyanl\u0131k \u00f6ncesine uzanan \u015fenlik, bayramlar.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftnref3\"><i>[3]<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0Git her yerde Ermeniyim de de seni kessinler.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftnref4\"><i>[4]<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0Sev aspadz: kara tanr\u0131.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftnref5\"><i>[5]<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0Benim g\u00f6ky\u00fcz\u00fcnde beyaz tanr\u0131m var.<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html#_ftnref6\"><i>[6]<\/i><\/a><i>\u00a0Mek vovik: biz kimiz?<\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.ortakhaber.com\/sev-aspadz-mek-vovik.html<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mahir \u00d6zkan 15 \u015eubat Pazar g\u00fcn\u00fc, Vartanants Korosu\u2019nun kurulu\u015funun 83. Y\u0131l\u0131 vesilesi ile yap\u0131lan t\u00f6rende Patrik Genel Vekili Ba\u015fepiskopos Aram Ate\u015fyan bir konu\u015fma yapt\u0131.[1]\u00a0Konu\u015fmas\u0131nda, M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanla\u015f(t\u0131r\u0131l)m\u0131\u015f Ermenilere ili\u015fkin g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerini de i\u00e7erecek \u015fekilde Ermeni kimli\u011finden ne anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ortaya koydu. Anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131yla daha \u00e7ok Soyk\u0131r\u0131m d\u00f6neminin \u201ck\u0131l\u0131\u00e7art\u0131klar\u0131\u201d idi s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc ettikleri san\u0131r\u0131m. 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