{"id":32311,"date":"2014-11-05T04:48:53","date_gmt":"2014-11-05T09:48:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=32311"},"modified":"2014-11-05T04:49:54","modified_gmt":"2014-11-05T09:49:54","slug":"etyen-mahcupyan-ile-ozel-roportaj-24-nisanda-erdogan-ermenistana-gelecek-mi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=32311","title":{"rendered":"Etyen Mah\u00e7upyan ile \u00f6zel r\u00f6portaj: 24 Nisan\u2019da Erdo\u011fan Ermenistan\u2019a gelecek mi?"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\u0537\u0569\u0575\u0565\u0576<\/a>Son\u00a0g\u00fcnlerde Ba\u015fbakan\u00a0Ahmet Davuto\u011flu\u2019nun ba\u015f dan\u0131\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131na atanan \u201cAk\u015fam\u201d gazetesi\u00a0 yazar\u0131\u00a0 Ermeni as\u0131ll\u0131\u00a0Etyen Mah\u00e7upyan,\u00a0atanmas\u0131, faaliyet alan\u0131, Ermeni-T\u00fcrk ili\u015fkileri ve \u201cYeni T\u00fcrkiye\u201d perspektifleri\u00a0konusunda Ermenihaber.am\u2019e\u00a0 \u00f6zel\u00a0bir\u00a0r\u00f6portaj verdi:<\/strong><\/em>
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\n– Ermenistan\u2019da ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de baz\u0131 insanlar atanman\u0131z\u0131 Ermenistan- T\u00fcrkiye ili\u015fkilerinde \u00f6nemli bir ad\u0131m olarak niteliyorlar. Bir misyonunuz var diye konu\u015fuyorlar…<\/b>\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n

T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de problemlerin s\u0131ralamas\u0131 yapsak Ermeni meselesi ancak ortalarda yer al\u0131yor.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

– Ermeniler, do\u011fal olarak, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni meselesinin \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorlar. Ama \u00f6yle de\u011fil. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de problemlerin s\u0131ralamas\u0131 yapsak Ermeni meselesi ancak ortalarda yer al\u0131yor. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, \u015fu an T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin \u00f6n\u00fcndeki meseleler a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan bakarsak tabii ben Ermeni meselesiyle de muhtemelen u\u011fra\u015fm\u0131\u015f olabilirim \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc 1915 y\u00fcz\u00fcc\u00fc y\u0131l\u0131 hem de bir\u00e7ok Ermeni de beni bulup benim \u00fczerinde bir \u015feyler yapmak isteyebilecek, ama \u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki y\u0131llara bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z zaman \u015funu s\u00f6yleyebilirim. Ermeni meselesi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin ne kadar meselesi olursa, ancak benim de o kadar meselem olacak.\u00a0 \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc ben sonu\u00e7ta Ba\u015fbakan\u0131n\u0131n dan\u0131\u015fman\u0131y\u0131m. Ba\u015fbakan\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcndeki meselelerle ilgilenece\u011fim.\u00a0<\/p>\n

– Ba\u015fbakan ile faaliyet alan\u0131n\u0131z hakk\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmediniz mi acaba?<\/b><\/p>\n

Ermeni olmasayd\u0131m da dan\u0131\u015fman olacakt\u0131m.<\/i><\/b>
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\n– \u015eu ana kadar, \u00f6yle bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme olmad\u0131. Ama Ba\u015fbakan benimle ili\u015fkisinin herhangi bir tek alan\u0131nda olmas\u0131n\u0131 istemiyor. G\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcm kadar\u0131yla \u00e7ok daha genel olacak. T\u00fcrkiye bir in\u015fa d\u00f6neminde. Cumhuriyetin yeniden kurulmas\u0131 gibi bir mesele var \u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fczde. \u00d6n\u00fcm\u00fczdeki 8-10 y\u0131lda b\u00fct\u00fcn kurumsal yap\u0131s\u0131yla bu olay ger\u00e7ekle\u015fecek ve bu olay\u0131n ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmesi s\u00fcrecinde de belirli bir yard\u0131ma veya belirli bir dan\u0131\u015fmaya ihtiyac\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor.\u00a0 Dolayl\u0131s\u0131yla benim rol\u00fcm de b\u00f6yle bir rol. \u00e7ok muhtemelen Ermeni olmasayd\u0131m da dan\u0131\u015fman olacakt\u0131m, Ba\u015fbakan da bunu s\u00f6yledi. Ermeni olmam bir avantajd\u0131, ekstra bir olay.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Ka\u00e7 senedir benim u\u011fra\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m alanlar Ermeni ihtiyac\u0131 veya problemlerinden \u00e7ok daha geni\u015f bir alan, ve ben o alandan daha dar bir alana inmeyi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyorum.\u00a0
\nBenim katk\u0131m olabilecek bir ortam olursa ve ger\u00e7ek siyasi akt\u00f6rler benden bir \u015fey isterse, tabii ki yapar\u0131m. Ama bu ba\u015fka bir \u015fey, sadece bir g\u00f6rev verirler onu yapar\u0131m.
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\n– Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 100. y\u0131l\u0131 arifesinde atanman\u0131z bir\u00a0tesad\u00fcf\u00a0m\u00fc?<\/b><\/p>\n

– Davuto\u011flu\u2019nun Ba\u015fbakan olmas\u0131yla ba\u011flant\u0131 var. Yani Davuto\u011flu ge\u00e7en sene Ba\u015fbakan olsayd\u0131 muhtemelen ge\u00e7en sene dan\u0131\u015fman olurdum. Ama ona denk geldi.
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\n– Bildi\u011finiz gibi Ermenistan Cumhurbakan\u0131 Serj Sarkisyan, T\u00fcrkiye Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131 24 Nisan\u2019da Ermenistan\u2019a davet etmi\u015fti. Sizce T\u00fcrkiye Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 bu davete nas\u0131l bir cevap verecek?<\/b><\/p>\n

Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n 24 Nisan\u2019da Ermenistan\u2019a gitmesi\u00a0ihtimalli g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorum.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

– 24 Nisanda Ermenistan\u2019a gitmek \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli bir jest. Ondan \u00f6nce kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 bir s\u00fcr\u00fc jeste ihtiya\u00e7 var. E\u011fer o jestler yap\u0131labilirse o zaman durum belki de olgunla\u015fabilir ve Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131n oraya gitmek ihtimali ortaya \u00e7\u0131kabilir ama ge\u00e7ek\u00e7i olarak bakarsak ben b\u00f6yle bir ihtimal g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorum. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc bu sene Ermeni taraf\u0131n\u0131n da olabilece\u011finden daha sertlik g\u00f6sterme ihtimalini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Ermeni taraf\u0131 daha sert oldu\u011fu s\u00fcrece de T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin b\u00f6yle bir jest yapmak ihtimali yok.\u00a0
\n\u00d6nce \u00e7ok ba\u015fka \u015feyin yap\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekiyor.\u00a0 Bunlar\u0131n da T\u00fcrkiye yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 yapacaksa, yar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131 da Ermenistan\u00a0 yapacak. Ermenistan sadece davet edip beklerse ben Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131n oraya gidece\u011fini sanm\u0131yorum.
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\n– O kadar \u00e7ok konu\u015fulan \u201ctop\u201d nerede?<\/b><\/p>\n

– Top burada ve top veya \u015furada diye bakmamak gerekiyor. Top dola\u015f\u0131yor, top ortada ve kimse topa girmiyor.\u00a0 Topu ortada b\u0131rakm\u0131\u015flar. Burada birlikte topun etraf\u0131nda bir halka olu\u015fturmak laz\u0131m ve birlikte d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmek laz\u0131m.<\/p>\n

– Baz\u0131 insanlar sizin daha \u00f6nce de h\u00fck\u00fcmete gayriresmi olarak dan\u0131\u015fmal\u0131k yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar…<\/b><\/p>\n

– \u015eu konu\u015fmalar ger\u00e7e\u011fi yans\u0131tm\u0131yorlar. Benim AK partide tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131m insanlar var, ili\u015fkim var. Fakat hi\u00e7 bir zaman dan\u0131\u015fmanl\u0131k olmad\u0131. \u015e\u00f6yle bir teklif de olmad\u0131.\u00a0<\/p>\n

– Ermenistan-T\u00fcrkiye ili\u015fkilerinin bug\u00fcnk\u00fc durumuna bakarak, yar\u0131n i\u00e7in ne diyebiliriz?<\/b><\/p>\n

– Ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i bakarsak bu y\u0131l Ermeni-T\u00fcrk ili\u015fkilerinde b\u00fcy\u00fck bir ilerleme olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 sanm\u0131yorum. 2015 ge\u00e7tikten sonra ihtimalin artaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. 2016\u2019yla beraber bir rahatlama olacak. Yani bu y\u00fcz\u00fcc\u00fc y\u0131l\u0131n bitmesiyle beraber daha ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i ve daha uzun vadeli bak\u0131\u015f, birbirine anlamaya d\u00f6n\u00fck daha fazla enerji muhtemelen \u00e7\u0131kacak. Zaten \u015fu anda toplumlar aras\u0131nda ili\u015fkiler giderek geli\u015fiyor, \u00e7ok fazla say\u0131da sanatla k\u00fclt\u00fcrel projeler oluyor. Bir s\u00fcr\u00fc T\u00fcrkiyeli insan Ermenice \u00f6\u011freniyor, bir s\u00fcr\u00fc Ermenistan`l\u0131 insan T\u00fcrk\u00e7e biliyor ve Ermenistan\u2019da sokaktaki insan\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye bak\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131n epeyce olumlu oldu\u011funu da biliyoruz. Ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de de bak\u0131\u015f s\u00fcratle de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Mesela \u015fu anda kendi ailelerinde Ermeni olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 merak edenler b\u00fcy\u00fck say\u0131lara ula\u015fm\u0131\u015f durumda. Ve kendi ailesinde bir Ermeni buldu\u011fu zaman da art\u0131k kimse \u00fcz\u00fclm\u00fcyor, aksine ho\u015funa gidiyor. Bunu bir zenginlik olarak alg\u0131l\u0131yor. Ba\u015fka bir toplumsal yap\u0131 var ve bu enerji muhakkak siyasete yans\u0131yacak ve siyaset\u00e7ileri zorlayacakt\u0131r. Ama bu hemen olmayabilir \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc Azerbaycan\u2019dan petrol var, Karaba\u011f meselesi var. Tabii ki b\u00fct\u00fcn bu meseleler oldu\u011fu s\u00fcrece bir ayak ba\u011flan\u0131r. \u00a0<\/p>\n

– Siz AK Partinin 10 y\u0131l daha iktidarda kalaca\u011f\u0131 ihtimali hakk\u0131nda bahsettiniz. Sizce \u201cYeni T\u00fcrkiye\u201d nas\u0131l bir T\u00fcrkiye olacak?<\/b><\/p>\n

AK Partisi kendini de\u011fi\u015ftimezse islami kesimini y\u00f6netemez.<\/i><\/b>
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\n– AK Parti gelecek se\u00e7imleri kazan\u0131rsa ben T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki ortam\u0131n\u0131n epeyce de\u011fi\u015fece\u011fini, yumu\u015faca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. B\u00f6yle bir ad\u0131m at\u0131lmazsa AK Parti \u0130slami kesimi de y\u00f6netemez. T\u00fcrkiye \u00f6yle bir noktaya geldi ki, bu kavga var oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in \u0130slami kesim AK partinin yanl\u0131\u015flar\u0131na raz\u0131 oluyor. Yanl\u0131\u015f yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rmezden gelmiyor ama hakl\u0131 buluyor, ama e\u011fer bu d\u00f6nem biter ve bir s\u00fcr\u00fc insan\u0131n s\u00f6yledi\u011fi gibi AK Partisi otoriterle\u015fir ise o zaman T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi y\u00f6netemez. Onun i\u00e7in kendini de\u011fi\u015ftirecektir, o zaten \u00f6yle de istiyor.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Astghik \u0130gityan \/\u00a0\u0130stanbul<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

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Son\u00a0g\u00fcnlerde Ba\u015fbakan\u00a0Ahmet Davuto\u011flu\u2019nun ba\u015f dan\u0131\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131na atanan \u201cAk\u015fam\u201d gazetesi\u00a0 yazar\u0131\u00a0 Ermeni as\u0131ll\u0131\u00a0Etyen Mah\u00e7upyan,\u00a0atanmas\u0131, faaliyet alan\u0131, Ermeni-T\u00fcrk ili\u015fkileri ve \u201cYeni T\u00fcrkiye\u201d perspektifleri\u00a0konusunda Ermenihaber.am\u2019e\u00a0 \u00f6zel\u00a0bir\u00a0r\u00f6portaj verdi: – Ermenistan\u2019da ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de baz\u0131 insanlar atanman\u0131z\u0131 Ermenistan- T\u00fcrkiye ili\u015fkilerinde \u00f6nemli bir ad\u0131m olarak niteliyorlar. 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