{"id":31655,"date":"2014-09-19T04:41:20","date_gmt":"2014-09-19T09:41:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=31655"},"modified":"2014-09-19T04:41:20","modified_gmt":"2014-09-19T09:41:20","slug":"sahibinden-satilik-ermeni-koyu-aris-nalci-t24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=31655","title":{"rendered":"Sahibinden sat\u0131l\u0131k Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc \u2013 Aris Nalc\u0131 (T24)"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\u0540\u0561\u0575\u056f\u0561\u056f\u0561\u0576<\/a>Selamlar abi ben sizin sahibinden.com\u2019daki ilan\u0131n\u0131z ile ilgileniyorum.<\/em><\/p>\n

-Evet buyur abicim\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

– Bu sat\u0131l\u0131k eski Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc, tam nerde?<\/em><\/p>\n

– Bu Orhangazi yaz\u0131yor ama Bursa yolunda Gemlik\u2019e do\u011fru oras\u0131 Asayi\u015f ve G\u00fcvenli K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2019ne yak\u0131n.<\/em><\/p>\n

– Eski Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc diyorsun. \u015eimdi oras\u0131 nas\u0131l bir yer?<\/em><\/p>\n

– Valla kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k de\u011fil merek etme buras\u0131. Laz\u2019\u0131, \u00c7erkez\u2019i falan gibi \u015feyler yok.<\/em><\/p>\n

– Nas\u0131l yani?<\/em><\/p>\n

– Muhacir buran\u0131n hepsi. Merak etme kolay bir yer yani.<\/em><\/p>\n

– Peki ben ay sonu gelsem bakar m\u0131y\u0131z altyap\u0131s\u0131 var m\u0131?<\/em><\/p>\n

– Var var, ta\u015fl\u0131k buras\u0131 otobana yak\u0131n ama k\u00f6y\u00fcn t\u00fcm altyap\u0131s\u0131 var. Yani biz ilana her \u015feyi yazd\u0131k ki sonradan yalan olmas\u0131n. Oras\u0131 eskiden Ermeni mezarl\u0131\u011f\u0131ym\u0131\u015f.<\/em><\/p>\n

– Nas\u0131l yani mezarl\u0131k ise Mezarl\u0131klar M\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc\u2019ne ba\u011fl\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n?<\/em><\/p>\n

– Yok burada tar\u0131m yaparken eski sahipleri kemiklere rastlam\u0131\u015flar. Yani ev-mev yaparken korkmayas\u0131n diye s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorum.<\/em><\/p>\n

Bu konu\u015fma ger\u00e7ekten yap\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n

Ermeni soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131na farkl\u0131 bir bak\u0131\u015f atan\u00a0\u201cNinemin D\u00f6vmeleri\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0adl\u0131 filmin y\u00f6netmeni\u00a0Suzan Khardalyan\u2019\u0131n\u00a0<\/strong>sosyal medyada payla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 bu ilan \u00fczerine internetten buldu\u011fum sevgili Gemlik Orhangazi\u2019li emlak\u00e7\u0131 M.\u0130. ile irtibata ge\u00e7ti\u011fimde bu konu\u015fmay\u0131 yapt\u0131k.<\/p>\n

Tabii ki bir al\u0131c\u0131 gibi davranacakt\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Yoksa cevap alamazd\u0131m.<\/p>\n

2015 yakla\u015f\u0131p da, devlet erkan\u0131 sanki Ermenilerle ilgileniyormu\u015f gibi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 her seferinde sempati ve empatinin artaca\u011f\u0131 yerde Ermenilerin alt\u0131nlar\u0131 ve Ermenilerin el konulan sat\u0131l\u0131klar\u0131 \u00fczerine y\u00fczlerce mail al\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

Haftalard\u0131r Musin arkda\u015f\u0131m sosyal medyadan\u00a0\u201cGel de Mu\u015f\u2019taki \u015fu alt\u0131nlar\u0131 bulal\u0131m\u201d<\/b><\/em>\u00a0diyor.<\/p>\n

Gazi Osman Pa\u015fa\u2019daki defineciler kahvesinin hikayesiyle birlikte Mu\u015f\u2019a gitti\u011fimde Muhsin\u2019le ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131 da sizlere yazaca\u011f\u0131m mutlaka ama bu kez bu ilanlarla ilgili meselem.<\/p>\n

Evet, evet gidece\u011fim. Bir defineciye e\u015flik edece\u011fim bakal\u0131m ikna edebilecek miyim kiliseleri ve eski mezarlar\u0131 tahrip etmemelerine. Ve ederlerse e\u011fer kendi elimle polise verece\u011fim bakal\u0131m onlar ne yapacaklar.<\/p>\n

Bir \u015fey yapacaklar\u0131n\u0131 sanmam ama ben bu deneyimi ya\u015famal\u0131y\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Ermeni ve Rumlar\u0131n g\u00f6m\u00fclerine umut ba\u011flayan binlerce insan\u0131n halet-i ruhiyesini anlamak i\u00e7in bunu yapmal\u0131y\u0131m.<\/p>\n

\u0130nsanlar benimle empati yapmaya dursun ben onlarla empati yapmal\u0131y\u0131m derdimi anlatabilmek i\u00e7in.<\/p>\n

Neyse internet sitesinde \u201csat\u0131l\u0131k eski Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc\u201d ba\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcnce akl\u0131ma gelmedik \u015fey kalmad\u0131.<\/p>\n

Bu arada sat\u0131l\u0131k k\u00f6yleri g\u00f6rmek isterseniz buyurun linkleri;<\/p>\n

Biri 105 bin<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.sahibinden.com\/ilan\/emlak-arsa-satilik-asil-yatirimdan-700-yillik-eski-ermeni-yerlesim-yeri-174748885\/detay\/<\/a><\/p>\n

Di\u011feri 75 bin<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.sahibinden.com\/ilan\/emlak-arsa-satilik-asil-yatirimdan-700-yillik-eski-ermeni-koyu-174747945\/detay<\/a><\/p>\n

\u00e7ok daha pahal\u0131 de\u011filler\u2026<\/p>\n

KARSAK K\u00d6Y\u00dc<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bu arada bilgi de vereyim efem bu bahsi ge\u00e7en sat\u0131l\u0131k k\u00f6y arazileri ve meyve bah\u00e7eleri harita \u00fczerinden anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m ve yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck ara\u015ft\u0131rma sonucunda tahmini olarak Ermenilerin Gemlik\u2019teki\u00a0Karsak<\/strong>\u00a0K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2019d\u00fcr.<\/p>\n

Bursa\u2019ya 42, Orhangazi\u2019ye 11 km uzakl\u0131kta.<\/p>\n

K\u00f6y\u00fcn hangi tarihte kuruldu\u011fu bilinmemekle beraber k\u00f6yde bulunan eski kilise enkaz\u0131ndan ve Ma\u015fatl\u0131k mevkiindeki Rum ve Ermenilere ait mezarlar var.\u00a0(Sat\u0131l\u0131k arazi buras\u0131 i\u015fte)<\/b><\/em><\/p>\n

Cumhuriyet d\u00f6nemine kadar k\u00f6y\u00fcn ekseriyetini Rumlar ve Ermeniler te\u015fkil ediyordu. Cumhuriyetten sonra Trakya\u2019dan gelen g\u00f6\u00e7menler, Rum ve Ermenilerin yerini alm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r.<\/p>\n

Bir rivayete g\u00f6re 1900lerin ba\u015f\u0131nda buraya Bulgaristan\u2019dan gelen g\u00f6\u00e7menler yerle\u015ftirilmek istenmi\u015fti.<\/p>\n

Ancak bu k\u00f6ylerdeki Ermeniler buna izin vermemi\u015fler.<\/p>\n

Olaylar b\u00fcy\u00fcm\u00fc\u015f ve d\u00f6nemin jandarmas\u0131 m\u00fcdahale etmi\u015f ve Karsak\u2019\u0131n yukar\u0131s\u0131na a\u015fa\u011f\u0131s\u0131na iki farkl\u0131 k\u00f6y kurum Bulgaristan\u2019dan gelen T\u00fcrkleri buraya yerle\u015ftirmi\u015fler. O k\u00f6ylerin adlar\u0131 da Asayi\u015f ve G\u00fcvenli olmu\u015f.<\/p>\n

Ne anlaml\u0131 de\u011fil mi?<\/p>\n

1915 ve sonras\u0131nda bo\u015falt\u0131lan, soyu k\u0131r\u0131lan, s\u00fcrg\u00fcn edilen Ermeni k\u00f6ylerinden yerler bo\u015fal\u0131nca o di\u011fer iki k\u00f6y\u00fcn arazisi geni\u015flemi\u015f ve aradaki Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc haritadan yok olup di\u011fer k\u00f6ylerin arazilerine dahil olmu\u015f.<\/p>\n

Anla\u015f\u0131lan mezarl\u0131k pek de ra\u011fbet edilen bir yer olmam\u0131\u015f ki 2014\u2019e kadar kimse el s\u00fcrmemi\u015f\u2026<\/p>\n

Gemlik Ermenileriyle ilgili ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bilgi almak isterseniz;<\/strong><\/p>\n

http:\/\/team-aow.discuforum.info\/t3580-Gemlik-Kazasi.htm<\/p>\n

ERMEN\u0130 ANTENLER\u0130M\u0130Z<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ben bazen biz Ermenilerin bizli antenleri oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.
\nNereye d\u00fc\u015fersek bir Ermeni buluyoruz.
\nBunda ustay\u0131z. \u2018Az<\/strong>\u2019l\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zdan kaynaklan\u0131yor herhalde.
\nBir tane bile fazla oldu\u011fumuzu bilsek daha iyi hissediyoruz kendimiz.<\/p>\n

\u201cBak \u00c7in\u2019de bile var\u0131z\u201d diyoruz.\u00a0(Ki orada geni\u015f bir Ermeni toplum var \ud83d\ude42<\/b><\/em><\/p>\n

Neyse arada Linda\u2019yla internette sahibinden, gittigidiyor, ebay vb sitelerde\u00a0arama\u00a0<\/strong>b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fcne\u00a0Ermeni\u00a0<\/strong>veya\u00a0Armenian\u00a0<\/strong>yazar\u0131z.<\/p>\n

\u00c7\u0131kanlara hayret edeceksiniz\u2026<\/p>\n

Sahte eskitmeli \u00fczerinde Rumca yaz\u0131l\u0131 tabaklar<\/p>\n

Define haritas\u0131 oldu\u011fu savunulan ka\u011f\u0131tlar<\/p>\n

\u0130\u015fte sat\u0131l\u0131k Ermeni k\u00f6yleri<\/p>\n

Tabii d\u00fczg\u00fcn \u015feyler de \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

Eski belge<\/p>\n

Kitap<\/p>\n

Dergi<\/p>\n

Kartpostal<\/p>\n

Foto\u011fraf<\/p>\n

Plak<\/p>\n

Cd<\/p>\n

Ve daha niceleri\u2026<\/p>\n

Bu beni iyi hissettirdi\u011fi kadar k\u00f6t\u00fc de hissettiriyor. Zira bu eskilerin oraya d\u00fc\u015fmesinin sebebi art\u0131k ya sahiplerinin ya\u015famamas\u0131 ya da bir yerlerden \u2018arak\u2019lanm\u0131\u015f olmas\u0131\u2026<\/p>\n

Bizim \u015ei\u015fli\u2019deki evin k\u00f6\u015fesinde bir antikac\u0131 vard\u0131.<\/p>\n

Antikac\u0131n\u0131n kendisi de antikayd\u0131.<\/p>\n

Her hafta Cuma g\u00fcnleri bir araba yana\u015f\u0131r \u00f6n\u00fcne ve bavulla belge bo\u015falt\u0131rd\u0131.<\/p>\n

Eski p\u00fcst\u00fc \u015feyler, ama \u00e7uvalla\u2026<\/p>\n

Bir g\u00fcn \u00f6lenlerin bo\u015falan evlerinden ald\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendim bu ka\u011f\u0131tlar\u0131 ve eskileri.<\/p>\n

\u0130\u00e7eri girdi\u011fimde \u00e7uval dolusu ka\u011f\u0131d\u0131n i\u00e7erisinde saatlerce kayboldum.<\/p>\n

Bir Ermeni doktorun Paris\u2019te \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rken kar\u0131s\u0131na yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 mektuplard\u0131.<\/p>\n

Evden toplarken\u00a0(araklarken)\u00a0<\/em>hi\u00e7 korunmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131.<\/p>\n

Sayfalar y\u0131rt\u0131k p\u0131rt\u0131k, zar zor okunuyor.<\/p>\n

Birinci sayfa varsa ikincisi yok.<\/p>\n

Allahtan \u00f6nl\u00fc arkal\u0131 yazm\u0131\u015f baz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131.<\/p>\n

Bir de doktor el yaz\u0131s\u0131 ile Ermenice.<\/p>\n

Ancak tutturuyorsun baz\u0131 kelimeleri.<\/p>\n

Ama her mektubun arkas\u0131nda bir \u015fiir vard\u0131.<\/p>\n

Neyse ben d\u00fckkana girdi\u011fimde \u00e7uval\u0131 100 TL\u2019ye satacakt\u0131 adam neredeyse.<\/p>\n

\u201cDur bakay\u0131m\u201d deyip de okumaya ve kendimi doktorun \u015fiirlerinde kaybolmu\u015f bulunca mektup ba\u015f\u0131na 25 TL oldu o\u2026<\/p>\n

\u00c7uval binlerce TL\u2019ye mal olacak.<\/p>\n

Sonunda kavga ettim adamla ve \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131m.<\/p>\n

Her ge\u00e7ti\u011fimde de hala ters ters bakar.<\/p>\n

Ge\u00e7en bakt\u0131m h\u00e2l\u00e2 mektuplar orada, satamam\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n

\u0130lgilenenler i\u00e7in; Reha Yurdakul Soka\u011f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n giri\u015finde kendisi.<\/p>\n

http:\/\/www.sendika.org\/2014\/09\/sahibinden-satilik-ermeni-koyu-aris-nalci-t24\/<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Selamlar abi ben sizin sahibinden.com\u2019daki ilan\u0131n\u0131z ile ilgileniyorum. -Evet buyur abicim\u2026 – Bu sat\u0131l\u0131k eski Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc, tam nerde? – Bu Orhangazi yaz\u0131yor ama Bursa yolunda Gemlik\u2019e do\u011fru oras\u0131 Asayi\u015f ve G\u00fcvenli K\u00f6y\u00fc\u2019ne yak\u0131n. – Eski Ermeni k\u00f6y\u00fc diyorsun. \u015eimdi oras\u0131 nas\u0131l bir yer? – Valla kar\u0131\u015f\u0131k de\u011fil merek etme buras\u0131. 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