{"id":29983,"date":"2014-05-20T01:38:23","date_gmt":"2014-05-20T06:38:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=29983"},"modified":"2014-05-20T01:38:23","modified_gmt":"2014-05-20T06:38:23","slug":"tarihciler-acik-arsivleri-anlatiyor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=29983","title":{"rendered":"Tarih\u00e7iler \u2018a\u00e7\u0131k\u2019 ar\u015fivleri anlat\u0131yor"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"\u0561\u0580\u056d\u056b\u057e\"<\/a>UYGAR G\u00dcLTEK\u0130N<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n \u2018taziye mesaj\u0131\u2019n\u0131n en \u00f6nemli vurgular\u0131ndan biri ar\u015fivlerdi. Erdo\u011fan mesaj\u0131nda \u201cAr\u015fivlerimizi b\u00fct\u00fcn ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar\u0131n kullan\u0131m\u0131na a\u00e7t\u0131k. Bug\u00fcn ar\u015fivlerimizde bulunan y\u00fcz binlerce belge, b\u00fct\u00fcn tarih\u00e7ilerin hizmetine sunulmaktad\u0131r\u201d diyordu. Tarih\u00e7iler Prof. Taner Ak\u00e7am ve Prof. Ayhan Aktar ATASE ar\u015fivi belgelerine \u00f6zg\u00fcrce ula\u015f\u0131lamad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n alt\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7iziyor. <\/i><\/b><\/p>\n

Ba\u015fbakan Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n 23 Nisan\u2019da yay\u0131nlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u2018taziye mesaj\u0131\u2019n\u0131n en \u00f6nemli vurgular\u0131ndan biri ar\u015fivlerdi. Erdo\u011fan mesaj\u0131nda \u201cAr\u015fivlerimizi b\u00fct\u00fcn ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar\u0131n kullan\u0131m\u0131na a\u00e7t\u0131k. Bug\u00fcn ar\u015fivlerimizde bulunan y\u00fcz binlerce belge, b\u00fct\u00fcn tarih\u00e7ilerin hizmetine sunulmaktad\u0131r\u201d diyordu.<\/p>\n

Durum ger\u00e7ekten \u00f6yle mi? T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de devlet ar\u015fivlerinde ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar istedikleri gibi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fabiliyor mu? Mesaj\u0131n ard\u0131ndan ar\u015fivlerin durumu yeniden g\u00fcndeme geldi.<\/p>\n

Tarih\u00e7i Prof. Oktay \u00d6zel, Radikal\u2019de 7 May\u0131s\u2019ta yay\u0131mlanan yaz\u0131s\u0131nda, ar\u015fivlerin durumunun Ba\u015fbakan\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na dikkat \u00e7ekti. Genelkurmay Askeri Tarih ve Stratejik Et\u00fcd Dairesi Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n k\u0131saca ATASE ad\u0131yla bilinen ar\u015fivinin \u00f6nemine \u015fu ifadelerle dikkat \u00e7ekti: \u201cBa\u015fta Ba\u015fbakan olmak \u00fczere h\u00fck\u00fcmetin de kamuoyunun da net olarak bilmesi gerek. S\u00f6z konusu ar\u015fiv teorik olarak zaman\u0131n Osmanl\u0131 h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin Birinci D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131 esnas\u0131nda Harbiye Nezareti (Enver Pa\u015fa) \u00fczerinden sivil asker b\u00fct\u00fcn birimlerle ve ba\u015fta Dahiliye Nezareti (Talat Pa\u015fa) olmak \u00fczere ilgili b\u00fct\u00fcn bakanl\u0131klarla ‘s\u0131k\u0131y\u00f6netim ko\u015fullar\u0131’ alt\u0131nda ve tehcir uygulamas\u0131 da dahil olmak \u00fczere \u00e7e\u015fitli konularda yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 b\u00fct\u00fcn yaz\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 i\u00e7eriyor. Yani ‘1915’ i\u00e7in Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Ar\u015fivi\u2019nin Dahiliye Nezareti ve Emniyet-i Umumiye M\u00fcd\u00fcriyeti\u2019ne ait yaz\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 i\u00e7eren tasnifleriyle birlikte en \u00f6nemli ve kritik belge k\u00fcmesi, ATASE ar\u015fivindeki bu yaz\u0131\u015fmalard\u0131r. Bunlar olmadan yap\u0131lacak her \u00e7al\u0131\u015fman\u0131n eksik, yan\u0131lt\u0131c\u0131 ve tek tarafl\u0131 bir resim sunmas\u0131 ka\u00e7\u0131n\u0131lmaz. Nitekim \u00f6yle de oluyor. Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k bildirisinin ilgili oldu\u011fu konu a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan kritik \u00f6nemdeki bu ar\u015fiv, tam anlam\u0131yla ‘a\u00e7\u0131k’ bir ar\u015fiv say\u0131lamaz. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc oradaki malzemenin tamam\u0131, ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar\u0131n \u00f6zg\u00fcrce incelemesine a\u00e7\u0131k de\u011fil. Genelkurmay\u2019\u0131n y\u00f6netiminde bir daire olarak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan ATASE ar\u015fivinde bulunan onca belgeye tarih\u00e7iler do\u011frudan ve \u00f6zg\u00fcrce ula\u015fam\u0131yorlar.\u201d<\/p>\n

Ar\u015fivlerle ilgili ger\u00e7ekleri sordu\u011fumuz iki tarih\u00e7i Prof. Taner Ak\u00e7am<\/strong> ve Prof. Ayhan Aktar<\/strong> da Oktay \u00d6zel ile ayn\u0131 fikirdeler.<\/p>\n

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\u2018ATASE\u2019nin tamam\u0131 kapal\u0131\u2019<\/h1>\n

Prof. Ayhan Aktar, ar\u015fivlerin durumunu de\u011ferlendirdi. \u201cAr\u015fivler tamamen a\u00e7\u0131k demek anlams\u0131zd\u0131r\u201d diyen Aktar, Genelkurmay Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ar\u015fivinin durumuna dikkat \u00e7ekti.<\/p>\n

“D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ar\u015fivleri k\u00fclliyen kapal\u0131d\u0131r. Genelkurmay Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n ATASE diye bilinen ar\u015fivi ise\u00a0 k\u00e2\u011f\u0131t \u00fczerinde a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r. ATASE\u2019de \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak imk\u00e2ns\u0131zd\u0131r. Burada, evraklar\u0131n orijinallerini g\u00f6rmeniz m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildir. \u00d6n denetim vard\u0131r. \u0130stediklerini g\u00f6sterirler. B\u00f6yle ar\u015fivcilik olmaz. Ben \u0130ngiliz resmi ar\u015fivinde II. D\u00fcnya Sava\u015f\u0131 d\u00f6neminin ba\u015fbakan\u0131 Winston Churchill\u2019in mektuplar\u0131n\u0131, notlar\u0131n\u0131 okudum. Kimse bana, \u2018Hay\u0131r, bunu sana vermeyiz\u2019 demedi. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de hi\u00e7 kimse bana \u2018ar\u015fivler a\u00e7\u0131k\u2019 demesin. Sadece Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Osmanl\u0131 Ar\u015fivleri a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r, iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaktad\u0131r. D\u00fcnyan\u0131n hi\u00e7bir milli ar\u015fivinde her \u015feyi bulamazs\u0131n\u0131z. Her zaman bir otosans\u00fcr ve bir perdeleme vard\u0131r. Bunun y\u00fczde ka\u00e7 oran\u0131nda oldu\u011fu \u00f6nemlidir. ATASE\u2019de ise tamam\u0131 kapal\u0131. Bas\u0131nda yer alm\u0131\u015ft\u0131: 1915\u2019le ilgili sevkiyat belgesi var ama kapal\u0131. Anadolu\u2019nun her \u015fehrinde, g\u00f6nderilen Ermenilerin listesi, kafilenin ba\u015f\u0131ndaki jandarmaya verilmi\u015f. Bu belgelerin var oldu\u011funu biliyoruz ama bunlara ula\u015fam\u0131yoruz<\/strong>.”<\/p>\n

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Taner Ak\u00e7am:\u00a0Belgeler hallolunmu\u015ftur<\/h1>\n

\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye’de soyk\u0131r\u0131ma dair en \u00f6nemli belgeler hangi ar\u015fivlerdedir?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

En \u00f6nemli ar\u015fivler, \u0130stanbul Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Osmanl\u0131 Ar\u015fivi ile ATASE k\u0131sa ad\u0131yla bilinen Genelkurmay Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ar\u015fivleridir. Bunun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131’n\u0131n kendi ar\u015fivi ile K\u0131z\u0131lay gibi ba\u015fka ar\u015fivler de s\u00f6z konusudur.<\/p>\n

\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0Hangi ar\u015fivlere ula\u015f\u0131labilir? Hangileri tasnif edilmi\u015ftir?<\/strong><\/h3>\n

En d\u00fczenli olan ve ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lara iyi hizmet veren ar\u015fiv \u0130stanbul Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Ar\u015fivi\u2019dir. Bu ar\u015fivde tasnif \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131, bildi\u011fim kadar\u0131yla h\u00e2l\u00e2 devam etmektedir. \u00d6rne\u011fin konumuzla ilgili \u00f6nemli belgelere sahip olan Dahiliye Nezareti\u2019nin \u00e7e\u015fitli dairelerine ili\u015fkin s\u00fcrekli yeni belgeler eklenmektedir. Genelkurmay Askeri Ar\u015fivi (ATASE) ise pratik olarak kapal\u0131d\u0131r. Bu ar\u015five ula\u015fmak \u00e7ok \u00f6zel izne t\u00e2bidir. Yak\u0131n zamana kadar ba\u015fvuru formu bile yoktu. Bu ar\u015five \u00f6zel izin al\u0131p, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma \u015fans\u0131na sahip olmu\u015f baz\u0131 ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131lar, bu ar\u015fivdeki tasniflerin tamamlanmam\u0131\u015f oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylerler. Bu ar\u015fivin bir an \u00f6nce Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Ar\u015fivi\u2019ne ba\u011flanmas\u0131 ve ayn\u0131 d\u00fczeyde hizmet verir hale getirilmesi gerekir.<\/p>\n

\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Pek \u00e7ok belgenin imha edilmi\u015f olmas\u0131 m\u00fcmk\u00fcn m\u00fc?\u00a0<\/h3>\n

Belgelerin imha edilmi\u015f olmas\u0131 olas\u0131l\u0131k de\u011fil, bir hakikattir. 1918’den sonra ar\u015fivlerde temizlik yap\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, Kas\u0131m 1918\u2019den sonra kurulan h\u00fck\u00fcmetlerin bakanlar\u0131 bizzat s\u00f6yler. Ermenilerin s\u00fcrg\u00fcn ve imhas\u0131 ile ilgili olarak \u0130ttihat\u00e7\u0131lar aleyhine a\u00e7\u0131lan davalarda, savc\u0131l\u0131k makam\u0131 haz\u0131rlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 iddianamede, ilgili bakanl\u0131klardan gelen bu yaz\u0131lara yer verir. Temizlik, \u00f6zellikle Dahiliye Nezareti evrak\u0131 aras\u0131nda yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. 1919\u2019da, sava\u015f y\u0131llar\u0131n\u0131n Posta ve Telgraf Bakan\u0131 hakk\u0131nda, belge imha etmekten dolay\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131lm\u0131\u015f bir dava dahi bulunmaktad\u0131r. Ben, \u2018Ermeni Meselesi Hallolunmu\u015ftur\u2019 adl\u0131 kitab\u0131mda, ar\u015fivlerde yap\u0131lan bu temizliklere ili\u015fkin ayr\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bilgiler verdim.<\/p>\n

Ar\u015fivlerin temizlenmesi bir tek 1918-19 y\u0131llar\u0131na ait de\u011fildir. \u00d6rne\u011fin 1980 sonras\u0131nda ATASE ar\u015fivinde de temizlik yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ve baz\u0131 belgeler \u2018imha edilmek \u00fczere\u2019 ayr\u0131lm\u0131\u015flard\u0131r. Bana bu hik\u00e2yeyi, bizzat bu temizlik i\u015finde g\u00f6rev alan bir tarih\u00e7inin kendisi anlatt\u0131. Belki eklenebilecek son bilgi de \u015fudur: Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Ar\u015fivi, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmas\u0131ndaki t\u00fcm d\u00fczenlili\u011fe ve profesyonelli\u011fe ra\u011fmen, konumuzla ilgili t\u00fcm belgeleri ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131n\u0131n hizmetine sunmamakta; sunamamaktad\u0131r.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00b7\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u00d6zellikle Genelkurmay Ar\u015fivleri tart\u0131\u015fma konusu. Siz istedi\u011finiz zaman bu ar\u015fivlerde ara\u015ft\u0131rma yapabiliyor musunuz?<\/h3>\n

Ben bu ar\u015fivde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmak i\u00e7in ba\u015fvuruda bulunmad\u0131m. Hem izin verilmeyece\u011fini bildi\u011fim, hem de \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma ko\u015fullar\u0131 itibar\u0131yla gitmenin anlams\u0131z oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in\u2026 Bu ar\u015five giren ve \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan baz\u0131 akademisyenler, \u00f6rne\u011fin Oktay \u00d6zel ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 deneyimleri \u00e7e\u015fitli vesilelerle aktarm\u0131\u015f bulunuyor. Konunuza ili\u015fkin belge istedi\u011finizde, size sadece kendi istedikleri birka\u00e7 belgeyi getirmek \u00fczerine oturan tuhaf bir sistemleri var\u2026 Bu ar\u015fivin kapal\u0131 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemek en do\u011fru ifade tarz\u0131d\u0131r. Say\u0131n Ba\u015fbakan, 1915’e ili\u015fkin b\u00fcy\u00fck laflar etmeden \u00f6nce, kendisine ba\u011fl\u0131 olan bu ar\u015fivin a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 sa\u011flarsa \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir i\u015f yapm\u0131\u015f olur.<\/p>\n

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