{"id":27776,"date":"2014-01-09T03:25:07","date_gmt":"2014-01-09T08:25:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=27776"},"modified":"2014-01-09T03:25:07","modified_gmt":"2014-01-09T08:25:07","slug":"kck-esbaskani-hozatin-ermeni-ve-rum-lobileri-paralel-devlet-aciklamasina-tepki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=27776","title":{"rendered":"KCK E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Hozat\u2019\u0131n \u2018Ermeni ve Rum lobileri paralel devlet\u2019 a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131na tepki"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/Bese-Hozat.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-27777\" alt=\"Bese Hozat\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/01\/Bese-Hozat-300x218.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"218\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2014\/01\/Bese-Hozat-300x218.jpg 300w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2014\/01\/Bese-Hozat.jpg 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>EMRE ERTAN\u0130<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>KCK E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Bese Hozat, F\u0131rat Haber Ajans\u0131\u2019na verdi\u011fi m\u00fclakatta \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de resmi devletin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bir de paralel devletler vard\u0131r. Mesela G\u00fclen cemaati paralel bir devlettir. \u0130srail lobisi, yine milliyet\u00e7i Ermeni ve Rum lobileri paralel birer devlettir\u201d s\u00f6zleriyle Anadolu k\u00f6kenli topluluklar\u0131 hedef ald\u0131. Agos yazarlar\u0131, KCK E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131\u2019n\u0131n bu a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131 agos.com.tr i\u00e7in de\u011ferlendirdi.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">KCK Y\u00fcr\u00fctme Konseyi E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Bese Hozat, Paris Katliam\u0131\u2019n\u0131n birinci y\u0131ld\u00f6n\u00fcm\u00fcnde F\u0131rat Haber Ajans\u0131\u2019na verdi\u011fi m\u00fclakatta \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de resmi devletin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bir de olu\u015fan paralel devletler vard\u0131r. Mesela F. G\u00fclen cemaati paralel bir devlettir. \u0130srail lobisi, yine milliyet\u00e7i Ermeni ve Rum lobileri paralel birer devlettir\u201d s\u00f6zleriyle Anadolu k\u00f6kenli topluluklar\u0131 hedefe yerle\u015ftirdi.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">KCK Y\u00fcr\u00fctme Konseyi E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Bese Hozat\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131klamas\u0131n\u0131n ilgili b\u00f6l\u00fcm\u00fc \u015f\u00f6yle:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de resmi devletin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bir de olu\u015fan paralel devletler vard\u0131r. Mesela F. G\u00fclen cemaati paralel bir devlettir. \u0130srail lobisi, yine milliyet\u00e7i Ermeni ve Rum lobileri paralel birer devlettir. Paralel devletlerin birbiriyle ortakla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 ciddi bir \u00e7\u0131kar ili\u015fkisi vard\u0131r. Paralel devletlerin resmi bir hukuklar\u0131, anayasalar\u0131 yoktur. G\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcrde resmiyete kavu\u015fmu\u015f bir ordular\u0131 da yoktur ama resmi olandan daha g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc ve \u00f6rg\u00fctl\u00fc bir g\u00fcce sahiptirler.\u00a0 \u00d6zel Harp Dairesi ve J\u0130TEM gibi g\u00fc\u00e7ler paralel devletin vurucu g\u00fc\u00e7leridir, \u015fimdi buna resmi kimlikli emniyet, polis ve yarg\u0131 g\u00fc\u00e7leri de eklenmi\u015ftir. Bunlar\u0131n ba\u011fl\u0131 kald\u0131klar\u0131 hi\u00e7bir hukuk ve kural yoktur. T\u00fcm sava\u015f kurallar\u0131n\u0131 kendileri belirleyip uyguluyorlar, kimseye de bir hesap vermiyorlar. Paralel devletin korkun\u00e7lu\u011fu esas burada ortaya \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yor. Paralel devlet Gladyo devletidir, NATO destekli cemaatin ve lobilerin illegal devlet \u00f6rg\u00fctlenmesidir. As\u0131l amac\u0131, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin demokratikle\u015fmesini engellemektir.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Agos yazarlar\u0131, Yetvart Danzikyan, Rober Kopta\u015f ve Ohannes K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7da\u011f\u0131, KCK\u2019nin bu a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131 agos.com.tr i\u00e7in de\u011ferlendirdi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Yetvart Danzikyan: \u015ea\u015f\u0131rt\u0131c\u0131 ve can s\u0131k\u0131c\u0131<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bese Hozat\u2019\u0131n ifadelerine hayli benzer ifadeleri Abdullah \u00d6calan\u2019\u0131n Milliyet gazetesine s\u0131zan g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme kay\u0131tlar\u0131nda g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fck. O zaman Ermeni cemaati ve toplumda konuya duyarl\u0131 kesimler bu ifadeleri ele\u015ftirmi\u015fler, devletin klasik s\u00f6ylemiyle hayli benzerlik ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131na dikkat \u00e7ekmi\u015flerdi. Hatta ben de o zamanlar konuyla ilgili olarak Radikal gazetesinin internet sitesinde bir yaz\u0131 yazm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Aradan aylar ge\u00e7tikten sonra benzer ifadelerle bir kez daha kar\u015f\u0131la\u015fmak \u015fa\u015f\u0131rt\u0131c\u0131 ve can s\u0131k\u0131c\u0131. Demek ki b\u00fct\u00fcn o laflar\u0131 havaya etmi\u015fiz. A\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7as\u0131 art\u0131k ben \u015funu bekliyorum. Madem Ermeni ve Rum lobisi de bu \u2018paralel devlet\u2019 ile birlikte hareket ediyor (ki a\u00e7\u0131klamalarda bu zincir NATO ve Gladio\u2019ya kadar uzan\u0131yor)\u00a0 ve bu b\u00f6yle a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7a konu\u015fulabiliyor biraz daha ayr\u0131nt\u0131 bekliyoruz. Elde ne t\u00fcr bilgi ve belge var, payla\u015f\u0131rlarsa seviniriz. Zira hayli a\u011f\u0131r su\u00e7lamalar s\u00f6z konusu. Yok, e\u011fer bu bir kanaat olarak s\u00f6yleniyorsa toplumun bir kesiminde var olan Ermeni nefretini art\u0131rmaktan ba\u015fka bir i\u015fe yaramayacakt\u0131r maalesef. Toplumda belirleyici olan g\u00fc\u00e7ler aras\u0131ndaki her t\u00fcrl\u00fc kavgada d\u00f6n\u00fcp dola\u015f\u0131p az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n masaya s\u00fcr\u00fclmesi umutsuzluk yarat\u0131yor do\u011frusu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Rober Kopta\u015f: As\u0131l d\u00fczeltilmesi gereken<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bese Hozat\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6zleri Abdullah \u00d6calan\u2019\u0131n \u0130mral\u0131\u2019da yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131, ancak daha sonra S\u0131rr\u0131 S\u00fcreyya \u00d6nder ve Selahattin Demirta\u015f taraf\u0131ndan tevil edilen a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n bir tekrar\u0131. O zaman da bu s\u00f6zleri ele\u015ftirmi\u015f, T\u00fcrkler ve K\u00fcrtlerin, resmi ideolojinin \u201cdaimi d\u00fc\u015fman\u201d\u0131 Ermeniler, Rumlar ve Yahudileri hedef g\u00f6stererek in\u015fa edece\u011fi bir bar\u0131\u015f\u0131n hay\u0131r getirmeyece\u011fini s\u00f6ylemi\u015ftik. Zaten \u00d6calan\u2019\u0131 kibarca d\u00fczelten a\u00e7\u0131klamalar da bu ele\u015ftirilerden sonra gelmi\u015fti. G\u00f6r\u00fcnen o ki, AK Parti iktidar\u0131 ile G\u00fclen Cemaati aras\u0131ndaki sava\u015f etraf\u0131nda siyasi saflar yeniden olu\u015fturulurken, bu ayr\u0131mc\u0131 yakla\u015f\u0131m yeniden g\u00fcndeme s\u00fcr\u00fcl\u00fcyor. S\u00fcr\u00fcl\u00fcyor, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc Ermeniler, Rumlar, Yahudiler deyip, ard\u0131na da \u201clobi, komplo, gizli, kripto\u201d gibi birtak\u0131m malum kelimeleri eklediniz mi, s\u00f6ylediklerinizin i\u00e7eri\u011fine, tutarl\u0131 olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na bak\u0131lmaks\u0131z\u0131n, s\u00f6zlerinizin bolca al\u0131c\u0131s\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kar bu \u00fclkede.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">K\u00fcrt hareketi, \u015fu anki kaotik siyasi g\u00fcndemde, \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm s\u00fcrecinin baltalanmas\u0131ndan kayg\u0131lan\u0131yor. Bu, hakl\u0131 bir kayg\u0131. G\u00fclen Cemaati ile PKK-KCK-BDP aras\u0131nda \u00e7ok k\u00f6kl\u00fc bir \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma var ve mevcut iktidar da \u00d6calan ile \u00f6yle veya b\u00f6yle pazarl\u0131k halinde oldu\u011funa, onu nihayet muhatap kabul edebildi\u011fine g\u00f6re, K\u00fcrt hareketi Cemaat\u2019in sald\u0131r\u0131lar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 h\u00fck\u00fcmeti bir \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcde korumaya dikkat ediyor. Bu tutumun mant\u0131k d\u0131\u015f\u0131 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemek abes olur. Ancak bu pozisyon savunulurken kaba\u011f\u0131n yine gelip Ermenilerin, Rumlar\u0131n, Yahudilerin ba\u015f\u0131na patlamas\u0131, \u00fcstelik de bunun \u00d6zel Harp, J\u0130TEM, NATO gibi g\u00fc\u00e7 odaklar\u0131yla ili\u015fkili olarak dile getirilmesi ciddi bir siyasi analiz s\u0131\u011fl\u0131\u011f\u0131na i\u015faret ediyor. Bese Hozat\u2019\u0131n temsilcisi oldu\u011fu K\u00fcrt halk\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6nemli bir kesimi, Anadolu\u2019dan k\u00f6k\u00fc kaz\u0131nan halklar\u0131n ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 ciddi bir hesapla\u015fma ve y\u00fczle\u015fme \u00e7abas\u0131 i\u00e7indeyken, onun b\u00f6yle bayat ezberlerle konu\u015fmas\u0131 vahim bir kopuklu\u011fu i\u015faret ediyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ancak bu hatan\u0131n \u0131srarla yinelenmesi, as\u0131l, PKK-KCK-BDP \u00e7izgisinin Anadolu\u2019nun halklar\u0131yla ilgili genel yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n\u0131n sorunlu oldu\u011funu g\u00f6steriyor. K\u00fcrt hareketinin zaman zaman dile getirdi\u011fi \u201cBiz Cumhuriyet\u2019in asli\/kurucu unsuruyuz\u201d slogan\u0131nda da di\u011fer halklara d\u00f6n\u00fck ayn\u0131 d\u0131\u015flay\u0131c\u0131l\u0131k var. Burada kar\u015f\u0131m\u0131za \u00e7\u0131kan tablo, T\u00fcrkler ve K\u00fcrtlerin, d\u0131\u015fa kapanan, \u201ci\u00e7 ve d\u0131\u015f d\u00fc\u015fman\u201da haddini bildiren, \u00fcstelik bir de \u0130slami sosla bezenen birli\u011fi tablosu. Hele hele Ba\u015fbakan Erdo\u011fan\u2019\u0131n \u2018\u0130stiklal Sava\u015f\u0131\u2019 s\u00f6ylemini kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 bug\u00fcnlerde gelen bu a\u00e7\u0131klama ve bu tablo bana 1915\u2019ler karanl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rlat\u0131yor. Burada yine bir d\u00fczeltme gerekiyor. Ancak bu d\u00fczeltme sadece Hozat\u2019\u0131n s\u00f6zlerine de\u011fil, tam da bu temel ve sorunlu yakla\u015f\u0131ma ili\u015fkin olmal\u0131.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Ohannes K\u0131l\u0131\u00e7da\u011f\u0131: Vahim paranoya<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de devlet denen yap\u0131y\u0131 tan\u0131mlamak ve analiz etmek i\u00e7in farkl\u0131 s\u0131fatlar kullan\u0131labilir. \u0130\u015fte, &#8220;derin&#8221; derken \u015fimdi de &#8220;paralel&#8221; demeye ba\u015flad\u0131k. As\u0131l soru ise, bunlar\u0131n hangi noktalarda birle\u015fip hangi noktalarda ayr\u0131ld\u0131klar\u0131. S\u00f6zkonusu olan devletin hangi ilkelere g\u00f6re i\u015fleyece\u011fi, \u00f6nceliklerinin ne olaca\u011f\u0131, y\u00f6netimi alt\u0131ndaki kitleyi nas\u0131l tan\u0131mlayaca\u011f\u0131 ve tefrik edece\u011fi ise asl\u0131nda T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de devlet tektir. Bu noktalarda &#8220;d\u00fcz devlet&#8221;, &#8220;derin&#8221; veya &#8220;paralel&#8221; versiyonlar\u0131ndan pek de ayr\u0131lmaz. \u00d6rne\u011fin, T\u00fcrk ve M\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmayanlar\u0131n ikincil konumda olmalar\u0131, dolay\u0131s\u0131yla bast\u0131r\u0131lmalar\u0131, gerekirse bertaraf edilmeleri konusunda hemfikirdirler. &#8220;D\u00fcz devlet&#8221; bunu h\u00fck\u00fcmetiyle, meclisiyle, yasalar\u0131yla yapar, derin devlet silah\u0131yla, i\u015fkencesiyle. \u0130\u00e7inden ge\u00e7ti\u011fimiz \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma da taraflar\u0131n bu ilkelerde farkl\u0131la\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 i\u00e7in ya\u015fan\u0131yor de\u011fil. Birinin \u00f6tekinden, bireye de\u011fer veren daha \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck\u00e7\u00fc bir y\u00f6netim vaadi mi var ki?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bese Hozat&#8217;\u0131n \u0130srail lobisinin, milliyet\u00e7i Ermeni ve Rum lobilerinin birer paralel devlet oldu\u011funa dair s\u00f6zlerinin kast\u0131n\u0131 anlamad\u0131m. E\u011fer anlat\u0131lmak istenen bunlar\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de birer paralel devlet olduklar\u0131 ise bu o kadar g\u00fcl\u00fcn\u00e7t\u00fcr ki \u00fcst\u00fcne yorum yapmaya de\u011fer g\u00f6rmem. Sadece \u015fu kadar\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6ylerim: Ermeni ve Rum paranoyas\u0131, y\u0131llard\u0131r \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck ve &#8220;halklar\u0131n karde\u015fli\u011fi&#8221; m\u00fccadelesi verdi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen bir \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcn zihin d\u00fcnyas\u0131na kadar s\u0131zm\u0131\u015fsa durum sand\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zdan da vahimdir.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b><i>emreertani@agos.com.tr<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/haber.php?seo=kck-esbaskani-hozatin-ermeni-ve-rum-lobileri-paralel-devlet-aciklamasina-tepki&amp;haberid=6411\"><b><i>http:\/\/www.agos.com.tr\/haber.php?seo=kck-esbaskani-hozatin-ermeni-ve-rum-lobileri-paralel-devlet-aciklamasina-tepki&amp;haberid=6411<\/i><\/b><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>EMRE ERTAN\u0130 KCK E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131 Bese Hozat, F\u0131rat Haber Ajans\u0131\u2019na verdi\u011fi m\u00fclakatta \u201cT\u00fcrkiye\u2019de resmi devletin d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda bir de paralel devletler vard\u0131r. Mesela G\u00fclen cemaati paralel bir devlettir. \u0130srail lobisi, yine milliyet\u00e7i Ermeni ve Rum lobileri paralel birer devlettir\u201d s\u00f6zleriyle Anadolu k\u00f6kenli topluluklar\u0131 hedef ald\u0131. Agos yazarlar\u0131, KCK E\u015fba\u015fkan\u0131\u2019n\u0131n bu a\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131 agos.com.tr i\u00e7in de\u011ferlendirdi. 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