{"id":19364,"date":"2012-10-20T01:40:55","date_gmt":"2012-10-20T06:40:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=19364"},"modified":"2012-10-20T01:40:55","modified_gmt":"2012-10-20T06:40:55","slug":"ayni-anneannelerin-torunlariyiz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?p=19364","title":{"rendered":"Ayn\u0131 anneannelerin torunlar\u0131y\u0131z"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/?attachment_id=19365\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-19365\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-19365\" title=\"Khachig Mouradian\" src=\"http:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/Khachig-Mouradian-300x210.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2012\/10\/Khachig-Mouradian-300x210.jpg 300w, https:\/\/akunq.net\/tr\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/6\/2012\/10\/Khachig-Mouradian.jpg 590w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>Lilit Gasparyan<\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>ABD\u2019de yay\u0131mlanan Armenian Weekly\u2019nin yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni Khachig Mouradian, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni meselesi konusunda ya\u015fanan geli\u015fmeleri de\u011ferlendirdi. Mouradian, \u201cErmeni meselesi bug\u00fcn ya da yar\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclecek bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Sab\u0131rs\u0131z olup s\u00fcreci h\u0131zland\u0131rmaya kalkarsak hi\u00e7bir yere varamay\u0131z\u201d dedi. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em><strong>ABD\u2019de yay\u0131mlanan Armenian Weekly\u2019nin yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni Khachig Mouradian, diasporada gen\u00e7 ku\u015fa\u011f\u0131n en etkin entellekt\u00fcellerinden biri. Clark \u00dcniversitesi Soyk\u0131r\u0131m \u00c7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 program\u0131nda doktora \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131n yan\u0131 s\u0131ra, Noam Chomsky, Arundhati Roy, Paolo Coelho gibi isimlerle yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00f6yle\u015filerle de ad\u0131ndan s\u00f6z ettiren Mouradian&#8217;\u0131n aile k\u00f6kleri Konya, Kilis ve Adana&#8217;ya ula\u015f\u0131yor.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni meselesiyle ilgili tart\u0131\u015fma sizce hangi noktada?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u0130lerleme, duraklama ve geri ad\u0131m halleri i\u00e7 i\u00e7e. Zamana g\u00f6re tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n boyutu de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Fakat, genel bir istikamet s\u00f6z konusu&#8230; Merak ve ilgi art\u0131yor. Gazetecilerin ve ayd\u0131nlar\u0131n yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 de\u011fi\u015fiyor. Resmi teze uymayan yay\u0131nlar \u00e7o\u011falmaya ba\u015flad\u0131. \u00c7\u00f6z\u00fcme yakla\u015fabilmek i\u00e7in \u00f6ncelikle Ermenistan, \u0130stanbul Ermeni toplumu ve Diaspora\u2019ya y\u00f6nelik kal\u0131pla\u015fm\u0131\u015f fikirlerin de\u011fi\u015fmesi laz\u0131m\u2026 Uzun y\u0131llar burada yerli Ermeniler \u2018bizim\u2019 Ermeniler olarak, Ermenistan Ermenileri zavall\u0131, Diaspora Ermenileri ise k\u00f6t\u00fc, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi b\u00f6lmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan insanlar olarak kabul edildi. Bu \u00fc\u00e7 tabula\u015fm\u0131\u015f yakla\u015f\u0131m bug\u00fcn ge\u00e7mi\u015fteki kadar sert de\u011fil.\u00a0 Gazeteciler ve ayd\u0131nlar Diaspora\u2019da farkl\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerin var oldu\u011funun bilincinde.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Tabular ge\u00e7mi\u015fteki kadar sert de\u011fil dediniz. Olan bitenleri ve geli\u015fmeleri nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Baz\u0131 geli\u015fmeler ger\u00e7ek anlamda endi\u015fe verici, baz\u0131lar\u0131 ise takdir edilesi. Benim i\u00e7in \u00f6nemli olan sadece Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131 konu\u015fmak de\u011fil, yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n ne oldu\u011fu da \u00f6nemli. M\u00fchim olan derinlikli bir yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n sergilenmesi\u2026 Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131\u2019n\u0131n kabul\u00fc demokratikle\u015fmenin bir par\u00e7as\u0131 olarak g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Fakat benim i\u00e7in Soyk\u0131r\u0131m bir adalet meselesi ve bu \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli bir ay\u0131r\u0131m. Adalet demokrasiyle gelir diyenler de var. Oysa, ABD iki y\u00fcz y\u0131ldan beri demokratik bir \u00fclke oldu\u011funu gururla s\u00f6yl\u00fcyor ama Amerikan yerlilerinin katledilmesi hi\u00e7 g\u00fcndeme gelmiyor, \u00e7o\u011fu insan art\u0131k bunu bilmiyor. Demokrasi kendi ba\u015f\u0131na adaleti sa\u011flam\u0131yor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Anadolu\u2019yu <em>(Bat\u0131 Ermenistan\u0131-\u2018Akunq\u2019 web sayfas\u0131 y\u00f6neticileri)<\/em> \u00e7ok gezdiniz. Nelerle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z, neler hissettiniz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Anadolu\u2019da gezen Diaspora ya da Ermenistan Ermenilerinin y\u00fcz\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6rmeniz laz\u0131m\u2026 Bu, konuya farkl\u0131 bakman\u0131z\u0131 sa\u011flar. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de son y\u0131llarda anneannelerden s\u00f6z ediliyor. Onlar uzun y\u0131lar konu\u015famayan ve bug\u00fcn hik\u00e2yeleri su y\u00fcz\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131kan anneannelerdir. Diaspora derken bu hik\u00e2yeleri hat\u0131rlay\u0131n\u2026 Biz de anneannelerimizin hik\u00e2yeleriyle b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fck. Bizim b\u00fcy\u00fckannelerimiz T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki anneannelerin karde\u015fleridir. Bizi farkl\u0131 g\u00f6rmeyin, ayn\u0131 anneannelerin torunlar\u0131 oldu\u011fumuzu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn. Benim i\u00e7in o k\u00f6ylere geri d\u00f6nmek, anneannelerin bulu\u015fmas\u0131d\u0131r. Diyarbak\u0131r\u2019a, \u00f6nceden Ermenilerin ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 Sati k\u00f6y\u00fcne gittim. Orada Tukh Manuk Vank kilisesi var. Bug\u00fcn ayakta, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc camiye d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f. Kar\u015f\u0131dan trakt\u00f6rle ge\u00e7en adam bir bak\u0131\u015fta oran\u0131n yerlisi olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 anlad\u0131, nereli oldu\u011fumu sordu. Sonra da babas\u0131n\u0131n Ermeni oldu\u011funu ve 1915\u2019te Ermeniler o k\u00f6yden tehcire g\u00f6nderildi\u011finde 10 ya\u015f\u0131nda oldu\u011funu\u00a0 anlatt\u0131. Foto\u011fraf \u00e7ekilirken \u201cSar\u0131labilir miyim sana?\u201d dedi. Sar\u0131ld\u0131k. Foto\u011frafa bak\u0131nca aram\u0131zdaki benzerli\u011fe \u015fa\u015f\u0131rmamak m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil&#8230; Tek fark onun babas\u0131n\u0131n burada kalmas\u0131, benim babam\u0131nsa gitmesi. O y\u00fczden, benim i\u00e7in bu, b\u00fcy\u00fcklerimizin k\u0131sa yoldan bulu\u015fmas\u0131d\u0131r\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ermenistan-T\u00fcrkiye ili\u015fkilerinin normalle\u015fmesi hangi yollarla m\u00fcmk\u00fcn?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ge\u00e7mi\u015fi ve bug\u00fcn\u00fc hesaba katarak adaletin yerine getirilmesi gerekiyor. Ge\u00e7mi\u015f derken 1915\u2019i ve b\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 izleri kastediyorum. Bug\u00fcn derken de Ermenilerin bug\u00fcnk\u00fc durumunu&#8230; 2015 yakla\u015f\u0131yor ve siyasi alanda herhangi bir \u015fey yapmak \u00e7ok zor olacak. Fakat di\u011fer alanlarda yava\u015f da olsa geli\u015fmeler olacak. Bu denli b\u00fcy\u00fck bir mesele hemen \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclemez. Ancak g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc ad\u0131mlar T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan at\u0131lmal\u0131. Bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131\u015f\u0131 de\u011fi\u015fikli\u011fi gerekiyor. Diplomatik m\u00fczakerelerle k\u00e2rl\u0131 bir sonuca nas\u0131l var\u0131r\u0131z \u015feklinde d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmek yerine, daha \u00e7ok faydal\u0131 sonu\u00e7lar aramalar\u0131 gerekiyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 T\u00fcrkiye \u015fu anda bu t\u00fcr ad\u0131mlar atmaktan uzak g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Buna varana kadar neler yap\u0131labilir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Mucizevi \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcmler beklemiyorum. \u0130yimser olmasayd\u0131m buraya gelmez, konu hakk\u0131nda d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcp yazmazd\u0131m.\u00a0 Ermeni meselesi bug\u00fcn ya da yar\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclecek bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Sab\u0131rs\u0131z olup s\u00fcreci h\u0131zland\u0131rmaya kalkarsak hi\u00e7 bir yere varamay\u0131z.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Diaspora diyalo\u011fa daha m\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Diaspora i\u00e7inde farkl\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnen bir\u00e7ok ki\u015fi ve kurum var. Ancak bir g\u00fcven sorunu var. B\u00f6yle bir ortamda ger\u00e7ek bir diyalog beklenemez. Fakat son on y\u0131lda pek \u00e7ok Diaspora Ermenisi T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye geldi. Bu olumlu bir geli\u015fme. Mesela Arsinee Khanjian\u2019\u0131n gelmesi\u2026 Bu t\u00fcr f\u0131rsatlar tabular\u0131 y\u0131kmak i\u00e7in \u00e7ok yararl\u0131.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Diaspora Ermeni kimli\u011fi nas\u0131l devam edecek?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Y\u0131llar boyunca Diaspora\u2019da esas sorun Ermeni Soyk\u0131r\u0131m\u0131 oldu. Ancak bug\u00fcn Ermenistan\u2019\u0131n sorunlar\u0131yla da ilgileniliyor. Ermenistan sadece yard\u0131mlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 yollad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ya da turist olarak y\u0131lda bir kere ziyaret etti\u011fimiz bir \u00fclke olmamal\u0131. Ermenistan ciddi reformlar g\u00f6rmek istedi\u011fimiz bir \u00fclke olmal\u0131. E\u011fer kendi sorunlar\u0131m\u0131za sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 yakla\u015f\u0131rsak T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye de \u00f6yle yakla\u015f\u0131r\u0131z. \u00c7evremize \u00f6rnek olmadan T\u00fcrkiye\u2019den \u00f6rnek olabilecek ad\u0131mlar talep edemeyiz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>SUR\u0130YE\u2019Y\u0130 TERK EDEN ERMEN\u0130LERE NASIL YARDIM EDEB\u0130LECE\u011e\u0130M\u0130Z\u0130 D\u00dc\u015e\u00dcNMEM\u0130Z LAZIM<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Suriye\u2019de olan bitenleri nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendiriyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Uzman de\u011filim ama sava\u015f\u0131n daha uzun s\u00fcrece\u011fini \u00e7ok net g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Bu art\u0131k Arap Bahar\u0131\u2019na benzemiyor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Suriye Ermenileri olan bitene haz\u0131rl\u0131ks\u0131z yakaland\u0131 gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Sava\u015f Halep\u2019e gelene kadar sanki hi\u00e7bir \u015feyin fark\u0131nda de\u011fillerdi.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Do\u011fru. Biz cemaatin farkl\u0131 hareket etmesini bekliyoruz ama bir \u015feyin bilincinde olmam\u0131z laz\u0131m. Suriye Ermenileri y\u0131llar boyunca hep ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde hareket etti ve b\u00f6yle korkun\u00e7 \u015fartlarda bunun \u00e2n\u0131nda de\u011fi\u015fmesini istiyoruz. Bu ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i de\u011fil\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Cemaatin bu halinde y\u00f6neticilerin pay\u0131 var m\u0131?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Herkesin pay\u0131 var. Tabii yanl\u0131\u015flar\u0131 ve do\u011frular\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fabiliriz ama \u015fimdi bunun s\u0131ras\u0131 de\u011fil. Cemaat hareket \u015feklini nas\u0131l ve hangi \u015fartlarda de\u011fi\u015ftirebilir diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmemiz laz\u0131m&#8230; Az\u0131nl\u0131klar hep temkinli davranmaya gayret g\u00f6sterip h\u00fck\u00fcmete sad\u0131k kalmay\u0131 tercih ettiler. B\u00f6yle temkinli bir davran\u0131\u015f bi\u00e7imi kendini koruma i\u00e7g\u00fcd\u00fcs\u00fcnden kaynaklan\u0131yor. Bug\u00fcn filler sava\u015f\u0131yor ve \u00e7imler eziliyor. Onlar\u0131n yanl\u0131\u015flar\u0131 ve do\u011frular\u0131n\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fmak yerine nas\u0131l yard\u0131m ederiz diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmeliyiz.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u2022\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Ermenistan ve Diaspora Suriye Ermeniler i\u00e7in ne yapabilir?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Bug\u00fcn \u00e7ok say\u0131da insan Suriye\u2019yi terk ediyor. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla art\u0131k cemaatin orada kalmas\u0131 i\u00e7in ne yapabiliriz sorusunu de\u011fil, \u00fclkeyi terk edenlere nas\u0131l yard\u0131m edebilece\u011fimizi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmemiz laz\u0131m\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"mailto:lilitgasparyan@agos.com.tr\"><strong><em>lilitgasparyan@agos.com.tr<\/em><\/strong><\/a><strong><em><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong><em>http:\/\/agos.com.tr\/haber.php?seo=ayni-anneannelerin-torunlariyiz&amp;haberid=3043<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lilit Gasparyan ABD\u2019de yay\u0131mlanan Armenian Weekly\u2019nin yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni Khachig Mouradian, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de Ermeni meselesi konusunda ya\u015fanan geli\u015fmeleri de\u011ferlendirdi. Mouradian, \u201cErmeni meselesi bug\u00fcn ya da yar\u0131n \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclecek bir \u015fey de\u011fil. Sab\u0131rs\u0131z olup s\u00fcreci h\u0131zland\u0131rmaya kalkarsak hi\u00e7bir yere varamay\u0131z\u201d dedi. ABD\u2019de yay\u0131mlanan Armenian Weekly\u2019nin yay\u0131n y\u00f6netmeni Khachig Mouradian, diasporada gen\u00e7 ku\u015fa\u011f\u0131n en etkin entellekt\u00fcellerinden biri. 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